Spy360:

My brother, if a cook is bad it does not matter the type of ingredients he uses, the food won't be good. It happen to Chelsea with Lampard, it's the same thing we are seeing. Arteta is tactically inept, and so he struggles. Despite all the excuses of injuries and illnesses, he had Elneny to cover that midfield with Xhaka. This would have prevented the clown from getting a red. Remember, how I made the mistake of adding Lokonga to his line up, as this was unimaginable.

However, it's a good thing Xhaka is off the list for at least three matches. I hope he doesn't get back. Let's have Partey-Lokonga.

Lol.. It's true tho but my point is, a good transfer window will give us hope weda tactician good or not. Example is this lokonga, if a good coach wey get head comes, at least he might start pairing him with partey and xhaka might be relegated to bench. Now just imagine we had good wingers and midfielders, yet Arteta is still benching them. All we'd just hope is for them to sack Arteta and bring in someone competent. That's the leverage tuchel had at Chelsea wen he met havertz Werner ziyech and chilwell and not the Abraham, giroud and Barkley. Hope you get my point

Like you, I'm just happy that xhaka will miss 3 matches, initially thought it was one match like Reece James. But then, his next match will be against Tottenham and I just hope partey and lokonga had that base 2 on lockdown before his arrival and that Arteta head no touch when such happens by reinstating xhaka again. Well I'll just watch sha

iamoyindamola:
A word of prayer for willian, he just save our stupid and useless board about 20m by terminating his contract then take 70% paycut to join his former club.
He's not evil after all, we saw what ozil did to us

Really nice one from him I must say. Not easy to forgo 20m at all and much more taking 70% pay cut.
In this present age wey footballers is all about money.

I wish him all the best in his future endeavors

iamoyindamola:
All of a sudden, no one is staning xhaka
Failure no get friends true true

Lol... Who been dey Stan xhaka before??

Jodera:
Really nice one from him I must say. Not easy to forgo 20m at all and much more taking 70% pay cut.
In this present age wey footballers is all about money.

I wish him all the best in his future endeavors

20m no be naira oo
Na God go continue to bless that guy

Jodera:
Lol.. It's true tho but my point is, a good transfer window will give us hope weda tactician good or not. Example is this lokonga, if a good coach wey get head comes, at least he might start pairing him with partey and xhaka might be relegated to bench. Now just imagine we had good wingers and midfielders, yet Arteta is still benching them. All we'd just hope is for them to sack Arteta and bring in someone competent. That's the leverage tuchel had at Chelsea wen he met havertz Werner ziyech and chilwell and not the Abraham, giroud and Barkley. Hope you get my point

Like you, I'm just happy that xhaka will miss 3 matches, initially thought it was one match like Reece James. But then, his next match will be against Tottenham and I just hope partey and lokonga had that base 2 on lockdown before his arrival and that Arteta head no touch when such happens by reinstating xhaka again. Well I'll just watch sha

We were actually having a good transfer until they extended xhaka contract
If you look at it the guys brought in were backup apart from white, even though they were backup they have been able to adapt to our game
Can same the said about xhaka after 3 years

Jodera:
Lol... Who been dey Stan xhaka before??

By their comments you sha know them

Spy360:

The fact is that we needed a backup keeper and a defender apart from the CM and AM which we have all signed. So that's not the issue. The issue is Arteta. Bad coach. Simple.

yes, we needed a £30m back up goal keeper and a £50m defender who is not better than mavro and saliba over the likes of bissouma, maddison or sterling.



Great decision!

iamoyindamola:

20m no be naira oo
Na God go continue to bless that guy

Lol... Na why I no even put the currency cos any how the currency dey, e still big well. Omo, the guy over try

Jodera:
On the contrary, if we have a good transfer window, it would make us better than we are presently. Even if it doesn't, next coach will/might use the good players effectively. We spent the 80m and even fans aren't too happy about the two signings, that should tell you how far

thank you for pointing that out for him.


