tensazangetsu20:

Bros trust me once I leave this country I wilk never come back and I will lay a curse on my generations. Anyone who decides to come back to Africa will die immediately he lands in African country. I shall lay the curse naked. Walai and I also tell my children the same thing. Anyday they return to where I have struggled to escape from they will die.

There's really no job in Nigeria I can come for. Maybe before I became a programmer you can say so. But all the money I make from programming it's white men. Infact my present skillset and how good I am now was my boss that took me under his mentorship and taught me so much. He's a white man. I have brought In two young Nigerians both juniors into the same company and he's also all teaching us. The same people were rejected by companies in Nigeria but na oyinbo man still come give them chance. Through his mentorship I have gone to work on projects that are used by billion dollar companies. Billion with a b o. As for political position, you can forget it. I will never ever contest to Be a politician in the zoo. I never even did my nysc after graduation so that disqualifies me and I don't give a Bleep.

There's really nothing Nigeria has given me I can say yes thank God I am a Nigerian. My university education wasn't even in Nigeria. As for working in Nigeria. I have only worked with a Nigerian company for two months and that was it the rest of my work has been with companies based abroad.

Secondary Citizen lol maybe for other professions not for programmers O. You don't know what is going on now. The tech industry is basically an employee's market now. This other countries I am talking about. Their salaries might not be USA level but they are ten times higher than Nigeria. I won't pay rent. Food will be given to me. This was stated explicitly at the interviews I have done so basically my salary will just be a pocket money. You can feel the desperation in their eyes even during interviews.

As for my family I really wish them well. The only thing I will do is build a house in Ghana for my mom and dad to stay in and bring my sister over immediately she graduates but as for Nigeria once I am done that's it. Even if I come to Africa to visit I will go to another African country and then the person who wants to see me will come there.

tensazangetsu20:

Six months but I was coding at least 10 hours every day. I still code at least 12 hours daily now.

PeaceJoyLove:


A beg, let us not prophesy this. I know you are saying a possibility. I argued with my life that Nigerians can never offer themselves as suicide bombers around 2008 when we started hearing the rumor. But here we are today. However, we cannot afford to let this happen.

Instead of just talking, the little we can do, we can help Nigeria.

Gerrard59:


Coming from someone I always see viewing the Canada express entry thread, you are the biggest hypocrite I have seen today.

BECALMBECALM:
@op, i have been following your post on nairaland. You have a very sound mind. I am based in South Korea. Can i send you a Pm? I have things to discuss with you. God bless

PeaceJoyLove:

You are an idiootaaa for this. A big one. Go na. Go and find another nation and leave us with our Nigeria. Mu.mu.

tensazangetsu20:

Six months but I was coding at least 10 hours every day. I still code at least 12 hours daily now.

The5DME:
I hate Nigeria to be honest.

PeaceJoyLove:


You are not even up to 30 and your tongue is sharp. I had to check your stuff and I SMH. You see humble boys celebrate everytime; yet, you beat your chest up and down NL daily. SMH. You better add humility to your resume.

tensazangetsu20:

Bros trust me once I leave this country I wilk never come back and I will lay a curse on my generations. Anyone who decides to come back to Africa will die immediately he lands in African country. I shall lay the curse naked. Walai and I also tell my children the same thing. Anyday they return to where I have struggled to escape from they will die.

There's really no job in Nigeria I can come for. Maybe before I became a programmer you can say so. But all the money I make from programming it's white men. Infact my present skillset and how good I am now was my boss that took me under his mentorship and taught me so much. He's a white man. I have brought In two young Nigerians both juniors into the same company and he's also all teaching us. The same people were rejected by companies in Nigeria but na oyinbo man still come give them chance. Through his mentorship I have gone to work on projects that are used by billion dollar companies. Billion with a b o. As for political position, you can forget it. I will never ever contest to Be a politician in the zoo. I never even did my nysc after graduation so that disqualifies me and I don't give a Bleep.

There's really nothing Nigeria has given me I can say yes thank God I am a Nigerian. My university education wasn't even in Nigeria. As for working in Nigeria. I have only worked with a Nigerian company for two months and that was it the rest of my work has been with companies based abroad.

