gregyboy:



This are just recent praise names made up by yoruba bloggers to get attention can you bring a video where praises were showered on the obas and those names you listed up there were used to praise him....

Nigga please stop buying to deceitful attentions


Read this screenshot

Lol, these praise names were recently made up by Yoruba bloggers? The same praise names that you can find on all the Edo/Bini revisionist sites? I could say you should go for more education, but then you're in dire want of a mental check up instead

richiepolymer:


Extend your research.

Lol, typical. Ill-educated clowns just making up ahistorical, spurious claims out of their own delusional asses. Isidahomey Ko, Isakaba ni.

Fejoku:

The red cap is the same as ours but that cloth is a general cloth among majority of central southern Nigeria. Those people are not Igbo.
Just go to google earth with that name and see where they are located. We don't share any border with them and their location in northern Edo is replete with many different languages. I've been listening to their highlife music and I must say that they make good music. Very similar to ours. If they are in anyway related to us I would have indicated it here.

The cloth may be general. May. But the cap, beads and the yam festival...hmm.

Fejoku:
[/b]
The bolded is false. Benin military might was never strong enough 70km radius from Benin city. Where was Benin when jihadist took over Auchi? Benin was already down by the time the British decided to colonize Nigeria.

True!

gregyboy:
[s]This are just recent praise names made up by yoruba bloggers to get attention can you bring a video where praises were showered on the obas and those names you listed up there were used to praise him....Nigga please stop buying to deceitful attentions[/s]

These aren’t recent from bloggers.

Your kings have Yoruba praise names some of which were collected by R. E. Dennet 115 years ago from Benin.

See 1st screenshot featuring Adimula, Õṣa’keji, et. al. Tell us the meanings of these if they are Bini words.

Read this screenshot

Your screenshot is an opinion of a certain Ryder from the year 1965.

Guess what has happened between 1965 and 2021 in the field of historical scholarship of African history.

The field of historical scholarship of African history has unanimously debunked that opinion from Ryder.

See for example:

A. Akinjogbin (1967), F. Willett (1973), R. C. C. Law (1973), R. Horton (1979), A. Obayemi (1980), R. Smith (1988), B. Adediran (1991), D. Bondarenko (2003), S. A. Akintoye (2010), A. Ogundiran (2020), et al.

A summary of this unanimous conclusion of scholars is aptly put in a 2016 publication as attached below in the 2nd screenshot below:

Cheers!
Cc: Newton85

gregyboy:
[s]Stop taking weed and reading from Wikipedia

Oromiyan and Oduduwa journey ti benin was a political stint pulled by benins to the yorubas after amalgamation to get political favour from the yorubas

In doing so the yoruba welcomed benins as one of their sons and the myth of oduduwa and Oromiyan coming to benin was born... To make it look real

But we know the truth bro...[/s]

Your trashy comment should be believed, because •••


Also:
Your screenshot is an opinion of a certain Ryder from the year 1965.

Guess what has happened between 1965 and 2021 in the field of historical scholarship of African history.

The field of historical scholarship of African history has unanimously debunked that opinion from Ryder.

See for example:

A. Akinjogbin (1967), F. Willett (1973), R. C. C. Law (1973), R. Horton (1979), A. Obayemi (1980), R. Smith (1988), B. Adediran (1991), D. Bondarenko (2003), S. A. Akintoye (2010), A. Ogundiran (2020), et al.

A summary of this unanimous conclusion of scholars is aptly put in a 2016 publication as attached below in the 2nd screenshot below:

Cheers!
Cc: Olutishe490

gregyboy:

[s]Nah ooni of ife pay homage to the oba of benin

The ooni of ife stool was created by awolowo it is not ancient
The oba of benin never attends the ooni of ife coronation but the ooni of ife must always attend oba of benin coronation ceremony or he will remain illegitimate and unflavored by the gods[/s]

gregyboy:
[s]A Pained developer, i thought developers were happy people

The oba of benin goes to visit different monarchs ooni of ife stook cant be compared to the oba of benin stool, ooni of ife stool was awolowo creation[/s]

TRASH!

