budaatum:


To some, seems women and children don't count. See one pig telling me to provide one of them so he can personally question whether she likes her vulnerability!

Their own parliament passed Sharia as the supreme law of the land.
They will get the extreme sharia.
What part of what Taliban implementation is against sharia? One thing only and back it up with where it says that rule/punishment is against sharia.

basilico:

They brutalize their way into power

And those "they brutalized their way into power" over, like it like Americans will like it when boogaloo and proud boys and BLM and Sanders "brutalize their way into power", right?

benalvino3:


some of these people here don't understand why Doctors and other professionals will leave their job in the UK to go and join jihadist in the middle east. they don't understand why Lee Rigby was killed and the killer (A Nigeria) was saying the British army should stop killing their people in the middle east. his people are not the British people, they are not Nigerians but Muslims across the middle east.

you people will be fast to shout bigot when i talk about these people but you fail to realise that if they have their way anywhere or as a dominant force in the world, all your freedom will be gone ASAP. Shariah law will be part of your Government and you will probably be punished or killed for the crime of blasphemy.

a lot a Good just like any other good person, a lot are quiet just waiting to see the momentum before you realise where their support is and a lot are very vocal especially in the UK where they are allowed to utter hate speech but if you bring awareness into a grooming gang and you are white you become enemy of the state while at the same time the state is trying to blend in people who left the country to fight for ISIS and returned

They live in a feel good world.
Europe already has areas where police are hesitant to patrol.

budaatum:


And those "they brutalized their way into power" over, like it like Americans will like it when boogaloo and proud boys and BLM and Sanders "brutalize their way into power", right?

Dont be stupid. Extreme group fighting for a religious cause is whats happening in Afghanistan

basilico:


Dont be stupid. Extreme group fighting for a religious cause is whats happening in Afghanistan

Like "boogaloo and proud boys and BLM and Sanders" are "extreme groups fighting for a just cause"?

Educate yourself please.

https://www.hrw.org/report/2020/06/30/you-have-no-right-complain/education-social-restrictions-and-justice-taliban-held

budaatum:


Never done this to you before, have I!?

It's a random thought and there's been reports of Afghanistan military losing support of people basically because of their corruption and high handedness

budaatum:

Like "boogaloo and proud boys and BLM and Sanders" are "extreme groups fighting for a just cause"?

Educate yourself please.

https://www.hrw.org/report/2020/06/30/you-have-no-right-complain/education-social-restrictions-and-justice-taliban-held

This what Talibans dont want because its against Sharia. A 1990 photo.
One among many things.

There's also some local interest who want Taliban to take over so they can share power and dominate minorities, an Indian lady told me Afghanistan always been like this and hardly knows peace.

sanpipita:
There's also some local interest who want Taliban to take over so they can share power and dominate minorities, an Indian lady told me Afghanistan always been like this and hardly knows peace.

Tell that to buda before she makes a fool of herself
Already there is a some woman governor in some district. As soon as Taliban takes over she will be under 'house arrest' And a man will take over

sanpipita:


It's a random thought and there's been reports of Afghanistan military losing support of people basically because of their corruption and high handedness

I think the highhandness of taliban is much harsher.

Its like gun touting magas imposing proudboy ideology after forcefully taking over on Jan 6!

sanpipita:
There's also some local interest who want Taliban to take over so they can share power and dominate minorities, an Indian lady told me Afghanistan always been like this and hardly knows peace.

So not everyone accepts taliban, right? And they are agitating so there's no peace?

budaatum:


I think the highhandness of taliban is much harsher.

Its like gun touting magas imposing proudboy ideology after forcefully taking over on Jan 6!

How different is the Taliban sharia from Saudi or Isis sharia. Or your favorite jihadists the Boko Haram sharia?