Secondary Citizen lol maybe for other professions not for programmers O. You don't know what is going on now. The tech industry is basically an employee's market now. This other countries I am talking about. Their salaries might not be USA level but they are ten times higher than Nigeria. I won't pay rent. Food will be given to me. This was stated explicitly at the interviews I have done so basically my salary will just be a pocket money. You can feel the desperation in their eyes even during interviews.

As for my family I really wish them well. The only thing I will do is build a house in Ghana for my mom and dad to stay in and bring my sister over immediately she graduates but as for Nigeria once I am done that's it. Even if I come to Africa to visit I will go to another African country and then the person who wants to see me will come there.

tensazangetsu20:

Na only web development. Trust me bros me I always do what I say. You can go and trace my posts from when I started learning programming here and was even creating threads asking for help on CSS. Those threads are still there. Even getting certified in salesforce. Someone here said that I won't achieve anything with it. The same salesforce is giving me interviews from large corporate firms from all over the world o.

PeaceJoyLove:


We really need to discuss. Bro, relax.

I sympathize with you and all. I feel same too. Nigeria is becoming harder, no doubt. But....hmmmmm!

Personally, I have a problem with the kinds of techs around. Some of them are used to launder money and we know this is true.

Also, all these investment techs...they are thieves. Really, I need to look into these new cases. Imagine some of these starts up, they start with something, and before you know it....they start promoting different investments which at the end are rubbish. I can count many of them just opening real estate and agro investments which are the top tools for scamming fo olish Nigerians. And they contract them out to illiterates in bushes. Many of them have squandered millions. Meanwhile, if they used all in the said businesses, fine...but they dont. They divert the money for their own enjoyment. If they use it for something tangible...fine...but they buy luxurious cars and you start seeing pictures on Instagram pages testifying to the goodness of God meanwhile, businesses are failing. Annoying part is they pay tithes from investment funds. Meaning they had made profit already... And they dont even protect themselves from been liable to paying back debts. Let's get it straight and not just blame government for everything.

We are the reasons forex and why govt releases terrible policies. Govt banned BDC, people cried they are not good. Meanwhile, it will have positive effect on someone like you. Yet, people who arent driving our economic positively are the ones always having upper hands.

Well, in a way...hmmm I see Nigeria going the Afghanistan route., but I keep praying against it. And the whole world knows if this happen, the whole of WEST africa is in trouble. Bro, rather than this to happen, the south will break. And if this happens, I swear, north will suffer. Is it Niger or the upper part that are able to team up with the north and flourish? But if the south breaks, just look at our partners - Benin, Togo, Ghana, Ivory Coast, etc. So, this thing is not only about govt only.

Corruption is what finished Afghanistan. Imagine the president there right under the nose of the Americans....according to Russians ran away with cars loaded with money and the chopper he used too was loaded. Just imagine this. It means the man had money at home anytime ready to take off. Corruption is the main issue.

So, look at the fintechs people are creating...invest this...invest that...bla bla bla. And cos they know about crypto, fx, etc...politicians use them to move out stolen loots too. Let us not close our eyes to these issues.

If you read me well, my stuff are towards making Nigeria better. There are start ups we can do. I still know we can do it.

Yes, I agree with you...anyone who wants to jakpa should. There is no thinking about it. Just Jakpa. But we can still save Nigeria.

richmanrichard:
which programming languages do you have? which one do you think one should learn as a pre-quesite first b4 learning others?

CSTRR:
@RedEnergy.

There is one Yoruba guy that produce python tutorial videos for freecodecamp on YouTube.

His YouTube handle is code with tomi.

That guy is a python lord.

tensazangetsu20:

Bros trust me once I leave this country I wilk never come back and I will lay a curse on my generations. Anyone who decides to come back to Africa will die immediately he lands in African country. I shall lay the curse naked. Walai and I also tell my children the same thing. Anyday they return to where I have struggled to escape from they will die.