1st attachment discusses the visit of an Ooni to Lagos in the year 1903 — the first Ooni to step out of Ife.

Whereas, Awolowo was born in the year 1909.

Did the oba of Benin ban the use of brain among his subjects?

See also second attachment.

Cc: BSsniffer, Nisiw365

TAO11:
1st attachment discusses the visit of an Ooni to Lagos in the year 1903 — the first Ooni to step out of Ife.

Whereas, Awolowo was born in the year 1909.

Did the oba of Benin ban the use of brain among his subjects?

Cc: BSsniffer

This one off me

How's u?

Ofunaofu:



You just have to know that EDO STATE is just a mere political state creation

That they are found today in present day Edo State should not erase the fact that they might have a cultural and historical connection to the Igbos

They claim to have migrated from enugu state.

TAO11:


TRASH!

1st attachment discusses the visit of an Ooni to Lagos in the year 1903 — the first Ooni to step out of Ife.

Whereas, Awolowo was born in the year 1909.

Did the oba of Benin ban the use of brain among his subjects?

See also second attachment.

Cc: BSsniffer

You're a blessing to Yoruba's on nairaland...apart from the daily flogging you give that bini goat, I actually learn alot from your posts. God bless you.

TAO11:


TRASH!

1st attachment discusses the visit of an Ooni to Lagos in the year 1903 — the first Ooni to step out of Ife.

Whereas, Awolowo was born in the year 1909.

Did the oba of Benin ban the use of brain among his subjects?

See also second attachment.

Cc: BSsniffer, Nisiw365

Benin miacreants don't make use of their brain

gregyboy:
[s]During the yoruba civil war benin invaded ife and sacked the king and install a prince until the britsh invaded ife after some years and took ife town from benin and stopped the payment of tribute from ife to benin,[/s]

Crap from Omonoba’s (king’s child) butthole.

Also:
Your screenshot is an opinion of a certain Ryder from the year 1965.

Guess what has happened between 1965 and 2021 in the field of historical scholarship of African history.

The field of historical scholarship of African history has unanimously debunked that opinion from Ryder.

See for example:

A. Akinjogbin (1967), F. Willett (1973), R. C. C. Law (1973), R. Horton (1979), A. Obayemi (1980), R. Smith (1988), B. Adediran (1991), D. Bondarenko (2003), S. A. Akintoye (2010), A. Ogundiran (2020), et al.

A summary of this unanimous conclusion of scholars is aptly put in a 2016 publication as attached below in the 2nd screenshot below:

Cheers!
Cc: Nisiw365

Dozis:
;


You guys are the reason people insult us, when people say they are not Igbo, let them be who they say they are, the great Igbo nation is way bigger than these mushroom groups that we should be insulted because of them.

They actually claim to have migrated from enugu state a friend of mine told me their history.

TAO11:
Crap from Omonoba’s (king’s child) butthole.

Also:
Your screenshot is an opinion of a certain Ryder from the year 1965.

Guess what has happened between 1965 and 2021 in the field of historical scholarship of African history.

The field of historical scholarship of African history has unanimously debunked that opinion from Ryder.

See for example:

A. Akinjogbin (1967), F. Willett (1973), R. C. C. Law (1973), R. Horton (1979), A. Obayemi (1980), R. Smith (1988), B. Adediran (1991), D. Bondarenko (2003), S. A. Akintoye (2010), A. Ogundiran (2020), et al.

A summary of this unanimous conclusion of scholars is aptly put in a 2016 publication as attached below in the 2nd screenshot below:

Cheers!
Cc: Nisiw365

Gregyboy bp increases anytime he sees Ta011 username or mention because his head will be slammed with facts

Menance:
A little history won't hurt you.
Agbada is a northern thing which the yorubas adopted, rename and created a variant. •••
So all in all all of you adopted it.

This information is indeed a Mena[n]ce to society.

First, there is zero evidence for the popular idea that Yorubas aDoPtEd/bOrRoWed “agbada” (or any name you insert) from nOrThErNeRs.

Oh, let me add that by evidence I refer to historical sources, not modern conjectures, nor Wikipedia, nor internet blogs.

