swiz123:


Lol ... Help me tell your master that you that there is nothing like factoring cost... You can only factor debt..

Stop assuming things about people you know nothing about

If i understand "factor" to mean "amortize" you could be wrong, amortizing cost is actually a thing.
If you buy a player 50M and pay him 10M per year for 5 years, the amortized cost is 20M per year. Say you get a player on free transfer and agree to pay him 18M per year, his amortized cost is lower, so while he is actually receiving higher wages he is a cheaper option for the club.

Lampard: "f I had Lukaku up front, I’d still be in a job!”

“But no seriously, good luck to Chelsea and Romelu. I hope it all works out.”

To all manure fans planning on shalaying whenever Lukaku does his thing.....make una........

Kentorkey:
Lukaku the wasteful striker is back to haunt chelsea with one goal in thirty matches. Una go wail this season. Thank god for Man U.

You sound like the one wailing.

Kentorkey:
Lukaku the wasteful striker is back to haunt chelsea with one goal in thirty matches. Una go wail this season. Thank god for Man U.

Will you keep quiet!!!!!

Emmynator:


Let Havertz Chief PR officer catch you.

Lol

Ibime:


What rubbish is this?

The length of the players contract is the amortisation period.

Who sent you to quantify "useful" in this case?

Stop arguing over your head.

Aside your abysmal understanding of accounting, I'm failing to understand your gripe on the football side.

Someone has a cheap Kolarov and bought a cheap Young and used these two old cargoes to win the league and you are talking rubbish about the players not having sell on value.

Someone had a cheap Darmian, was given money to buy an expensive Hakimi, used them to win the league, then flipped Hakimi for good profit, and you are still moaning.

Guy, just keep quiet. You have no point.

My arguement on the football side is very simple. You signed for example a deadwood Darmian and amortized his cost over the length of his contract. Now, the player became redundant and useless before the end of his contract which was your estimated "useful life". ( Quantifying him as an assests). During downsizing in a clubs short run plan, contracts given to deadwoods becomes a liability..

Inter has to sell their highly liquid and valuable assests in order service the cost of maintaining these deadwoods that Conte signed. It's very simple.

fredoooooo:
I use to say it we may hate some players because they're not scoring or for other reasons but thier indirect contributions to team makes them soecial yo the team and the coach...

this is absolutely true, his dummy runs, dragging defenders wide, his speed caused opposition problems time and again

Kantebets:
Harvertz Lukaku Werner attack
Mount Ziyech and Pulisic on bench

the one reason you can't bench mount is that he drops deep and forms a three man midfield, oh another reason is that he was the most creative player and also makes us a threat through set pieces. Benching the one man that helps the team both in attack and defense is not wise.

Kentorkey:
Lukaku the wasteful striker is back to haunt chelsea with one goal in thirty matches. Una go wail this season. Thank god for Man U.

Scum na jealousy go kee you dia.
KINDLY DONATE YOUR TEARS

Emmynator:


If i understand "factor" to mean "amortize" you could be wrong, amortizing cost is actually a thing.
If you buy a player 50M and pay him 10M per year for 5 years, the amortized cost is 20M per year. Say you get a player on free transfer and agree to pay him 18M per year, his amortized cost is lower, so while he is actually receiving higher wages he is a cheaper option for the club.

I understand what you mean but look at it this way...

A player you signed for 50m is an investement which is likely to yield profit if sold off. Just like it cost Dortmund to buy Haaland and Inter got Young on a free. Dortmund could make serious profit from Haaland before he covers the length of his contract. What will Inter make from Young?

Look at it in another way... Inter signed Hakimi for a fee and Young for free. Who has been more productive? Compare their productivity with their amortized cost.. Never mind that Inter made profit on Hakimi. My point is, preferring stagnant players because of low amortization cost would lead to committing financial suicide...

And lastly, Factor doesn't mean amortization

Roland17:


This was me in March!

March na just yesterday.

