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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:06am On Aug 18, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 10:08am On Aug 18, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 10:11am On Aug 18, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 10:15am On Aug 18, 2021 |
n3xt: My brother, better things are there in the market, but money is the issue. 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by negy2016: 10:15am On Aug 18, 2021 |
Thank you sir EgunMogaji2: 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:23am On Aug 18, 2021 |
spyder880: ![]() ![]() The current situation has made me to be more minimalistic than ever. I’ve experiment well enough to determine what’s enough for me. May God give us the money to explore life. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 10:48am On Aug 18, 2021 |
You did well by advertising the services and skills that you can offer. However, you do not promote your services while playing down another equally noble profession as yours. You said clients don't need Quantity Surveyor just because your software can be used to take off quantities from drawings. Your knowledge is actually very limited on the horizon of the QS practice. Quantity Surveying has lots of software that they used to prepare their Bill of Quantities. Softwares that do not only take off quantities but also prepare prepare of bill of quantities. Examples include QSCAD, MBBS, MASTERBILL among others. Do not think for a second that you've just discovered the most profound finding of the century just because your software used in design can take off quantities. It's nothing new. Even Revit and AUTOCAD do that. What you fail to grasp is that quantities generated by these softwares are "net quantities" in most items of work and CANNOT be used to order the right quantities of materials from the market. Besides, most items of work are composite items - concrete, block work, mortar etc which software couldn't even itemise individual quantities. So, just advertise your services and leave QS out of your troubles. I come in peace. yungmin: 11 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 10:56am On Aug 18, 2021 |
This one that everybody is coming in peace, I love it ![]()
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by yungmin: 11:22am On Aug 18, 2021 |
QSFemi: Chairman, read to understand. I specifically mention "material take-off" and not "BOQ" and that is what I was referring to by saying that I can provide the deliverable without a QS. Also, most jobs I have done and even in my current place of employment, I simplify the work of the QS by giving them the material take-off which they then arrange in their professional way for pricing. And beside, Engineers do prepare bills as well. So.... You came in peace but your comment is riddled with insulting language. Even without Revit, I can prepare all the material take-off manually. So, I really do not know what your grouse is. 6 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:27am On Aug 18, 2021 |
EgunMogaji2: APC |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 11:42am On Aug 18, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:47am On Aug 18, 2021 |
yungmin: Tbh, I read a different meaning to your “You don’t need a QS” message though. But on the flip side, I didn’t see your message until QSFemi made it pronounced. I agree you can promote your service without downplaying other profession. Edit: ________ Here’s my suggestion, kindly edit out the controversial part of your comment. I come in peace 5 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:50am On Aug 18, 2021 |
EgunMogaji2: I’ve called my clearing agent and already reaching out to the licensing office. As a matter of fact, I’d be of best behavior moving forward. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 12:44pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
I didn't insult you in any way. I only told you to mind your design business and leave QS out of it. The bolded is actually laughable because that's the false impression engineers go about telling unsuspecting clients. Engineering practice as established by the law in the country never identify nor recognise costing as one of the roles engineers played. Doing so is tantamount to quackery. Same way we've draughtsmen doing structural designs without requisite qualification and competence. That doesn't make them engineers. Engineers preparing bills, no matter how badly prepared it's, is nothing but quackery. Quantity Surveying practice is also established by CAP Q1 Laws of the Federation of Nigeria (LFN) 2004, used to be decree No 31 of December 5, 1986 - an act of the National Assembly. Do well to familiarise yourself with laws establishing COREN in the country. Back to materials take off from designs that you're bragging about, I still main the status quo, it's not a big deal. It's been around for years. yungmin: 6 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by walexProjects(m): 12:46pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
n3xt:For this system, the main advantage is to ensure availability of water supply even when theirs no Electricity. Gravity supply is a natural effect which will occur because water will always follow the path of least resistance. 2 Likes
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 12:52pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
EgunMogaji2:yaay 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 12:54pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 1:05pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
n3xt: You don't need free things abeg. Clear and I will come ride to Ibadan myself n it will be written that @next is a cheerful giver too. Ibadan ni mowa edaakun 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:22pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by yungmin: 1:36pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
QSFemi: You are begining to display your ignorance. Are you the one costing roads and bridges? What law established that engineers don't do costing? Please, state it? Or you don't know the is a full body of knowledge called cost engineering? Or you don't know cost engineering is an area of specialization for some engineers? What do you know by your training as a QS about bridges, roads, jetties etc. Have you heard of the term - BEME(bill of engineering measurements and evaluation)? Is it a QS' term? Stop displaying your ignorance. Please, state the section of the law that prohibits engineers from costing. 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 2:19pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
Get yourself educated first before throwing the word "ignorance" around. There's nothing like BEME in the eye of the law. It's just an unscrupulous attempt by engineers to usurp QS of their primary roles of costing. Come to think of it, you think the construction you mentioned such as bridges, jetties etc cannot be cost by a QS? How ignorant are you! Last two weeks, I prepared a bid for a dredging project brought to me by an engineer. Countless Quantity Surveyors are working with Julius Berger, Cappa and D'Alberto, CCECC (China Civil Engineering Construction Company) undertaking bridges, road construction, railway constructions. I've worked in a road construction company before costing nothing but roads, bridges and related works. The term "cost engineering" is foreign to the Nigerian infrastructure development industry. It's never an area of specialisation in Nigeria. Rather, it's a specialized field used mostly in the USA. Due to absence of the term "quantity surveying" in the USA, cost engineering suffices to fulfil the role. Some of Nigerian trained quantity surveying graduates have undertaken post graduate studies in cost engineering in the USA. This should tell you that cost engineering is not domiciled only in the body of engineering alone even in the USA. Nigeria gained independence from the UK and most of the tertiary education curriculum in Nigeria is fashioned after the UK model. In the UK construction and infrastructure development Industry, quantity surveyors are the only recognised cost expert on infrastructure developments - buildings, roads, bridges, jetties, railways etc. The fight by engineers to oversee costing of infrastructure developments is an attempt to further drag the country further into the abyss of corruption that the country is already battling with. Design and costing are two independent specialized fields and they're not mutually inclusive. yungmin: 8 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Blessedsunny2(m): 2:23pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by yungmin: 2:26pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:32pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
After this, nobody should come in peace again o ![]() |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 2:33pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 2:36pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
I won't patronize anyone that brings down other people's legal business just to promote theirs. I can't and won't trust such a person in any deal. 13 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by yungmin: 2:49pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
QSFemi: And you did not state the section that prohibits engineers from doing costing. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 2:52pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
Is that your best defence now? yungmin: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 3:04pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
somehow:Seconded We remain peaceful! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 3:06pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
sonnie10: I get paid to write, so no time to do any e-quarrel. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by TEQ365VENTURES(m): 3:10pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 3:33pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
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