Kobojunkie:
Even though Jesus Christ made it clear that marriages are not of His Kingdom, but of this world, they continue to install themselves as marriage counselors in the name of God.

Marriage was in place before the curse showed up so equality in marriage is not against God but as God created it to be.

After the curse came in however, woman was cursed, condemned by God to be ruled over by man and perish in the end - cease to exist / return to dust when she dies!

However, through Jesus Christ all who believe in Him, including women, are saved from this condemning curse(all those who live under the curse perish much like Adam), and are made equal members of the Kingdom of God.

Sadly, your Mogs have no knowledge of this and so continue to preach lies as sermons in the name of God.

It's like u have a thing against Bishop Oyedepo.
Anything he says , u must always come against it.
Bishop Oyedepo doesn't know the scripture, but do u know how many lives he has influenced?
Jesus Christ said greater works than these shall ye do nd he's doing those greater works.
If u so much know d scripture, try to influence some many lives.
Everytime u are against anything Bishop Oyedepo.
U better be careful

Kobojunkie:
Even though Jesus Christ made it clear that marriages are not of His Kingdom, but of this world, they continue to install themselves as marriage counselors in the name of God.

Marriage was in place before the curse showed up so equality in marriage is not against God but as God created it to be.

After the curse came in however, woman was cursed, condemned by God to be ruled over by man and perish in the end - cease to exist / return to dust when she dies!

However, through Jesus Christ all who believe in Him, including women, are saved from this condemning curse(all those who live under the curse perish much like Adam), and are made equal members of the Kingdom of God.

Sadly, your Mogs have no knowledge of this and so continue to preach lies as sermons in the name of God.

Please show me where Jesus said marriage is not of His kingdom. I know God created Eve to be with Adam, and that was the first intistution. I also know that God laid blessings for marriages. I also know that Jesus gave some instructions on marriages. So, please, can you show me where Jesus said marriage is not of His kingdom?

Snitch24:


Equality between man and woman it's something that can never be possible
No matter how u stress it
E no fit work

It works and is implemented in muxh of the developed world.

Tobechuckwu:

It's like u have a thing against Bishop Oyedepo.
Anything he says , u must always come against it.
Bishop Oyedepo doesn't know the scripture, but do u know how many lives he has influenced?
Jesus Christ said greater works than these shall ye do nd he's doing those greater works.
If u so much know d scripture, try to influence some many lives.
Everytime u are against anything Bishop Oyedepo.
U better be careful

I really don't care about your man's resume.
What instead concerns me are the lies he spews in the name of God. Jesus Christ warned His followers against these false teachers and false prophets such as this man who will tell lies in his name.

Sapphire come out oooooo...

jesusjnr2020:
Some women who God has used to greater effect as Smith Wigglesworth's wife actually questioned their husband when he had strayed from the faith and began to demand things of her that were not of God.

She told him that he was her husband but that Jesus was her Lord!

That was the saving grace of the husband as he was hence restored back to the faith, and would never play with his wife afterwards. That's probably why we hardly have women of such such spiritual calibre these days, because they have made their husbands to take the place of God as the Lord and Master of their lives, hence God cannot use them for much because He cannot share His position with any man.

Moreover, the wife of Abraham questioned her husband concerning Hagar and her son Ishmael, that it was said to have grieved Abraham much, but God told him to hearken to his wife's voice.

Genesis 21:12 (KJV)

And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.

So you can actually see that even though it's what men love to hear, this saying of a woman not questioning her husband and being demonic is not of God but of men.

God bless

She questioned his ways, not his position in the family. Jesus is the Lord, obviously. If the husband does or says things that are not in line with Jesus, then she has the right to question his ways.

tegaever:
Please show me where Jesus said marriage is not of His kingdom. I know God created Eve to be with Adam, and that was the first intistution. I also know that God laid blessings for marriages. I also know that Jesus gave some instructions on marriages. So, please, can you show me where Jesus said marriage is not of His kingdom?

Luke 20 vs 34 - 36.. the Children of this world marry and are given in marriage...

Kobojunkie:
t is not God's commandment , but God's curse that had a woman submitting to a man. That is what that write up was meant to help you see. jesus Christ came to remove that curse from all those women who will instead submit to and obey His teachings and commandments. Meaning no longer are they subject to men but are made equal to them and this in the Kingdom of God.

