Tdotbluejays:

And when you graduate, you will be paying an handsome tax back to the country. That's how a good country works. A good country invests in future tax payers and reaps the rewards a few years later.

You nailed it Buddy. Wait till these penny pinchers starts calling Timi a Socialist.

AmazonTopaz:
Russia,China and Pakistan still have their embassies running smoothly in Kabul.Their embassies are being guarded by the Taliban

Russia were rumoured to put bounties on American soldiers,didn't trump release some imprisoned Taliban fighters.


I don't like conspiracy theories but how was the Taliban able to swiftly move in like this were they helped?was there a sellout or sabotage that American intel couldn't get or something....
Hmmm

There will be more exposures in the coming weeks.

MOSCOW (AP) — The Russian embassy in Kabul alleged Monday that Afghan President Ashraf Ghani has fled from Kabul with four cars and a helicopter full of cash, Russia’s state news agency RIA Novosti reported.

The report quoted embassy spokesman Nikita Ishchenko as saying that “the collapse of the regime ... is most eloquently characterized by how Ghani escaped from Afghanistan: four cars were filled with money, they tried to shove another part of the money into a helicopter, but not everything fit. And some of the money was left lying on the tarmac.”

Asked by The Associated Press about how he knew the details of Ghani's departure, Ishchenko said “well, we are working here,” without offering any more details. The AP couldn’t independently verify his claims.

Ghani left Kabul on Sunday as the Taliban swept into the Afghan capital. Media reports suggested that the president went to the neighboring Tajikistan or Uzbekistan, but there was no official confirmation of his whereabouts.

Kremlin envoy on Afghanistan Zamir Kabulov on Monday described Ghani’s flight from Kabul as “disgraceful,” adding that Ghani “deserves to be brought to justice and held accountable by the Afghan people.”

Russia's ambassador to Afghanistan Dmitry Zhirnov told the Ekho Moskvy radio station that, judging by the first 24 hours of the Taliban's control of the Afghan capital, “right now the situation in Kabul is better than it was under Ashraf Ghani.” “Under the terrorist Taliban it's better than under Ghani,” Zhirnov said.

Moscow's criticism of Ghani, whose government had the support of Washington, comes at a time of heightened tensions between Russia and the United States.

Moscow fought a 10-year war in Afghanistan that ended with Soviet troops’ withdrawal in 1989 and has made a diplomatic comeback as a mediator, reaching out to feuding Afghan factions as it has jockeyed with the U.S. for influence in the country.

It has hosted several rounds of talks on Afghanistan, most recently in March, that involved the Taliban — even though Russia has labeled them a terrorist organization.

Tdotbluejays:

And when you graduate, you will be paying an handsome tax back to the country. That's how a good country works. A good country invests in future tax payers and reaps the rewards a few years later.

You think right mate

armyofone:


Right and the same thing is bound to happen no matter when ( prez fleeing and Talibans taking over).

It is their country and in their hands now - they should either run it well or continue to destroy it and their people.

God bless America
God bless our Troops!
SemperFi

Amen... God bless America

basilico:


This was the agreement.


The February 29, 2020 peace
agreement struck by the Trump
administration and the Taliban
contained four parts:
1. "Guarantees and enforcement
mechanisms" to prevent Afghanistan
from being used as a terrorist base
from which to launch attacks on the
U.S. and it allies.
2. "Guarantees, enforcement
mechanisms, and announcement of a
timeline for the withdrawal of all
foreign forces from Afghanistan."
3. After the first two conditions were
met, The Taliban would start intra-
Afghan negotiations with the Afghan
government, which took place in Doha,
Qatar.
4. A permanent and comprehensive
ceasefire would be an item on the
agenda of the intra-Afghan dialogue
and negotiations.
"The four parts above are interrelated
and each will be implemented in
accordance with its own agreed
timeline and agreed terms. Agreement
on the first two parts paves the way for
the last two parts," the written
agreement said.

This was not an agreement, it was a surrender. The US surrendered to the Taliban on February 29 2020 and effectively handed over Afghanistan to the Taliban.


The US released 5,000 Taliban fighters along with its leader. Shebi the US says they don't negotiate with terrorists?

See a screenshot of the agreement below with emphasis on the bolded section. You will see that it was a complete surrender, with the only Condition being that the Taliban guarantees that a Taliban controlled Afghanistan would not be used as a terrorist base from which to launch attacks on the U.S. and it allies.

How the US will enforce the guarantee once she withdraws all troops is a mystery to me.the the US population would definitely not support a return of US troops to Afghanistan should another Osama bin Laden take refuge in the countery.

