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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:39pm On Aug 16, 2021
obixcel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_D3nFJ9sis
Where's the President? grin
When CNN turns on the Biden Admin., you know it's gotten real bad grin

Biden is expecting the media to damage control for him so he is somewhere committing paedo crimes

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:40pm On Aug 16, 2021
obixcel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_D3nFJ9sis
Where's the President? grin
When CNN turns on the Biden Admin., you know it's gotten real bad grin

This is getting interesting

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Timiofak(m): 3:41pm On Aug 16, 2021
raumdeuter:


Trump has his plan for withdrawal, Biden has his plan for withdrawal.
Trump is not president, Biden is and he implemented his plan for withdrawal

How is this Biden plan going so far that he is now planning to send troops back to where he just withdrew from?

But you agree both had plans for withdrawal, ? Lol

Nice talking to you

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 3:41pm On Aug 16, 2021
raumdeuter:


Some people are made for war, all these Taliban have been living in the desert and are hardened people they already are in warfare for over 40yrs. I heard they already changed the name to Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. Some of those guys have not lived in a real house for over 10-15yrs

No one that has tasted enjoment like war but for people who believed they are fighting for a bigger cause or for God, they dont reason that way same ideology with Boko Haram

Surely Russia or China would have dealt with them well but Western standards of warfare doesnt work for these people, See how ISIS was doing anyhow, when Trump looked the other way and allowed Assad and Russia to deal with them, ISIS mellowed.

In life cultures are different all those western idea of fighting war with humane face does not work with people who are ready ro behead or burn people alive in cages


Those Taliban are only 150,000 men. Americas problem is trying to build democracy while fighting those guys instead of letting military run the country under martial law till those guys are forced out.

Assad would have bombed to smithereens including civilians in any town the Taliban took over till the Pashtun population start giving up the Taliban cos nobody like war.

The day Taliban try China, they will be nuked

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:41pm On Aug 16, 2021
budaatum:


Biden did not want to stop the process!
He is getting US out of Afghanistan.

But he has sent them back then increase terror alert in the US. Even your country is saying he is clueless for not even doing it with them, by acting alone etc.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:43pm On Aug 16, 2021
Timiofak:
I mean, I mean.
Why the sudden changes?
The United States’ top military leaders on Wednesday touted Afghanistan’s abilities to prevent the Taliban from taking over as the militant terrorist group has made territorial advances amid the United States’ withdrawal from the war-torn country. Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters during a press conference with Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin that despite the narrative that the Taliban is winning, the Afghan Security Forces “have the capacity to sufficiently fight and defend their country.” “A negative outcome, a Taliban automatic military takeover, is not a foregone conclusion,” he said. “We will continue to monitor the situation closely and make adjustments as necessary.”

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:45pm On Aug 16, 2021
Ibime:



Those Taliban are only 150,000 men. Americas problem is trying to build democracy while fighting those guys instead of letting military run the country under martial law till those guys are forced out.

Assad would have bombed to smithereens including civilians in any town the Taliban took over till the Pashtun population start giving up the Taliban cos nobody like war.

The day Taliban try China, they will be nuked

Now is fighting season in Afghanistan,
The Taliban are out, they get crushed by the US as well which is why they behave themselves. Trump has showed them.

Biden could have gradually pulled out and it should be during the winter if there is any total pullout because then the Taliban fighters will be in Pakistan as they can't stand the wicked weather. The Pentagon is filled with tiktok and snapchat generals who are now trying to master the art of critical race theory instead of fighting a real enemy.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 3:45pm On Aug 16, 2021
basilico:


The United States’ top military leaders on
Wednesday touted Afghanistan’s abilities
to prevent the Taliban from taking over
as the militant terrorist group has made
territorial advances amid the United
States’ withdrawal from the war-torn
country.
Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint
Chiefs of Staff, told reporters during a
press conference with Secretary of
Defense Lloyd Austin that despite the
narrative that the Taliban is winning, the
Afghan Security Forces “have the
capacity to sufficiently fight and defend
their country.”
“A negative outcome, a Taliban
automatic military takeover, is not a
foregone conclusion,” he said. “We will
continue to monitor the situation closely
and make adjustments as necessary.”

All this means nothing when the President himself run. When the leader leaves the battlefield, the battle is over.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:46pm On Aug 16, 2021
Ibime:



Those Taliban are only 150,000 men. Americas problem is trying to build democracy while fighting those guys instead of letting military run the country under martial law till those guys are forced out.

Assad would have bombed to smithereens including civilians in any town the Taliban took over till the Pashtun population start giving up the Taliban cos nobody like war.

The day Taliban try China, they will be nuked

Obama had one insane rule to coalition forces.

