spyder880:


Tree? I think it's the one who touched the legs that said the elephant is like a tree Sir, the one who touched its tusks thought the elephant is like a spear.

Good old Shakespeare.

I apologize. The danger of a second hand story is that it is always modified. One of the reasons I love your projects, they are always authentic.

RockOfAgesAlumi:

I really appreciate boss
Thanks

Thanks for the prompt delivery.

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TEQ365VENTURES:
So I posted the plan of my project few weeks ago for correction which professionals in the house helped me do some corrections.

The foundation is up to DPC Now and we would start the backfilling by next week. It’s a dry land do I need to consider doing any plinth beam as this is not in the structural drawing.

I brought this here when the bricklayer mentioned to me I do the beam but when I asked the engineer he said we do not need it as it’s not accommodated in the structural. Should i be worried about anything?

Why are you at odds not trusting your engineer over your bricklayer? Is it because your engineer is not an engineer?

Your structural drawings didn't call for one. From the photo, I think you need to backfill sensibly and do a German floor and you should be fine.

I'm not a structural engineer. Not even close.

n3xt:
Few days ago, someone asked why is it common for flat roofs to leak and there was really no answer to this question.

The truth is, it’s not the flat roof that leaks but your roof design and the quality of your installation.

Checking out one of our flat roof install at Badore Lagos.

It’s 4 years after installation. No felting. No leakage issue

What guage is the roofing sheet, 0.45 or 0.55?
Does guage has effect on weather a roof will leak or otherwise?

n3xt:
When the design is wrong, no matter who install the roof, it’ll definitely leak.

So, pay close attention to your design and its functionality more than you do to budget and aesthetics.

So, it does matter if the guage is 0.45 or 0.55?
Am working on a 3bedroom bungalow.

diordaves:


Why are you at odds not trusting your engineer over your bricklayer? Is it because your engineer is not an engineer?

Your structural drawings didn't call for one. From the photo, I think you need to backfill sensibly and do a German floor and you should be fine.

I'm not a structural engineer. Not even close.

Your reply is so much appreciated. Of course I trust the engineer just making sure I’m not undervaluing the bricklayer’s thought. Thanks once again!

somehow:


Thanks for the prompt delivery.

You are welcome sir
Thanks

shedy03:

What guage is the roofing sheet, 0.45 or 0.55?

This is 0.55

Does guage has effect on whether a roof will leak or otherwise?

I can confidently tell you a good installation will give you 100% peace of mind. I used 0.35 gauge on two of my personal build over 9 years ago. We’ve not had to do any maintenance on the roof since it was installed.

Though, we may be quick to say 0.35 gauge a decade ago is the same as 0.50 gauge now. The truth remains there are folks who did their install about the same as mine that have had to replace, repair and reinstall their roofs.

I know someone who replaced his roof almost 3 times in 4 years.

It’s actually an installation issue not really the gauge.


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Though a lower gauge will most likely have nail point leak issue faster than higher gauge but that doesn’t make it more vulnerable.

shedy03:

So, it does matter if the guage is 0.45 or 0.55?
Am working on a 3bedroom bungalow.

Once again, a good roof design matters more than the cost of materials used.
If you like use 1mm gauge, if your design is bad, the roof will leak!


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Just last week, we worked on an industrial gauge roof in Ibadan. It was badly installed and badly repaired using the regular flashband

We had to pull and did reconstruction of the woodwork to correct the problem.

The same applies to concrete roof. My concrete roof hasn’t pose a single problem over 10 years of its installation. And we never had to apply any treatment on it. No felt. No waterproofing solution.

Just a gentle slope to direct the water off the slab.

Simple as ABC!


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A good design transcend time.

Good morning

Happy Sunday people,

Who sells ECO bricks here? I need a light grey-ish colour.

Pls drop samples of what you have with prices, if possible.

thanks

n3xt:


Once again, a good roof design matters more than the cost of materials used.
If you like use 1mm gauge, if your design is bad, the roof will leak!


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Just last week, we worked on an industrial gauge roof in Ibadan. It was badly installed and badly repaired using the regular flashband

We had to pull and did reconstruction of the woodwork to correct the problem.