That game would have been different if maddison and bissouma was in that game yesterday.

We literally played xhaka as our only midfielder, xhaka of all people!

iamoyindamola:

We were actually having a good transfer until they extended xhaka contract
If you look at it the guys brought in were backup apart from white, even though they were backup they have been able to adapt to our game
Can same the said about xhaka after 3 years

I swear, that xhaka deal just prove say arsenal no serious at all. But the talk wey me and spy dey yarn be say that 30m for Back up keeper and 50m for Cb too much for club wey need much improvement for major areas, that 80m dey excessive.

Prices for lokonga, tavarez and odegaard dey very very okayy

First it was saliba, then Nekson, now it's AMN


This arteta should leave this club before he destroys another young talent. A coach with such an ego shoyld have a worldckass coaching skills to match his ego and not this shît he is feeding us with every weekend

iamoyindamola:
A word of prayer for willian, he just save our stupid and useless board about 20m by terminating his contract then take 70% paycut to join his former club.
He's not evil after all, we saw what ozil did to us

Because of this, I have dropped my scissors. He can walk freely now without the fear of me shaving am “Gorimakpa”.

kodded:
First it was saliba, then Nekson, now it's AMN


This arteta should leave this club before he destroys another young talent. A coach with such an ego shoyld have a worldckass coaching skills to match his ego and not this shît he is feeding us with every weekend

If I talk dem go say dem suppose dey fear and respect am as coach.. Infact dem use their real life experience take support Arteta’s decision..I come dey ask whether Arsenal don become military camp? Dem talk say na why him dey buy young players when go fear and respect am..I ask whether the player no go grow? I ask say what if Saka and ESR come speak up? Dem say na disrespect say we go sell them.. Because of one ego driven narcissist.

Roland17:


Because of this, I have dropped my scissors. He can walk freely now without the fear of me shaving am “Gorimakpa”.

The guy surprise me
He suppose allow the board suffer for 600 years

kodded:
thank you for pointing that out for him.


That game would have been different if maddison and bissouma was in that game yesterday.

We literally played xhaka as our only midfielder, xhaka of all people!

Lol... Arsenal matter don tire us. Even Arteta confuse cos I no wan believe say him use him clear church mind play Arteta as lone DM

iamoyindamola:

The guy surprise me
He suppose allow the board suffer for 600 years

Why you think say Mechanic still dey for Arsenal? “Mecho” no gree leave him money.. He tell Arteta say Arsenal must continue to pay am all him salary if him go leave go Fenerbahce. Fenerbahce say dem no get money to pay Mechanic weekly salary. Dem say the only way the transfer go work Na if Arsenal pay 70% of the salary..

Roland17:


Why you think say Mechanic still dey for Arsenal? “Mecho” no gree leave him money.. He tell Arteta say Arsenal must continue to pay am all him salary if him go leave go Fenerbahce. Fenerbahce say dem no get money to pay Mechanic weekly salary. Dem say the only way the transfer go work Na if Arsenal pay 70% of the salary..

wahala

Roland17:


If I talk dem go say dem suppose dey fear and respect am as coach.. Infact dem use their real life experience take support Arteta’s decision..I come dey ask whether Arsenal don become military camp? Dem talk say na why him dey buy young players when go fear and respect am..I ask whether the player no go grow? I ask say what if Saka and ESR come speak up? Dem say na disrespect say we go sell them.. Because of one ego driven narcissist.

Don't be petty Roland!

And if you wanna make a jibe...be frontal about it.

I have explained this repeatedly to you but you still making your snide comments like a woman... I never see Arteta as a saviour or a good coach worthy of Arsenal. That said, it is a NO - NO for a player to disrespect his coach publicly even if he is the worst manager on earth. His "office / position" deserves only respect from his players. Fans can shout and insult the manager, but it is not acceptable from the player to do so to press. Maybe to the board; yes.

