MaxInDHouse:


No wahala, go and convince OkCornel that you're not behind multiple accounts!

Like I taught you right from the first time learn how to be civil abuse won't win the discussion grow up and learn

You believe okcornel why don't you equally believe him when he says Jesus is not Angel

Lol

Bishopkingsley:

Like I taught you right from the first time learn how to be civil abuse won't win the discussion grow up and learn
You believe okcornel why don't you equally believe him when he says Jesus is not Angel
Lol

I didn't believe him. Remember i exposed you by telling him that you're the same person behind the multiple accounts commenting on your thread!
So it's OkCornel that believe what i said but before he did, he first set a bait that you can't escape by continuing playing along as if he didn't believe me until he got all the EVIDENCES he needed to confirm what i told him!

MaxInDHouse:

I didn't believe him. Remember i exposed you by telling him that you're the same person behind the multiple accounts commenting on your thread!
So it's OkCornel that believe what i said but before he did, he first set a bait that you can't escape by continuing playing along as if he didn't believe me until he got all the EVIDENCES he needed to confirm what i told him!

Did you believe okcornel when he said Jesus is not Angel

Bishopkingsley:

Did you believe okcornel when he said Jesus is not Angel

You're not intelligent at all, you're running on a very low IQ!

I just corrected you now that it's him that beleive me not the other way around yet you still come back to ask me if i beleive him.
Who first believed who, i or him?

MaxInDHouse:




I just corrected you that it's him that beleive me not the other way around yet you still come back to ask me if i beleive him.
Who first believed who, i or him?

So if i call okcornel he will agree with you that he believes your Jesus Michael doctrine

MaxInDHouse:


That's exactly why Boko Haram are killing people up and down!
You're not supposed to tell people saying so and so person shouldn't use the Bible, that's my point. You can say "this or that person is wrong" then substantiate with reasoning but outrightly saying someone is not supposed to use the Bible is tantamount to standing in God's position!

MaxInDHouse... did you really read that post. Or you are here to simply just pick on a post (without reading through) and then throw attacks?

Is it not better they stop using the Bible to do evil

Is this statement the same as "is it not better to use the bible?"

You mustn't be a christian, any sane person, will agree that it is not right to use the bible (or any supposed holy book for that matter), to do evil.
What you should attack or defend is that you are not using the bible to do evil. Rather, you are attacking a straw man

Bishopkingsley:

So if i call okcornel he will agree with you that he believes your Jesus Michael doctrine

Chai see low IQ for goodness sake!

Guy, one thing first leads to another, even Jesus himself never thought people will believe him at a go. They need time to assimilate each lesson they're learning from him before moving to another. They were listening not to his words only but diligently reading his thoughts and actions, before coming to the conclusion that he is the Christ!
OkCornel knew Maximus has something he could learn from so learning takes a gradual process Sir!

eomajeh:

MaxInDHouse... did you really read that post. Or you are here to simply just pick on a post (without reading through) and then throw attacks?
Is this statement the same as "is it not better to use the bible?"
You mustn't be a christian, any sane person, will agree that it is not right to use the bible (or any supposed holy book for that matter), to do evil.
What you should attack or defend is that you are not using the bible to do evil. Rather, you are attacking a straw man

You missed my point!
Whatever anyone is using the Bible to teach is no man's business unless they're KILLING or HURTING people.
Saying someone or a group is using the Bible to do evil is tantamount to saying "you are using God's name wrongly" that's what Boko Haram are fighting for!
The Bible is God's property not any man's so if you know anything that's causing havoc in the society, it's good to say it but saying someone or a group is using God's word (not your own word) to do evil which you can't point to it's negative effect within the society is wrong Sir!

Only the heavens can judge that, otherwise you are saying the Boko Haram are right for attacking people simply because they feel such people are using God's word to do evil (not affecting the society) until their own incessant killings became a cause for concern!

MaxInDHouse:


Chai see low IQ for goodness sake!

