Interesting

The5DME:
I don't care about anything regarding Nigeria. E no concern me. I jus want leave this country; that's all I care about.

if you leave, what then happen to your other family members, your parents? I'm not in Nigeria but I'm always bothered because of my parents and siblings.

Positivepoint:


ISIS are sponsored by the US and NATO and us and NATO are Christain countries.

Really??
If the U.S is a Christian country, then Nigeria is a Muslim country then.
You're a liar, NATO is not a religious body but a military alliance of nations, Infact NATO protected Muslims in the Balkans during the Bosnian wars. Very soon, you'll even claim that the U.N is a religious organization too.
Secondly, you claim that ISIS was sponsored by the U.S, but the U.S provided air supports for the Kurdish forces while they were closing in on El-Baghdadi??
How do you reconcile the U.S efforts in the annihilation of ISIS??
Till date, the allegations made by Recep Erdogan, the President of Turkey that the US was providing support for ISIS has not been proven, he even said that he has pictures, videos and info to prove it all but the world is still waiting for the evidence he claimed exist.

If your point of argument is that all the nations in power are guilty of one misactions or another, I agree with that. But give proofs to back your assertions not mere hearsay or allegations.

Create a vaccine that will reduce their birth rate...

It will take care of their multiplication.

USA was at war with China and The Arabs indirectly..

Handling the Talibans will be an easy task..But they don't want to cross boundaries..

Watch them hit the Talibans with sanctions that will cause enemies with and their brothers..

Remember, Iran..They are now in serious dispute with UAE and Saudi Arabia.

tensazangetsu20:

Walai. Igbo land will be Islamised first.

That's not true. . I guess you were joking.

macrodata:
Truth is, there are rules of engagement in war. You don't bring a nuke to a gun fight. The Taliban are like BH, guns, gun-trucks & ground to air missiles. If the US were to deploy full tech in war, it'd be a massacre. Also remember, these terrorists hides within civilian population.

He wants the American to do what Nigerian army would have done.massacre!

BritishNaija:


Very useless Army that are only interested about money and women

Just like Nigerian army!

Coldie:

If taliban come igbo land except fg go back them if not, they will regret their decision, not only would their propaganda not work just the fact that they are not igbos nothing them want tell us

But the FG supports Fulani herdsmen - who in my opinion are Islamic terrorists - who are ravaging lands in Enugu and Ebonyi slaughtering Igbos right on their lands. What is the difference?

RolexOfGeneva:

How is the south very poor. Akwa Ibom alone supplies over 1500 barrels of crude oil per day.
That's about 400 billion Naira per month at current oil price.
Stop typing what you don't know.

Point of correction,Akwa ibom produce 509000 b/d of crude oil

faste:
Point of correction,Akwa ibom produce 509000 b/d of crude oil

Thanks. It was an oversight

AldrichAmes:




North and South are divided by rivers. If the North gets overrun by Islamists, just blow up the bridges that connect the two regions and fortify the other side. Islamists can’t really do much unless they have CIA backing. And in every country they have overrun; they were backed by the CIA. A bunch of AK47s and RPGs carrying ragtag army on their own aren’t as vicious as most think. They only become vicious when they’re being used by a powerful external force.

The Biden administration is in bed with Buhari, so why do you think he cannot lend support to Islamists?

Those guys will take over the north and when they do what happens to the south.

If that happens, it would be better so each ethnic group can go their own separate ways and defend themselves. Each group can bring in whatever weapon they deem necessary in defense of their own territory and not be stifled by the current TERRORIST FULANI government of LIEGERIA.

tensazangetsu20:
I was watching a documentary today on CNN about the Talibans capture of a major city in Afghanistan. The first thing they did was to get all girls from age 12 and above for the commanders and various members to get married to and it got me thinking. The Taliban and the various terror groups in the north all share the same ideology. No amount of weapons or super intelligence can defeat this guys. I mean the USA poured in over 20 billion dollars in Afghanistan. Sent in high end weapons, trained the Afghan troops yet they still lost the war. 20 years gone, thousands of Americans dead and the war was lost.