The new covenant Law, jesus Christ, declared that He alone is Head & Master over each person who belongs to Him. And He also condemned the serving of two masters. - Matthew 23 vs 7 - 10

What is written in Ephesians obviously goes against jesus Christ, God's new covenant Law, when it suggests that women are to submit/worship their husbands proclaiming that husbands are heads, this again against jesus Christ's own decree, over their wives.

So when a husband and his wife obey what is written in Ephesians, they actually do so against jesus Christ and so are not of Him.

I actually thought we could have a decent conversation and let scripture explain itself. However, with your approach of trying to select some parts of the bible which favours your belief but condemn other parts which don't align, you are clearly on a whole new level and it is pointless going further with this discussion.

I'd advise you to be open to the entire scriptures and let God shine the light of his word in your heart for better understanding.
God bless and have a good evening ma'am

blaise26abj:

What makes a marriage “Christian “, “Islamic”,”Hindi”, “Yoruba” or “western”?
They are marriages performed based on standards and rites as laid down in the Holy books , culture and beliefs .
So your argument based on Luke 20:34-36 is null ,void and mischievous . Jesus was simply telling the Sadduccees that upon resurrection , there won’t be husband and wife anymore because there is no marriage in heaven . There is a reason in Christian marriage rites the statement “ till death do you apart” is made .

Again, open your eyes so you can understand what Jesus Christ is telling you instead of injecting your delusion in before you comprehend the message.

Jesus Christ said that it is the children of this world that marry and are given in marriage - not those who are children of God or sons of God.

You become a part of the Kingdom of God while you are here on earth, and not after you reach Heaven. You seize to be a child of this world , becoming a chlde of God instead, while you are still here on earth, and not when you reach Heaven.

The poorer Nigerians get, the richer these people are.

jesusjnr2020:
Some women who God has used to greater effect as Smith Wigglesworth's wife actually questioned their husband when he had strayed from the faith and began to demand things of her that were not of God.

She told him that he was her husband but that Jesus was her Lord!

That was the saving grace of the husband as he was hence restored back to the faith, and would never play with his wife afterwards. That's probably why we hardly have women of such such spiritual calibre these days, because they have made their husbands to take the place of God as the Lord and Master of their lives, hence God cannot use them for much because He cannot share His position with any man.

Moreover, the wife of Abraham questioned her husband concerning Hagar and her son Ishmael, that it was said to have grieved Abraham much, but God told him to hearken to his wife's voice.

Genesis 21:12 (KJV)

And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.

So you can actually see that even though it's what men love to hear, this saying of a woman not questioning her husband and being demonic is not of God but of men.

God bless

You are an enemy of the Kingdom of God. Your philosophy is to attack any good thing from men and women of God. Where did Smith Wigglesworths wife attack his authority as her husband? Some of you will eventually get the judgement of God for your evil conspiracies which threaten the kingdom of God.

In Abraham's case God Almighty had to talk to him. Where did Sarah question Abraham's Authority as her husband? Show me any scripture where Sarah Challenged her husbands authority?

You are an agent of darkness masquerading as an angel of light and your will get your recompense very soon.

In your own marriage go and do whatever you like.

Later, you will also question our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ for choosing only male Apostles!

HoneySwag:
I really don't understand why feminism has become a daily topic on Nairaland. It amazes me of how our African men (Nigerian men precisely) want women to bow to them like they're god's all in the name of submission, then they use Bible verses to justify their points. I agree that a wife should submit to her husband because there has to be a head or a leader in the family. Being the head of a family comes with responsibility, it's not an award. No lady will like to submit to an irresponsible man or a low thinking person.. she won't delay or abandon her dreams to please you (because she's goal oriented you tag her a feminist).
So all you men calling ladies abusive names, get a life, step up your hustle if you want her to submit. Develop your character and change that myopic mindset you have about submission (submission is not stupidity).

Sister , the Bible is very clear about what a man’s responsibilities are to his wife as well as the wife’s to him . If he doesn’t do his part then then Husband shouldn’t expect submission AND VICE VERSA!
My own issue is with feminists going after the submission part without regard to the responsibilities of the man .