Guy, one thing first leads to another, even Jesus himself never thought people will believe him at a go. They need time to assimilate each lesson they're learning from him before moving to another. They were listening not to his words only but diligently reading his thoughts and actions, before coming to the conclusion that he is the Christ!
OkCornel knew Maximus has something he could learn from so learning takes a gradual process Sir!

You're not intelligent at all, you're running on a very low IQ!

Chai see low IQ for goodness sake!

You know I don't partake in abuse so when you are ready to practice maturity I will know

Bishopkingsley:

You're not intelligent at all, you're running on a very low IQ!
Chai see low IQ for goodness sake!
You know I don't partake in abuse so when you are ready to practice maturity I will know

When you're running up and down my thread saying stupid things and insulting me you don't think that's bad, shey?
Just prove that you're intelligent by speaking like someone who thinks before talking.
OkCornel already knew he can learn from me so he's gradually grabbing things one after the other!

MaxInDHouse:

Saying someone or a group is using the Bible to do evil is tantamount to saying "you are using God's name wrongly" that's what Boko Haram are fighting for!

Your reasoning eh! e tie wrapper

don't go through this mental gymnastics to defend wetin no follow. It is not right to use the bible or any other holy book to perpetrate evil. That is a VALID statement. You can then proceed with arguing that JWs do not use the bible to perpetrate evil.

It is your efforts to poke holes in that valid statement that is tantamount to saying Boko Harams are right. This is because the Boko Haram use verses in their holy book as support for their activities.
Remember, the statement is not "do not use the bible (or any other supposed holy book)". It is "do not use the bible (or any other supposed holy book) to do evil".

MaxInDHouse:

Whatever anyone is using the Bible to teach is no man's business unless they're KILLING or HURTING people.

You are right on this. However:
KILLING people: one can point to the number of persons that have actually died because of the JW's radical medical directives (from d days of outlawing organ transplant and vaccinations to these days of outlawing blood transfusion).
HURTING people: one can point to the number of families that have been strained and torn apart because of the JWs family invasive directives (from the days of outlawing pre-intimacy and MouthAction between husband and wives, to these days of having forcing members to completely shun disfellowshipped ones and see them as dead)

Yes, you'll be quick to fling out verses in the bible to support these KILLING AND HURTING of people. Yet you'll wonder why someone ask if it is proper to continue using the bible to do evil.

eomajeh:


Your reasoning eh! e tie wrapper

don't go through this mental gymnastics to defend wetin no follow. It is not right to use the bible or any other holy book to perpetrate evil. That is a VALID statement. You can then proceed with arguing that JWs do not use the bible to perpetrate evil.

It is your efforts to poke holes in that valid statement that is tantamount to saying Boko Harams are right. This is because the Boko Haram use verses in their holy book as support for their activities.
Remember, the statement is not "do not use the bible (or any other supposed holy book)". It is "do not use the bible (or any other supposed holy book) to do evil".

Evil is what the society agreed upon as EVIL.
Each religion can later determine what they can term as evil on their own but you can't say someone or a group is evil as long as they're operating within the bounds of the laws in the human society!
So i disagree with you on this and i repeat that Boko Haram are killing people up and down because they feel you people are evil based on their own Interpretation of God's word not what the society at large agreed upon as EVIL!

You are right on this. However:
KILLING people: one can point to the number of persons that have actually died because of the JW's radical medical directives (from d days of outlawing organ transplant and vaccinations to these days of outlawing blood transfusion).
HURTING people: one can point to the number of families that have been strained and torn apart because of the JWs family invasive directives (from the days of outlawing pre-intimacy and MouthAction between husband and wives, to these days of having forcing members to completely shun disfellowshipped ones and see them as dead) Yes, you'll be quick to fling out verses in the bible to support these KILLING AND HURTING of people. Yet you'll wonder why someone ask if it is proper to continue using the bible to do evil.