Nothing Biden would have done to stop or reverse the process without huge political fall out. Biden's only fault was underestimating the strength of the Taliban and overestimating the strength of the US trained and equipped Afghan military.

wirinet:


This was not an agreement, it was a surrender. The US surrendered to the Taliban on February 29 2020 and effectively handed over Afghanistan to the Taliban.


The US released 5,000 Taliban fighters along with its leader. Shebi the US says they don't negotiate with terrorists?

See a screenshot of the agreement below with emphasis on the bolded section. You will see that it was a complete surrender, with the only Condition being that the Taliban guarantees that a Taliban controlled Afghanistan would not be used as a terrorist base from which to launch attacks on the U.S. and it allies.

How the US will enforce the guarantee once she withdraws all troops is a mystery to me.the the US population would definitely not support a return of US troops to Afghanistan should another Osama bin Laden take refuge in the countery.

Nothing Biden would have done to stop or reverse the process without huge political fall out. Biden's only fault was underestimating the strength of the Taliban and overestimating the strength of the US trained and equipped Afghan military.

Wirinet, you were disagreeing with me about the pull out yesterday. President Biden is in a hard spot with the situation at hand in Afghanistan and understandably so because the three Presidents before him including Obama that i love should have done what Biden just did. It's a wrong place to be for twenty years. After $2 Trillion and thousands of young lives lost, Americans are overwhelmingly against staying in Afghanistan when majority of Afghans don't even like the so called "Infidels" in their country. It might not be the best way to pull out but it's the right thing to do after twenty years. These Jihadists and Mujahedeens do not believe in Western Style Democracy and they prefer their Sharia Laws and that's why there's no resistance to Taliban by the Afghan Army with all the armaments America left for them. Thankfully that we can redirect our money to fix America because we can't be the policeman of the world.

4.41am Nigeria time and Mr Jobless is on Nairaland prowling again. What a way to be poor in life ben the armed security guard guarding my friend in London.

PrideofLincoln1:
Wirinet, you were disagreeing with me about the pull out yesterday. President Biden is in a hard spot with the situation at hand in Afghanistan and understandably so because the three Presidents before him including Obama that i love should have done what Biden just did. It's a wrong place to be for twenty years. After $2 Trillion and thousands of young lives lost, Americans are overwhelmingly against staying in Afghanistan when majority of Afghans don't even like the so called "Infidels" in their country. It might not be the best way to pull out but it's the right thing to do after twenty years. These Jihadists and Mujahedeens do not believe in Western Style Democracy and they prefer their Sharia Laws and that's why there's no resistance to Taliban by the Afghan Army with all the armaments America left for them. Thankfully that we can redirect our money to fix America because we can't be the policeman of the world.

I don't really see it as a disagreement. I see it more as a difference in perspective. I was pointing out that the US goes into these military adventures with no clear objective or clear exit strategy, and they all always end up in disaster, ie Vietnam, Bosnia, Iraq and now Afghanistan. Even South Korea is a disaster waiting to happen. The minute US forces withdraw from South Korea, the North would over run thr country in less that 2 years. I am saying the US should start identifying its economic and strategic objectives along with an exit strategy before going into any military conflict, especially the invasion of another country.

wirinet:


I don't really see it as a disagreement. I see it more as a difference in perspective. I was pointing out that the US goes into these military adventures with no clear objective or clear exit strategy, and they all always end up in disaster, ie Vietnam, Bosnia, Iraq and now Afghanistan. Even South Korea is a disaster waiting to happen. The minute US forces withdraw from South Korea, the North would over run thr country in less that 2 years. I am saying the US should start identifying its economic and strategic objectives along with an exit strategy before going into any military conflict, especially the invasion of another country.

I agree with you except the South Korea part for one simple reason. South Korea is a thriving economy with Democracy at its core and don't forget that the armistice is holding on very well between South and North Korea. Look at the other countries you mentioned and none of them have Democracy and good economy at their sides.

wirinet:


I don't really see it as a disagreement. I see it more as a difference in perspective. I was pointing out that the US goes into these military adventures with no clear objective or clear exit strategy, and they all always end up in disaster, ie Vietnam, Bosnia, Iraq and now Afghanistan. Even South Korea is a disaster waiting to happen. The minute US forces withdraw from South Korea, the North would over run thr country in less that 2 years. I am saying the US should start identifying its economic and strategic objectives along with an exit strategy before going into any military conflict, especially the invasion of another country.

Everyone or most people want the pull out but not like this. All of you magically or rightfully say this is inevitable, how come Biden and his generals don't see it? What did they do to take mitigate this?

They could have just come out saying the truth to begin with.

Address the world and say what is going to happen.

Some of you pushing conspiracy here, Russia and China will always enter where America left for strategic reasons.

