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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:54pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
CapitalCee: You people should 1) stop mixing arguments 2) stop typing in hyperbole. I responded to his singular statement that Rodri was not better than McTominay as a DM when practically every evidence we have of McTominay is playing as a CM and as a box to box player. As a DM Rodri is better than McTominay. If we support our arguments with solid points it would be more difficult to poke holes in them. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 4:54pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
GloryIsaac: Holding the Fort is doing what Bruno does. He should not be playing every game sef. Meanwhile winning the league is a function of the manager right now, we have a very good squad. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:59pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
Lingard literally went into depression because he couldn’t play Bruno’s role. VDB has been tried there, tears. Paul Pogba (the World Cup winner) has been tried there, tears too ![]() Well, hope Bruno doesn’t slow down sha, so we can finally win this league. Get in Kalvin Philips for that DM role. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 5:00pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
CapitalCee: There was a huge gulf until we signed Sancho and Varane. The midfield is where we’re really thin compared to city. Thing is they have quality attacking players who will deputize perfectly in midfield without the team suffering in attacking positions. If we drop Bruno to CM- he can do a very good job there, he will be missed in AM. If B. Silva drops to CM, Mahrez will handle LWF perfectly. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 5:00pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
patrickmuf: No mind them. City doesn't have a larger squad the evidence is there. Last week they struggled without KDB, Pep is already crying due to the injury to KDB, all these Bruno fear is nonsense |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 5:01pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
TheLequte: Haaland is 20 we signed Sanchez at 29 not the same |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 5:03pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
GloryIsaac: Bruno won't slow down if we find a way to manage him. He shouldn't play FA cup or league cup. And definitely shouldn't be playing 90 minutes every league game. One part of me believes Ole wants his players to top the stats charts(goals and assists). That's why he'll keep using them. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 5:03pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
patrickmuf: They get aggressive whenever you point the obvious to them, same way Chelsea fans were defending Lampard, saying that Rudiger, Alonso, Werner, even Kante were all finished until Tuchel came. A team with Varane, Maguire and Shaw as part of Back four tell me any team in the world with such quality? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 5:05pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
ChristoBam: Thabk you. And a good manager will eke out 10/15 impactful EPL games from Matic, even 5/8 from Mata. Thats how quality managers use their squad, go and check Fergie teams |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 5:08pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
TheLequte: We dont need to drop Bruno to CM, there is Pogba, VDB and any of McFred, why will we need to drop our attacking players to CDM? Like you said now Varane and Sancho are in now to bridge the gap, City doesn't have a huge depth more than us, thats the truth. Infact we are more studded with quality in some positions |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 5:11pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 5:12pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:13pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
TheLequte:Okay, I'll do... Goal Keepers... Manchester United - De Gea, Henderson, Heaton City - Ederson, Steffen Verdict - I think it's a par, although we have better quality sub... Defense... Right back options Manchester United - Wan-Bissaka, Dalot City - Walker, Cancelo... Verdict - City is clearly better here... RCB - Manchester United - Varane, Lindelof City - Stones, Dias Verdict - Manchester United edges them out as Dias plays mostly from the left and Stones is not better than Varane... LCB; Manchester United - Maguire, Bailly City - Dias, Laporte Verdict - Nothing to choose from here, Maguire is always available and his solid much like Dias...Laporte is better option from the bench though. Left back; Manchester United - Shaw, Telles City - Zichenko, Mendy Verdict - Manchester United are clearly better here... Defensive Midfield; Manchester United - Matic, McTominay City - Fernandinho, Rdodri Verdict - City arguably edges things out here, Matic cancels out Fernandinho whilst Rodri and McTominay are good in their own ways depending on the style of play of each team...As I said, it's arguable but let's give it to City... Center Midfield; Manchester United - Pogba, Fred, VDB City - Gundogan, Rodri, KDB Verdict - Manchester United edges it here as they have the players better suited to the role... AMF Manchester United - Bruno, Pogba, VDB, Mata Manchester City - KDB, Grealish, B. Silva, Gundogan, Foden Verdict - Availability plays a crucial role here, Bruno is almost always available compared to KDB and his numbers speaks so, I'd look at the other options and think it's a par, Pogba is more than capable of slotting into the role too just as City have Grealish... LWF Manchester United - Rashford, Martial, Sancho, James City - Sterling, Torres, Grealish, Foden Verdict - Both sides have the quality and numbers thus it is difficult to choose which is superior... RWF Manchester United - Sancho, Greenwood, Rashford, James... Manchester City - Mahrez, Silva, Sterling, Foden Verdict - Again, both sides are loaded with quality and numbers here, difficult to choose... CF Manchester United - Cavani, Greenwood, Martial, Rashford City - Jesus, Torres, Sterling Verdict - Manchester United edges it here... Combined team... Goal keeper - De Gea/Ederson LB - Wallker/Cancelo RCB - Varane LCB - Maguire/Dias LB - Shaw DM - Rodri CM - Pogba AM - Bruno/KDB LWF - Rashford/Grealish CF - Cavani RWF - Sancho/Mahrez Both teams are loaded with quality players, in my opinion, the difference swill come down to the ingenuity of the respective managers and how lucky they are with injuries... If you think otherwise, let's read your take... Cc: Afrodoc2 CapitalCee GloryIsaac melodyogonna nitrogen and others... 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:16pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