PrideofLincoln1:
You are wrong. The United States didn't fail, Afghanistan failed. Are we supposed to stay their for eternity. Let the Afghans manage their affairs. American taxpayers including yours truly are fed up propping this Government that are corrupt and they do not want to help each other. After $2 Trillion and over 2.500 Americans dead in twenty years, i guess we should stay there forever. American infrastructure needs to be be upgraded and let Afghanistan and Iraq fix their countries. Like i said earlier, they can kill each other off in Afghanistan like they have been doing for ages as long as they don't bring their madness to my country.

I vehemently disagree with you. The Afghan debacle is one of the greatest failures in US foreign policy. Just like in Iraq, the US went into Afghanistan without any clear objective or agenda outside getting Osama bin Laden for the 911 attack. No long time strategy.

The US should have lead her allies for have a longer presence in Afghanistan - maybe 50 years or beyond, until the present generation of die hard Islamic fundamentalists die out. The British were in Nigeria and Ghana for close to 100 years. You cannot significantly change the mindset of a people in 20 years.

In 20 years, the $2 trillion and 2,500 dead would pale into insignificance when compared with the havoc an Islamic fundamentalist Taliban can wreck on US and it's allies, along with their interests.

On geo-political strategic levels the Afghanistan withdrawal was a disaster. Afghanistan is situated mid way between Russia, China and Iran. A strong US presence there would have been a very stategic position. Now I am sure China would rush in and create an alliance with the Taliban. The incoming Taliban government would need money to run its government and China is always willing to loan rogue governments money - with conditions attached. Imagine the anti west alliance of China, Russia, Iran and now Afghanistan. It would be more difficult to rein in Iran.

Throughout history, countries invade other countries for exploitation or for strategic reason most times at huge financial and human costs. The did not exploit its advantageous positions in all its military adventures. They are too impatient and usually give up after a couple of decades. We all now know that the best way to defeat the US military is just hold out for 1 or 2 decades and they will run off with their tails between their legs.

So called "educated" idiots mocked the middle eastern peace deal the "orange" man made possible. Now look what's happening in Afghanistan under "no mean tweet" president

MaziAlaye:
So called "educated" idiots mocked the middle eastern peace deal the "orange" man made possible. Now look what's happening in Afghanistan under "no mean tweet" president

The was no middle east peace deal. What there was was middle east business deal. If the "Orange" man proposed any middle east peace deal involving the main participants in the middle east conflict, please share it with us.

budaatum:


So not everyone accepts taliban, right? And they are agitating so there's no peace?

The whole point is Taliban is backed by some good level of local support and interests, there might be dissenters but they are taking a beating right now.

MaziAlaye:
So called "educated" idiots mocked the middle eastern peace deal the "orange" man made possible. Now look what's happening in Afghanistan under "no mean tweet" president

Who made the Taliban deal to withdraw soldiers?

PrideofLincoln1:
You are wrong. The United States didn't fail, Afghanistan failed. Are we supposed to stay their for eternity. Let the Afghans manage their affairs. American taxpayers including yours truly are fed up propping this Government that are corrupt and they do not want to help each other. After $2 Trillion and over 2.500 Americans dead in twenty years, i guess we should stay there forever. American infrastructure needs to be be upgraded and let Afghanistan and Iraq fix their countries. Like i said earlier, they can kill each other off in Afghanistan like they have been doing for ages as long as they don't bring their madness to my country.

You sat down to type this rubbish..God of mercy!!!!
You're not worried that Taliban’s take over of major cities in Afghanistan might embolden most Terrorist groups in sub-Saharan countries. Countries like Burkina Faso, DRC, Nigeria, Somalia and Mali are gonna see more terrorist activities and you say it's not gonna affect the USA??... Lmao thank God say no be your type dey handle foreign policy.

wirinet:


I vehemently disagree with you. The Afghan debacle is one of the greatest failures in US foreign policy. Just like in Iraq, the US went into Afghanistan without any clear objective or agenda outside getting Osama bin Laden for the 911 attack. No long time strategy.