Biden is a disaster

Gutless ben runs to his favorite Mods crying like a baby that he's.

benalvino3:


Everyone or most people want the pull out but not like this. All of you magically or rightfully say this is inevitable, how come Biden and his generals don't see it? What did they do to take mitigate this?

They could have just come out saying the truth to begin with.

Address the world and say what is going to happen.

Some of you pushing conspiracy here, Russia and China will always enter where America left for strategic reasons.

Biden is a disaster

obonujoker:


Amen... God bless America

I say a Big Amen to that. Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. Semper Fi, always ready.

PrideofLincoln2:
Gutless ben runs to his favoriteMods crying like a baby that he's.

Sorry the mod konk you. I really don't report anyone except when they doxx.

You don't know anything about me but I know you, I have seen all your kids and can tell when you lie and when you don't from the information I have gathered about you.

You don't fool anyone here even the cronies on your side.
Do you spend time with your wife? You have been hear since 3pm your local time and you will be here till thy kingdom come

Oldman behaving like a toddler

benalvino3:


Everyone or most people want the pull out but not like this. All of you magically or rightfully say this is inevitable, how come Biden and his generals don't see it? What did they do to take mitigate this?

They could have just come out saying the truth to begin with.

Address the world and say what is going to happen.

Some of you pushing conspiracy here, Russia and China will always enter where America left for strategic reasons.

Biden is a disaster

I posted the agreement of February 29 2020 to show you that the Trump administration had already handed Afghanistan over to the Taliban. Trump had already reduced US forces in the country to about 2500 troops. You know that 2500 troops cannot hold the country, Kabul maybe but not the whole of Afghanistan.

What the generals did not see was the speed at which the US trained Afghan military capitulated once the remaining US troops left. They thought that it would have taken at least a month of fighting before the Taliban would eventually take Kabul, which they felt would have given them enough time to evacuate the embassy and U.S. citizen. They did not envisage that the whole country and Kabul would fall within 1 week.

If Biden is a disaster, Trump was a catastrophe.

Not good.

Hm

wirinet:


This was not an agreement, it was a surrender. The US surrendered to the Taliban on February 29 2020 and effectively handed over Afghanistan to the Taliban.


The US released 5,000 Taliban fighters along with its leader. Shebi the US says they don't negotiate with terrorists?

See a screenshot of the agreement below with emphasis on the bolded section. You will see that it was a complete surrender, with the only Condition being that the Taliban guarantees that a Taliban controlled Afghanistan would not be used as a terrorist base from which to launch attacks on the U.S. and it allies.

How the US will enforce the guarantee once she withdraws all troops is a mystery to me.the the US population would definitely not support a return of US troops to Afghanistan should another Osama bin Laden take refuge in the countery.

Nothing Biden would have done to stop or reverse the process without huge political fall out. Biden's only fault was underestimating the strength of the Taliban and overestimating the strength of the US trained and equipped Afghan military.

Its hard living the life of a Trump hater. The agreement. takes care of terrorism support first, then moves on how the two should engage in dialogue.
At the time Afghan has 4 times more soldiers than Taliban and state of the art hardware .
How this amounts to surrender is stuff left wing media is pushing on guile minds.

The talks had started between the Taliban and govt in Doha

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54255862

Clearly about how far Islamic laws should be implemented was a hot topic.

The agreement signed was premised o. the US pulling out within 14 months if the Taliban held up the agreement.

on this I would urge you to read Wikipedia, the leftist editors have nit slanted it as of now to malign Trump. Article sounds factual with no bias.

PrideofLincoln2:
I say a Big Amen to that. Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. Semper Fi, always ready.

Yeah... However some nairaland doom prophets are calling America "Babylon the great", instead of them to be happy America is ruling the world now

benalvino3:


Sorry the mod konk you. I really don't report anyone except when they doxx.

You don't know anything about me but I know you, I have seen all your kids and can tell when you lie and when you don't from the information I have gathered about you.

You don't fool anyone here even the cronies on your side.
Do you spend time with your wife? You have been hear since 3pm your local time and you will be here till thy kingdom come

Oldman behaving like a toddler

Let me help you analyse PrideofLincoln's reality.

Someone revealed his names with his first name beginning with an L and last name with a B.
He's a Muslim too and Yoruba. He denied it wasn't him.

His most known moniker which he has used over the years then dumped is " Lucasbalo".

Lucas. The Lu part is a homonym of the first inflection of his actual first name.
Balo is the short form of his actual last name if you remove the part which is a weapon.

His other moniker "AbbeyBailey" has his picture which he uploaded in 2018 as at two nights ago. Similar pictures someone uploaded here from his Facebook account which he denied isn't him.

