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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by antimason(m): 10:30am On Aug 19, 2021
tensazangetsu20:
Tech twitter has been on fire this past few days. First was the new startup law being passed that will see the government taking one percent of startup revenue especially fintechs and the second was the closure of accounts belonging to fintech companies like risevest, investbamboo, and trove. This is just 2 months after the crypto ban.

I predicted this will happen a few months back but some people as usual called me a pessimist. Now, this has happened. They came for gokada first citing stupid reasons yet okadas are still in Lagos driving anyhow. They blocked remittances and made it very difficult to receive money. If you work remotely in Nigeria for a foreign company, you can attest to how difficult it is to receive money. I know people who have lost their jobs just because the companies they work for could not figure out how they could pay them in Nigeria then add the epileptic electricity supply and the bad internet.

If you are a programmer, trust me you are amongst the elite. Walai every day I regret not discovering the tech industry earlier. There's a fucking huge demand for programmers outside the shores of Africa. Latin America, Europe, and Asia. A lot of people think japa and will be thinking USA and Canada. Getting a work visa to these countries as a Nigerian living in Nigeria is almost impossible. It has happened for some people but its not the norm and you should not place your hope on it. The USA has a cap on the amount of work visas that go out every year and those visas most times go to OPT candidates (people who have schooled in the US). Canada doesnt have a cap but they prefer permanent residents or citizens to processing a work visa from scratch for an outsider. Australia same thing.

There are other countries that exist that do not have a cap on work visas and are desperately looking for programmers. These countries can be used as a stepping stone to your final dream destination instead of wasting your life in Nigeria looking for a US or Canadian visa. Countries like portugal, spain, brazil, mexico, vietnam, japan, south korea. The list is endless. These are countries desperately looking for programmers and their work visas arent difficult to get. Their governments are even encouraging tech migration to prepare for the next industrial revolution. As a Nigerian you have a serious advantage getting there. You speak English. English is the unofficial defacto language of the IT industry. If you go on linkedin and search tech jobs in this countries, you would find out that one of the requirements for most of these jobs is professional english proficiency. Their citizens dont have it and a few who have it are headhunted to countries like the US and Canada leaving a huge gap for skilled third worlders like Nigerians to take advantage of. A japanese programmer who speaks english really well can get into the USA easily. Japan has a visa waiver program with the USA and is one of the few countries that shares a working holiday visa with the US. Brazil has one with germany. Uruguay has with sweden. These are countries you should target because their own people are leaving presenting a very huge gap. Once you can get into these countries, leaving to your dream destination isnt too difficult and even if you dont want to leave, these countries have a lot of opportunities for you to build your own tech business. Their governments are very progressive. Their people arent poor or getting poorer and are very open to using technology. Theres another way of getting to the US via L1 company transfer but how many american tech companies exist in Nigeria and whats the size of the engineering team? These countries have as much 2000 to 3000 size engineering teams. You can move there, switch jobs to an american company and request for an L1 company transfer. The possibilities are limitless.

I myself started testing this theory out and I have gotten ten interviews from companies in Ukraine, Poland, Belarus, Vietnam, and Chile. I am in the mid way of 3 and I really hope one goes through as I want to leave the zoo fast.

You might say stay in Nigeria and start a tech business. Well with what the government is doing to startups and the purchasing power of Nigerians reducing everyday, I dont know how that would be viable. NIgeria is so bad to the point that to eat food is a problem. Growing up, Nigeria was never at a level where food will be a problem. Festival periods and we would have food from all our neighbours even the poorest. Now thas not done and the worst is yet to come.

You can say stay in Nigeria and continue remote. Trust me remote work is sweet in your 20s but a sponsorship job is better as you would be provided insurance for, pension plans and all of that which remote work wont give you and remote jobs arent stable especially with small companies. You can lose them anytime and you need to start looking again. Its not bad in your 20s but will you be doing this at 40 and above. Will you be applying to remote jobs at 50 when your mates who migrated are CTOs for fortune 500 companies earning millions of dollars every year while you are looking for scraps in remote.

Make haste o.
here is my own dilemma, I am a truck driver very much employed (gainfully), but I have this passion to learn programming. Of course the nature of my job can't give me the chance for person tutelage. So sincerely I want to ask if I can develop it personally,if yes which of the programs is best suited for beginners. And also whenever I decide to start and end up hitting am impasse of understanding the next step can you act as a source of online tutor?