Rubbiish:

Madam shut up & reason like a human being!
In your work place don't u have a head u all submit to?? In your school is there no HOD, dean, VC, principal etc staff submit to? The bible never stated the man is the head of woman, but in the institution of marriage, a man is the head, in Nigeria buhari is head, do u share same privileges with buhari?? All immunity covering buhari as the head of states does it apply to u? Does that mean u are worshiping two masters?? Even as low as primary school, there is a head in every class & a head boy or girl, these are simple designs put in place to make the society work & u are making noise! Are u answering your mother's surname?
No be your papa surname u dey bear?
Don't try to fight what is beyond u!

Again... Jesus Christ commands that you should submit to Him and only Him. Now, when you submit, this supposedly in addition to Jesus Christ, do you do this in obedience to Jesus Christ who said it is only Him that you should do so to?

MJBOLT:

I don't understand why the oyedepos are getting worked up by feminists.

Do you get angry when you see a mad person dancing on the road?? NO, it's better to leave these feminists to their madness.

It's a nonstop downhill road if you keep on arguing with them

easygoingchi:

I actually thought we could have a decent conversation and let scripture explain itself. However, with your approach of trying to select some parts of the bible which favours your belief but condemn other parts which don't align, you are clearly on a whole new level and it is pointless going further with this discussion.

I'd advise you to be open to the entire scriptures and let God shine the light of his word in your heart for better understanding.
God bless and have a good evening ma'am

This isn't really rocket science, just that for many of you who profess to believe in Jesus Christ, it remains that way and probably because of what you continue to feed yourselves.

Jesus Christ, the one who is God's Law and hence God over your very life , and Law in the Kingdom of God, declared that it is He alone you should submit to and Obey and that He alone is

* Law over your life
* Teacher
* Shepherd/Guide
* Leader/Authority
* Master/Head
* Helper
* Counselor and comforter

So what do you think all of this means as far a the writings attributed in the letters to the apostles?

Every word ought to be brought under subjection of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, God's Law such that that which goes against His Truth as defined by Jesus Christ, His Law, is considered not of Him.

jesusjnr2020:
Some women who God has used to greater effect as Smith Wigglesworth's wife actually questioned their husband when he had strayed from the faith and began to demand things of her that were not of God.

She told him that he was her husband but that Jesus was her Lord!

That was the saving grace of the husband as he was hence restored back to the faith, and would never play with his wife afterwards. That's probably why we hardly have women of such such spiritual calibre these days, because they have made their husbands to take the place of God as the Lord and Master of their lives, hence God cannot use them for much because He cannot share His position with any man.

Moreover, the wife of Abraham questioned her husband concerning Hagar and her son Ishmael, that it was said to have grieved Abraham much, but God told him to hearken to his wife's voice.

Genesis 21:12 (KJV)

And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.

So you can actually see that even though it's what men love to hear, this saying of a woman not questioning her husband and being demonic is not of God but of men.

God bless

You fail to understand her. Man is the head of the family. It's demonic to argue this. That's what she meant. She is not saying that a woman should call the attention of her husband when he's wrong

Mr. Oyedepo worships Beelzebub in his private shrine and she is talking...

Why would my wife be under the influence of demon if she question me about our affairs? Is she a purpet that she cannot question me?

I don't like to comment on post and thread like this because they are useless.

Jesusjnr. In your judgment, you are 100% correct.



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Kobojunkie:
It works and is implemented in muxh of the developed world.

Maybe u should lookup the meaning of equality again

jesusjnr2020:
Some women who God has used to greater effect as Smith Wigglesworth's wife actually questioned their husband when he had strayed from the faith and began to demand things of her that were not of God.

She told him that he was her husband but that Jesus was her Lord!

That was the saving grace of the husband as he was hence restored back to the faith, and would never play with his wife afterwards. That's probably why we hardly have women of such such spiritual calibre these days, because they have made their husbands to take the place of God as the Lord and Master of their lives, hence God cannot use them for much because He cannot share His position with any man.

Moreover, the wife of Abraham questioned her husband concerning Hagar and her son Ishmael, that it was said to have grieved Abraham much, but God told him to hearken to his wife's voice.

Genesis 21:12 (KJV)

And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.

