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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:58pm On Aug 19, 2021
n3xt:
@sonnie10

I’ve collected my okada riders permit o. When am I getting the okada?

cool

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 10:00pm On Aug 19, 2021
Barrmary:
Bosses please help me and access this quotation i got from an electrician for only the ground floor of a 2bedroom and 3bedroom flat in a 2-storey building.

Please I would need all advices on the type of good wiring to use for steps to follow when wiring a building because I believe wiring is one of the most important aspect of any building.

It's a rented flat but i would need good wires to buy that would last very long with good durability.

He said the Labour charge is negotiable and the cost of the pipe is the bendable one for conduit, he said the boxes can stand the test of time and the distribution box is the second grade.

Please I need your inputs on this!!!!

We recently discussed cables on here. One of the premier builders here @Spyder880 swears by Cutix and I’ll try it on my next project but I use Coleman.

Good luck on your project.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 10:03pm On Aug 19, 2021
Ralphlauren:
Please can someone recommend companies in lagos that I can order quality stone coated roofing sheets from?

I'll really appreciate if someone can list the names of these companies.

Thank you

@Money121

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 10:04pm On Aug 19, 2021
For your pop designs and installations call us

https://www.nairaland.com/6564561/pop-design-tv-wall-installation/24

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 10:07pm On Aug 19, 2021
Barrmary:
Bosses please help me and access this quotation i got from an electrician for only the ground floor of a 2bedroom and 3bedroom flat in a 2-storey building.

Please I would need all advices on the type of good wiring to use for steps to follow when wiring a building because I believe wiring is one of the most important aspect of any building.

It's a rented flat but i would need good wires to buy that would last very long with good durability.

He said the Labour charge is negotiable and the cost of the pipe is the bendable one for conduit, he said the boxes can stand the test of time and the distribution box is the second grade.


Please I need your inputs on this!!!!

The price of the pipes looks like niger pipe. I guess this is not Lagos,

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by guzbit(m): 10:11pm On Aug 19, 2021
Ralphlauren:
Please can someone recommend companies in lagos that I can order quality stone coated roofing sheets from?

I'll really appreciate if someone can list the names of these companies.

Thank you
call or WhatsApp 08091163061
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by money121(m): 10:12pm On Aug 19, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


@Money121
Thanks so much sir

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by money121(m): 10:15pm On Aug 19, 2021
Ralphlauren:
Please can someone recommend companies in lagos that I can order quality stone coated roofing sheets from?

I'll really appreciate if someone can list the names of these companies.

Thank you

Call/Whatsapp 08085310359

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Barrmary: 10:53pm On Aug 19, 2021
twinskenny:



please which state is this?

the prices of each of the item are high... and the quantity too

original diginity 20mm pipe is around 12/13k lagos.. (though might be different from other state)

the 3x3 knock out is still around 1300 same with the 3x6 boxes

the labour is high too

good luck


Thanks for the response, it’s in Portharcourt

Please any recommendations for reliable electrical wire sellers in Lagos or Onitsha or any other place ?

What amount can I negotiate for the Labour?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Barrmary: 10:56pm On Aug 19, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


We recently discussed cables on here. One of the premier builders here swears by Cutix and I’ll try it on my next project but I use Coleman.

Good luck on your project.

Thanks for your response

I asked him about Cutix and he said (it’s very expensive and We have other quality wires of reduced price, Cutix has gotten competitor with good quality But if u are ready for cutix we can go for it) according to the Electrician
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Barrmary: 10:57pm On Aug 19, 2021
topsy23:


The price of the pipes looks like niger pipe. I guess this is not Lagos,


It’s in Portharcourt
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by InvertedHammer: 11:19pm On Aug 19, 2021
gbadexy:

I am not understanding what you posted sir. Where did the 54m come from.
I think my calculation underquoted rather than almost double the quote.
The area is in sqm.
Even an experienced contractor is infallible and learns everyday.
I send my painters and screeders to take measurements and whenever I go to site which isn't often, I give quote based on experience on what such area would require.

More knowledgeable person has given clarification and I have noted it.
I would still like to learn how the measurement I gave was double the quotation sir.
/
Ft x ft = sq.ft

Without going into much details, convert sq.ft to sq.m

@ next:

Who would have figured it is the total area if he didn’t specify it? Area of the wall which represents a rectangle/square still remains L x W which he did in ft and converted to sqm. His calculation as shown is wrong.

This kind of magical calculation seems to always show up during roofing and tiling: The same house, same roof but 3 different total areas measured by 3 different roofers. Go figure!