If a whole America couldn't defeat the Taliban what is the fate of the Nigerian army in winning the boko haram war. They are even recruited into the same army and people in the south are just sitting down. Whether people like it or not. Those guys will take over the north and when they do what happens to the south. I mean people make a lot of noise on social media but we all know southern tribes aren't used to wars or warrior like in nature compared to the north that has known and fought all kinds of wars. Even if the country divides as people want it to. Will independent southern nations have the resources to fight the terror groups in the north. With Afghanistan under taliban control it will become a training and funding ground for all forms of terror group.

I have always predicted southern Nigeria to be like congo or Liberia in the future but with what's going on in the north it might be much worst than Afghanistan and Yemen put together.

Your write-up only exhumes PROUDNESS. You are proud of terrorism of your northern region.And do you mean that d north has fought more war than d south? For d record no region has fought more war or has more war experience than the Eastern region which is in the south.Dont confuse terrorism with war.

KillingIsFun:
They come for the heads of anyone who makes stupid suggestions. There's nothing invincible or special about Islamic terrorists. To suggest that they are is dumb beyond belief.

The only reason why the Taliban are easily erasing 20 years of American presence is because it is the people of Afghanistan themselves who are the Taliban.

In Nigeria, the situation is very different for so many reasons. The North isn't a monolith. The Middle Belt like Benue, Plateau, Taraba and Kogi will NEVER agree to join the core north as Jihadists. Things may look indifferent in the South, but that's because of the peculiarities of the Nigerian political system which makes politicians betray their constituencies for selfish reasons. Take away the Nigerian factor and ask Southeners to fight for their lives and freedom, and you'll have an entirely different story.

With which weapons? Do you know your ambassadors to Benin Republic and Cameroon? Do you know that Buhari has tested all his strategies at blocking borders? Has his sister at the UN? Lobbies western powers and think-tanks? Talking about the Middle Belt, how are the young males coping? Small retaliation they gave islamists in Jos, the Nigerian state has attacked them with weapons aiming to kill the young males. How are they fighting Fulani warlords in Benue? Taraba? Southern Kaduna? Who is fighting those Fulani warlords slaughtering Igbos in Enugu, Ebonyi and Imo? Who is fighting against same Islamic Fulani herdsmen in Delta, Ogun, Ekiti and Ondo?

Keep writing English. Las las, you would be offered Islam or death, you make your choice.

Kei144:


The OP doesn't know anything. Who are the greatest fighters in Nigeria? The greatest fighters are not northerners. The northerners are just lucky that the British government chose to give them arms advantage over other Nigerian groups. When it comes to fighting ability, the best should be Igbos and Binis.

Britain, a world power, gives northerners power over the south. When it comes to warfare, who would give same power to the south?

Powersurge:
Oga your story is shortlived. First of Russia got her ass whooped in Afghanistan.

Second of all, USA, thoroughly dealt with Taliban, removed them from government, installed new govt etc. The next phase now is to teach Afghans to fight their own war. Which is what US would do eventually.

Thirdly, America though not invincible is a master tactician. Withdrawal from Afghanistan and subsequently allowing terrorists taking over the country would be strategic.

First, it will allow the oppressed China's Ughur region, to have direct access to a terror nation. And you know the problems in the Urghur region in China.

Secondly, Taliban can easily seize Tajikistan and Uzbekistan which are at the backyard of Russia. Bringing terrorism into China-Russia mix would be a great tool for global dominance. Sacrificing Afghanistan to achieve that aim wouldn't be a difficult decision.

Knowing that America has over 50 years experience dealing with terrorists, they have moved into the realm of using terrorists to achieve their aims. Rather than completely wiping them out. Don't forget that at the height of Iran-US crisis, there were insinuations that America wanted to activate ISIS who is arch enemy of Iran.

If the global GDP is $80tr and your country alone controls $22tr out of it, you can do a lot.

It will be very difficult for terrorists to overun the south if we remove govt interference. Because for one, they are easily identifiable compared to southern population. Secondly, the south is much smaller and less mountainous. Thirdly, we have more resources to fight a prolonged warfare than them, amongst others.

I agreed with your last paragraph.

Government interference is the major obstacle to the elimination of Islamic extremists and terrorists in the South. The core Fulanis and some Hausas are like Taliban. The Core North believes in the ideology of ISWAP . Fulanization of West Africa and Islamization of Africa is an ideology supported by the Fulanis. You cannot separate this ideology from terrorism.