Thank you

n3xt:


This is 0.55



I can confidently tell you a good installation will give you 100% peace of mind. I used 0.35 gauge on two of my personal build over 9 years ago. We’ve not had to do any maintenance on the roof since it was installed.

Though, we may be quick to say 0.35 gauge a decade ago is the same as 0.50 gauge now. The truth remains there are folks who did their install about the same as mine that have had to replace, repair and reinstall their roofs.

I know someone who replaced his roof almost 3 times in 4 years.

It’s actually an installation issue not really the gauge.


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Though a lower gauge will most likely have nail point leak issue faster than higher gauge but that doesn’t make it more vulnerable.

This is helpful, thank you.

Good morning and happy Sunday

n3xt:


This is 0.55



I can confidently tell you a good installation will give you 100% peace of mind. I used 0.35 gauge on two of my personal build over 9 years ago. We’ve not had to do any maintenance on the roof since it was installed.

Though, we may be quick to say 0.35 gauge a decade ago is the same as 0.50 gauge now. The truth remains there are folks who did their install about the same as mine that have had to replace, repair and reinstall their roofs.

I know someone who replaced his roof almost 3 times in 4 years.

It’s actually an installation issue not really the gauge.


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Though a lower gauge will most likely have nail point leak issue faster than higher gauge but that doesn’t make it more vulnerable.

Can you recommend someone that can do a flat roof for me.. Someone that will do a good job.

dapotemi:


Can you recommend someone that can do a flat roof for me.. Someone that will do a good job.

Have you done your woodwork? I can give 100% money back guarantee on his installs.

Ask @Thomaths for the quality of his work.

When it’s clean, neat and solid, I give it to him. No matter the complexity of the design, he’ll surely deliver.

We’ve been together since 2009.


Please note, he’s a man extremely busy type. If you’re in a hurry, we have the fast and furious guys too
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Pic: Roof with double attic window done in 2013 or 14 for a nairalander. If it’s leaking I know I’ll have been called

n3xt:


Have you done your woodwork? I can give 100% money back guarantee on his installs.

Ask @Thomaths for the quality of his work.

When it’s clean, neat and solid, I give it to him. No matter the complexity of the design, he’ll surely deliver.

We’ve been together since 2009.


Please note, he’s a man extremely busy type. If you’re in a hurry, we have the fast and furious guys too
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Pic: Roof with double attic window done in 2013 or 14 for a nairalander. If it’s leaking I know I’ll have been called

I have not done woodwork.... Done with lintel and leveling.. Am not in a hurry... Location is mowe

dapotemi:


I have not done woodwork.... Done with lintel and leveling.. Am not in a hurry... Location is mowe

Perfect! Even if he’s not going to handle your woodwork, he’d have a look at your design and work with your carpenters to do exactly what’ll give a perfect install.

I’ve shared his contact here many times.

+2348062444363 Nnamdi McBasil

Let him know you’re from Bosun. He’d give your project a preferential treatment.

Currently in the East now.
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Once again if you’re in a rush, don’t bother to contact him because he’s in high demand.
But if he makes his way to your site, your job will be completed within 3 days max to your utmost satisfaction.

Who's our plug for great outdoor flooring? Thanks.

Is it right to ask your client to send you transport fare if the job is outside your state? A client called me to come and check a job in Edo state. I wanted to know the situation of the job by asking her if its just to measure or start immediately.
she said she will start as soon as we conclude, so I sent her some designs and the price which she accepted.
she asked when am coming and I told her 2days time which she said if I can't come the next day I should forget the job.
My wife just put to bed after all the spending I have no money left which am praying to go to bring work, I was happy when she said that. The last question I asked got her annoyed, when I asked her if I should come with my tools and my boys, she said is there anyway I will work without bringing them that if she is not ready she won't call me
I called my boys to get ready for the next day, but due to not having much cash I ran around to get 5k from someone that when I get there I will send them money to come, I got there in the evening.
i kept calling her severally and her number wasn't going even before I left, she pick the call around 5pm when I told her am there already, that am on my way to the site, she changed everything that I didn't call her before coming so I'm a scam.
I couldn't believe it, I summon courage that I should get to the site first at least I will sleep at the site till the next day. I only have 100naira left when the bike man dropped me funny enough is that nothing like site around the location I started calling her she blocked my line from call and WhatsApp. I went through hell that day but thank God I survived it.