The US should have lead her allies for have a longer presence in Afghanistan - maybe 50 years or beyond, until the present generation of die hard Islamic fundamentalists die out. The British were in Nigeria and Ghana for close to 100 years. You cannot significantly change the mindset of a people in 20 years.

In 20 years, the $2 trillion and 2,500 dead would pale into insignificance when compared with the havoc an Islamic fundamentalist Taliban can wreck on US and it's allies along with their interests.

On geo-political strategic levels the Afghanistan withdrawal was a disaster. Afghanistan is situated mid way between Russia, China and Iran. A strong US presence there would have been a very stategic position. Now I am sure China would rush in and create an alliance with the Taliban. The incoming Taliban government would need money to run its government and China is always willing to loan rogue governments money - with conditions attached. Imagine the anti west alliance of China, Russia, Iran and now Afghanistan. It would be more difficult to rein in Iran.

Throughout history, countries invade other countries for exploitation or for strategic reason most times at huge financial and human costs. The did not exploit its advantageous positions in all its military adventures. They are too impatient and usually give up after a couple of decades. We all now know that the best way to defeat the US military is just hold out for 1 or 2 decades and they will run off with their tails between their legs.

Call me names. The western allies went there to civilize the Afghans who have a different perspective.Trying to be nice and play by the rules of war will never work. The Chinese don't play by the rules set by western armies. Western armies have lawyers and media cameras in the front lines to verify no war crimes are being breached.
If the Chinese invade, the Talibans would be disappeared never to be heard of again.

Be nice to people who fight attrition wars , with the ICC being on watch for war crimes And you will waste human and monetary resources trying to pacify such antagonists.

Let China invade and close our eyes, Reagan was fighting communists , he armed the Taliban mujahedeen and they sent Russkies back in body bags by yhe thousands till the Russians went broke. He gave them Stinger missiles that Rambo the pilot knew how to avoid

China should be encouraged to invade Afghanistan and exploit all the mineral sources. They will start exporting the rare minerals in less than a year.Afghan is mineral rich.

sanpipita:


Who made the Taliban deal to withdraw soldiers?

At this point that don't matter. Trump broke deals that Obama made and Biden reinstated them.
Biden is an impotent if he could not see that the Trump deal was bad, he should have rectified it and added more troops to prop up the corrupt afghan govt . Blaming Trump is neither here nor there at this time.
He blamed Trump by the way yesterday.
Biden feels bad because the gay and BLM flags at the Kabul embassy will be brought down.

wirinet:


The was no middle east peace deal. What there was was middle east business deal. If the "Orange" man proposed any middle east peace deal involving the main participants in the middle east conflict, please share it with us.

Lmao Trump was nominated for 3 Nobel prizes for his policies regarding the Middle East and in even places they said could never happen but chief wirinet said there was no peace deals.

MaziAlaye:

Lmao Trump was nominated for 3 Nobel prizes for his policies regarding the Middle East and in even places they said could never happen but chief wirinet said there was no peace deals.

Anyone can nominate any other person for Nobel Peace Prize. Tens of people are nominated every year, it doesn't mean Jack.

Now can I see details of the peace deal.

sanpipita:


Who made the Taliban deal to withdraw soldiers?

Trump set a withdraw date and the moment Biden changed the date he owned it. The deal Trump struck was nullified and the Taliban were able to take the moral high ground in their takeover. You really suck at following along here.

You guys will continue to blame trump for the next four years aren't you?

wirinet:


Anyone can nominate any other person for Nobel Peace Prize. Tens of people are nominated every year, it doesn't mean Jack.

Now can I see details of the peace deal.

El Al airlines allowed to land in Qatar and fly over Saudia airspace is one part of the deal.
Bad thing huh?

wirinet:


Anyone can nominate any other person for Nobel Peace Prize. Tens of people are nominated every year, it doesn't mean Jack.