Fulanis will always attack in the midnight. In the middle belt and lately, Okeogun area of Oyo State, the communities know the operational base of these Fulanis and how they operate in daytime. Immediately the attacked community carried out counter offensive, the Fulani controlled Federal Government will claim they are killing innocent Fulanis. The Police will carry out arrest. The military can be sent to fish out the killers of the Fulanis or to protect the Fulani communities in the area. All these government interventions presently weaken the South.

If the North falls to ISWAP, Boko Haram and bandits (they are the same with different names ), the South would resist them. The major obstacle is South West where we have some groups and areas with the same cultural and religious outlook like that of the North. Also, Yoruba language is widely spoken fluently by many non Yorubas. They may use these areas to camouflage and penetrate, at the end, they would be flushed out.

The situation in Afghanistan is quite different from the situation in Nigeria. It is only similar to situation in Northern Nigeria. The ISWAP cannot attempt to takeover Southern Nigeria with strong Christian base. That is why I spent 13 months to protest and carry out enlightenment on the planned implementation of Sharia in Four States in South West by Supreme Council for Sharia in Nigeria before the idea was dropped .

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if terrorists from the north tries to invade the south, they'll be met with heavy resistance. Hehe, don't think southerners are weak oo else e go clear for your eye that time.

Typical Nigerian braggadocio! Fulani warlords are killing people in Southern Nigeria across farms and highways, how many have you fought to standstill?

If south can form alliances with the western nations and borrow technological equipments from them, then it should be a clean and easy victory. Like I really can't see myself sleeping at home when I know that there are weapons available and I could go out there and make a difference in our favor

No be only form alliances na Math formula. Western countries are in bed with the Buhari's administration, know this and have peace. Did you not read that Britain trained SARS personnel? Prior to the 2015 election, Buhari met Biden, then VP to Obama. Same Biden is now the US president. That is who you chanted "south form alliances with western nations?"

The boarders of Southern Nigeria will all be well protected and defended. I assure you

Same borders which are manned by Fulanis or the Immigration service which is headed by a Fulani or the telecoms/data providers regulatory agency which is headed by a Fulani or neighbouring countries whose ambassadors are Fulanis?

Y'all underestimating marauding Fulanis are jokers!

Jaqenhghar:

You can't build a street na wall you want build. With which money if I may ask.

I agree with you, that the trajectory of this country is one where the Bokoharam/ISIS gain enough momentum where they can over power the nigerian Army or start power Sharing. Anyone who is not already understanding/accepting the realism of this is not a deep thinker.

Shekau has always been clear, Bokoharam's mission is to erase western education and bring ALL of nigeria under islamic Rule, This is their long term Goal and mission.

The group has gone very far from being splinter cells of a terror group to a Juggernaut that now controls large swats of territory in many . northern states, in partnership with ISIS which already is a sort of a Quasi government in Libya, Iraq and somalia. In other words its not wrong to say that Bokoharam is Backed by governments - People with infinite sources of money from Oil and taxes imposed on people living in the territories they currently control.

For you to understand the mindset of a typical bokoharam supporter, You have to understand that the Bokoharam fighters are fighting for is what right according to the Quran, they believe that by converting you to Islam they are helping you and your children unborn to save their souls to make it to the Kingdom of God. And they believe they are also doing this to Gain Favor in the Eyes of God. How can you stop a people with this type of resolve.

Any true muslim knows and believes that what Bokoharam is fighting for is right by the words of Allah,(although, they may not like How Bokoharam is going about trying to Achieve thier Agenda).

So how can Bokoharam fighter defeat the nigerian Military and overwhelm the north? Its happening before our eyes.