The rules within a group is no EVIL to anyone outside the GROUP so whatever rules JWs are upholding within is not the business of anyone outside the GROUP as long as adherents aren't forced to abide by the rules!
Secondly if you're now talking about family breakups then you have to blame our Master, Lord and King (Jesus Christ) these are his own words:

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
For I am come to set a man at variance, against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household., He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake, shall find it" Matthew 10:34-39

Please blame this man for the breakups in the families as a result of FAITH, people who love him have a wonderful possession that's uncommon! 2Thessalonians 3:2

Janosky:


Genesis14:19,22, how did JEHOVAH possess heaven and earth?
Proverbs 8:22-30, 1 Corinthians1:24,Jesus Christ is "the Wisdom" personified as 'Craftsman' working for JEHOVAH his Father.
Bros,you go write your Bible to suit your Trinitarian taste

Does possession mean creation?
Did you pass O Level English?

MightySparrow:

Does possession mean creation?
Did you pass O Level English?

~Possess
~Create
~Make
~Own
~Bought
All indicates that someone got something.
So it's illogical and unreasonable to conclude that someone possessed himself nah!

MaxInDHouse:


Evil is what the society agreed upon as EVIL.
Each religion can later determine what they can term as evil on their own but you can't say someone or a group is evil as long as they're operating within the bounds of the laws in the human society!

Oga, i no get your power. I only called your attention to the full statement - "it is not right to use the bible to do evil". You initially picked only the first part (it is not right to use the bible); and you were beating a straw man (even saying why someone will say JWs should not use the bible)
However you choose to argue. continue. It does not change the fact that it is not right to use the bible or any other holy book to do evil. Whether it is the JWs, catholics, other christian groups, muslims, or other non-christian religious group, it is not right to use some holy verses to do evil.

MaxInDHouse:


So i disagree with you on this and i repeat that Boko Haram are killing people up and down because they feel you people are evil based on their own Interpretation of God's word not what the society at large agreed upon as EVIL!

Honestly, sometimes i struggle to follow you. Who's disputing this with you? Are the activities of the Boko Haram guys not widely condemned as evil.
The Boko Haram guys read verses in their holy book, and based on their unique interpretation of these verses they certain take action. These action causes the death and displacement of many so the society see these actions as evil.

The JWs read certain verses in their holy book, and based on their unique interpretations of these verses they take certain actions. These actions cause death and tearing apart of families, so some see these actions as evil.

MaxInDHouse:

The rules within a group is no EVIL to anyone outside the GROUP so whatever rules JWs are upholding within is not the business of anyone outside the GROUP as long as adherents aren't forced to abide by the rules!

Read about the Jonestown massacre of 1978 and you will understand why sometimes the activities of a religious organizations is the business of those outside the group. Over 900 deaths could have been avoided that fateful day (Nov 18, 1978).

MaxInDHouse:

Secondly if you're now talking about family breakups then you have to blame our Master, Lord and King (Jesus Christ) these are his own words:

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
For I am come to set a man at variance, against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household., He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake, shall find it" Matthew 10:34-39

Please blame this man for the breakups in the families as a result of FAITH, people who love him have a wonderful possession that's uncommon! 2Thessalonians 3:2

I said it earlier that you'll attempt to fling out verses to support the KILLINGS and HURTING of people.
Oga, it is not the verses that are the problem, but your unique interpretations of those verses.

For example: no bible portion says "dont subscribe to a blood transfusion". However, the Jws uniquely interpret som verses to outlaw blood transfusion. Remember, it was the same way they uniquely interpret verses to outlaw vaccination and organ transplant.

If anyone interprets verses in supposed holy books to foster tearing apart family, discourage medical care, etc that person is perpetrating evil.