This was me the moment Dortmund confirmed Haaland in 2019

swiz123:


My arguement on the football side is very simple. You signed for example a deadwood Darmian and amortized his cost over the length of his contract. Now, the player became redundant and useless before the end of his contract which was your estimated "useful life". ( Quantifying him as an assests). During downsizing in a clubs short run plan, contracts given to deadwoods becomes a liability..

Inter has to sell their highly liquid and valuable assests in order service the cost of maintaining these deadwoods that Conte signed. It's very simple.

You have no argument. Every club needs two players for a position. If the club cannot buy you two Hakimis, you manage with one Hakimi and one cheap player like Darmian.

Inter did not have money to buy a Regulion to take over from Young so they took Kolarov on free transfer. Kolarov was on a one year contract, the contract expired and Conte left. Inter with their own hand went and extended Kolarov for another year. That means they don't have money to buy a Junior Firpo and never did. If Inter tell Conte they only have $1m for that position, you don't expect Conte to go buy a young player from Enyimba for $0.5m just so Swiz123 can be satisfied that Conte bought player with sell on value. You expect Conte to use that money to buy a player that will keep up the title challenge if Young gets injured.

With the budget he was given, he bought in the bargain basement and delivered the league. His only two blockbuster signings were Lukaku and Hakimi. Man did a fantastic job.

If you add everything he bought and sell those players, he has left Inter with a positive net spend for his time there.

Kolarov contract expired with Conte, Vidal was signed from Barca for €1m on a two year contract of £40k per week which will expire at end of this season. Darmian was on loan. If you are looking at these cheap short term deals as the reason for Inter financial problems, you have another think coming. Even some youth players who are not in the first team cost Chelsea more.

They have even now added Dzeko now that Conte has left.

These are not the reasons for Inter financial problems. Their problems lie with collapse of commercial Revenue and the pandemic and the owners don't have deep pockets to bail them out. Conte has not been spending beyond the level of an Aston Villa or West Ham

Kantebets:
that guy made lots of assists last season and also made runs which opened up spaces for Harvertz and Ziyech last season
His speed is an asset to that team just that he needs to work on his finishing

And his dribbling and ball control. He can't even run fast very fast while controlling the ball towards the direction of the goal. Na lack of talent dey cos am

BlueAngel444:
this is absolutely true, his dummy runs, dragging defenders wide, his speed caused opposition problems time and again

was this suppose to be compliment or what?

MorataFC:

was this suppose to be compliment or what?

that move won us the UCL

MorataFC:
I don't think barca will sell that lad.

You thought right, From being a probable starter and a heir to dragging shirt with Hudson odoi, Werner, pulisic, ziyech and harvertz, I don't think so for now, Na Jorge Mendes (ororo's agent) dey do that stuff, someone that almost moved Fati to united last season

Is Sancho not worth it?

Man City buy grealish for £100m, when a far younger Sancho with more end brought was available for £75m.

Chelsea bid €100m for Chiesa, Dortmund rumoured to have enquired and one other big club as well, bid €100m.

And apparently United not buying Sancho last summer wasn't because they didn't have the money after all they bid €150m for Ansu Fati but felt anything more than €90m was a waste for Sancho

Then Southgate benches Sancho in the euros but plays Saka instead

swiz123:


I understand what you mean but look at it this way...

A player you signed for 50m is an investement which is likely to yield profit if sold off. Just like it cost Dortmund to buy Haaland and Inter got Young on a free. Dortmund could make serious profit from Haaland before he covers the length of his contract. What will Inter make from Young?

Look at it in another way... Inter signed Hakimi for a fee and Young for free. Who has been more productive? Compare their productivity with their amortized cost.. Never mind that Inter made profit on Hakimi. My point is, preferring stagnant players because of low amortization cost would lead to committing financial suicide...