* The nigerian Military already is currently rehabilitating BH fighters and putting them in the military, if you remember that this is an Ideology, then you can understand that a Bokoharam fighter can never change.
* The Nigerian Military is Primarily based off the North of Nigeria. Armory, Training facilities, Planes, Jet fighters all domiciled in the north.
* There are more Muslims as top commanders and as foot soldiers in all of the three nigerian Military and even police. That explains the Arabic written words on the nigerian Army's Emblem, if truly Nigeria was a secular country or one that respects the existence of the christian populace, those words in Arabic wouldnt be there)

So all you need a Military Chief of staff that shares the same ideals as bokoharam and is balsy enough to make a move, and boom, Non muslim top members of the military would be arrested, others would flee the country, foot soldiers who are unwilling to comply would be killed or also arrested and there you have it, the nigerian military machine is in the hands of Bokoharam, then they would start taking cities as you see the taliban do, those who accept islam would be spared, ISIS did the same in iraq and syria in 2015 or so i guess. That being the case, no southern state, stands a fighting chance, People who accept islam might be offered large benefits and believe it or not, that would cause alot of communities to convert, the same way a lot communities were made to renounce their ethnicity during the Biafran war.

If you think its impossible to have a radicalized muslim in a top military position, you should remember your current minister of communication who has professed his love for the ways of Bokoharam(Alqeada), If you can have that as an aid to the president, then anything is possible.

The real warriors for ur info are the Southerners.. especially biafrans who fought the civil war or perhaps i will say a genocidal war singlehandedly while the north were given great support from other countries..if they can legalized guns..then all dz slow motion referandum or self determination as biafra or oduduwa won't be an issue anymore!

tensazangetsu20:
I was watching a documentary today on CNN about the Talibans capture of a major city in Afghanistan. The first thing they did was to get all girls from age 12 and above for the commanders and various members to get married to and it got me thinking. The Taliban and the various terror groups in the north all share the same ideology. No amount of weapons or super intelligence can defeat this guys. I mean the USA poured in over 20 billion dollars in Afghanistan. Sent in high end weapons, trained the Afghan troops yet they still lost the war. 20 years gone, thousands of Americans dead and the war was lost.

If a whole America couldn't defeat the Taliban what is the fate of the Nigerian army in winning the boko haram war. They are even recruited into the same army and people in the south are just sitting down. Whether people like it or not. Those guys will take over the north and when they do what happens to the south. I mean people make a lot of noise on social media but we all know southern tribes aren't used to wars or warrior like in nature compared to the north that has known and fought all kinds of wars. Even if the country divides as people want it to. Will independent southern nations have the resources to fight the terror groups in the north. With Afghanistan under taliban control it will become a training and funding ground for all forms of terror group.

I have always predicted southern Nigeria to be like congo or Liberia in the future but with what's going on in the north it might be much worst than Afghanistan and Yemen put together.

Gerrard59:


With which weapons? Do you know your ambassadors to Benin Republic and Cameroon? Do you know that Buhari has tested all his strategies at blocking borders? Has his sister at the UN? Lobbies western powers and think-tanks? Talking about the Middle Belt, how are the young males coping? Small retaliation they gave islamists in Jos, the Nigerian state has attacked them with weapons aiming to kill the young males. How are they fighting Fulani warlords in Benue? Taraba? Southern Kaduna? Who is fighting those Fulani warlords slaughtering Igbos in Enugu, Ebonyi and Imo? Who is fighting against same Islamic Fulani herdsmen in Delta, Ogun, Ekiti and Ondo?

Keep writing English. Las las, you would be offered Islam or death, you make your choice.

These things you wrote here don't work that way. I can see you are an IBO man from few words I picked in your posting. Amina at the U.N. does not control any influence on the decision taken by the world powers. Blocking of borders and sending Buratai to Benin Republic have nothing to do with the issue under discussion. I wouldn't want to mention the Ambassador sent to Cameroon. They have no meaning under emergency situation.

Accra to Lagos is shorter than Lagos to Abuja. Lagos to Abidjan (Ivory Coast ) is shorter than Lagos to Kano. Islamic terrorism can only thrive where they have legal ground, population and familiar terrain. Whatever happens here automatically affects nations from Benin Republic up to Liberia. Presently, it is the FG intervention which hide under Nigeria sovereignty to protect the Fulanis that is making you to think that way. Under emergency situations, the military, Intelligence Agencies, Police and other paramilitary would be divided along ethnic lines. I stop here.

tensazangetsu20:

Do you think the south has the resources to build a wall. The south is also very poor too.

BAN-KAI

I agree with you, that the trajectory of this country is one where the Bokoharam/ISIS gain enough momentum where they can over power the nigerian Army or start power Sharing. Anyone who is not already understanding/accepting the realism of this is not a deep thinker.