afrodoc2:Rodri is better at recycling possession but I am dead sure than he isn't better at tackling than McTominay... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 5:28pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
patrickmuf:Try dey take break. No be every thing be argument So as a coach needing a DM, and the only options are McT and Rodri you'll choose McT? 5 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 5:32pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
patrickmuf: I dont think Pogba/Fred/VDB edges out Gundogan,/Rodri,/KDB in CM for me the reverse is the case. City also better in GK dept because Ederson is better than all Utd keeper and GKs are rarely unavailable. Every other thing i agree. Although your pairings did not clearly show how star studded man utd are in attack |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 5:32pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
afrodoc2:Didn't even see this. How will any one who watches football make such a statement... McT better than Rodri yet all of us including Patrick is asking for a DM this transfer window. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 5:33pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
ChristoBam: That’s madness. He should not overplay his players just because he wants them to top charts. That’s actually counter intuitive. Bruno shouldn’t be playing Carabao cup until maybe final. Shaw too. Maguire. Cavani too. With the squad he’s got now doing so is madness. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:34pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
patrickmuf: Last season in the EPL: Rodri 2.1 tackles per game McTominay 1.6 tackles per game Meanwhile Whoscored rated both of them as strong in tackling. Last season in the EPL: Rodri 81 passes a game with 91% pass accuracy McTominay 37 passes per game with 81% pass accuracy. Are you dead sure or dead wrong ![]() So their recent tackling stats are similar (with Rodri edging it) and in terms of passing Rodri flogs McTominay and all his generations. Rodri is a better DM than McTominay, you need to drop this erroneous point of view that the facts don't back up. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 5:35pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
CapitalCee:Rodri is a top player in all ramifications as long as the DM position is concerned. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 5:36pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
nitrogen:Rodri was bought from Simeone's team. He has tasted both sides and excelled in both systems. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:37pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
ChristoBam: I share the same perspective on his game time in cup matches. He should be restricted to the league and UCL games. Others should be able to get by in FA Cup and Carabao, till the semis and finals maybe. I see it more as Olé generally having an issue with trusting his bench squad. Something he needs to work on. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 5:38pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
afrodoc2:I seriously feel it's another Rodri these guys are talking about. Cos I don't get |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:39pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
afrodoc2: Thank God. Been wondering how to start digging up points to prove what should be clear to anyone who watches United and City games. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:40pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
chidexxy007: Anything to claim that we have better players. Siddon look mode activated. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:43pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
CapitalCee: From which Mata? ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 5:44pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
patrickmuf: This makes sense. Both teams are on the same level bar the coaching team. There is no excuse this season. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 5:45pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
GloryIsaac: Only United player with 4 assists Show some rekspet ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:45pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:48pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
afrodoc2:McTominay will have a higher tackles per game ratio if his responsibility was shared...We saw how he fared in the UEL final when deployed alone... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 5:48pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
afrodoc2: Doc, what about Rodri vs Fred? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 5:50pm On Aug 21, 2021 |
CapitalCee: Patrickmuf didn’t get what I was asking him to do. The talk is about squad depth, he only presented a starting XI. This submission says nothing about squad depth. No sane coach will refuse to rotate his team with quality bench options staring him in the face. Unless he’s a dunce. I’ll get my laptop and give an example. |
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