This is our conversation before I make the move

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A repeat of what I’ve said on here many times over the years. Some much to the chagrin of my “friends”.

1) Don’t rely on customers money to get a job done. We’ll never agree on this I know.

2) You don’t have to accept all jobs that comes across your desk. Interview clients and use your best judgment if it’s a good fit. Example: someone called me from Abia or Asaba and wants to do pay on delivery on a vehicle I’m selling. It’s against my company policy so I respectfully declined. It’s simple sturvz.

3) Don’t take on jobs that you can’t satisfactorily complete. Either because of skill, experience or bandwidth. It’s okay to admit strength.

To close. On this very thread, artisans have been lured out of state and robbed by robbers pretending to be prospective home builders.

Hope yah all having a wonderful weekend.

Great builders in the house. Pls what is the labour cost for a 3blocks of miniflat and 4shops. It includes
1. Pegging
2. Digging
3. Blinding
4block setting up to 4 coaches

Your response will be much appreciated.

My bricklayer is charging 240k.

cash1115:
Is it right to ask your client to send you transport fare'.

Yes please
It is called mobilization fee.

mobilization fee especially on a construction project is the payment you require from the customer at the time you begin| about to begin the project, this fee will cater for preparatory work and operations, including, but not limited to, those necessary for the movement of personnel, equipment, supplies and incidentals to the project site, buildings of other facilities necessary for work on the project, and for all other work and operations which must be performed or cost incurred prior to beginning work on the various items on the project site.

Without this, especially on large scale project, you might be starting the project on a negative cash flow instead of positive.

A negative cash flow becomes a drain sort of that will increase the chance that you will need to borrow money. Also you do also be using funds necessary for the growth of your company for the project.


Sorry for that experience

Charisdesigns:


Yes please, and it is called mobilization fee.

mobilization fee especially on a construction project is the payment you require from the customer at the time you begin| about to begin the project, this fee will cater for preparatory work and operations, including, but not limited to, those necessary for the movement of personnel, equipment, supplies and incidentals to the project site, buildings of other facilities necessary for work on the project, and for all other work and operations which must be performed or cost incurred prior to beginning work on the various items on the project site.

Without this, especially on large scale project, you might be start the project on a negative cash flow instead of positive.

A negative cash flow becomes a drain sort of that will increase the chance that you will need to borrow money. Also you do also be using funds necessary for the growth of your company for the project.


Sorry for that experience

This is very good advice. Any client who argues with mobilizing a contractor/installer na bad market. Move on.

cash1115:
Is it right to ask your client to send you transport fair if the job is outside your state? I client called me to come and check a job in Edo state I wanted to know the situation of the job by asking her if its just to measure or state immediately, she said she will start as soon as we conlude, so I send her some designs and the price which she accepted, she asked when am coming and I told her 2days time which she said if I can't come the next day I should forget the job, and my wife just put to bed after all the spending I have no money left which am praying to go to bring work, I was happy when she said that. The last question I asked got her annoyed, when I asked her if I should come with my tools and my boys, she said is there anyway I will work without bringing them that if she is not ready she won't call me, I called my boys to get ready for the next day, but due to not having much cash I ran around to get 5k from someone that when I get there I will send them money to come, I got there in the evening, i calling her severally and her number wasn't going even before I left, she pick the call around 5pm when I told her am there already, that am on my way to the site, she changed everything that I didn't call her before coming so am a scam, I can't believe that, I summon courage that I should get to the site first at least I will sleep at the site till the next day I only have 100naira left when the bike man dropped me funny enough is that nothing like site around the location I started calling her she blocked my line from call and WhatsApp. I went through hell that day but thank God I survived it.

