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Come In Here ONLY If You Are Religiously SOUND! by Issues40(m): 9:06am On Aug 29, 2021 |
This particular thread is not for babies. So if you are literally a baby, I'd strongly advice you leave this thread before it is too late So in recent times, I have been critically studying the truth surrounding the person of JESUS CHRIST and how the Bible made us believe that he came to earth for the salvation of our souls (John 3:16 attests to this fact). We were also told by the same Bible that he was born in bethlem, Israel and fulfilled the prophecy of the ancient prophets who prophesied his birth, resurrection and death (Prophet Isiah and others) BUT the very problem here is this: Till this day, the Israelites don't believe in Jesus Christ. They say that the prophecies of the ancient prophets have not yet been fulfilled and is still waiting to be fulfilled. If Israel were Jesus was acclaimed to be born don't believe in his existence, how can the rest of the world believe in him. They say the bible was written by men inspired by the Holy spirit. If this is true, how come the four books of the Gospel have contradictory accounts of some events as they were recorded? Or was it the holy spirit who inspired them to give different accounts? Don't forget that the four gospel books were written by different men at different times.... Look at the so called Christendom today all around the world. Different denominations with different doctrines and dogmas and all of them claim to operate under the holy spirit. For example there was a time where the deeper life church banned the use of televisions because to them it was a sin. Today, they allow the use of the same TVs in their homes and churches. Was it the Holy spirit who inspired the G.O then to ban it? Israel is still God's own country today despite not believing in Jesus Christ. No country can defeat them and that shows that God is still with them despite them not believing in Jesus Christ. There's a lot of analysis. But let me stop here. What really is the truth about the whole Jesus thing? |
Re: Come In Here ONLY If You Are Religiously SOUND! by OgogoroFreak(m): 9:14am On Aug 29, 2021 |
I will read after drinking. |
Re: Come In Here ONLY If You Are Religiously SOUND! by Issues40(m): 9:15am On Aug 29, 2021 |
Please note: I am sure the Person of God exists (unlike what the atheists say) and I am also sure that the devil (Lucifer) exists but the person of Jesus Christ is where the confusion all lies in. Nobody was there when angel Gabriel appeared to Mary. Nobody was there when the three wise men visited Mary and Jesus in the manger. So how can we verify the truth? It could have all been made up by some very rich imaginations. If Israel as God's own nation still subscribe to the law of Torah ( Moses or Mosaic laws) only and not Jesus teachings, then something must be wrong somewhere |
Re: Come In Here ONLY If You Are Religiously SOUND! by delugadou(m): 9:19am On Aug 29, 2021 |
Issues40:Believe in Jesus Christ and be saved. Confess Him as your Lord with your mouth, and believe in your heart that He died and rose again. Bottom line is, LEAVE MATTER FOR MATTHIAS. Philosophy and logic can't help you in this matter. Happy Sunday to you. |
Re: Come In Here ONLY If You Are Religiously SOUND! by Issues40(m): 9:20am On Aug 29, 2021 |
The apostle Paul acclaimed to be inspired by the Holy spirit instructed that women should be silent in churches. But today we have women who preach in churches and even go as far as owning churches and also claiming that they were inspired by the Holy spirit. Are there two or more Holy spirit influencing Christendom? What is really going on? |
Re: Come In Here ONLY If You Are Religiously SOUND! by Issues40(m): 9:22am On Aug 29, 2021 |
delugadou: But how does one believe in what one is not sure of? I am not sure you can believe in me because you don't know me. That's how it works |
Re: Come In Here ONLY If You Are Religiously SOUND! by delugadou(m): 9:32am On Aug 29, 2021 |
Issues40:I don leave you for God hand. With your own eyes, you have seen people pray in the name of Jesus Christ and get beautiful miracles and testimony. 1 Like |
Re: Come In Here ONLY If You Are Religiously SOUND! by maiquel: 9:32am On Aug 29, 2021 |
I like the fact that your premis is biblical... like your base is the word. Now to gain a better understanding I suggest you read more... I'd have selected some specific portions but I want you to read up yourself, there is joy is doing so. Romans 8, to Romans 11 It's a long read but it answers your questions especially pertaining the Israelites belief in Jesus. 1 Like |
Re: Come In Here ONLY If You Are Religiously SOUND! by kingxsamz(m): 11:40am On Aug 29, 2021 |