JEHOVAH WICKEDNESS

eomajeh:

Oga, i no get your power. I only called your attention to the full statement - "it is not right to use the bible to do evil". You initially picked only the first part (it is not right to use the bible); and you were beating a straw man (even saying why someone will say JWs should not use the bible)

God's word never gave anyone the right to judge others over beliefs, unless the person been judged subscribes to the same line of thought with you. So based on your agreement the church has the right to judge their own members that goes against stipulated rules! 1Corinthians 5:9-13

However you choose to argue. continue. It does not change the fact that it is not right to use the bible or any other holy book to do evil. Whether it is the JWs, catholics, other christian groups, muslims, or other non-christian religious group, it is not right to use some holy verses to do evil.

You're the one arguing here!
The human society in general has what we all agreed upon as EVIL but each religion has it's own rules. For instance it's a crime (evil) in Islam if a man is found with alcohoic beverage in the mosque but the society at large never agreed on such rules. So when you say someone used the Bible to commit EVIL then it must be something WRITTEN in the constitution that's guiding our society. That's my point!

Honestly, sometimes i struggle to follow you. Who's disputing this with you? Are the activities of the Boko Haram guys not widely condemned as evil.
The Boko Haram guys read verses in their holy book, and based on their unique interpretation of these verses they certain take action. These action causes the death and displacement of many so the society see these actions as evil.

Their beleive is that they don't need to consult the societal laws before taking the right actions based on their perspective of what God says. That's exactly what the other man is doing against JWs, instigating people to view a nonviolent group as EVIL when they've not gone against the laws of the land!
Meanwhile the verse Boko Haram often reads and misinterpreted before attacking innocent people are found in the Bible not the Qur'an!

The JWs read certain verses in their holy book, and based on their unique interpretations of these verses they take certain actions. These actions cause death and tearing apart of families, so some see these actions as evil.

You said this before but i overlooked it. Now let's talk like intellectuals!
A disagreement which leads to the breakup of families, marriages, social clubs or religion as a result of the action taken by a member is never a crime under the law of any human society!
So when Jesus said families will breakup everyone knows that it's a normal occurrence everywhere. Go and ask health professionals in any society, they'll tell you that you're entitled to the type of treatment you want so far it has to do with your own life or that of your relation who made you his or her next of kin. So JWs has been right all along, that is under the law!

Read about the Jonestown massacre of 1978 and you will understand why sometimes the activities of a religious organizations is the business of those outside the group. Over 900 deaths could have been avoided that fateful day (Nov 18, 1978).

When people choose to die for their faith it's not against the constitution of any society. What they mustn't do is Killing people who are no members of their religion or Faith!

I said it earlier that you'll attempt to fling out verses to support the KILLINGS and HURTING of people.
Oga, it is not the verses that are the problem, but your unique interpretations of those verses.

Any Interpretation that doesn't force none adherents into doing something they never wanted is OK under the human constitution!

For example: no bible portion says "dont subscribe to a blood transfusion". However, the Jws uniquely interpret som verses to outlaw blood transfusion. Remember, it was the same way they uniquely interpret verses to outlaw vaccination and organ transplant.

You can't call someone EVIL when he/she never forced his or her beliefs on you!
The Catholics travelled around the world and started Killing people all in the name of Jesus Christ, did Jesus send them on such erand! NO! So whatever anyone beliefs so far he/she doesn't force it on others is never a crime (EVIL) according to the laws guiding the human society!

If anyone interprets verses in supposed holy books to foster tearing apart family, discourage medical care, etc that person is perpetrating evil.

Says you Sir not the general laws agreed upon by the human society!
Galatians 5:23

Truvelisback:
JEHOVAH WICKEDNESS

The exact label some people often give those that disagree with them on reasoning.
No wonder the other guy said a group is EVIL simply because they disagreed with his beliefs!

MaxInDHouse:


~Possess
~Create
~Make
~Own
~Bought
All indicates that someone got something.
So it's illogical and unreasonable to conclude that someone possessed himself nah!

oh duh, not very bright false jw mad max

possess and own doesn't necessarily indicate
that someone got something

God always possessed wisdom


For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:

johnw47:

oh duh, not very bright false jw mad max
possess and own doesn't necessarily indicate
that someone got something

And equally it doesn't necessarily mean it's not gotten or CREATED!