As a clarifying appendix, could you please tell me where southern “Nigeria” people’s of old all borrowed wrapper things from — since it’s found in other world cultures?

Also, you may like to tell me from whom did southern “Nigeria” people of the distant ancient times borrow leaves, skin (as clothing) from since it was present as clothing in other parts of the ancient world?

I’d wait.
Cc: BSsniffer

TAO11:
These aren’t recent from bloggers.

Your kings have Yoruba praise names some of which were collected by R. E. Dennet 115 years ago from Benin.

See 1st screenshot featuring Adimula, Õṣa’keji, et. al. Tell us the meanings of these if they are Bini words.


Your screenshot is an opinion of a certain Ryder from the year 1965.

Guess what has happened between 1965 and 2021 in the field of historical scholarship of African history.

The field of historical scholarship of African history has unanimously debunked that opinion from Ryder.

See for example:

A. Akinjogbin (1967), F. Willett (1973), R. C. C. Law (1973), R. Horton (1979), A. Obayemi (1980), R. Smith (1988), B. Adediran (1991), D. Bondarenko (2003), S. A. Akintoye (2010), A. Ogundiran (2020), et al.

A summary of this unanimous conclusion of scholars is aptly put in a 2016 publication as attached below in the 2nd screenshot below:

Cheers!
Cc: Newton85

.

TAO11:
These aren’t recent from bloggers.

Your kings have Yoruba praise names some of which were collected by R. E. Dennet 115 years ago from Benin.

See 1st screenshot featuring Adimula, Õṣa’keji, et. al. Tell us the meanings of these if they are Bini words.


Your screenshot is an opinion of a certain Ryder from the year 1965.

Guess what has happened between 1965 and 2021 in the field of historical scholarship of African history.

The field of historical scholarship of African history has unanimously debunked that opinion from Ryder.

See for example:

A. Akinjogbin (1967), F. Willett (1973), R. C. C. Law (1973), R. Horton (1979), A. Obayemi (1980), R. Smith (1988), B. Adediran (1991), D. Bondarenko (2003), S. A. Akintoye (2010), A. Ogundiran (2020), et al.

A summary of this unanimous conclusion of scholars is aptly put in a 2016 publication as attached below in the 2nd screenshot below:

Cheers!
Cc: Newton85

I swear, this gregyboy dude is obviously ill-educated and mentally unstable. I can't believe the codswallop he's writing, lol. The slowpoke even claimed Oduduwa doesn't exist in Bini folklore. What an ass hat!

God bless ogbona elites, i celebrate ogbona weller. My service year was a blast for the love shown me...ex corper andrew

TAO11:
This information is indeed a Mena[n]ce to society.

First, there is zero evidence for the popular idea that Yorubas aDoPtEd/bOrRoWed “agbada” (or any name you insert) from nOrThErNeRs.

Oh, let me add that by evidence I refer to historical sources, not modern conjectures, norWikipedia, not internet blogs.

As a clarifying appendix, could you please tell me where southern “Nigeria” people’s of old all borrowed wrapper things from — since it’s found in other world cultures?

Also, you may like to tell me from whom did southern “Nigeria” people of the distant ancient times borrow leaves, skin (as clothing) from since it was present as clothing in other parts of the ancient world?

I’d wait.
Cc: BSsniffer

Outside Wikipedia, which anyone clown can edit anyway, this genius actually can't name any reputable source that agbada was borrowed from some nonsensical babanriga.

Nisiw365:

Benin miacreants don't make use of their brain

Lol, it seems so

gregyboy:
[s]Say... The Northerners called you guys cunny people[/s]

Crap from your butthole. Push it back in.

Did you ever see the 4-walls of a school to have known the meaning of the word “pronunciation” which clearly written on your own screenshot which I have highlighted below?? I doubt.

Also:
“Yoruba” (the native pronunciation by the owners of the name); “Yaruba”/“Yarba”/“Yarriba” (Arab & Hausa pronunciation); or “Yourriba” (an early European’s pronunciation) — none of these pronunciation means anything in Hausa language or Fulfude, contrary to popular insinuations. Ask your Northern friend if you have one.