Shekau has always been clear, Bokoharam's mission is to erase western education and bring ALL of nigeria under islamic Rule, This is their long term Goal and mission.

The group has gone very far from being splinter cells of a terror group to a Juggernaut that now controls large swats of territory in many . northern states, in partnership with ISIS which already is a sort of a Quasi government in Libya, Iraq and somalia. In other words its not wrong to say that Bokoharam is Backed by governments - People with infinite sources of money from Oil and taxes imposed on people living in the territories they currently control.

For you to understand the mindset of a typical bokoharam supporter, You have to understand that the Bokoharam fighters are fighting for what is right according to the Quran, they believe that by converting you to Islam they are helping you and your children unborn to save their souls to make it to the Kingdom of God. And they believe they are also doing this to Gain Favor in the Eyes of God. How can you stop a people with this type of resolve.

Any true muslim knows and believes that what Bokoharam is fighting for is right by the words of Allah,(although, they may not like How Bokoharam is going about trying to Achieve thier Agenda).

So how can Bokoharam fighters defeat the nigerian Military and overwhelm the north? Its happening before our eyes.

* The nigerian Military already is currently rehabilitating BH fighters and putting them in the military, if you remember that this is an Ideology, then you can understand that a Bokoharam fighter can never change.
* The Nigerian Military is Primarily based off the North of Nigeria. Armory, Training facilities, Planes, Jet fighters all domiciled in the north.
* There are more Muslims as top commanders and as foot soldiers in all of the three nigerian Military and even police. That explains the Arabic written words on the nigerian Army's Emblem, if truly Nigeria was a secular country or one that respects the existence of the christian populace, those words in Arabic wouldnt be there)

So all you need is a Military Chief of staff that shares the same ideals as bokoharam and is balsy enough to make a move, and boom, Non muslim top members of the military would be arrested, others would flee the country, foot soldiers who are unwilling to comply would be killed or also arrested and there you have it, the nigerian military machine is in the hands of Bokoharam, then they would start taking cities as you saw the taliban doing, those who accept islam would be spared, ISIS did the same in iraq and syria in 2015 or so i guess. That being the case, no southern state, stands a fighting chance, People who accept islam might be offered large benefits and believe it or not, that would cause alot of communities to convert, the same way a lot communities were made to renounce their ethnicity during the Biafran war. They could also start using political undertones to set the stone for a soft landing, pushing words like Afterall christianity and Islam are the same or its the only way for the party to win elections because the muslims are the only ones willing to vote. And thesame type of people you see defending bad politicians here on nairaland because of tribe and political party will be here to spin it and flip it so it doesnt come off as bad as its suppose to sound...with hundreds of likes on their post to make you believe that a lot of people are in support of the ideology.

Also, It may not be the all out aggressive way that you are thinking, it might be sort of systematic. They may look for a soft landing initially by saying something like after going through census, its clear that the muslim population of nigeria is now more than 60% and that they have declare that nigeria is now a muslim state just like malaysia, churches would now need special permissions to function. Then, slowly, slowly eat into every fabric of your daily life, until it becomes illegal to be anything but a "true practising Muslim", it was done in Iran in the 1940s.

If you think its impossible to have a radicalized muslim in a top military position, you should remember your current minister of communication who has professed his love for the ways of Bokoharam(Alqeada), If you can have that as an aid to the president, then anything is possible.

Gerrard59:




Typical Nigerian braggadocio! Fulani warlords are killing people in Southern Nigeria across farms and highways, how many have you fought to standstill?

If south can form alliances with the western nations and borrow technological equipments from them, then it should be a clean and easy victory. Like I really can't see myself sleeping at home when I know that there are weapons available and I could go out there and make a difference in our favor

No be only form alliances na Math formula. Western countries are in bed with the Buhari's administration, know this and have peace. Did you not read that Britain trained SARS personnel? Prior to the 2015 election, Buhari met Biden, then VP to Obama. Same Biden is now the US president. That is who you chanted "south form alliances with western nations?"



Same borders which are manned by Fulanis or the Immigration service which is headed by a Fulani or the telecoms/data providers regulatory agency which is headed by a Fulani or neighbouring countries whose ambassadors are Fulanis?

