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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by samuk: 12:10am On Aug 29, 2021 |
TAO12: All that can read and comprehend should go and read the dictionary TAO11 presented. TAO11, according to the dictionary, Ogene only become God when osa is added otherwise it's either Ooni of Ife or a piece of kola. The osa in Ogene-osa is the reference to God, not Ogene on it's own. The dictionary is clear enough. Your Ooni or Ogene in Benin means a piece of kola, not even a full kola. I am sure this must be very reassuring to you |
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO12: 12:16am On Aug 29, 2021 |
samuk:Yes east is east if literal/geographical description is the subject. But, literal geographical description wasn’t the subject when your obas were directing prayers to Yorubaland (on the geographical west) and yet facing the rising-sun at dawn (on the geographical east). In sum, Ile-Ife is reverentially known (from Atakpame to your kingdom; from Lagos to Oyo-Ile) as the place from where dawn [sun-rise] comes; regardless of the fact that Ile-Ife lies somewhere in the center of these four corners. Sorry! You dictionary definition of Ogene is on fire, go back and read it and this ensure you fully understand what you read before rushing out with a reply.Non-deluded people, the majority here have, read it; and have seen that it points out two things. (1) It gave the three definitions of the Bini word “oghene” (in order of popularity of usage); the 2nd of which is the King of Ife. (B) It also gave the etymology of the word “oghene”, viz. “oghene” comes from the Yoruba word “Ooni” You exhibit all attributes of delusions. You are healed today in the name of whatever you believe in, Amen!
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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO12: 12:22am On Aug 29, 2021 |
samuk:I am aware that you’re intentionally deluding yourself in the hope that it doesn’t truly manifest while feigning dumb. Nowhere does your Benin dictionary say or imply that “oghene” must have Osa before it refers to God. Instead Osa in Benin literally means God, while oghene is an attribute of that God. The “unchangeable” or the “ irreplaceable” are both attributes of God. “Oghene” as such is in reference to God. This word also means the King of Ife. This word apart from referring to the king of Ife and God also sometimes refer to a piece of kola — all in Bini lingua. However, the Benin dictionary added the last detail that: “ɔɣɛnɛ … cf. Yor. ɔɔni”. In other words the Bini word, “oghene” [regardless of how ever it is used in Bini language] originally comes from the Yoruba language, viz. the word “Ooni”. It is not my fault that your ancestors of old viewed the Ooni (king of Ife) as some kind of God.
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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by samuk: 12:24am On Aug 29, 2021 |
TAO12: Stop embarrassing yourself and your fans. According to your dictionary evidence Ogene only means God when combined with osa. Ogene means unchangeable and Osa means God, hence Ogene-osa or unchangeable God. On it's own, Ogene is a name of either the Ooni of Ife or a piece of kola. |
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO12: 12:33am On Aug 29, 2021 |
samuk:Stop feigning dumb. Even your people would be very disappointed in you to hear you blab. Nowhere does your Benin dictionary say or imply that “oghene” must have Osa before it refers to God. Instead Osa in Benin literally means God, while oghene is an attribute of that God. The “unchangeable” or the “ irreplaceable” are both attributes of God. “Oghene” as such is in reference to God. This word also means the King of Ife. This word apart from referring to the king of Ife and God also sometimes refer to a piece of kola — all in Bini lingua. However, the Benin dictionary added the last detail that: “ɔɣɛnɛ … cf. Yor. ɔɔni”. In other words the Bini word, “oghene” [regardless of how ever it is used in Bini language] originally comes from the Yoruba language, viz. the word “Ooni”. Get a grip samuk, befor you go full blown delude if you haven’t gone already.