Instead, the name “Yoruba” (or any of its variant pronunciations by foreigners) is said, by R. F. Burton, to have a well-known etymology among the Yorubas

Richard F. Burton is a European explorer who visited Yorubaland in the 1800s and found that this word is well-known to have derived from the Yoruba phrase “Ori Obba” — the “Head King” ~ R.F. Burton (1863), p.229.

Cc: Nisiw365

nisai:
This one off me

How's u?

I’m good bro.

May I ask if you are able to do “reset password” for that email account?

Not only did I recommend the materials, I also added some guiding side notes which you will find very, very helpful.

That’s why (i.e. the vital side notes which is a little lengthy) is the reason why I am reluctant to retype the email/rack my head for the right words all over again.

Also, if there is a way I can find the earlier email I had sent (via Nairaland cos I can’t find it in my email’s sent item) that I will appreciate if you can point that to me so I can copy and resend.

Thanks for your understanding. Cheers.

TAO11:
Did you ever see the 4-walls of a school to have known the meaning of the word “pronunciation” which clearly written on your own screenshot which I have highlighted below?? I doubt.

Also:
“Yoruba” (the native pronunciation by the owners of the name); “Yaruba”/“Yarba”/“Yarriba” (Arab & Hausa pronunciation); or “Yourriba” (an early European’s pronunciation) — none of these pronunciation means anything in Hausa language or Fulfude, contrary to popular insinuations. Ask your Northwrm friend if you have one.

Instead, the name “Yoruba” (or any of its variant pronunciations by foreigners) is said, by R. F. Burton, to have a well-known etymology among the Yorubas

Richard F. Burton is a European explorer who visited Yorubaland in the 1800s and found that this word is well-known to have derived from the Yoruba phrase “Ori Obba” — the “Head King” ~ R.F. Burton (1863), p.229.

Cc: Nisiw365

I should also add contrary to social media insinuation among lay people, the name “Yoruba” is not recent (100+ years, or +200 years old) as is being popularly but falsely peddled.

It has been our endonym since prior to the 1600s — that is, since the 1500s (if not earlier).

The evidence for this fact lies in an essay which was written in the early-1600s by a Songhai writer by the name Ahmad Baba.

Baba was writing an essay in reply to an inquiry from a Moroccan. In the course of his writing, Baba listed some ethnic groups of W-Africa among which Islam is not known [or pronounced].

One of the ten ethnic groups which he listed was the Yoruba group. And his writing was not a wiring about christening previously nameless people.

He was referring to well-known pre-existent names. This is super clear from how his listing was worded:

“… the group called Mossi, or Gurma, or Busa, or Borgu, or Dagomba, or Kotokoli, or Yoruba, or Tombo, or Bobo, or K.rmu …”


This manuscript which was written by Ahmed Baba in 1615 is embedded below.

The name Yoruba is shown in red highlight (among the other ethnic groups) as can be seen in the original manuscript as well as in the translation embedded below respectively:

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934148_5117c6d550154217817d7c66b5fa0fe6_jpeg_jpeg2a73d5172c14cf7a7da91ff200688e3e

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934147_3336ed29985b499e82c4e140b455b9fa_jpeg_jpeg62ecafabb59c692d4ba471597fdf16bb

This translation was prepared by John Hunwick and Fatima Harrak for The Institute of African Studies Rabat, Morocco

I should add that we know that this manuscript was written by Ahmad Baba in the year 1615 because he himself penned this information name and highlighted (in the embedded verso) below:

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13082305_6e49d8d129844a578af9272699e1586a_jpeg_jpeg2d5891d724a6428e2c0f4e6898bd60cc

The highlight here literally shows the wording “(the year) one thousand and twenty four (of the Hijrah)”.

When converted from this Hijri “AH” calendar into our Gregorian “AD” calendar; the year 1024 AH falls into the year 1615 AD

The formula “D = 0.9692*H + 622” proves practically useful for this conversion.

This proves yet again that this is a name that we’ve been using since the pre-1600s — i.e. in the 1500s (if not earlier).

Cheers!

TAO11:
I’m good bro.

May I ask if you are able to do “reset password” for that email account?

Not only did I recommend the materials, I also added some guiding side notes which you will find very, very helpful.