Y'all underestimating marauding Fulanis are jokers!

Shut up and go and sit down, monkey. The situation would be different then, since there'll be no govt. The only reason southerners are not launching attacks on Fulani terrorists is because we still have a govt and a military.
Also, the govt are run by the north, and it's obvious they're gonna proscribe you a terrorists like they did to IPOB if you take judgment into your hand.

If north falls, it means abuja would be under terrorist control. There'll be no military or govt. We can now deal with any intruder as we please

Mangekyo:
Op you have nothing to worry about, worry about your north instead. I swear with your mother, if terrorists from the north tries to invade the south, they'll be met with heavy resistance. Hehe, don't think southerners are weak oo else e go clear for your eye that time.
If south can form alliances with the western nations and borrow technological equipments from them, then it should be a clean and easy victory. Like I really can't see myself sleeping at home when I know that there are weapons available and I could go out there and make a difference in our favor. The boarders of Southern Nigeria will all be well protected and defended. I assure you

This post assumes they will invade the south spontaneously. I doubt they will until they consolidate they grip on the south well enough. Southerners are not that united.

Mangekyo:


If north falls, it means abuja would be under terrorist control. There'll be no military or govt. We can now deal with any intruder as we please

You have an idea of what would happen. Before it get to that level, the Military, Police and Intelligence Agencies would have been divided along ethnic lines. At that point, anything can happen. No Fulani can survive or remain in the forest in the South because they would be the number one suspect.

Coldie:
Igbo land is the last region that can ever fall to terrorists especially the ones that has anything to do with Islam.

Igbo land is 99% christians, unlike other regions with significant amount of Muslims

History has it that Ebira people used to be more igboic than they are now. They were conquered. The TIVs and other Benue clans are responsible for the reason why Usman dan Fodio couldnt make it down south to igboland.

Modern Warfare is won by weaponry and training not by guts, or numbers. Just saying the igbo people will stop a northern invasion is unrealistic, how they suppose to fight when as a people they are disarmed in Nigeria. As supposed to stop the invasion with sticks and stones.

Read my previous post to understand my point. That Islamic future that the OP is describing will not just happen as a surprise it will slowly build up, and and rudiments to make that future easy is already in place in nigeria. I think it will happen. Nigeria will first of be declared an islamic country.

South will follow suit, terrorism is like a cankerworm, it eats everything on its way!

tensazangetsu20:

I don't believe the terrain shit. Russia was there for over 20 years and studied the terrain and failed. The USA was there for over 20 years studied the terrain and failed. Even If the terrain was horrible for foot soldiers what about the USA air force and it's various drones.

The USA only lost in making Afghanistan a western democracy..
The USA went fishing for Al Qaeda commanders that the Taliban govt. 20years ago refused to give up...that is why Afghanistan was invaded.. and we all know that no terrorist will be foolish enough to carry out an attack on the US.
Majority of afghans support the Taliban..

Bokoharam will only end the day northerners become tired of bokoharam, otherwise no govt on earth can eradicate bh..

The south and pockets of middle belts will defend it self against a fully islamized northern Nigeria, it will be a piece of cake and full blown war, which will easily be won..

It will be a replica of North and South Korea.

South will be alright

naija4life247:
Afghanistan shares border with Russia, yet Taliban no dey pass their boundary enter Russia because they know it will take Russia few hours to wipe out Taliban and join Afghanistan to Russia forever.

So, of Book Haram takes over the Northern land of sorrow, tears and blood and fully establishes its government of killing and maiming, Lower Niger will protect and secure its boundaries

Your analogy is not well thought in my opinion.
Are you comparing Southern Nigeria with Russia?
Obviously, the Talibans are far too weak to take their madness to Russia.
Do you think we in the South are strong enough to deter Boko Haram from bringing their madness?

shegzhkn:


compute the percentage of the folks running aways over all citizen of the country, then we can start from there.

Those that remain have no were else to run to, and decided to stay, not because they are in love or in support of the bloody Talibans as you would want people to believe. Let the Russians and other countries that shares borders with Afghanistan open up their borders to admit them and let count the percentage of the said Citizens that would remain.

One can literarily feels the hopelessness and despair among the Afghans as you see them clinging to planes about to take off.