Tragedy! You suppose to request for drawings before you embark on such journey. Inspection to site these days is very risky. Contractors have to be very careful

cash1115:
Is it right to ask your client to send you transport fair if the job is outside your state? I client called me to come and check a job in Edo state I wanted to know the situation of the job by asking her if its just to measure or state immediately, she said she will start as soon as we conlude, so I send her some designs and the price which she accepted, she asked when am coming and I told her 2days time which she said if I can't come the next day I should forget the job, and my wife just put to bed after all the spending I have no money left which am praying to go to bring work, I was happy when she said that. The last question I asked got her annoyed, when I asked her if I should come with my tools and my boys, she said is there anyway I will work without bringing them that if she is not ready she won't call me, I called my boys to get ready for the next day, but due to not having much cash I ran around to get 5k from someone that when I get there I will send them money to come, I got there in the evening, i calling her severally and her number wasn't going even before I left, she pick the call around 5pm when I told her am there already, that am on my way to the site, she changed everything that I didn't call her before coming so am a scam, I can't believe that, I summon courage that I should get to the site first at least I will sleep at the site till the next day I only have 100naira left when the bike man dropped me funny enough is that nothing like site around the location I started calling her she blocked my line from call and WhatsApp. I went through hell that day but thank God I survived it.

There are clients that are bad market. This you should know. So to filter out bad market, next time these are processes you should carry out before moving to site:

#1. If the client is from Nairaland, look up for how long they've been on Nairaland. If they've been on Nairaland for a good length of time, take some comfort in that. Good information about their personality will be here on Nairaland by their posts and the forums they frequently visit. Be wary of those who register today, today to contact you for work. Just be wary. It doesn't mean this is not possible. Just be wary because you don't know jack about them. ALWAYS research your client upfront before accepting any job. Ask them for their name. I will come to 'name' again in point three.

#2. Be attentive to the way they address you or talk to you in messages. Be wary if they are unduly and unnecessarily harsh in their communication to you. As if they are doing you a favour. It is not a favour. It is a working relationship. Yes, you are soliciting for work, but you have a right to be addressed with some respect and kindness. All that ORDER to come to site or forget the job is not necessary. It is a tell-tale sign of a tortuous job and a potentially difficult client going forward. And there are difficult clients out there. I speak as a client.

#3. ALWAYS ask for a mobilization fee BEFORE moving to site. This is standard and good practice. Any client that argues with this na bad market. Move on. I have said previously in researching the client you should ask for their name. If you ask for a mobilization fee and they agreed, make sure payment is by bank transfer and that the payment account details match with the name the client told you. If the bank details don't match for some reason (maybe the client is abroad and they don't have a Nigerian bank account), ask more questions about who made the payment and ask to communicate with whoever made the payment. Your client should KNOW you in true colour and same as you.

Don't be desperate to please to land a job. On the flip side, if a client asked you to come to a site that is so far away for investigation or consultation with a potential view of awarding you the job, ask for a reasonable non-refundable fee in lieu of the cost of visiting the site and tell the client that this fee is non-refundable if you do not get the job eventually but if you got the job, this fee is included in the final fee.

cash1115:
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not to pile on the blame but the client is supposed to fund your transport to the site. It can be deducted later on. It's one thing to risk meeting a total stranger. Using your own money to meet him knowing fully well you might not return is another thing altogether.

If the client thinks you're a fraud for mobilization, you can see the client as someone with trust issues and shouldn't be trusted

EgunMogaji2:
A repeat of what I’ve said on here many times over the years. Some much to the chagrin of my “friends”.

1) Don’t rely on customers money to get a job done. We’ll never agree on this I know.

2) You don’t have to accept all jobs that comes across your desk. Interview clients and use your best judgment if it’s a good fit. Example: someone called me from Abia or Asaba and wants to do pay on delivery on a vehicle I’m selling. It’s against my company policy so I respectfully declined. It’s simple sturvz.

3) Don’t take on kids that you can’t satisfactorily complete. Either because of skill, experience or bandwidth. It’s okay to admit strength.

To close. On this very thread, artisans have been lured out of state and robbed by robbers pretending to be prospective home builders.

Hope yah all having a wonderful weekend.

i nearly got kidnapped about 3 years ago around festac here in Lagos....


my take on this is.. if the project is within my vicinity and I know that I am not in danger i wont mind driving down there for me to check and all... but if you are far off we can deal with drawings and agree on something. have done this many time...

last 3 weeks a client bought two way flight ticket for me to come to abuja and see a job... which didnt work out by the way cause the house has already been plastered....

some client can be wicked in their own way.

from the conversation it show that this particular client is a troublesome person he could have said no immediately...