Do not fire unless fired on first ( in an ambush)
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:47pm On Aug 16, 2021
Ibime:



Those Taliban are only 150,000 men. Americas problem is trying to build democracy while fighting those guys instead of letting military run the country under martial law till those guys are forced out.

Assad would have bombed to smithereens including civilians in any town the Taliban took over till the Pashtun population start giving up the Taliban cos nobody like war.

The day Taliban try China, they will be nuked

This you said here is always the problem the West will have going to other countries for prolonged intervention, They dont understand rules of engagement, Anyone is fair game

I am sure a typical Afghan Syrian and Iraqi will laugh when they hear the standard American soldiers are held to. America wont want to enforce martial law because people back home will criticize.

See how Russia is handling sovereign countries like Georgia Ukraine etc never mind ragtag terrorist groups

Its just better to stay away from these countries if we are trying to use western standard rules of engagement for them. The soldiers in the warfront will be pissed that they cannot lay hands on someone who just 5mins ago was trying to kill them

They are not even allow to waterboard terrorists to get information out of them. Anyone who burns people in cages and behead innocent kids shouldnt be help to the laws governing normal people

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:48pm On Aug 16, 2021
Ibime, how do you nuke an enemy that does not have any geographical territory? Except your want to nuke Pakistan and Afghanistan. I don't see how nuke can be used loosely
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 3:50pm On Aug 16, 2021
benalvino3:


Now is fighting season in Afghanistan,
The Taliban are out, they get crushed by the US as well which is why they behave themselves. Trump has showed them.

Biden could have gradually pulled out and it should be during the winter if there is any total pullout because then the Taliban fighters will be in Pakistan as they can't stand the wicked weather. The Pentagon is filled with tiktok and snapchat generals who are now trying to master the art of critical race theory instead of fighting a real enemy.

Was Trump withdrawal timeline during the winter? Everybody dey form Professor now

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:53pm On Aug 16, 2021
Ibime:


Was Trump withdrawal timeline during the winter? Everybody dey form Professor now

Trump's withdrawal timeline is gradual and he made it clear it will be situational. Biden was held captive of his decision to withdraw even when all indications shows chaos is inevitable.

Trump has already done it before, and he would have done it again where he would stop any advancement from the Taliban, giving the Afghan army support.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by MaziAlaye(m): 3:53pm On Aug 16, 2021
China removed all their citizens from Afghanistan since last month while negotiating with the Talibans. Biden was looking for media coverage to make his evacuation classy grin grin

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 3:55pm On Aug 16, 2021
People on Nairaland can say whatever they want to say but the bottomline is that who pays the piper, dictate the tunes. Overwhelming majority of Americans wants our troops out of that cursed Afghanistan and that's exactly what President Biden did. I supported Trump when he said it the same way i am supporting President Biden pulling out of that God forbidden hellhole. If Afghans who have been on jihad mission for more than four decades wants to off each other, let them go for it. Not all countries wants America's Democracy. The mistake America makes was not leaving five years after Bin Laden was assassinated. Over $2 Trillion and 2,500 Americans dead, time to come home because America cannot be moral police officer of the world. The bottomline line is that the tax paying Americans who are financing the war are fed up and they are glad that young Americans won't die for a worthless cause.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 3:57pm On Aug 16, 2021
Ibime:


Was Trump withdrawal timeline during the winter? Everybody dey form Professor now

---This was Trump's statement in April 2021 bragging about his planned deal to withdraw on May 1st ---which have since been removed from Trump's website---

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 3:59pm On Aug 16, 2021
benalvino3:


Trump's withdrawal timeline is gradual and he made it clear it will be situational. Biden was held captive of his decision to withdraw even when all indications shows chaos is inevitable.

Trump has already done it before, and he would have done it again where he would stop any advancement from the Taliban, giving the Afghan army support.

---Like Trump's plan in the statement---

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:00pm On Aug 16, 2021
Biden admin, which is currently on vacation, disregarded assessments of several intelligence agencies that consistently predicted the rapid Taliban takeover of Afghanistan, U.S. officials tell ABC.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 4:03pm On Aug 16, 2021
Na so - clueful.

benalvino3:


They are now 6000 troops sent back into Afghanistan. I bet they are planning to send more troops. clueless
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:04pm On Aug 16, 2021
A murderous terrorist group took over a country and post on Twitter, TWITTER

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 4:05pm On Aug 16, 2021
benalvino3:


Trump's withdrawal timeline is gradual and he made it clear it will be situational. Biden was held captive of his decision to withdraw even when all indications shows chaos is inevitable.

Trump has already done it before, and he would have done it again where he would stop any advancement from the Taliban, giving the Afghan army support.