/
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by RockOfAgesAlumi(m): 11:23pm On Aug 19, 2021
Temi1:
Good people, please help me evaluate this quote for frameless transom windows. The rate per window looks really alarming! I am tempted to go for normal casement windows, just that the quote for that too is not very different from this.
Good evening boss
What exactly help you want us to do sir
Frameless window with burglary and net
Or
Casement windows with burglary and net
Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by aakibu(m): 12:54am On Aug 20, 2021
Good morning people.
A quality roofing for your houses and estates not only brings out the beauty in your house but also protects from the harsh element of nature.
Get concrete roof tiles for your next roofing project and enjoy the best of aesthetics and excellent protection from harsh weather.
Benefits include cooler house due to its ability to reflect sunlight (making cost of air conditioning lower) and also excellent protection against saline water (like those of places close to the sea, like Lagos). Its also requires lower maintenance over its entire course of life compared to toher roofing types.
Give it a try today and you will not regret it!
08073577506 is the number to call/whatsapp

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 1:24am On Aug 20, 2021
InvertedHammer:

/
Ft x ft = sq.ft

Without going into much details, convert sq.ft to sq.m

@ next:

Who would have figured it is the total area if he didn’t specify it? Area of the wall which represents a rectangle/square still remains L x W which he did in ft and converted to sqm. His calculation as shown is wrong.

This kind of magical calculation seems to always show up during roofing and tiling: The same house, same roof but 3 different total areas measured by 3 different roofers. Go figure!

/
It's disappointing to think I used to think you were amongst the old timers that contributed well here for lack of any less appropriate words to use.
You have actually said nothing in your response.
The question was not about converting to sqm or if the area was for floor or total surface of the room. You should have known from the basic elementary mathematics that 12 ft by 12 ft couldn't give the 19.5 sqm I gave.
I couldn't decide if you wanted to accuse me of incompetence or outright fraud of inflating quotation for unsuspecting clients. I know this moniker used to be more coherent. I would want to believe the account was hacked.
In as much as vendors are expected to be courteous and civil at all times, it is also expected of a gentleman to accept when he is wrong and apologize.
The person you quoted was also wrong.
Some folks are just waiting for an opportunity for some unfortunate scandal to happen and quickly label people fraud and shout I thought I told you so. All such people will surely wait in vain and be disappointed by God's grace.
False accusation and slander of character is not something to be taken lightly.
I wanted to overbill unsuspecting clients and I posted prices and figures on the thread openly where it can be challenged!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 1:39am On Aug 20, 2021
In other news, in a bid to give premium finish to houses, I've invested in tools as advised severally for business owners by our erudite contributors here.
We can apply primer to smoothen a plaster surface with electric paint spraying machine.
We have electric wall sanders to give smooth finish and we apply premium emulsion, matte and satin with spraying machines to give a very smooth finish that only spraying could give.
Here is a link to the thread with the facebook link to the video demonstration:

https://www.nairaland.com/6710667/spray-application-primer-wall-paints

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by yungmin: 2:01am On Aug 20, 2021
gbadexy:

I'm not a tiler. It's apparent he asked me the area for painting, so he would expect a total surface area and not floor area from me.
I think coldcandy and next already answered it correctly.

Now I understand. I missed the initial conversation. You were actually right to make your assumptions.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 2:54am On Aug 20, 2021
sonnie10:


Context is very important in any discussion
Words on marble.
Regarding the calculations dissuasion, these words can’t be more true.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:57am On Aug 20, 2021
yungmin:


Now I understand. I missed the initial conversation. You were actually right to make your assumptions.

That was so gentlemen.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:02am On Aug 20, 2021
topsy23:


...she said she will like to know me that there is position waiting for the engineer in Alausa. I laughed even my MD face changed as if the woman has given me employment letter .

We got the job ooo but salary did not increase ooooo.... But I enjoyed my work especially when it comes to high rise building

I don’t usually expect huge salary from a job that offer me experience.

You’re able to standout from your peers because of your experience.

__________

Do engineers prepare bill? Yes!

Can Engineers do the work of a QS? Yes!

Can a QS do the work of an engineer? No!

Can either of them function independently? No! You still need an engineer to validate a QS quote. Moreso, a QS can’t work without an engineering design or technical reference.

__________

How do I know?