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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by samuk: 12:47am On Aug 29, 2021 |
TAO12: Don't tell me you also have eyes problems. The dictionary starts with two definitions which are irreplaceable and unchangeable. It then combined Ogene with Osa and came up with the meaning unchangeable God, the Osa being God and the Ogene being the unchangeable. The dictionary then went on to say Ogene also means Ooni of Ife and a piece of kola, it further explains the piece of kola. I am glad you are not actually clever enough to have let this slide, because that is what a clever person caught red handed would have done, you let it go quietly, but by engaging me back and forth, those that were not initially interested in the dictionary will now be forced to see for themselves what the arguments is all about, thereby exposing yourself further. I initially didn't look at the dictionary but one thing say I should and lord and beyond TAO11 pants is on fire again. |
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO12: 12:55am On Aug 29, 2021 |
samuk:Mr. Deluded, enough of the nonsense. The same screenshot shows you another example under definition 1: “agwe_oghene” And the agwe is still identified with God/Osa. Show me the Osa beside the agwe [or beside the Oghene] for the agwe_oghene to be associated with God/Osa? Be deluding yourself. Mumu. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by gregyboy(m): 12:58am On Aug 29, 2021 |
TAO12: Only you they drag debate with yourself.... In a bid to convince yourself in your weed smoking world Everyone knows europeans were stationed at the shores to trade, and they visited coastal countries interiors, like benin, lagos, ijebu that was visited by the Portuguese at their first arrival And you came up with europeans didn't visit the interior of West Africa until 1800 which is untrue If oghene existed the Portuguese would have begged benin to escorts them there to see the oghene if he wasnt really a myth, they probably figured out that the ambassador was talking on myth.... Tho If those very statement had come from the oba himself and not an ambassador probably we would had a second thought on believing it.. The only powers European mentions in the coast of Nigeria was the Benin and igalas, not until the Benin destruction on igalas that made them very weak.. If oghene is true definitely the oghene was probably from igala area, the king of igala... The Benin were fully aware of igalas presence in their location before a rebelling chief went to meet the igala kings to war benin, definitely it was the only powerful kingdom that could stage benin, the oghene if he truly existed he was probably from the igala region, but we are yet to get any prove to this |
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO12: 1:02am On Aug 29, 2021 |
gregyboy:The phrase “everyone knows” is used whenever a Bini LIAR is typing. Talk to me whenever you have proof for each and every crap you typed. Peace! |
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by samuk: 1:05am On Aug 29, 2021 |
TAO12: The agwe_oghene is ugie that is consecrated to Osa. Ogene, Oghene-osa and agwe_ogene all have different meanings according to the dictionary. 1. Ogene means Irreplaceable, unchangeable, Ooni and a piece of kola. 2. Oghene-osa means unchangeable God. The osa is God. 3. agwe_ogene means Ugie that is consecrated to osa or God. The osa in the dictionary is the only reference to God, not Ogene. When Benin call Ooni Oghene, it doesn't mean God. Lesson for you is that before you submit anything to support your arguments next time, ensure you read and understand them thoroughly in other not to embarrass yourself like this. |
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO12: 1:28am On Aug 29, 2021 |
samuk:You must really think I’m from Benin to think you can lie freely. The dictionary wrote: oghene-osa. And you lied that oghene by itself has nothing to do with osa, unless osa appears next to it. A huge lie. However, your lie was to be exposed by the example cited in the following line, viz. agwe_oghene. First of all, there is no osa next the oghene here. Nor is there any osa next to agwe. Yet, the definition of agwe_oghene as given in the dictionary is as follows: “an ugie consecrated to osa” Remark: agwe does not mean osa ugie does not mean osa How then does osa [God] appear in the meaning of the phrase: agwe_oghene? The Answer: The only word which describes osa is the very word oghene. When will you cease being delusional? Seek help, samuk? ✌
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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by samuk: 1:37am On Aug 29, 2021 |
TAO12: Are you playing dumb or you are really dumb? Imagine someone that can't even comprehend 4 lines of the dictionary which she presented. Were did I say ugie or agwe means osa. Osa means God. Agwe was never used on its own in the dictionary, it was written agwe_oghene to mean ugie. |
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO12: 1:46am On Aug 29, 2021 |
samuk:You must be really shivering right now to have typed the above highlighted incoherent words (also shown in the attached screenshot). LMAO! (1) Were did I say ugie or agwe means osa.(1) Perfect! So, you agreed ugie or agwe do not refer to Osa [God]. (2) Agwe is a Bini word. It appears in its own place in the dictionary. It means fasting. (3) Nope! It was written agwe_oghene NOT to merely mean any “ugie”. Noooooooo! Instead, the phrase (agwe_oghene) specifically means: An “ugie consecrated to osa” In full English, it goes: agwe_oghene refers to the [fasting] ceremony consecrated to God. How God [osa] take enter? Not from agwe, not from ugie, of course from oghene. Winks! Samuk, what do you have to say now that you've been exposed as a janus-faced, fatuous, delusional, little, pathological LIAR?? -------------------------------- The dictionary wrote: oghene-osa. And you lied that oghene by itself has nothing to do with osa, unless osa appears next to it. A huge lie. However, your lie was to be exposed by the example cited in the following line, viz. agwe_oghene. First of all, there is no osa next the oghene here. Nor is there any osa next to agwe. Yet, the definition of agwe_oghene as given in the dictionary is as follows: “an ugie consecrated to osa” Remark: agwe does not mean osa ugie does not mean osa How then does osa [God] appear in the meaning of the phrase: agwe_oghene? The Answer: The only word which describes osa is the very word oghene. When will you cease being delusional? Seek help, samuk? Peace.
