benalvino3:


Ibime loves British racist but hates US racist

UK racists are not racists to ibime, Its US racists that are racists

Imagine if it was a US senator who said that we will be hearing about how racist they are

Ibime:

You are the one with emphasis on immigration.
Wetin consign you?
Taking panadol for another man's headache.

Why does the left promote immigration to the point of it being a human right? Come on man. Answer honestly.

raumdeuter:


Steve Miller wanted to block refugees from Afghan just like the UK conservative guy wanted to block Afghan refugees

Stop talking rubbish. The UK guy wanted those on the flight processed due to the rushed nature of their departure to ensure no ISIS infiltration. Stephen Miller arbitrarily cancelled VISA applications for allies for no other reason than racism even under a processed environment. Big difference.

You can read about UK resettlement scheme for Afghan allies here

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9286/

benalvino3:


Edi287 you got a lot to learn bro. Thomas Sowell is a legend and he got the experience to show teach you that handouts never get you anywhere. Same with Larry elder. Listen to his policy vs his openent and reason on it to deduce the ones that actually makes sense. Larry elder was called a white Supremacist and that alone should make you question how democrats vilify their openent.

I have Thomas Sowell books. I've known about him since high school. Mostly agree with him on economic issues...I just don't think social safety nets aimed at kids and the elderly are "handouts".
Its also a bit weird to suggest the "free market" will help combat racism.
I've already said Newsom is a slowpoke and the bolded is an example of it. I don't like Larry Elder but I'd never say something that stupid.

basilico:


Why does the left promote immigration to the point of it being a human right?
Come on man. Answer honestly.

They don't. The right dog-whistle immigrants with the agenda of spreading fear and hatred, something that comes across in your unhinged posts - a black man writing about fear of inter-racial marriage. Spits.

Obama was the most prolific president at deportations. He went about it quietly and efficiently without causing hatred or any group to be offended. That's what responsible leaders do, not make a good percentage of their citizens feel hated.

Ibime:


They don't. The right dog-whistle immigrants with the agenda of spreading fear and hatred, something that comes across in your unhinged posts - a black man writing about fear of inter-racial marriage. Spits.

Obama was the most prolific president at deportations. He went about it quietly and efficiently without causing hatred or any group to be offended. That's what responsible leaders do, not make a good percentage of their citizens feel hated.

They never get tired of this "all Liberals want open borders to aid the browning of America" talk.

Ibime:


They don't. The right dog-whistle immigrants with the agenda of spreading fear and hatred, something that comes across in your unhinged posts - a black man writing about fear of inter-racial marriage. Spits.

Obama was the most prolific president at deportations. He went about it quietly and efficiently without causing hatred or any group to be offended. That's what responsible leaders do, not make a good percentage of their citizens feel hated.

That's for illegal immigrants.
We would be correct that he increased green card Visas and non immigrant visas?

Any body that says Trump was a terrible President after seeing what's going on lately under Biden is Jess than human excrement.

edi287:

I have Thomas Sowell books. I've known about him since high school. Mostly agree with him on economic issues...I just don't think social safety nets aimed at kids and the elderly are "handouts".
Its also a bit weird to suggest the "free market" will help combat racism.
I've already said Newsom is a slowpoke and the bolded is an example of it. I don't like Larry Elder but I'd never say something that stupid.

Don't you think you got yourself in a situation where trying to see through the lens of Sowell is a bit hard for you?

The guys was a Marxist and they talk mainly from experience and hardship they face during Jim Crow. They know what family was to a black man before now.

Also could you compare but Larry's talking points or policies to Newsome and see which one makes sense.

basilico:


That's for illegal immigrants.
We would be correct that he increased green card Visas and non immigrant visas?

You dey vex because you no fit get Green card or non-immigrant visa?

When you have something to offer the country, you will get VISA. That's how Raumdeuter went to Yankee.

We have vacancies and Visas for truck drivers, nurses and doctors in UK incase you are looking to re-skill.

Ibime:


You are the one with emphasis on immigration.

Wetin consign you?

Taking panadol for another man's headache.

Crab mentality. It's even worse for them because those coming in are Muslims. It's like a dagger to their heart.

The hate, anger and envy nor be here.

ono:


Excellent point - this is what the Obama Administration wanted. Remember what basilico said earlier: Obama wanted the US powers weakened considerably. Myopic people who can't see this, especially those who are power-drunk and who want to sit tight in their roles in US government - including crazy Nancy, Schumer and of course, the rigged -in commander in thief- Sick Old Joe are so clueless, they don't know what they are doing!

We have a catastrophe of epic proportion waiting to happen to the Western World generally. The West as we know it, the bastion of democracy, progress and God-fearing people is gradually being chipped away with sledge-hammer policies, betrayals and internal-hate for all that's good. At the forefront of these evil and devil-incarnates are demonrats in all the Western Countries of the world (US, Canada, European countries) - sponsored by socialists and well-funded big tech companies.