Scenario 1
In my mid-20s, I was trained as a sales engineer by my company - an enviable position that made me a moving powerhouse in the office.
My job description includes but not limited to the following:

- carrying out site surveys and preliminary investigations
- establishing new, and maintaining existing, relationships with customers
- capturing and interpreting customer requirements
- calculating client quotations
- negotiating tender and contract terms
- negotiating and closing deals
- offering after-sales support services
- preparing reports and documentations
- making technical presentations and demonstrating how a product will meet client needs
- providing training and support material for the sales team

We close deals on-the-go. When I say deals, I mean juicy deals.

____________

Scenario 2
About the same time, I served as a member of government board in one of the river basin projects.

Engineers prepare the bills for our dam and irrigation projects.

____________

For those claiming BEME is illegal, I think they’re saying this from a limited POV.

It’s not every engineering materials that we can pick from Orile or Dopemu.

I’ve done a window on this platform that requires more technical details than the usual.

If we’re talking basic civil construction, maybe a QS can work independently but definitely not on complex engineering projects.

____________

Can a QS calculate the cost of providing support and documentation on some of my technical projects?

I’m talking about the cost of developing SLAs, AUPs, SOW etc documents.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:57am On Aug 20, 2021
erico2k2:

I like this piping

#MeToo
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:10am On Aug 20, 2021
sonnie10:

Words on marble.
Regarding the calculations dissuasion, these words can’t be more true.

It’s all about perspective.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 5:21am On Aug 20, 2021
n3xt:


It’s all about perspective.

Yes. Another way to look at it.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 6:42am On Aug 20, 2021
gbadexy:

It's disappointing to think I used to think you are amongst the old timers that contributed well here for lack of any less appropriate words to use.
You have actually said nothing in your response.
The question was not about converting to sqm or if the area was for floor or total surface of the room. You should have known from the basic elementary mathematics that 12 ft by 12 ft couldn't give the 19.5 sqm I gave.
I couldn't decide if you wanted to accuse me of incompetence or outright fraud of inflating quotation for unsuspecting clients. I know this moniker used to be more coherent. I would want to believe the account was hacked.
In as much as vendors are expected to be courteous and civil at all times, it is also expected of a gentleman to accept when he is wrong and apologize.
The person you quoted was also wrong.
Some folks are just waiting for an opportunity for some unfortunate scandal to happen and quickly label people fraud and shout I thought I told you so. All such people will surely wait in vain and be disappointed by God's grace.
False accusation and slander of character is not something to be taken lightly.
I wanted to overbill unsuspecting clients and I posted prices and figures on the thread openly where it can be challenged!


Say no more Chief.
Smackdown Lele yi

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:16am On Aug 20, 2021

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:19am On Aug 20, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


cool

You think him no go do am? I think him go do am. grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 7:42am On Aug 20, 2021
n3xt:


You think him no go do am? I think him go do am. grin grin

Well, with global warming, hell might just freeze over grin

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 8:03am On Aug 20, 2021
Video door bell and Cctv done for this building

Thanks Engr Aventure for the Referer God bless you sir

https://www.nairaland.com/5681155/electrical-audio-system-cctv-fire/109#104983238

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Temi1(m): 8:03am On Aug 20, 2021
Thanks bro. I need your help to evaluate this quote. What do you think of 75k for 1000x1900 frameless window with burglary and net. As an alternative, the window guy also quoted 69k for casement windows of the same size with burglary and net. I'm weighing my options and also wondering if these quotes are not too high?

RockOfAgesAlumi:

Good evening boss
What exactly help you want us to do sir
Frameless window with burglary and net
Or
Casement windows with burglary and net
Thanks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 9:00am On Aug 20, 2021
My final note on the QS and engineers rivalry as regards costing of some engineering developments.

First of all, I raised this issue so that clients and citizens can be aware of the current situation of things between the two professions. Both engineers and QS already know this since time immemorial.

The role of QS is non disputable in the building construction industry. The resistance QS is facing is in other areas of engineering developments that I've already highlighted in most of my previous posts.

The goal of specialisation and development of a profession transcends earning a living from it, rather, it's a means towards national development - which should be the focus of any well meaning citizen.

Nigeria is currently a developing country and with lots of infrastructure gaps to be put in place to meet her teeming populations. As of now, Nigeria cannot boast of steady and uninterrupted power supply, homegrown automobile industry, homegrown advanced and mechanized crop production for food security, sustainable and cost effective road construction technology, inadequate railing system and myriads of other infrastructure problems. In a nutshell, Nigeria is bedeviled with unsolved engineering problems. Compared to medical profession in Nigeria, home trained doctors, pharmacists, nurses, medical laboratory scientists and other related health workers have been fully managing the health of Nigerians since time immemorial. In Nigeria of today, the engineering profession is the most proliferated by expatriates just to fill the vacuum of technical know how that our home trained engineers are lacking. What a pity!