Stop lying and tell that to Trump

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:05pm On Aug 16, 2021
feedthenation:


---This was Trump's statement in April 2021 bragging about his planned deal to withdraw on May 1st ---which have since been removed from Trump's website---

Joe owns this it. Whether Trump supported rarly or not withdrawal, Joe made the call.
His military generals made assumptions probably not listening to those who were on the ground.
Joe should fire his military advisors because.. well this is his Saigon.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 4:06pm On Aug 16, 2021
To practice their nukery piles - we've passed that testing stage grin

Ibime:



Those Taliban are only 150,000 men. Americas problem is trying to build democracy while fighting those guys instead of letting military run the country under martial law till those guys are forced out.

Assad would have bombed to smithereens including civilians in any town the Taliban took over till the Pashtun population start giving up the Taliban cos nobody like war.

The day Taliban try China, they will be nuked
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 4:07pm On Aug 16, 2021
benalvino3:
Ibime, how do you nuke an enemy that does not have any geographical territory? Except your want to nuke Pakistan and Afghanistan. I don't see how nuke can be used loosely

China go nuke Kabul, no time for long story. Make civilians follow join until them use hand pinpoint where Taliban dey hide

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:10pm On Aug 16, 2021
Ibime:



Stop lying and tell that to Trump

Who is lying, trump has a process, his date was may. How does that prove anything? You could say we are lying if we say trump did not plan to pull out.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:12pm On Aug 16, 2021
Ibime:


China go nuke Kabul, no time for long story. Make civilians follow join until them use hand pinpoint where Taliban dey hide

China cannot do that because they will get nuked themselves and they will lose Pakistan as an ally, their country will likely not receive oil from any nation
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 4:19pm On Aug 16, 2021
benalvino3:


China cannot do that because they will get nuked themselves and they will lose Pakistan as an ally, their country will likely not receive oil from any nation

Who go nuke China for nuking Afghanistan?

Anyway I'm not talking now, I'm talking when China done gain more strength. As China gains strength, human rights will be eroded.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 4:19pm On Aug 16, 2021
benalvino3:


Who is lying, trump have a process, his date was may. How does that prove anything? You could say we are lying if we say trump did not plan to pull out.


He no get process, he is in a rush just like Biden.

Na the same Army, same generals wey dey feed Biden info go feed Trump info

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 4:21pm On Aug 16, 2021
benalvino3:


China cannot do that because they will get nuked themselves and they will lose Pakistan as an ally, their country will likely not receive oil from any nation

---China already accepts the Taliban---

BEIJING (Kyodo) -- China on Monday expressed hope that the Taliban will establish a political structure that would lay the foundation for the realization of lasting peace in Afghanistan, effectively accepting its takeover of the Asian country.

China wants the Taliban to "curb all kinds of terrorism and criminal acts as well as enable the Afghan people to stay away from war and to rebuild their beautiful homeland," Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying told reporters in Beijing.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:21pm On Aug 16, 2021
Ibime:


Who go nuke China for nuking Afghanistan?

Anyway I'm not talking now, I'm talking when China done gain more strength. As China gains strength, human rights will be eroded.

Will their nuke even work? Make China nuke see what will happen. Make them even attack Taiwan as they confidence to strong since Biden
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 4:22pm On Aug 16, 2021
benalvino3:


Will their nuke even work? Make China nuke see what will happen. Make them even attack Taiwan as they confidence to strong since Biden

That's just a matter of time. Within some few decades, if China shi, everybody go keep quiet. They have already started bullying Australia within that hemisphere and threatening Britain.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 4:29pm On Aug 16, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
People on Nairaland can say whatever they want to say but the bottomline is that who pays the piper, dictate the tunes. Overwhelming majority of Americans wants our troops out of that cursed Afghanistan and that's exactly what President Biden did. I supported Trump when he said it the same way i am supporting President Biden pulling out of that God forbidden hellhole. If Afghans who have been on jihad mission for more than four decades wants to off each other, let them go for it. Not all countries wants America's Democracy. The mistake America makes was not leaving five years after Bin Laden was assassinated. Over $2 Trillion and 2,500 Americans dead, time to come home because America cannot be moral police officer of the world. The bottomline line is that the tax paying Americans who are financing the war are fed up and they are glad that young Americans won't die for a worthless cause.
I don't understand the fake outrage.
Majority of Americans wanted to leave Afganistan. Trump signed an agreement to do that. Trump even wanted an earlier date. Biden completed what Trump started.
Majority of Afghans also wanted the foreigners out of their country, and they got their desire.
Alot of countries are already trying to work with the Taliban..turkey is not pulling out their high commission, same as Russia.

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