There's really no job in Nigeria I can come for. Maybe before I became a programmer you can say so. But all the money I make from programming it's white men. Infact my present skillset and how good I am now was my boss that took me under his mentorship and taught me so much. He's a white man. I have brought In two young Nigerians both juniors into the same company and he's also all teaching us. The same people were rejected by companies in Nigeria but na oyinbo man still come give them chance. Through his mentorship I have gone to work on projects that are used by billion dollar companies. Billion with a b o. As for political position, you can forget it. I will never ever contest to Be a politician in the zoo. I never even did my nysc after graduation so that disqualifies me and I don't give a Bleep.

There's really nothing Nigeria has given me I can say yes thank God I am a Nigerian. My university education wasn't even in Nigeria. As for working in Nigeria. I have only worked with a Nigerian company for two months and that was it the rest of my work has been with companies based abroad.

Secondary Citizen lol maybe for other professions not for programmers O. You don't know what is going on now. The tech industry is basically an employee's market now. This other countries I am talking about. Their salaries might not be USA level but they are ten times higher than Nigeria. I won't pay rent. Food will be given to me. This was stated explicitly at the interviews I have done so basically my salary will just be a pocket money. You can feel the desperation in their eyes even during interviews.

As for my family I really wish them well. The only thing I will do is build a house in Ghana for my mom and dad to stay in and bring my sister over immediately she graduates but as for Nigeria once I am done that's it. Even if I come to Africa to visit I will go to another African country and then the person who wants to see me will come there.

tensazangetsu20:

It depends on what you want to do but I always advise web development. HTML, CSS and Javascript.

ShedrachU:


Lol, reading this I can sense depression.
You write childishly, read what you wrote again, so stup!d.

From your write up you said you will curse your generation and any of them who enter Africa will die immediately.

And from your last paragraph, you said even if you VISIT Africa it will be another country. THE SAME AFRICA..


ARE YOU NOT STUP!D LIKE THIS?
You are an Igbo no doubt, people like you will engage in drug trafficking once you enter one of those countries, stop deceiving those you can deceive with your disguise as a programmer.

RedEnergy:
Web development for me is HTML and Java. The possibilities with this 2 are endless and i found HTML codes quite easy to understand because of its similarities with python.

PeaceJoyLove:


A beg, let us not prophesy this. I know you are saying a possibility. I argued with my life that Nigerians can never offer themselves as suicide bombers around 2008 when we started hearing the rumor. But here we are today. However, we cannot afford to let this happen.

Instead of just talking, the little we can do, we can help Nigeria.

RedEnergy:
That's cool. Java is a must for me. My 3 main programming goals are Python, Java and C++. And honestly i can relate with the difficulty, especially when the valuable time i'm meant to use to develop and master my skills, i have to spend 90% of that time trying to survive in a country with a govt that's eager and determined to kill its citizens one way or another.

tensazangetsu20:

Oh yes that's why I tell people all the time to learn coding. Infact I have told gerrard59 that when God blesses me the only thing I will do for my homeland is opening a very huge IT centre with a ton of computers for my kinsmen to learn programming. Before I became a programmer I was a mechanic o. I was a mechanic and an auto parts trader with my engineering degree. No job anywhere. I went to volunteer at a mechanic workshop and learnt to fix cars. Left there and went back to ladipo. I was struggling day in day out yet no single Kobo. To even see a 100k in a month was like a huge amount after all expenses were done. It was hell. Even with all the skills I had. I knew digital marketing, how to fix cars yet nothing o. it was a very top guy in the Nigerian tech industry that told me to quit everything I was doing and learn coding. It wasn't easy but everyday I thank God I took that man's advise.

Infact the greatest thing that can lift Nigeria out of poverty now is programming but the greatest hindrance is a laptop and laptops aren't getting cheaper. the laptop I used to learn coding I got it for 75k the same laptop is being sold for at least 140k just in the span of a year.

tensazangetsu20:

HTML is markup. It is not similar to python at all.

PeaceJoyLove:


We really need to discuss. Bro, relax.

I sympathize with you and all. I feel same too. Nigeria is becoming harder, no doubt. But....hmmmmm!

Personally, I have a problem with the kinds of techs around. Some of them are used to launder money and we know this is true.