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by Litmus: 10:32am On Aug 19, 2021
Just when Nigerians are becoming recognised worldwide as excellent programmers and a computing tech and fintech hub is beginning to take root and bloom in Nigeria, some want to sabotage all that. undecided
Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by Nobody: 10:34am On Aug 19, 2021
Buhari and apc are major proponents of poverty and misery. They don't want the Nigerian youths to flourish but don't be in despair, their wickedness will consume them to their infinite generation. Now I call out Mannaqbgrills and the perverted likes to repent before it's too late.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by CSTRR: 10:34am On Aug 19, 2021
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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by RedEnergy: 10:35am On Aug 19, 2021
ichidodo:
I understand french and I am currently learning python to build an algorithm on a ground breaking idea...And if I eventually get a hang of this programming language...I will like to find a country that appreciates the easy migration of programmers especially in Africa..
I'm learning Python too. The day i finally grasp how to write complex python codes for application development, that's the day i will mark down as the Independence Day of my Life. I love Python

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by CSTRR: 10:36am On Aug 19, 2021
And for those that say APC and pdp are the same , you are very mad.

PDP is multiple degrees better than APC.

A PDP is sensible enough to know the importance of the tech sector.

Atiku despite how corrupt he is would have been much better for the business climate in Nigeria.

Yes, I said it.

Atiku would have been better for Nigeria than Buhari.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by Sarmiz24(m): 10:37am On Aug 19, 2021
In honest truth, if u are a human being in the this country leaving should be ur Utmost Priority... This country is a kill joy, they won’t provide opportunities but yet still take away the ones you got for yourself...

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by Deicide: 10:38am On Aug 19, 2021
The reason why things are very difficult is because of Nigerian youth ...why was Nigeria blocked from using Paypal? Yes you guessed Right, Scammers. You are asking people to leave Nigeria, only for them to leave and continue scamming people in other countries, see hushpoppy undecided all this I must get rich by force mentality should stop.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by kunleiky(m): 10:38am On Aug 19, 2021
Ok following.
But those of you quoting the whole post sad
Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by CSTRR: 10:38am On Aug 19, 2021
The UK currently has a work pathway for skilled people in tech.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by Coldie(m): 10:40am On Aug 19, 2021
tensazangetsu20:
Tech twitter has been on fire this past few days. First was the new startup law being passed that will see the government taking one percent of startup revenue especially fintechs and the second was the closure of accounts belonging to fintech companies like risevest, investbamboo, and trove. This is just 2 months after the crypto ban.

I predicted this will happen a few months back but some people as usual called me a pessimist. Now, this has happened. They came for gokada first citing stupid reasons yet okadas are still in Lagos driving anyhow. They blocked remittances and made it very difficult to receive money. If you work remotely in Nigeria for a foreign company, you can attest to how difficult it is to receive money. I know people who have lost their jobs just because the companies they work for could not figure out how they could pay them in Nigeria then add the epileptic electricity supply and the bad internet.

If you are a programmer, trust me you are amongst the elite. Walai every day I regret not discovering the tech industry earlier. There's a fucking huge demand for programmers outside the shores of Africa. Latin America, Europe, and Asia. A lot of people think japa and will be thinking USA and Canada. Getting a work visa to these countries as a Nigerian living in Nigeria is almost impossible. It has happened for some people but its not the norm and you should not place your hope on it. The USA has a cap on the amount of work visas that go out every year and those visas most times go to OPT candidates (people who have schooled in the US). Canada doesnt have a cap but they prefer permanent residents or citizens to processing a work visa from scratch for an outsider. Australia same thing.

There are other countries that exist that do not have a cap on work visas and are desperately looking for programmers. These countries can be used as a stepping stone to your final dream destination instead of wasting your life in Nigeria looking for a US or Canadian visa. Countries like portugal, spain, brazil, mexico, vietnam, japan, south korea. The list is endless. These are countries desperately looking for programmers and their work visas arent difficult to get. Their governments are even encouraging tech migration to prepare for the next industrial revolution. As a Nigerian you have a serious advantage getting there. You speak English. English is the unofficial defacto language of the IT industry. If you go on linkedin and search tech jobs in this countries, you would find out that one of the requirements for most of these jobs is professional english proficiency. Their citizens dont have it and a few who have it are headhunted to countries like the US and Canada leaving a huge gap for skilled third worlders like Nigerians to take advantage of. A japanese programmer who speaks english really well can get into the USA easily. Japan has a visa waiver program with the USA and is one of the few countries that shares a working holiday visa with the US. Brazil has one with germany. Uruguay has with sweden. These are countries you should target because their own people are leaving presenting a very huge gap. Once you can get into these countries, leaving to your dream destination isnt too difficult and even if you dont want to leave, these countries have a lot of opportunities for you to build your own tech business. Their governments are very progressive. Their people arent poor or getting poorer and are very open to using technology. Theres another way of getting to the US via L1 company transfer but how many american tech companies exist in Nigeria and whats the size of the engineering team? These countries have as much 2000 to 3000 size engineering teams. You can move there, switch jobs to an american company and request for an L1 company transfer. The possibilities are limitless.