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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by samuk: 1:48am On Aug 29, 2021 |
TAO12: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Osalobua is the name for God in the Edo language. It is often abbreviated as Osa, which is commonly integrated into modern Edo names, such as Esosa, which means God's goodness or gift; Eghosa, God's time; and Efosa, God's blessings or wealth. |
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO12: 2:15am On Aug 29, 2021 |
samuk:Wikipidea? So, your straw-clutching with your Bini dictionary finally expired. Now it’s Wikipedia’s turn. Anyways … In the light of your failure with the Bini dictionary, do you still stand with your claim that Oghene does not mean God, unless it is suffixed with the word Osa? Check the screenshot below before you answer. Lies don’t last. Desist! Peace! 1 Like
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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by KingOKON: 5:12am On Aug 29, 2021 |
TAO12:. What about the Latinized name? Who ever heard of Ijebus if not the Ijebus Thunder FIRE you if you dont show me where or what useless book published it |
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO12: 7:41am On Aug 29, 2021 |
KingOKON:Is this to be taken as a honest promise to the effect that you’ve searched your heart and you’ve found yourself to be now ready to read a book? Thanks! |
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by KingOKON: 7:49am On Aug 29, 2021 |
TAO12: Thunder fire you and if you don't show me where Ijebus in 1400 met with Europeans |
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by samuk: 7:52am On Aug 29, 2021 |
TAO12: Sorry, it's too late to spin your way out of this. Your dictionary definition have clearly discredited you, I will be surprised if you reference it next time. According to Your evidence, Ooni is ogene or a piece of kola. Benin prays to Ogene-osa. |
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by samuk: 7:59am On Aug 29, 2021 |
According to TAO11 the Ooni is Oghene (Urhobo) Oghene-osa(Benin) that created heaven and earth. Just claiming Benin history, Benin Oba and Benin people is no longer enough. TAO11 Ooni is now God almighty that people pray to. Anybody that love that lady should keep eyes on her before she goes naked and enters the market. |
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO12: 8:02am On Aug 29, 2021 |
KingOKON:I know exactly when I’ve knocked a Bini man down. Even his pseudo-intelligent replies would cease as in the case here. One man down from the Benin side. We meove. Hehe —————- Last chance, are you ready to ready to read a book? Search your heart before you answer. 1 Like |
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by KingOKON: 8:03am On Aug 29, 2021 |
BobRISKY will surely dance naked at the Ogane market square in ile ife |
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by KingOKON: 8:05am On Aug 29, 2021 |
TAO12:. If you know you aren't the senior brother of Devil show where anywhere anything or link where IJEBUS met the Europeans in 1400 * where they also told Europeans of the Immortal king |
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO12: 8:09am On Aug 29, 2021 |
samuk:You’re not even sure where to stay. You’ve been fleeing back and forth in disgrace. (1) You alleged that the dictionary must put osa next to oghene before oghene can refer to osa (God). That was found to be a blatant falsehood considering that the phrase agwe_oghene is defined by the same dictionary to be in reference to osa (God). Lmao! (2) You fled in shame from the Bini dictionary now to WiKipedia — insisting in shame that oghene does not by itself refer to osa (God). Again, you were caught pants down to be a liar as you already admit (as in the screenshot below) that oghene by itself refers to osa (God) in Benin language. You are clinically deluded, samuk. 1 Like
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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO12: 8:19am On Aug 29, 2021 |