Also, all these investment techs...they are thieves. Really, I need to look into these new cases. Imagine some of these starts up, they start with something, and before you know it....they start promoting different investments which at the end are rubbish. I can count many of them just opening real estate and agro investments which are the top tools for scamming fo olish Nigerians. And they contract them out to illiterates in bushes. Many of them have squandered millions. Meanwhile, if they used all in the said businesses, fine...but they dont. They divert the money for their own enjoyment. If they use it for something tangible...fine...but they buy luxurious cars and you start seeing pictures on Instagram pages testifying to the goodness of God meanwhile, businesses are failing. Annoying part is they pay tithes from investment funds. Meaning they had made profit already... And they dont even protect themselves from been liable to paying back debts. Let's get it straight and not just blame government for everything.

We are the reasons forex and why govt releases terrible policies. Govt banned BDC, people cried they are not good. Meanwhile, it will have positive effect on someone like you. Yet, people who arent driving our economic positively are the ones always having upper hands.

Well, in a way...hmmm I see Nigeria going the Afghanistan route., but I keep praying against it. And the whole world knows if this happen, the whole of WEST africa is in trouble. Bro, rather than this to happen, the south will break. And if this happens, I swear, north will suffer. Is it Niger or the upper part that are able to team up with the north and flourish? But if the south breaks, just look at our partners - Benin, Togo, Ghana, Ivory Coast, etc. So, this thing is not only about govt only.

Corruption is what finished Afghanistan. Imagine the president there right under the nose of the Americans....according to Russians ran away with cars loaded with money and the chopper he used too was loaded. Just imagine this. It means the man had money at home anytime ready to take off. Corruption is the main issue.

So, look at the fintechs people are creating...invest this...invest that...bla bla bla. And cos they know about crypto, fx, etc...politicians use them to move out stolen loots too. Let us not close our eyes to these issues.

If you read me well, my stuff are towards making Nigeria better. There are start ups we can do. I still know we can do it.

Yes, I agree with you...anyone who wants to jakpa should. There is no thinking about it. Just Jakpa. But we can still save Nigeria.

tensazangetsu20:
Tech twitter has been on fire this past few days. First was the new startup law being passed that will see the government taking one percent of startup revenue especially fintechs and the second was the closure of accounts belonging to fintech companies like risevest, investbamboo, and trove. This is just 2 months after the crypto ban.

I predicted this will happen a few months back but some people as usual called me a pessimist. Now, this has happened. They came for gokada first citing stupid reasons yet okadas are still in Lagos driving anyhow. They blocked remittances and made it very difficult to receive money. If you work remotely in Nigeria for a foreign company, you can attest to how difficult it is to receive money. I know people who have lost their jobs just because the companies they work for could not figure out how they could pay them in Nigeria then add the epileptic electricity supply and the bad internet.

If you are a programmer, trust me you are amongst the elite. Walai every day I regret not discovering the tech industry earlier. There's a fucking huge demand for programmers outside the shores of Africa. Latin America, Europe, and Asia. A lot of people think japa and will be thinking USA and Canada. Getting a work visa to these countries as a Nigerian living in Nigeria is almost impossible. It has happened for some people but its not the norm and you should not place your hope on it. The USA has a cap on the amount of work visas that go out every year and those visas most times go to OPT candidates (people who have schooled in the US). Canada doesnt have a cap but they prefer permanent residents or citizens to processing a work visa from scratch for an outsider. Australia same thing.

There are other countries that exist that do not have a cap on work visas and are desperately looking for programmers. These countries can be used as a stepping stone to your final dream destination instead of wasting your life in Nigeria looking for a US or Canadian visa. Countries like portugal, spain, brazil, mexico, vietnam, japan, south korea. The list is endless. These are countries desperately looking for programmers and their work visas arent difficult to get. Their governments are even encouraging tech migration to prepare for the next industrial revolution. As a Nigerian you have a serious advantage getting there. You speak English. English is the unofficial defacto language of the IT industry. If you go on linkedin and search tech jobs in this countries, you would find out that one of the requirements for most of these jobs is professional english proficiency. Their citizens dont have it and a few who have it are headhunted to countries like the US and Canada leaving a huge gap for skilled third worlders like Nigerians to take advantage of. A japanese programmer who speaks english really well can get into the USA easily. Japan has a visa waiver program with the USA and is one of the few countries that shares a working holiday visa with the US. Brazil has one with germany. Uruguay has with sweden. These are countries you should target because their own people are leaving presenting a very huge gap. Once you can get into these countries, leaving to your dream destination isnt too difficult and even if you dont want to leave, these countries have a lot of opportunities for you to build your own tech business. Their governments are very progressive. Their people arent poor or getting poorer and are very open to using technology. Theres another way of getting to the US via L1 company transfer but how many american tech companies exist in Nigeria and whats the size of the engineering team? These countries have as much 2000 to 3000 size engineering teams. You can move there, switch jobs to an american company and request for an L1 company transfer. The possibilities are limitless.