I myself started testing this theory out and I have gotten ten interviews from companies in Ukraine, Poland, Belarus, Vietnam, and Chile. I am in the mid way of 3 and I really hope one goes through as I want to leave the zoo fast.

You might say stay in Nigeria and start a tech business. Well with what the government is doing to startups and the purchasing power of Nigerians reducing everyday, I dont know how that would be viable. NIgeria is so bad to the point that to eat food is a problem. Growing up, Nigeria was never at a level where food will be a problem. Festival periods and we would have food from all our neighbours even the poorest. Now thas not done and the worst is yet to come.

You can say stay in Nigeria and continue remote. Trust me remote work is sweet in your 20s but a sponsorship job is better as you would be provided insurance for, pension plans and all of that which remote work wont give you and remote jobs arent stable especially with small companies. You can lose them anytime and you need to start looking again. Its not bad in your 20s but will you be doing this at 40 and above. Will you be applying to remote jobs at 50 when your mates who migrated are CTOs for fortune 500 companies earning millions of dollars every year while you are looking for scraps in remote.

Make haste o.
Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by CSTRR: 10:40am On Aug 19, 2021
RedEnergy:
I'm learning Python too. The day i finally grasp how to write complex python codes for application development, that's the day i will mark down as the Independence Day of my Life. I love Python
I have been trying to master front end Development.

It's not been easy mhen.

Javascript is a beast.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by RedEnergy: 10:41am On Aug 19, 2021
The earlier the youths wake up and realize Nigeria has no future, the better for all of us. The only people enjoying Nigeria are the govt thieves and their cronies that are looting this country's resources. No wahala. You can keep the resources but you can't have me too. The day i step out of this country to the USA or Europe on a legal permanent residency visa, i'm never coming back. C'est la vie Nigeria, the youth killer, the destiny ruiner, the poverty maker and bondage manufacturer. It was never nice knowing you.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by Coldie(m): 10:42am On Aug 19, 2021
Sarmiz24:
In honest truth, if u are a human being in the this country leaving should be ur Utmost Priority... This country is a kill joy, they won’t provide opportunities but yet still take away the ones you got for yourself...
Country that making money online is enough to make EFcc arrest u without warrant is what u take seriously

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by Litmus: 10:43am On Aug 19, 2021



Africans for you, so blinded are they by the illusion of white saviour they never want to stay in Africa to build things that they may not live to see but that their children may grow up to see and enjoy some day.


The Image

Boat migrant: The black man is lost in his gratefulness at reaching heaven and being embraced by whites that he no doubt sees as Gods and angels. But aware white woman can’t bring herself to touch his head that she worries is diseased.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by CSTRR: 10:44am On Aug 19, 2021
@RedEnergy.

There is one Yoruba guy that produce python tutorial videos for freecodecamp on YouTube.

His YouTube handle is code with tomi.

That guy is a python lord.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by richmanrichard: 10:45am On Aug 19, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

No problemo we would have more opportunities in the coming months just get good and PM me once you are confident to take a job. Our hiring window is closed now but you need to pass our test.
They would call you an IPOB, but it doesn't matter.Even them hypocrist wan japa too frm their darling zoo.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by kunleiky(m): 10:45am On Aug 19, 2021
CSTRR:
@RedEnergy.

There is one Yoruba guy that produce python tutorial videos for freecodecamp on YouTube.

His YouTube handle is code with tomi.

That guy is a python lord.

I feel you bro.
He's doing well Python-wise

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by Nobody: 10:46am On Aug 19, 2021
Icumsa45:
Buhari and apc are major proponents of poverty and misery. They don't want the Nigerian youths to flourish but don't be in despair, their wickedness will consume them to their infinite generation. Now I call out Mannaqbgrills and the perverted likes to repent before it's too late.
please, you guys really need to stop giving worthless pple relevance. Let the mad and hopeless remain mad and hopeless. I keep seeing a lot of you mentioning these sickos almost constantly. They are not well!!! Ignore and distance yourselves from morbidly unwell people. By constantly talking about them you are inadvertently elevating them to some sort of infamous celeb status. Pls let's learn to ignore the sickos as best as we can. Cheers

PS: to leave Nigeria is the goal. If you can and have a solid plan, you'd be doing the best thing ever for yourself and your kids by leaving this hell, before it is too late

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by jimcaddy(m): 10:46am On Aug 19, 2021
Everyone saying Jakpa, jakpa. If you ask them to give you specifics on how to jakpa, you will hear different stories. No one will give you the information you need. Besides shey if those ones did not put their own houses in order, will we see where to migrate to? We used our own hands to spoil our country. Greed and sentiments brought us to where we are in Nigeria today where food has now become a problem. Even if everyone jakpa, will it make Nigeria better? We are only leaving for our individual selfish interests and that of our families.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by beejaay: 10:47am On Aug 19, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:


A beg, let us not prophesy this. I know you are saying a possibility. I argued with my life that Nigerians can never offer themselves as suicide bombers around 2008 when we started hearing the rumor. But here we are today. However, we cannot afford to let this happen.