That’s why (i.e. the vital side notes which is a little lengthy) is the reason why I am reluctant to retype the email/rack my head for the right words all over again.

Also, if there is a way I can find the earlier email I had sent (via Nairaland cos I can’t find it in my email’s sent item) that I will appreciate if you can point that to me so I can copy and resend.

Thanks for your understanding. Cheers.

I couldn't. I think the account has been hacked long ago but I didn't notice because it's not my main account. I may retry sha.

I understand, Omo iya.

I don't know if you will find it if u log into the email account outside Nairaland.

Naija9090:
See as they resemble Igbo people and even call it "Esi" like Igbos. Whoever divided Igbo people, it will never be well with these people.

Love your enemies and bless those who curse you and pray for those who despitefully use you. LUKE 6 :28
Remember that you shall be judged by every idle word you speak. Matthew 12 :36
You'll do well to receive Jesus into your life. Tomorrow may be too late. John 3 :16

TAO11:
I’m good bro.

May I ask if you are able to do “reset password” for that email account?

Not only did I recommend the materials, I also added some guiding side notes which you will find very, very helpful.

That’s why (i.e. the vital side notes which is a little lengthy) is the reason why I am reluctant to retype the email/rack my head for the right words all over again.

Also, if there is a way I can find the earlier email I had sent (via Nairaland cos I can’t find it in my email’s sent item) that I will appreciate if you can point that to me so I can copy and resend.

Thanks for your understanding. Cheers.

Sorry I just read that. I do not know other way.

Amajerry83:



They are not Igno. Stop forcing people on you. Na force to claim people?

almajeri

TAO11:
Crap from your butthole. Push it back in.

Did you ever see the 4-walls of a school to have known the meaning of the word “pronunciation” which clearly written on your own screenshot which I have highlighted below?? I doubt.

Also:
“Yoruba” (the native pronunciation by the owners of the name); “Yaruba”/“Yarba”/“Yarriba” (Arab & Hausa pronunciation); or “Yourriba” (an early European’s pronunciation) — none of these pronunciation means anything in Hausa language or Fulfude, contrary to popular insinuations. Ask your Northern friend if you have one.

Instead, the name “Yoruba” (or any of its variant pronunciations by foreigners) is said, by R. F. Burton, to have a well-known etymology among the Yorubas

Richard F. Burton is a European explorer who visited Yorubaland in the 1800s and found that this word is well-known to have derived from the Yoruba phrase “Ori Obba” — the “Head King” ~ R.F. Burton (1863), p.229.

Cc: Nisiw365

...


One of your brother said the world yoruba was from oyoroba meaning oyo is king...

Your own must be different

But wait oo so you want me to believe the document of a Whiteman in late 1800 than the words of ajayi crowther who is a fellow Yoruba man and who made his documentation earlier than the whitemman...

You must be crazy... For you to think Nigeria is for you

Nisiw365:

Won't change the fact that oba of Benin is a Yoruba man, Edo's migrated from ile Ife
So Edo's are yoruba

stick your tale of Edo migrated from Ile-Ife to your ass, in Benin everyone knows where they come from o not like your mythical tale of Ife Yorubas push

GeneralPula:


Indigenous you say?

Yorubas have been weaving & wearing clothings since 15th century, way before your fore-fathers in Igbo land..

Aso-oke, Agbada, and so on.. Your fore-fathers are still crushing naked back then..

All Fulani borrowed.
Would you mind if I post the original Fulani clothing you stole? From the Agbada down to Aso oke. Plus the Fulani female clothing your Alaafin wear?

gregyboy:
[s]One of your brother said the world yoruba was from oyoroba meaning oyo is king...

Your own must be different

But wait oo so you want me to believe the document of a Whiteman in late 1800 than the words of ajayi crowther who is a fellow Yoruba man and who made his documentation earlier than the whitemman...

You must be crazy... For you to think Nigeria is for you[/s]

Dullard, whether I (or my brother) think the word “Yoruba” comes from the phrase “Oyo is the king” — that’s our personal view in the 20th/21st century.