I myself started testing this theory out and I have gotten ten interviews from companies in Ukraine, Poland, Belarus, Vietnam, and Chile. I am in the mid way of 3 and I really hope one goes through as I want to leave the zoo fast.

You might say stay in Nigeria and start a tech business. Well with what the government is doing to startups and the purchasing power of Nigerians reducing everyday, I dont know how that would be viable. NIgeria is so bad to the point that to eat food is a problem. Growing up, Nigeria was never at a level where food will be a problem. Festival periods and we would have food from all our neighbours even the poorest. Now thas not done and the worst is yet to come.

You can say stay in Nigeria and continue remote. Trust me remote work is sweet in your 20s but a sponsorship job is better as you would be provided insurance for, pension plans and all of that which remote work wont give you and remote jobs arent stable especially with small companies. You can lose them anytime and you need to start looking again. Its not bad in your 20s but will you be doing this at 40 and above. Will you be applying to remote jobs at 50 when your mates who migrated are CTOs for fortune 500 companies earning millions of dollars every year while you are looking for scraps in remote.

Make haste o.

PeaceJoyLove:


We really need to discuss. Bro, relax.

I sympathize with you and all. I feel same too. Nigeria is becoming harder, no doubt. But....hmmmmm!

Personally, I have a problem with the kinds of techs around. Some of them are used to launder money and we know this is true.

Also, all these investment techs...they are thieves. Really, I need to look into these new cases. Imagine some of these starts up, they start with something, and before you know it....they start promoting different investments which at the end are rubbish. I can count many of them just opening real estate and agro investments which are the top tools for scamming fo olish Nigerians. And they contract them out to illiterates in bushes. Many of them have squandered millions. Meanwhile, if they used all in the said businesses, fine...but they dont. They divert the money for their own enjoyment. If they use it for something tangible...fine...but they buy luxurious cars and you start seeing pictures on Instagram pages testifying to the goodness of God meanwhile, businesses are failing. Annoying part is they pay tithes from investment funds. Meaning they had made profit already... And they dont even protect themselves from been liable to paying back debts. Let's get it straight and not just blame government for everything.

We are the reasons forex and why govt releases terrible policies. Govt banned BDC, people cried they are not good. Meanwhile, it will have positive effect on someone like you. Yet, people who arent driving our economic positively are the ones always having upper hands.

Well, in a way...hmmm I see Nigeria going the Afghanistan route., but I keep praying against it. And the whole world knows if this happen, the whole of WEST africa is in trouble. Bro, rather than this to happen, the south will break. And if this happens, I swear, north will suffer. Is it Niger or the upper part that are able to team up with the north and flourish? But if the south breaks, just look at our partners - Benin, Togo, Ghana, Ivory Coast, etc. So, this thing is not only about govt only.

Corruption is what finished Afghanistan. Imagine the president there right under the nose of the Americans....according to Russians ran away with cars loaded with money and the chopper he used too was loaded. Just imagine this. It means the man had money at home anytime ready to take off. Corruption is the main issue.

So, look at the fintechs people are creating...invest this...invest that...bla bla bla. And cos they know about crypto, fx, etc...politicians use them to move out stolen loots too. Let us not close our eyes to these issues.


If you read me well, my stuff are towards making Nigeria better. There are start ups we can do. I still know we can do it.

Yes, I agree with you...anyone who wants to jakpa should. There is no thinking about it. Just Jakpa. But we can still save Nigeria.

tensazangetsu20:

It depends on what you want to do but I always advise web development. HTML, CSS and Javascript.