God always possessed wisdom
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:

So if God always possess wisdom then it means WISDOM is not what is talking about the beginning of creation but a real person!

Thank you John!

MaxInDHouse:

And equally it doesn't necessarily mean it's not gotten or CREATED!

twister false jw mad max
you said:
"Possess" "Own" indicates that someone got something

you was wrong yet again, and being one of satans mob u cannot admit it:

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

MaxInDHouse:
So if God always possess wisdom then it means WISDOM is not what is talking about the beginning of creation but a real person!

Thank you John!

unbelievable dumness

know nothing false jw mad max

Jesus is the wisdom of God who created all that is created

look them up most duh one

MaxInDHouse:


~Possess
~Create
~Make
~Own
~Bought
All indicates that someone got something.
So it's illogical and unreasonable to conclude that someone possessed himself nah!

So God created wisdom?


Jesus is also said to be 'power' of God, did He create power also?
What did He use to create wisdom and power?

Any one who says God created wisdom that means God did not have wisdom before he created it

Which does not make any sense

So the truth is God is wisdom and if Jesus is the wisdom of God that means Jesus was not created

It as simple as abcd.........

Bishopkingsley:
Any one who says God created wisdom that means God did not have wisdom before he created it

Which does not make any sense

So the truth is God is wisdom and if Jesus is the wisdom of God that means Jesus was not created

It as simple as abcd.........

I agree with you totally.

MightySparrow:

So God created wisdom?
Jesus is also said to be 'power' of God, did He create power also?
What did He use to create wisdom and power?

Jesus is also the Lion of the tribe of Judah.
All these are descriptions of what Jesus will prove to be by THOUGHT, WORD and ACTION in the midst of humans.
Solomon was the Wisest human but Jesus is greater than Solomon in WISDOM {Matthew 12:42} that's the import of Proverbs 8:22. So Jesus is personified as WISDOM speaking there!

1 Corinthians 1:24 ►

New International Version
but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.

New Living Translation
But to those called by God to salvation, both Jews and Gentiles, Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God.

English Standard Version
but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.

Berean Study Bible
but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.

Berean Literal Bible
but those called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.



Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.


God almighty is saying through Paul that his wisdom is Jesus

Twist it and argue that Jesus was created to your own down fall

Bishopkingsley:
1 Corinthians 1:24 ►
New International Version
but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
New Living Translation
But to those called by God to salvation, both Jews and Gentiles, Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God.
English Standard Version
but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
Berean Study Bible
but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
Berean Literal Bible
but those called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
God almighty is saying through Paul that his wisdom is Jesus
Twist it and argue that Jesus was created to your own down fall

You don't need to be bitter about this!

If your Jesus is REAL, where are it's WORKS?
James 2:18-26

MaxInDHouse:


You don't need to be bitter about this!

If your Jesus is REAL, where are it's WORKS?
James 2:18-26

Your members cannot reach my church population in one billion years

Bishopkingsley:

Your members cannot reach my church population in one billion years

Of course Jesus' disciples are few but fully competent and completely equipped believers not some faithless crowd! Matthew 7:13-14

MaxInDHouse:


Of course Jesus' disciples are few but fully competent and completely equipped believers not some faithless crowd! Matthew 7:13-14

So you know this already yet you are posting pictures up and down as if you people have more membership lol

The pictures is not about population but the WORK Archangel Michael (Jesus Christ) is doing in our midst!

Bishopkingsley:

So you know this already yet you are posting pictures up and down as if you people have more membership lol

MaxInDHouse:
The pictures is not about population but the WORK Archangel Michael (Jesus Christ) is doing in our midst!

Even Satan cult still has more followers

So new members is not a sign of God working in your group

Only one sign is in the Bible and the true followers of Jesus can Cast out Devils and speak in tongues