Same person posted his Facebook and LinkedIn details which his minions begged the moderators to delete. With court files too.

From LinkedIn, the old man works in a chain of retail outlets. From Facebook posted, he is old. Looks older than his actual 60+ years even.
Local-search the details of the area he has always claimed lives in. The details match the location the person revealed about him.

He'd only fool those he would fool. If you really want to get information about him, you'd have to walk your way back through the years, focusing on the peculiar braggadocios he engages in then use those as your key search words to build on.

He should relax. I'm onto him. I promised him in May this year that I was.

Tdotbluejays:

Fixed.

I saw videos of men rejoicing, hailing and welcoming the Talibans with a kiss in Kabul..some men were also boasting about how they would marry 4 wives and cover their faces up with burqa.

The ones we saw rushing to the airport are just a few people. It's a country of 38 million people. Maybe 2,000 people made a dash for the airport.

I saw it too,what can I say I know the women will be more vulnerable but then some men as well.
The men in that country have sexism/misogyny embedded in their DNA.

basilico:


Its hard living the life of a Trump hater. The agreement. takes care of terrorism support first, then moves on how the two should engage in dialogue.
At the time Afghan has 4 times more soldiers than Taliban and state of the art hardware .
How this amounts to surrender is stuff left wing media is pushing on guile minds.

The talks had started between the Taliban and govt in Doha

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54255862

Clearly about how far Islamic laws should be implemented was a hot topic.

The agreement signed was premised o. the US pulling out within 14 months if the Taliban held up the agreement.

on this I would urge you to read Wikipedia, the leftist editors have nit slanted it as of now to malign Trump. Article sounds factual with no bias.

Please explain how the agreement on not supporting terrorism can be upheld? If the Taliban harbours another Osama bin Laden, what other measures can the US take outside another invasion ( after series of sanctions). Read the full "agreement" and tell me what the US gained from the agreement.

What other talks did you expect between the Taliban and former Afghan government when the US had already surrendered the country to Taliban on February 29 2020? The Afghan government were not part of the original agreement, so any other agreement between the Taliban and the Afghan government is a ruse. The actual war was between the US and the Taliban, the Afghan government was a prop of the US.

Quit lying. There was no ifs in the agreement. The Trump administration had made up its mind to withdraw by May 31 come what may. It was a campaign promise he was determined to keep.

Pentagon says US has dropped to 2,500 troops in Afghanistan
By ROBERT BURNS and LOLITA C. BALDOR
January 15, 2021

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. military has met its goal of reducing the number of troops in Afghanistan to about 2,500 by Friday, a drawdown that may have violated a last-minute congressional prohibition.

The reduction could complicate matters for the incoming Biden administration, which must determine how to handle a Trump administration commitment to the Taliban to remove all U.S. military, intelligence and contractor personnel from Afghanistan by May as a move to spur peace negotiations. Those talks are in an early stage.

Senior U.S. commanders are skeptical of the Taliban’s stated commitment to peace, although they have said they can accomplish their mission in Afghanistan with 2,500 troops.
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-donald-trump-afghanistan-taliban-united-states-16cc1dd5b2f74d463311d212ad0d215a

AmazonTopaz:


That man must have been corrupt,America wasted money to assist Ghani

"Wasted"? "Assist Ghani"? America needed a corrupt president in Afghanistan to help hide their own corruption. They didn't spend trillions there for no personal assistance to themselves.

Troops out is swamp draining!

budaatum:


"Wasted"? "Assist Ghani"? America needed a corrupt president in Afghanistan to help hide their own corruption. They didn't spend trillions there for no personal assistance to themselves.

Troops out is swamp draining!

Popoolavictor01:
Hi

Right on cue, someone comes selling data bundles here

benalvino3:


Everyone or most people want the pull out but not like this. All of you magically or rightfully say this is inevitable, how come Biden and his generals don't see it? What did they do to take mitigate this?

They could have just come out saying the truth to begin with.

Address the world and say what is going to happen.

Some of you pushing conspiracy here, Russia and China will always enter where America left for strategic reasons.

Biden is a disaster

@bolded spot on. Biden made it look like most people didn't want him to pull the troops out of Afghanistan. The point is how it was done, the method, the stages, the process. The whole thing was so shabby and unplanned, hence the chaos the followed.

benalvino3:


Sorry the mod konk you. I really don't report anyone except when they doxx.

You don't know anything about me but I know you, I have seen all your kids and can tell when you lie and when you don't from the information I have gathered about you.

You don't fool anyone here even the cronies on your side.
Do you spend time with your wife? You have been hear since 3pm your local time and you will be here till thy kingdom come

Oldman behaving like a toddler

PrideofToddler