Samuk, my King is your God. Says your fore-fathers. samuk:Samuk A in his comment quoted here: The word oghene must be prefixed by the word osa before it could mean God in Bini language. Samuk B in the attached screenshot below: The word oghene [of course clearly without any prefix or suffix] refers to God almighty in heaven in the Bini language. ————— IF samuk is not clinically deluded, then an expert may please tell us what clinical delusion is. Hehe. nisai, gomojam, Christistruth00, Ofunwa111, rhektor, RedboneSmith 1 Like
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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by samuk: 8:26am On Aug 29, 2021 |
TAO12: Editing my posts and quoting me out of context wouldn't help you. Your dictionary evidence have thoroughly disgraced, embarrassed and exposed you as fraud. I know you rely on the low IQ of your followers not to verify your submissions. The issue of Oghene which you relied upon to teach the Benin people and the Oba of Benin that their Yoruba have fallen flat on it's face, it has gone up in flames, you are now too ashamed to put it up again. Editing my posts and taking my comments out of context is now what you relied on. You have referenced so called foreign experts, local experts, Nairalanders and yet your lies remains lies, the Benin people you have been trying to convinced for years that they and their Oba is Yoruba haven't yield an inch of ground. Keep going, maybe one day you will be able to convince the Benin people how Yoruba they and their Oba are since this very important to you. The project to convince Benin people that they and their Oba are Yoruba is a project TAO11 must complete. TAO11 please show us one more time the Benin dictionary that says Benin people are Yoruba. |
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO12: 8:28am On Aug 29, 2021 |
KingOKON:Thanks for demonstrating that you are incapable of mustering a intelligent/coherent reply in relation to the subject at hand. ————— Grace Question: Will you read the book/article if the references are to be provide to you? 1 Like |
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO12: 8:33am On Aug 29, 2021 |
First of all, it is not my fault that your fore-fathers took my king as their God. samuk:Haha! Nairalanders come and see something. Samuk said I edited his comment in the attachment below. Let me wake you up Samuk: It is impossible for me to edit your post when your post is shown to be coming directly under your name — rather than under mine. Did I just have to explain that? LMAO! Samuk, you are clinically deluded. Take this serious. My two cents. Cc: nisai, gomojam, Christistruth00, Ofunwa111, RedboneSmith 2 Likes
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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO12: 8:38am On Aug 29, 2021 |
By the way, before you think of editing out where you said I edited you post in this latest comment; I have the original screenshot already. So don’t bother. This is the Nairaland comment of the millennium. Cc: samuk, nisai, gomojam, Christistruth00, RedboneSmith, rhektor, Ofunwa111 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by samuk: 8:39am On Aug 29, 2021 |
TAO12: Oops, I didn't see the dictionary evidence that says Benin are Yoruba. That one has faded after just one day of evidence. Every day you provide new evidence to support your lies. TAO11 show us the dictionary evidence that proves Benin people are Yoruba. Don't be ashamed I am sure your fans will want to see it one more time. |
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by KingOKON: 8:41am On Aug 29, 2021 |
TAO12:. It is too early for one to be smoking WEED What part of the words Books, links or references don't you understand? Anything you Ogane Weed smoking machine! |
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO12: 8:41am On Aug 29, 2021 |
samuk:When did we discuss Binis being Yoruba? Baba is trying hard to derail. I’m dying of laughter. Is your delusions getting stronger or something? Dey there, no go seek help. LMAO! nisai, gomojam, Christistruth00, RedboneSmith, rhektor, Ofunwa111, 3 Likes 2 Shares
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