God save us. The end is near.

The British Parliament says it loud and clear.
Biden is Obama 3.0 on steroids.


Several top-level UK government officials have slammed President Joe Biden’s gross imcomptence in Afghanistan, warning he “may have condemned the world to Chinese domination in the future.”



Biden was widely criticized as British Parliament convened to discuss the deepening crisis that’s continuing to unfold in Afghanistan.

Members in the House of Lords blasted Biden for handing the country over to the Taliban with his botched withdrawal.

Lords noted how the Taliban is now the most heavily-armed terrorist group in the world after they seized billions of dollars worth of U.S. military equipment that was abandoned under Biden’s watch.

UK leaders blamed Biden for the dire situation and shamed him for attempting to deflect the blame onto others, including the Afghan military and President Trump.

They are unhappy that the US left Afghanistan the way they did and have posted links from CNN and other left leaning MSM to buttress how women, men and kids are going to suffer in Afghanistan. They suddenly developed love for Afghan Muslims.

Now that the Afghan women, men and kids are being moved to developed countries to ensure their safety, they are angry

Ibime:


You dey vex because you no fit get Green card or non-immigrant visa?

When you have something to offer the country, you will get VISA. That's how Raumdeuter went to Yankee.

We have vacancies and Visas for truck drivers, nurses and doctors in UK incase you are looking to re-skill.

Stick to topic leave the sideshows. Why is immigration a human right sort of for the Left.
in Europe and Americas.

basilico:


Just to be fair. I have accused Hillary of some unsavoury things. Instead of proving me wrong you accuse me of being a conspiracy theorist.
Dig up what I've written and prove me wrong.

That will only take 20-30 minutes off your BB Naija me-time.

I won't waste my time on you trying to prove you wrong because your point of discussion is very irrelevant to my earlier post and is of no importance to me.

It doesn't change the fact that Hillary Clinton did great for women in Afghanistan wasting my time countering you is of no importance to me because it is not the subject of my discussion.
You are actually a conspiracy theorist which is very very true you are still hoping on a sham Arizona fraudit with bamboo leaves from China or so

When I am not watching BBNaija I use my time for better things not wasting my time trying to prove basilico wrong

salford:
They are unhappy that the US left Afghanistan the way they did and have posted links from CNN and other left leaning MSM to buttress how women, men and kids are going to suffer in Afghanistan. They suddenly developed love for Afghan Muslims.

Now that the Afghan women, men and kids are being moved to developed countries to ensure their safety, they are angry

Anything for cheap political points.
They want Biden to take the blame but will cry wolf when western nations take in refugees,they want their fellow Muslim countries to take them in(I support that too,it would be nice of them to take in refugees too only Qatar is doing it)but don't want to also put blame on some of those nations with accusations of funding terrorism but everything is on Biden and the united States should keep fighting for a country that isn't ready to fight for themselves where is that possible in 2021

salford:
They are unhappy that the US left Afghanistan the way they did and have posted links from CNN and other left leaning MSM to buttress how women, men and kids are going to suffer in Afghanistan. They suddenly developed love for Afghan Muslims.

Now that the Afghan women, men and kids are being moved to developed countries to ensure their safety, they are angry

I hope you did not include me. I prefer people developing their own nations and not through handouts.
The British Parliament is not happy with the
withdrawal process.
Trump statement beats this dog to death.

basilico:


I hope you did not include me. I prefer people developing their own nations and not through handouts.
The British Parliament is not happy with the
withdrawal process.
Trump statement beats this dog to death.

I don't disagree but there are British Generals saying that when you start evacuating your embassy and civilians, the Afghan government will read the signs and turn tail, achieving the same effect.

AmazonTopaz:

I won't waste my time on you trying to prove you wrong because your point of discussion is very irrelevant to my earlier post and is of no importance to me.

It doesn't change the fact that Hillary Clinton did great for women in Afghanistan wasting my time countering you is of no importance to me because it is not the subject of my discussion.
You are actually a conspiracy theorist which is very very true you are still hoping on a sham Arizona fraudit with bamboo leaves from China or so

When I am not watching BBNaija I use my time for better things not wasting my time trying to prove basilico wrong

Because the media you read minus the BB Naija thread does not report stuff makes me a conspiracy theorist. I always back up what I write about for simpleton flirters.

With regards to Clinton expand your horizons by trying to prove me wrong. Might be a Damascus moment for you.

As for bamboo, I'm pleased to inform you that they was looking for bamboo yes but most importantly they was reading the encoded printer serial numbers on every ballot.Every color printer has its serial number on every printout for ease in tracking counterfeit cash and govt documents.