So you can actually see that even though it's what men love to hear, this saying of a woman not questioning her husband and being demonic is not of God but of men.

God bless

Sarah was just exhibiting a trait ingrained in the DNA of most female folk and that is never taking responsibility for their actions and finding ways to blame men for their own misdeeds. Sarah pushed Hagar on Abraham.. She orchestrated the whole thing but the moment she had a child of her own, she realised Hagar was now disposable and saw Hagars son as a threat to her own child . And so she began to nag Abraham until God had to ask Abraham to send the slave away for the sake of peace. When she was begging Abraham to sleep with Hagar she was referring to Hagar as her maid but when she no longer needed her, she remembered that hagar was a bond woman. I always tell men never listen to a woman even if it's ur mother or wife when they ask you to do something unethical or something your spirit doesn't support no matter how much they nag, stand your ground because they will blame you for that same thing when it no longer serves their purpose. It's like they suddenly develop memory loss on their culpability but surprisingly only remember the part you played and point accusing fingers at you.

Snitch24:

Maybe u should lookup the meaning of equality again

I already explained to you what it equality means and state that it already exists in much of the developed world where men and women share equal rights under the law.

So I am not sure what you are still having issues with.

Kobojunkie:
Again, open your eyes so you can understand what Jesus Christ is telling you instead of injecting your delusion in before you comprehend the message.

Jesus Christ said that it is the children of this world that marry and are given in marriage - not those who are children of God or sons of God.

You become a part of the Kingdom of God while you are here on earth, and not after you reach Heaven. You seize to be a child of this world , becoming a chlde of God instead, while you are still here on earth, and not when you reach Heaven.

Lol . You are the delusional one . Read the full text before showing your bias .
Jesus was simply saying that Children of this world (age) marry and are given in marriage . But in the world(age) to come , the resurrected ones cannot be married or be given in marriage . He also made reference to Moses talking about the God of Abraham,Issac and Jacob ,not as dead men ( even though they were dead physically at that time ) but as living men because He is not God of the dead .
If you still don’t understand or choose not to understand , I can’t do anything but just rest my case here

blaise26abj:

Lol . You are the delusional one . Read the full text before showing your bias .
Jesus was simply saying that Children of this world (age) marry and are given in marriage . But in the world(age) to come , the resurrected ones cannot married or be given in marriage . He also made reference to Moses talking about the God of Abraham,Issac and Jacob ,not as dead men ( even though they were dead physically at that time ) but as living men because He is not God of the dead .
If you still don’t understand or choose not to understand , I can’t do anything but just rest my case here

1. Let's make it easy, shall we.Who are the children of this world who marry and are given in marriage?

2. Who are those who are accounted worthy to obtain the world you claim is to come? Are they also children of the world?

3. Obviously, the reference to Moses, Abraham and Isaac wasn't to do with marriage but the fact that jkse who are dead in God and living(have eternal life) and not dead(dust).

CatANDratTHEORY:
Wife to the General Overseer and President of Living Faith Church Worldwide, Faith Oyedepo has flayed feminist groups in a fresh social media post.

The woman of God in her post said any woman or women’s organization which attempts to question the position of the man in the family should be regarded as being under the influence of demons.

Oyedepo’s wife said this in a post on her verified Facebook page.

The renowned pastor’s wife said women should be in subjection to their husbands in everything.

Her post read:



https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=4179202585460507&id=448014781912658

I like the way Bishop Oyedepo and his wife are addressing this particular issue.

This has become a very big problem in today's relationships

Women are beginning to forget there roles in the home

It's good they are raising this issue now

Because Head or tail, it's the woman that will loose and bear the brunt when men begins to react against these strange philosophies and many children will be raised in homes that are divided and where the father don't give a danm

Many young men are being exposed to redpill ideology at an alarming rate on which the women will bear the brunt

This feminism has crept into the church, many Pastors homes are not speard

So they are right in adressing this serious issue

Kobojunkie:
I already explained to you what it equality means and state that it already exists in much of the developed world where men and women share equal rights under the law.

So I am not sure what you are still having issues with.

Gud night bro

Xbee007:
Even if your husband is a maniac? Religion indeed is an insult to human intelligence.

If you prayed to God to lead you to him from the beginning, he will not be a maniac.