Now can I see details of the peace deal.

One question you have to ask yourself is how Donald Trump was able to manage and keep these guys at bay for 4 years. Was a deal struck? or was it the fear of the American military under him. Any side it swings to. It worked

MaziAlaye:

Trump set a withdraw date and the moment Biden changed the date he owned it. The deal Trump struck was nullified and the Taliban were able to take the moral high ground in their takeover. You really suck at following along here.

You guys will continue to blame trump for the next four years aren't you?

Trump is the effective president till today
Everything Joe Biden does, his handlers look at what Trump position was , then they do the opposite.
Joe has brought nothing new. All his policies are reversals of Trumps ideas and actions.
Trump is effectively the President. That's why they blame him for everything when things go South.
Joe Biden cant go golfing. The last time he tried He hit the ball which went flying backwards because Trump always drives the ball forwards.

MaziAlaye:

Trump set a withdraw date and the moment Biden changed the date he owned it. The deal Trump struck was nullified and the Taliban were able to take the moral high ground in their takeover. You really suck at following along here.

You guys will continue to blame trump for the next four years aren't you?

Trump already started withdrawing soldiers before Biden took over and its little change in date that makes its Biden's deal? with look of things the change might even be needed because it gives America the excuse to counter Taliban if they wish.

basilico:


At this point that don't matter. Trump broke deals that Obama made and Biden reinstated them.
Biden is an impotent if he could not see that the Trump deal was bad, he should have rectified it and added more troops to prop up the corrupt afghan govt . Blaming Trump is neither here nor there at this time.
He blamed Trump by the way yesterday.
Biden feels bad because the gay and BLM flags at the Kabul embassy will be brought down.

Someone makes a bad deal and person who take over is blamed? if its was Obama that made the Taliban deal will you maintain this stance?

When Trump was making this stupid deal, it was warned against but you guys preferred calling him man of peace

sanpipita:


Trump already started withdrawing soldiers before Biden took over and its little change in date that makes its Biden's deal? with look of things the change might even be needed because it gives America the excuse to counter Taliban if they wish.

Why did Baghram airbase evacuate. Joe is sending UpTo 3000 troops. Another 1,000 82nd Airborne paratroopers sent to a neighbor country on standby
Don't ever excuse Joe Biden . He had the power to act. He owns the debacle lock stock and barrel.
Instead the gay flag will be brought down

basilico:


Why did Baghram airbase evacuate. Joe is sending UpTo 3000 troops. Another 1,000 82nd Airborne paratroopers sent to a neighbor country on standby
Don't ever excuse Joe Biden . He had the power to act. He owns the debacle lock stock and barrel.
Instead the gay flag will be brought down

Why the onus is on biden to act, I still don't understand why you guys feign ignorance about how all this started, its even more time to reflect than bicker but of course conservatives are looking for a way to blame biden for a war they started.

basilico:


El Al airlines allowed to land in Qatar and fly over Saudia airspace is one part of the deal.
Bad thing huh?

That's a business between Qatar and Saudi Arabia deal and not a peace deal. Besides there were no hostilities or conflict between Qatar and Saudi.

sanpipita:


Why the onus is on biden to act, I still don't understand why you guys feign ignorance about how all this started, its even more time to reflect than bicker but of course conservatives are looking for a way to blame biden for a war they started.

What BS are you pushing? Joe Biden stopped Keystone pipeline Day one. He returned to Paris climate change agreement. He stopped Remain in Mexico policy.
He reversed Iran JPCOA deal.
He could not reverse the Afghan deal.
Are you nuts?


I hope you have not replied.We blame the source for how the war started?
Yea I know. Was started by conservative president Bush . We can blame senior Bush for marrying mom Bush Jnr and for them not remaining childless. We can go back further and blame Homo Habilis evolving to Homo Erectus and then Homo Sapien.

Anything to shift the blame from Joe Biden.