And lastly, Factor doesn't mean amortization

I understand your point, but you don't buy an old player like young and expect profit from sales. while it is true that it's cheaper short term to go for lower amortized fee, especially if you can't afford to pay transfer fees at the time, over time it may be more costly.
However one thing you are not factoring in is that transfer are mostly a gamble, Hakimi could have flopped and you would have categorized it financial suicide signing a player with one good season under his belt.

Lastly, i think Conte's strategy was best for inter's situation at the time.

Kilishihunter:

You thought right, From being a probable starter and a heir to dragging shirt with Hudson odoi, Werner, pulisic, ziyech and harvertz, I don't think so for now, Na Jorge Mendes (ororo's agent) dey do that stuff, someone that almost moved Fati to united last season

didn't Barca accept but later pull out of the deal and now can't offer a suitable contract to their supposedly new heir


I wonder how much Chelsea would offer now, and by the way Tuchel would likely someone at LWB Fati will find himself among great company of exciting young attacking players in Europe

Ibime:



You have no argument. Every club needs two players for a position. If the club cannot buy you two Hakimis, you manage with one Hakimi and one cheap player like Darmian.

Inter did not have money to buy a Regulion to take over from Young so they took Kolarov on free transfer. Kolarov was on a one year contract, the contract expired and Conte left. Inter with their own hand went and extended Kolarov for another year. That means they don't have money to buy a Junior Firpo and never did. If Inter tell Conte they only have $1m for that position, you don't expect Conte to go buy a young player from Enyimba for $0.5m just so Swiz123 can be satisfied that Conte bought player with sell on value. You expect Conte to use that money to buy a player that will keep up the title challenge if Young gets injured.

With the budget he was given, he bought in the bargain basement and delivered the league. His only two blockbuster signings were Lukaku and Hakimi. Man did a fantastic job.

If you add everything he bought and sell those players, he has left Inter with a positive net spend for his time there.

Kolarov contract expired with Conte, Vidal was signed from Barca for €1m on a two year contract of £40k per week which will expire at end of this season. Darmian was on loan. If you are looking at these cheap short term deals as the reason for Inter financial problems, you have another think coming. Even some youth players who are not in the first team cost Chelsea more.

They have even now added Dzeko now that Conte has left.

These are not the reasons for Inter financial problems. Their problems lie with collapse of commercial Revenue and the pandemic and the owners don't have deep pockets to bail them out. Conte has not been spending beyond the level of an Aston Villa or West Ham

Look at lengthy shalaye to cover for a retardd.. Such a wasted exercise.

You think it is the dwindling commercial income and pandemic that pushed Inter below poverty line but not these wasted signings below:

Kolarov
Valentine Lazaro
Radu
Pinamonti
Moses
Politano
Darmian
Vidal
Godin
Christian Erickson
Sanchez

Those up there are few amongst his numerous wasted investments... just for Young's position, Inter could have used Nagatomo, Kwado Asamoah,... Instead, he signed Young, Kolarov and Valentine Lazaro. Just for RWB position, he armed himself with Hakimi, Moses and Darmian.

All of this just to win Seria A when Juve appointed a rookie manager.

Emmynator:

I understand your point, but you don't buy an old player like young and expect profit from sales. while it is true that it's cheaper short term to go for lower amortized fee, especially if you can't afford to pay transfer fees at the time, over time it may be more costly.
However one thing you are not factoring in is that transfer are mostly a gamble, Hakimi could have flopped and you would have categorized it financial suicide signing a player with one good season under his belt.