AmazonTopaz:

Anything for cheap political points.
They want Biden to take the blame but will cry wolf when western nations take in refugees,they want their fellow Muslim countries to take them in(I support that too,it would be nice of them to take in refugees too only Qatar is doing it)but don't want to also put blame on some of those nations with accusations of funding terrorism but everything is on Biden and the united States should keep fighting for a country that isn't ready to fight for themselves where is that possible in 2021

What they don't understand is that whether Biden pulls out US troops this year or next year or 5 years from today, there would still be Afghan refugees that need to be moved. The Afghans that don't want to live when the Taliban moves in would still need to be evacuated.


"After the Biden administration suggested in February that it may not meet the Trump-negotiated May 1 deadline to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan, Arizona Rep. Andy Biggs, the chairman of the House Freedom Caucus who had urged Trump in 2020 to “end the endless wars,” wrote a letter to President Joe Biden insisting that he pick up the pace.

“I respectfully urge you to continue to remove United States service members from Afghanistan in the coming weeks,” Biggs wrote, “with the goal of ensuring all our brave men and women in uniform return from the theater before May.” The Afghanistan Study Group’s “call for more time,” he wrote, “is an all-too-familiar slippery slope.” Colorado Rep. Lauren Boebert, meanwhile, tweeted with dismay that “we’ve been in Afghanistan more than half my life.”

“We need to end the endless wars,” she wrote.

But now that Biden has ended the endless, the messaging is changing, with Freedom Caucus members and other opportunistic Republicans looking to turn regular Afghan people who had been our allies into dangerous infiltrators".

Ibime:


I don't disagree but there are British Generals saying that when you start evacuating your embassy and civilians, the Afghan government will read the signs and turn tail, achieving the same effect.

What an excuse.Please come up with another.
The Taliban have more than 15000 Americans in a hostage situation.

salford:

What they don't understand is that whether Biden pulls out US troops this year or next year or 5 years from today, there would still be Afghan refugees that need to be moved. The Afghans that don't want to live when the Taliban moves in would still need to be evacuated.


"After the Biden administration suggested in February that it may not meet the Trump-negotiated May 1 deadline to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan, Arizona Rep. Andy Biggs, the chairman of the House Freedom Caucus who had urged Trump in 2020 to “end the endless wars,” wrote a letter to President Joe Biden insisting that he pick up the pace.

“I respectfully urge you to continue to remove United States service members from Afghanistan in the coming weeks,” Biggs wrote, “with the goal of ensuring all our brave men and women in uniform return from the theater before May.” The Afghanistan Study Group’s “call for more time,” he wrote, “is an all-too-familiar slippery slope.” Colorado Rep. Lauren Boebert, meanwhile, tweeted with dismay that “we’ve been in Afghanistan more than half my life.”

“We need to end the endless wars,” she wrote.

But now that Biden has ended the endless, the messaging is changing, with Freedom Caucus members and other opportunistic Republicans looking to turn regular Afghan people who had been our allies into dangerous infiltrators".

The length you go to trying to sanitize Biden!
If he knew you existed, he'd pay you handsomely for your blind defence of his actions which hardcore leftist Tony Blair called imbecilic.

basilico:


I hope you did not include me. I prefer people developing their own nations and not through handouts.
.

You were here not long ago posting links from different sources about how we should not believe the Taliban promising to take care of women and girl children attending schools e.t.c

Okay, the west did not believe and started moving those that want to leave, you are now changing tune out of hate and envy in your heart when you saw them boarding planes to US, UK, Germany, Australia, Canada e.t.c.

Handouts? When some Igbos fled Nigeria and fled alaigbo to Lagos, Cameroun , Gabon e.t.c when the Nigerian troops started moving into the region during the Biafra war. They promise not to harm civilians, but Ibos still fled. I guess the Igbos that fled were searching for handouts too. smh

basilico:


The length you go to trying to sanitize Biden!
If he knew you existed, he'd pay you handsomely for your blind defence of his actions which hardcore leftist Tony Blair called imbecilic.

You remember the meme "my butt been wiped"? They are the ones wiping his butt

benalvino3:


Don't you think you got yourself in a situation where trying to see through the lens of Sowell is a bit hard for you?

The guys was a Marxist and they talk mainly from experience and hardship they face during Jim Crow. They know what family was to a black man before now.

Also could you compare but Larry's talking points or policies to Newsome and see which one makes sense.

Nah. I like his basic economics book and would suggest it's studied in Econs 101.
In regards to the bolded - what makes you think family does matter to the black Liberal? Is Obama not a family man? Hasn't he talked about the issue of a fatherless home many times?

Larry Elder thinking there shouldn't be a minimum wage is crazy. He is right that Newsom hasn't done much to deal with homelessness. I've already said I'm not a fan of both but I'd rather see Newsom complete his term instead of this lame power grab attempt Cali GOP are pulling in the middle of a pandemic.

basilico:


The length you go to trying to sanitize Biden!
If he knew you existed, he'd pay you handsomely for your blind defence of his actions which hardcore leftist Tony Blair called imbecilic.