Come to think of it, I see no serious researches in this area by our all knowing engineers to solve these problems to make life easy for a common man. Please do not get me started on lack of funding or political will to meet these challenges. In Nigeria tertiary institutions, there are lots of professors of engineering in virtually all fields of engineering practised in this country. You begin to wonder, what novel innovations have earned them this highly prestigious academic status without corresponding research outputs for national developments. These scholars are highly funded through TETFUND, grants etc. The point I am making here is that the vast numerous engineering problems in the country are so great that the engineering body in the country should rather be too busy finding lasting solutions to them rather than encroaching into other professions. QS is not the only body having problems with them. So also is Estate Surveyors and Valuers who are contending with engineers on valuation of plants, machinery and other engineering developments for whatever purpose.

To my audience, the matter between the engineers and QS as regards costing of engineering works is already subjudice (the case is already in court) so that the court can interpret the act of the National Assembly establishing the two professions. You know in law, you cannot argue a case in public that is already ongoing in court. I only brought it up here for educational purpose.

May Nigeria win all her battles.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 9:13am On Aug 20, 2021
Barrmary:



Thanks for the response, it’s in Portharcourt

Please any recommendations for reliable electrical wire sellers in Lagos or Onitsha or any other place ?

What amount can I negotiate for the Labour?
for cable in lagos contact topsy23

Coleman is the best around here
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by yungmin: 9:44am On Aug 20, 2021
QSFemi:
My final note on the QS and engineers rivalry as regards costing of some engineering developments.

First of all, I raised this issue so that clients and citizens can be aware of the current situation of things between the two professions. Both engineers and QS already know this since time immemorial.

The role of QS is non disputable in the building construction industry. The resistance QS is facing is in other areas of engineering developments that I've already highlighted in most of my previous posts.

The goal of specialisation and development of a profession transcends earning a living from it, rather, it's a means towards national development - which should be the focus of any well meaning citizen.

Nigeria is currently a developing country and with lots of infrastructure gaps to be put in place to meet her teeming populations. As of now, Nigeria cannot boast of steady and uninterrupted power supply, homegrown automobile industry, homegrown advanced and mechanized crop production for food security, sustainable and cost effective road construction technology, inadequate railing system and myriads of other infrastructure problems. In a nutshell, Nigeria is bedeviled with unsolved engineering problems. Compared to medical profession in Nigeria, home trained doctors, pharmacists, nurses, medical laboratory scientists and other related health workers have been fully managing the health of Nigerians since time immemorial. In Nigeria of today, the engineering profession is the most proliferated by expatriates just to fill the vacuum of technical know how that our home trained engineers are lacking. What a pity!

Come to think of it, I see no serious researches in this area by our all knowing engineers to solve these problems to make life easy for a common man. Please do not get me started on lack of funding or political will to meet these challenges. In Nigeria tertiary institutions, there are lots of professors of engineering in virtually all fields of engineering practised in this country. You begin to wonder, what novel innovations have earned them this highly prestigious academic status without corresponding research outputs for national developments. These scholars are highly funded through TETFUND, grants etc. The point I am making here is that the vast numerous engineering problems in the country are so great that the engineering body in the country should rather be too busy finding lasting solutions to them rather than encroaching into other professions. QS is not the only body having problems with them. So also is Estate Surveyors and Valuers who are contending with engineers on valuation of plants, machinery and other engineering developments for whatever purpose.

To my audience, the matter between the engineers and QS as regards costing of engineering works is already subjudice (the case is already in court) so that the court can interpret the act of the National Assembly establishing the two professions. You know in law, you cannot argue a case in public that is already ongoing in court. I only brought it up here for educational purpose.

May Nigeria win all her battles.

This guy! You talk with very limited knowledge and you really should stop! I didn't know of any rivalry between engineers and QS until seeing you display it here. And your comparison of Nigeria healthcare workers and engineers is uncalled-for and probably deliberate to bring another unnecessary argument. I would ignore you because you further display ignorance.

The engineering profession is so broad that engineers while busy getting proficient in one area do not have the time for this your artificial rivalry you mentione. For example, as a civil engineer, you can't even boast of practicing structures (let's say only building) and also be proficient in infrastructure. So how one person would come here and be talking about rivalry is just strange. You should take a chill pill.

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