Issues40: Lol, you no believe Jesus but you believe say devil and god dey. Going by your logic, were you there when Lucifer was giving Eve the apple, were you there when Satan was sent out of heaven? Have you seen this god or do you have any logical evidence for it? Apply your logic to everything you've been told of the Bible and its fictional stories and tell yourself the truth. You're just another 'woke' Christian. |
Re: Come In Here ONLY If You Are Religiously SOUND! by Issues40(m): 11:48am On Aug 29, 2021 |
kingxsamz: But the truth is that you can't know it all. How do you know where you come from? How do you know that your parents met and created you? How are you sure you didn't fall from the sky or emerged from underground? You weren't there when you were created. You only believed what you were told. It is the same with God and Lucifer... Or where does black magic come from? After all we have seen miracles happen clearly before our very own eyes after we called on God's name |
Re: Come In Here ONLY If You Are Religiously SOUND! by Issues40(m): 11:51am On Aug 29, 2021 |
maiquel: Yes, I've read it. But those chapters were written only on the premise that Jesus Christ truly existed. What if he didn't? What would we make of those chapters? Don't forget that those chapters reflected the reasoning of a man ( apostle Paul) and I can tell you for a fact that the apostle paul is not recognized in Israel as anybody |
Re: Come In Here ONLY If You Are Religiously SOUND! by kingxsamz(m): 12:21pm On Aug 29, 2021 |
Issues40:How do I know if my parents gave birth to me? These are lame analogies you have used. How are you sure you didn't fall from the sky or emerged from underground? You weren't there when you were created. You only believed what you were told. It is the same with God and Lucifer... If you're not sure of these things how then can you be sure that there's a god and a Lucifer who's this god's rival? Or where does black magic come from? After all we have seen miracles happen clearly before our very own eyes after we called on God's name There's nothing like black magic. It holds no substance in real life and has no effect in reality. And miracle does not exist. The same way you don't believe in this Jesus is the same way for atheists. You can't pick and chose in these things. It's either you believe them or you don't. |
Re: Come In Here ONLY If You Are Religiously SOUND! by LordReed(m): 12:37pm On Aug 29, 2021 |
Issues40: Why are you sure they exist? |
Re: Come In Here ONLY If You Are Religiously SOUND! by OtemAtum: 1:25pm On Aug 29, 2021 |
Jesus is fictitious made by Saul and written into biblical history Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Check out for how Saul created Jesus in the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY. |
Re: Come In Here ONLY If You Are Religiously SOUND! by Issues40(m): 1:27pm On Aug 29, 2021 |
kingxsamz: I know your type well. The ones that can clearly see but choose not to or maybe pretend not. If you can tell me that Black magic doesn't exist especially as a Nigerian that you are, then you and I have no discussion here please.... |
Re: Come In Here ONLY If You Are Religiously SOUND! by kingxsamz(m): 1:32pm On Aug 29, 2021 |
Issues40: The discussion isn't even about black magic or whatever. The discussion is about your god, devil and Jesus. My unbelief in the so called black magic shouldn't hurt your feelings more than my unbelief in your god. Why have you ruled out the existence of the Jesus in your bible based on certain logical conclusions but have refused to apply same premise to your belief in your god and the devil? That's the discussion here. 3 Likes |
Re: Come In Here ONLY If You Are Religiously SOUND! by Ayo081(m): 9:25am On Aug 31, 2021 |
Apostle Paul actually encountered Jesus on his way to Damascus.
Do you know that after that encounter, Apostle Paul spent 13 years studying and knowing the person of Jesus and Holy Spirit before preaching the gospel (Read/study Galatians 1).
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Re: Come In Here ONLY If You Are Religiously SOUND! by Dtruthspeaker: 4:47pm On Aug 31, 2021 |
Issues40: Do you not see that since the beginning of their world from Moses, that they were Anti-God? Complaining all the way, saying, "Why did you remove us from Egypt?" If not for the Everlastingness of the Covenant with Abraham, God would have wiped them out like the nations around them. Issues40: Have you not seen that even in giving report about eg crime or accident witnesses present never give the same testimony? All testimonies are given from the angles a witnesses is interested in. |
Re: Come In Here ONLY If You Are Religiously SOUND! by Dtruthspeaker: 5:32pm On Aug 31, 2021 |
Issues40: Do people ever Obey God? |
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