All these internet/ social media indomie generation warriors just spewing anything their small brain catches.

God authored marriage.

1. Let's make it easy, shall we.Who are the children of this world who marry and are given in marriage? Answer : All of us in the world . Present and past . Unless you choose not to marry

2. Who are those who are accounted worthy to obtain the world you claim is to come? Are they also children of the world? Answer : 1st question -God’s children including the resurrected ones ( Luke 20:36) 2nd question - They are/were children of this world(age) that are raptured or resurrected for the new world(age) to come

[quote author=jesusjnr2020 post=104753369]Some women who God has used to greater effect as Smith Wigglesworth's wife actually questioned their husband when he had strayed from the faith and began to demand things of her that were not of God.

She told him that he was her husband but that Jesus was her Lord!

That was the saving grace of the husband as he was hence restored back to the faith, and would never play with his wife afterwards. That's probably why we hardly have women of such such spiritual calibre these days, because they have made their husbands to take the place of God as the Lord and Master of their lives, hence God cannot use them for much because He cannot share His position with any man.

Moreover, the wife of Abraham questioned her husband concerning Hagar and her son Ishmael, that it was said to have grieved Abraham much, but God told him to hearken to his wife's voice.

Genesis 21:12 (KJV)

And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.

So you can actually see that even though it's what men love to hear, this saying of a woman not questioning her husband and being demonic is not of God but of men.

God bless

Wrong, feminism is Rebellion. What Smith's Wife did was that she helped him in the faith, not question his authority as the head of the home. Even Paul the apostle admonished women to be submissive to their "unbelieving" husbands, so that they can be saved.

[quote author=Kobojunkie post=104753395]Even though Jesus Christ made it clear that marriages are not of His Kingdom, but of this world, they continue to install themselves as marriage counselors in the name of God.

Marriage was in place before the curse showed up so equality in marriage is not against God but as God created it to be.

After the curse came in however, woman was cursed, condemned by God to be ruled over by man and perish in the end - cease to exist / return to dust when she dies!

However, through Jesus Christ all who believe in Him, including women, are saved from this condemning curse(all those who live under the curse perish much like Adam), and are made equal members of the Kingdom of God.

Sadly, your Mogs have no knowledge of this and so continue to preach lies as sermons in the name of God.

Read the scriptures well, why do the apostles still preach about marriage and submissives?

blaise26abj:
1. Let's make it easy, shall we.Who are the children of this world who marry and are given in marriage? Answer : All of us in the world . Present and past . Unless you choose not to marry

2. Who are those who are accounted worthy to obtain the world you claim is to come? Are they also children of the world? Answer : 1st question -God’s children including the resurrected ones ( Luke 20:36) 2nd question - They are/were children of this world(age) that are raptured or resurrected for the new world(age) to come

Wait a minute... Jesus Christ, in His response, mentioned two different groups of people

A. Children of this world
B. Those who are accounted worthy to obtain(future) the world you claim to come.

However, in your response, you ignore the differences between the two groups, and attempt to lop them up as one and the same. Why?

Please go back and read that passage again maybe tjs time from verse 28 - Luke 20 vs 28 - 36

@Kobojunkie
Even though Jesus Christ made it clear that marriages are not of His Kingdom, but of this world, they continue to install themselves as marriage counselors in the name of God.

Marriage was in place before the curse showed up so equality in marriage is not against God but as God created it to be.

After the curse came in however, woman was cursed, condemned by God to be ruled over by man and perish in the end - cease to exist / return to dust when she dies!

However, through Jesus Christ all who believe in Him, including women, are saved from this condemning curse(all those who live under the curse perish much like Adam), and are made equal members of the Kingdom of God.

Sadly, your Mogs have no knowledge of this and so continue to preach lies as sermons in the name of God.


@me
This man and his comments on Christian issues. Believers beware!!!

DIVAD2000:
Read the scriptures well, why do the apostles still preach about marriage and submissives?

Did Jesus Christ say , "Submit to an obey my apostles" or did He say, "Submit to and obey my teachings and commandments"?

In John 15 vs 14, did Jesus Christ say those who are His friends are those who obey His apostles? Or did Jesus Christ say, " Those who are my friends are those who do what I tell them to do"?