Lastly, i think Conte's strategy was best for inter's situation at the time.

una dey answer dayo minion. Conte did almost the same thing for Juve and brought them to the top of serie A

BlueAngel444:
didn't Barca accept but later pull out of the deal and now can't offer a suitable contract to their supposedly new heir


I wonder how much Chelsea would offer now, and by the way Tuchel would likely someone at LWB Fati will find himself among great company of exciting young attacking players in Europe

Barca accepted then because then they had the most clueless than the clueless, the dumber than the dumbest and the crazier than the craziest president in the whole of their sporting history, Niccur wanted to quickly perform panic sales after Covid exposed the financial shit he brought about and he didn't want to be seen as the guy who sold messi, I'm sure they advised him against it cause even Mendes cooled down later
As for the contract you don't worry, negotiations are still ongoing what was shown to him is just the first offer, Barca just fainted, doesn't mean they are dead yet, let tuchel work on building odoi, harvertz, Mount and pulisic into world beaters rather than converting an inside forward into a lwb, Well his release clause is €400 million, if baba olowo is willing to pay that, then they can start from there that's even if Laporta would agree

swiz123:


Look at lengthy shalaye to cover for a retardd.. Such a wasted exercise.

You think it is the dwindling commercial income and pandemic that pushed Inter below poverty line but not these wasted signings below:

Kolarov
Valentine Lazaro
Radu
Pinamonti
Moses
Politano
Darmian
Vidal
Godin
Christian Erickson
Sanchez

Those up there are few amongst his numerous wasted investments... just for Young's position, Inter could have used Nagatomo, Kwado Asamoah,... Instead, he signed Young, Kolarov and Valentine Lazaro. Just for RWB position, he armed himself with Hakimi, Moses and Darmian.

All of this just to win Seria A when Juve appointed a rookie manager.

Rubbish!

Were Moses and Darmian at the club together at the same time?

Moses left, Darmian entered.

Asamoah left, Kolarov entered.

You even went to add back keeper on a pittance like Radu or future prospects like Pinamonti or Politani whose deal was already setup before Conte joined.

I won't even get into Erikson who Conte asked the club not to sign but the club were speculating on making a quick flip for money.

If I ask you which of these players are at the club and their cost, you will start stuttering. You didn't ask Chelsea manager to use Baba Rahman but you want to tag Conte wasteful for not using Kwadwu Asamoah who no one can remember when last that guy was a footballer or even fit.

It's a simple case of Inter not having money to refresh the squad and Conte filling the squad with short term old players and loan signings and still winning the league with them, while finishing with a positive net transfer spend after this summers business is finished. He did all these on lower budget than the likes of Aston Villa. Go and argue with Inter fans.

If I ask you which of these players are still at the club that are weighing them down, you won't be able to answer. You want to make out like Inter is lumbered with a huge wage bill when their wage bill is similar to Roma and co and half of Juventus, many of these players have left and those that remain have only one year on small contracts. You have failed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFW1ecPEjGk

Kilishihunter:

Barca accepted then because then they had the most clueless than the clueless, the dumber than the dumbest and the crazier than the craziest president in the whole of their sporting history, Niccur wanted to quickly perform panic sales after Covid exposed the financial shit he brought about and he didn't want to be seen as the guy who sold messi, I'm sure they advised him against it cause even Mendes cooled down later
As for the contract you don't worry, negotiations are still ongoing what was shown to him is just the first offer, Barca just fainted, doesn't mean they are dead yet, let tuchel work on building odoi, harvertz, Mount and pulisic into world beaters rather than converting an inside forward into a lwb, Well his release clause is €400 million, if baba olowo is willing to pay that, then they can start from there that's even if Laporta would agree

Well well, you thought I meant Fati as LWB nahh, Odoi can play LWB, Pulisic RWB that frees up the wings don't you think. Werner is a striker and we don't have a back striker. Doesn't Fati also play 9

Mount is a midfielder and only play left attack because others were f*ing up


Let me paint you a picture

Fati/Pulisic Lukaku/Werner/Fati Havertz/Ziyech

Odoi/Chilwell Mount/Kante Jorginho/Kovacic James/Pulisic

Anyway I doubt Fati will make it in EPL

Ibime:


Rubbish!

Were Moses and Darmian at the club together at the same time?

Moses left, Darmian entered.

Asamoah left, Kolarov entered.