However, what our forefather say w.r.t. the etymology of the word “Yoruba” is that it comes from the phrase “Ori Obba” — the “Head King”. And this was recorded in writing in the mid 1800s.

Moreover, no where did Ajayi Crowther say the word “Yoruba” derive from “Yarba”/“Yarriba”. He simply said this is how the Hausa people pronounce it in their own attempt.

The key-word here is pronounce it. Enrol in a primary school if you actually need to know what the word “pronounce” means.

Some Yorubas till date pronounce “Ìgbò” as “Yi.bo” — that is their best attempt, not that they gave the Ìgbòs their name.

Lastly, the word “Yoruba” (or any of its non-native pronunciation) has no meaning whatsoever in any Northern language.

TAO11:
Crap from your butthole. Push it back in.

Did you ever see the 4-walls of a school to have known the meaning of the word “pronunciation” which clearly written on your own screenshot which I have highlighted below?? I doubt.

Also:
“Yoruba” (the native pronunciation by the owners of the name); “Yaruba”/“Yarba”/“Yarriba” (Arab & Hausa pronunciation); or “Yourriba” (an early European’s pronunciation) — none of these pronunciation means anything in Hausa language or Fulfude, contrary to popular insinuations. Ask your Northern friend if you have one.

Instead, the name “Yoruba” (or any of its variant pronunciations by foreigners) is said, by R. F. Burton, to have a well-known etymology among the Yorubas

Richard F. Burton is a European explorer who visited Yorubaland in the 1800s and found that this word is well-known to have derived from the Yoruba phrase “Ori Obba” — the “Head King” ~ R.F. Burton (1863), p.229.

TAO11:
I should also add contrary to social media insinuation among lay people, the name “Yoruba” is not recent (100+ years, or +200 years old) as is being popularly but falsely peddled.

It has been our endonym since prior to the 1600s — that is, since the 1500s (if not earlier).

The evidence for this fact lies in an essay which was written in the early-1600s by a Songhai writer by the name Ahmad Baba.

Baba was writing an essay in reply to an inquiry from a Moroccan. In the course of his writing, Baba listed some ethnic groups of W-Africa among which Islam is not known [or pronounced].

One of the ten ethnic groups which he listed was the Yoruba group. And his writing was not a wiring about christening previously nameless people.

He was referring to well-known pre-existent names. This is super clear from how his listing was worded:

“… the group called Mossi, or Gurma, or Busa, or Borgu, or Dagomba, or Kotokoli, or Yoruba, or Tombo, or Bobo, or K.rmu …”


This manuscript which was written by Ahmed Baba in 1615 is embedded below.

The name Yoruba is shown in red highlight (among the other ethnic groups) as can be seen in the original manuscript as well as in the translation embedded below respectively:

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934148_5117c6d550154217817d7c66b5fa0fe6_jpeg_jpeg2a73d5172c14cf7a7da91ff200688e3e

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934147_3336ed29985b499e82c4e140b455b9fa_jpeg_jpeg62ecafabb59c692d4ba471597fdf16bb

This translation was prepared by John Hunwick and Fatima Harrak for The Institute of African Studies Rabat, Morocco

I should add that we know that this manuscript was written by Ahmad Baba in the year 1615 because he himself penned this information name and highlighted (in the embedded verso) below:

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13082305_6e49d8d129844a578af9272699e1586a_jpeg_jpeg2d5891d724a6428e2c0f4e6898bd60cc

The highlight here literally shows the wording “(the year) one thousand and twenty four (of the Hijrah)”.

When converted from this Hijri “AH” calendar into our Gregorian “AD” calendar; the year 1024 AH falls into the year 1615 AD

The formula “D = 0.9692*H + 622” proves practically useful for this conversion.

This proves yet again that this is a name that we’ve been using since the pre-1600s — i.e. in the 1500s (if not earlier).

Cheers!

Gregyboy, if I came to this life a second time; I would still choose you as my slave.

Cheers!

Naija9090:
See as they resemble Igbo people and even call it "Esi" like Igbos. Whoever divided Igbo people, it will never be well with these people.

Na Biafrans all the way to isan to igodomigodo, they will come home very soon. Britain and Fulani caliphates do Igbos 30