It's just about pointing out your hypocrisy. Nothing about sanitization.

basilico:


What an excuse.Please come up with another.
The Taliban have more than 15000 Americans in a hostage situation.

Stop talking like the dumbo Trump is smarter than his generals. Trump would have taken the advice of the generals and done the same. They all assumed Afghanistan army will hold long enough to evacuate but nobody want be guinea pig for Uncle Sam.

The only plausible counterargument here was keeping troops in Afghanistan and sharing the load amongst NATO allies. That's what Tony Blair wrote about, not withdrawing completely.

salford:


You were here not long ago posting links from different sources about how we should not believe the Taliban promising to take care of women and girl children attending schools e.t.c

Okay, the west did not believe and started moving those that want to leave, you are now changing tune out of hate and envy in your heart when you saw them boarding planes to US, UK, Germany, Australia, Canada e.t.c.

Handouts? When some Igbos fled Nigeria and fled alaigbo to Lagos, Cameroun , Gabon e.t.c when the Nigerian troops started moving into the region during the Biafra war. They promise not to harm civilians, but Ibos still fled. I guess the Igbos that fled were searching for handouts too. smh

Never trust the Taliban.Anything they promise can be broken in a second.
Trump says First move out civilians, then equipment and finally the military. Remember when CIA intercepted Osama's aide once in a blue moon telephone call that led them to Abottabad.
They could not tell Kabul will fall? The afghan had US supplied walkie talkies. They never picked up chatter with Talibans?
The IC was ineffective and totally useless.
Embassy staff in Kabul had also sent memos to state department too.

salford:

What they don't understand is that whether Biden pulls out US troops this year or next year or 5 years from today, there would still be Afghan refugees that need to be moved. The Afghans that don't want to live when the Taliban moves in would still need to be evacuated.


"After the Biden administration suggested in February that it may not meet the Trump-negotiated May 1 deadline to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan, Arizona Rep. Andy Biggs, the chairman of the House Freedom Caucus who had urged Trump in 2020 to “end the endless wars,” wrote a letter to President Joe Biden insisting that he pick up the pace.

“I respectfully urge you to continue to remove United States service members from Afghanistan in the coming weeks,” Biggs wrote, “with the goal of ensuring all our brave men and women in uniform return from the theater before May.” The Afghanistan Study Group’s “call for more time,” he wrote, “is an all-too-familiar slippery slope.” Colorado Rep. Lauren Boebert, meanwhile, tweeted with dismay that “we’ve been in Afghanistan more than half my life.”

“We need to end the endless wars,” she wrote.

But now that Biden has ended the endless, the messaging is changing, with Freedom Caucus members and other opportunistic Republicans looking to turn regular Afghan people who had been our allies into dangerous infiltrators".

They have no shame

Ibime:


Stop talking like the dumbo Trump is smarter than his generals. Trump would have taken the advice of the generals and done the same. They all assumed Afghanistan army will hold long enough to evacuate but nobody want be guinea pig for Uncle Sam.

The only plausible counterargument here was keeping troops in Afghanistan and sharing the load amongst NATO allies. That's what Tony Blair wrote about, not withdrawing completely.

Trump would have followed that. He has a plan most likely crafted out by his advisors in state nd military circles.
His plan makes a lot of sense No?

You have not explained why immigration is a human right.

LordReed:


If that is the case then why did Trump go to Saudi?

I said oil ceased to be the major interest of America (Trump era), in Saudi Arabia.
I did not say that friendly relations between the two nations ended with the end of oil dependency. As you said, America's interests are many.

For instance, both nations, plus Israel, more than other forces, want to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons. Saudi and Iran are in ancient sectarian cum political rivalry. If Iran is not stopped, Saudi will embark on her own nuclear program for deterrence.
America with other nations wants to stop nuclear proliferation.

Secondly, if you're President and want good relations with the Muslim world, where better to start your diplomacy than in Saudi, the spiritual headquarters of the Muslim world ?

basilico:


Never trust the Taliban.Anything they promise can be broken in a second.
Trump says First move out civilians, then equipment and finally the military. Remember when CIA intercepted Osama's aide once in a blue moon telephone call that led them to Abottabad.
They could not tell Kabul will fall? The afghan had US supplied walkie talkies. They never picked up chatter with Talibans?
The IC was ineffective and totally useless.
Embassy staff in Kabul had also sent memos to state department too.

Move out the civilians you say. I am sure you know the "Civilians" would include Afghans. Probably more Afghans than are currently fleeing the Taliban.

So, it still would not stop immigration of Afghan refugees to western countries like you wish. it was only a matter of when the US and NATO decides to pull out.