You even went to add back keeper on a pittance like Radu or future prospects like Pinamonti or Politani whose deal was already setup before Conte joined.

I won't even get into Erikson who Conte asked the club not to sign but the club were speculating on making a quick flip for money.

If I ask you which of these players are at the club and their cost, you will start stuttering.

It's a simple case of Inter not having money to refresh the squad and Conte filling the squad with short term old players and loan signings and still winning the league with them, while finishing with a positive net transfer spend after this summers business is finished. He did all these on lower budget than the likes of Aston Villa. Go and argue with Inter fans.

If I ask you which of these players are still at the club that are weighing them down, you won't be able to answer. You want to make out like Inter is lumbered with a huge wage bill when their wage bill is similar to Roma and co and half of Juventus, many of these players have left and those that remain have only one year on small contracts. You have failed.

What I made out of Inter's situation is entirely self-evident. It is an obvious fact. Little wonder reasonable clubs avoided him like a plague

Their wage bill before Conte came was €82m and Conte left them with a €149m wage bill. Now, they are selling their best players to at least break even again. What do you honestly want me to make out of it?

Amoto94:

The usual strawman argument when you realized that all the lies you have been spewing aren't backed up by irrefutable evidence(s). If you want to know about the history of Islam during the era of the Prophet you go to the people who studied him up close and personal through written works and oral tradition not through the lens of orientalists who were out to demonize and divert attention away from his true teachings. Much of what you will learn from the orientalists aren't contextualize with regards to events of that time.
Even a quack doctor have access to materials which he used to disguise his ignorance and arrogance when confronted with facts and reason as to why he is in the wrong.
Bring out your materials and I promise to refute them one by one In Sha Allah. Your type are the ones who spend time on campus engaging in religious debates when you're not qualified to do so and a little exposure to doubts threw you off balance and ever since you've never remained the same.

I no get time to read this your long epistle. This is such a weak rebuttal.

The historical details of Muhammad and Islam are well narrated in Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim (the 2 highest authorities in Islam after Qur'an) and you want to challenge those?

Besides, there are many materials on the subject written by Salafs and Tab'ieen that explain the life and time of Muhammad.

You don't know Muhammad more than those people or more than the Sahabah (companions) that spent time with the prophet and compiled his sayings and deeds (Sunnah) in different haadith.

swiz123:


What I made out of Inter's situation is entirely self-evident. It is an obvious fact. Little wonder reasonable clubs avoided him like a plague

Their wage bill before Conte came was €82m and Conte left them with a €149m wage bill. Now, they are selling their best players to at least break even again. What do you honestly want me to make out of it?

Inter wage bill is commensurate with their rivals and juniors like Roma, Napoli and AC Milan. Who cares what they paid before for useless players who took them nowhere. You want to squeeze blood out of stone.

Grealish said Pep sees him in a number of different positions. Grealish says he can play as a winger, 8, 10 or false nine

£100m multipurpose player

Emmynator:

I understand your point, but you don't buy an old player like young and expect profit from sales. while it is true that it's cheaper short term to go for lower amortized fee, especially if you can't afford to pay transfer fees at the time, over time it may be more costly.
However one thing you are not factoring in is that transfer are mostly a gamble, Hakimi could have flopped and you would have categorized it financial suicide signing a player with one good season under his belt.

Lastly, i think Conte's strategy was best for inter's situation at the time.

I love what you said about signing old cargos being more costly over time. That is exactly the situation now. How many appearances did Kolarov and Vidal make? All things being equal, Inter wouldn't have sold Lukaku and Hakimi or even soon to be sold Lautaro. Conte pushed them into commiting financial suicide.

Now, Conte has left, Inter are in shambles. They will obviously be worse off now than they where before Conte's fluke success. The only closure they can have is that the man responsible for their misery is still Jobless

Chelsea are still interested in Stuttgart striker Sasa Kalajdzic

Romelu Lukaku won't be involved in the UEFA Super Cup between #Chelsea and Villarreal.