Instead of just talking, the little we can do, we can help Nigeria.

the best way to solve any problem is by projecting the worst and using that projection to work in the present..in Nigeria we focus on praying and hoping instead of using logic to solve problem..our problem is logical problem and only logic can solve it

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by KushLyon(m): 10:49am On Aug 19, 2021
tensazangetsu baba, i dey always like your posts about programming, e dey always give me inspiration....make i even bookmark this page sef and dey use am as reference

very apt write up, like I was telling someone a few days ago that was worried about the Nigerian market for a selected skill, always strive for the global market, keep shooting for the moon and even if you miss, you will land among the stars

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by HobbiDr: 10:50am On Aug 19, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

No problemo we would have more opportunities in the coming months just get good and PM me once you are confident to take a job. Our hiring window is closed now but you need to pass our test.

Oboy!!! Hahaha... This hate is it for Nigeria as a country itself or for its citizenry or country and citizenry combine gringringrin... Funny i must say.

Okay, now please I'm new and would like to learn this programming of a thing because from the look it's becoming the future of the world now.

Please can you take me in the hand for a walk through to the very end? Dont worry I'm a fast learner with an engineering background and in my mid 30's kindly let me know what it will take me to be a professional.
Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by CSTRR: 10:50am On Aug 19, 2021
kunleiky:


I feel you bro.
He's doing well Python-wise
The guy demystified backend web development with python for good 10 hours.

Even oyibos sef bow for the tutorial.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by richmanrichard: 10:51am On Aug 19, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

Oh yes that's why I tell people all the time to learn coding. Infact I have told gerrard59 that when God blesses me the only thing I will do for my homeland is opening a very huge IT centre with a ton of computers for my kinsmen to learn programming. Before I became a programmer I was a mechanic o. I was a mechanic and an auto parts trader with my engineering degree. No job anywhere. I went to volunteer at a mechanic workshop and learnt to fix cars. Left there and went back to ladipo. I was struggling day in day out yet no single Kobo. To even see a 100k in a month was like a huge amount after all expenses were done. It was hell. Even with all the skills I had. I knew digital marketing, how to fix cars yet nothing o. it was a very top guy in the Nigerian tech industry that told me to quit everything I was doing and learn coding. It wasn't easy but everyday I thank God I took that man's advise.

Infact the greatest thing that can lift Nigeria out of poverty now is programming but the greatest hindrance is a laptop and laptops aren't getting cheaper. the laptop I used to learn coding I got it for 75k the same laptop is being sold for at least 140k just in the span of a year.
how long did it take you to acquire all these skillset?

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by tensazangetsu20(m): 10:52am On Aug 19, 2021
HobbiDr:


Oboy!!! Hahaha... This hate is it for Nigeria as a country itself or for its citizenry or country and citizenry combine gringringrin... Funny i must say.

Okay, now please I'm new and would like to learn this programming of a thing because from the look it's becoming the future of the world now.

Please can you take me in the hand for a walk through to the very end? Dont worry I'm a fast learner with an engineering background and in my mid 30's kindly let me know what it will take me to be a professional.

https://www.nairaland.com/6306692/how-recommend-newbie-goes-learning. Read through here.
Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by Nobody: 10:52am On Aug 19, 2021
The fintech are mostly Avenue for money laundering and the government has right to ban them.

On the bad internet, it is terrible to get good internet outside Lagos, and Lagos is too chaotic.

I am counting on Starlinks from SpaceX. There is hope.

As for giving government 1% from my start up, it's nothing compared to the 35% applicable in the US but in Nigeria we can bribe the bribable.

Let's sacrifice our comfort and build something for our children if the Fulani will allow us have peace in the South

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by tensazangetsu20(m): 10:52am On Aug 19, 2021
richmanrichard:
how long did it take you to acquire all these skillset?
Six months but I was coding at least 10 hours every day. I still code at least 12 hours daily now.

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Re: Why Leaving Nigeria Must Be Your Utmost Priority As A Programmer by RedEnergy: 10:53am On Aug 19, 2021
CSTRR:

I have been trying to master front end Development.

It's not been easy mhen.

Javascript is a beast.

That's cool. Java is a must for me. My 3 main programming goals are Python, Java and C++. And honestly i can relate with the difficulty, especially when the valuable time i'm meant to use to develop and master my skills, i have to spend 90% of that time trying to survive in a country with a govt that's eager and determined to kill its citizens one way or another.

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