It is no brainier that it is easy to manage people you are much older than, than managing your former colleague / age mates who don't see anything superior about you. And you asked about whether the players won't grow in case he goes for younger players, of course they will, but so also will Arteta... or will Arteta remain same age for them to catch up with him?

I think almost everyone agrees here that Arteta is not up to what we need, but don't mistake optimism for better result for the team we love as equal to support for Arteta

I didn't expect the above from you. I thought you were more matured and reasonable to debate with than that.

kodded:
First it was saliba, then Nekson, now it's AMN


This arteta should leave this club before he destroys another young talent. A coach with such an ego shoyld have a worldckass coaching skills to match his ego and not this shît he is feeding us with every weekend

I understand that AMN at the start of summer training told Arteta that is now open to playing as RB/RWB but Arteta has refused to give the kid another chance despite being the one responsible for ruining the guy's life. Instead he has been playing Bellerin/Chambers/ Soares..

ObaIgwe1:


Don't be petty Roland!

And if you wanna make a jibe...be frontal about it.

I have explained this repeatedly to you but you still making your snide comments like a woman... I never see Arteta as a saviour or a good coach worthy of Arsenal. That said, it is a NO - NO for a player to disrespect his coach publicly even if he is the worst manager on earth. His "office / position" deserves only respect from his players. Fans can shout and insult the manager, but it is not acceptable from the player to do so to press. Maybe to the board; yes.

It is no brainier that it is easy to manage people you are much older than, than managing your former colleague / age mates who don't see anything superior about you. And you asked about whether the players won't grow in case he goes for younger players, of course they will, but so also will Arteta... or will Arteta remain same age for them to catch up with him?

I think almost everyone agrees here that Arteta is not up to what we need, but don't mistake optimism for better result for the team we love as equal to support for Arteta

I didn't expect the above from you. I thought you were more matured and reasonable to debate with than that.

Oga one thing I don't delve into is uncivil debates/ name calling arguments. So if you expect I will retort with similar name callings den I am sorry you will be disappointed.
Let me also make it very clear that I don't need or seek your validation, or that of anyone on this forum for that matter (na something wen everybody wen sabi me know).. Whether you see me as mature/ reasonable or not is absolutely irrelevant, more importantly, your subjective opinion.
With that being said, I still respect you and that is why I engage. If you thought that was snide remark, den you are the one who needs to watch your emotions and how sensitive you are because to use "dem say dem say" isn't new in debates.

I will not even try to debate you about your egocentric narcissist, my position about him is clear.

Udo!

Spy360:

Exactly what I am saying. No matter the kind of transfer business we did, our coach is bad. So even if we sign 10AMs, it won't make us better. So the only way to have assessed our transfer is if we had a tactically good manager which we don't.

This exactly is the way I see it also.

I don't believe we lack quality players or that our players are that bad that we need total overhauling. Apart from the cost of the English players we signed, I dont think our transfer business this season is bad so far. Our problem is the tactics or lack of it from our manager. Even if we sign Madison, plus Messi and Ronaldo join, I don't think we will get good results from Arteta when we face top teams or teams with good managers.

But since we are still stuck with him let's hope the suspension of Xhaka and the return of other injured and sick players will improve us...till Artetaout.

On going transfers

ANM has a loan offer from Everton
R. Nelson has an offer from Feyenoord
R. Azeez has joined Portsmouth on loan.

Roland17:
On going transfers

ANM has a loan offer from Everton
R. Nelson has an offer from Feyenoord
R. Azeez has joined Portsmouth on loan.

Arsenal rejected the loan for amn
Seems Arteta need him if we don't get a RB, we reignite Aaron Norwich already got Brandon William, Barca want bellerin on loan with option to buy

ObaIgwe1:


Don't be petty Roland!

And if you wanna make a jibe...be frontal about it.

I have explained this repeatedly to you but you still making your snide comments like a woman... I never see Arteta as a saviour or a good coach worthy of Arsenal. That said, it is a NO - NO for a player to disrespect his coach publicly even if he is the worst manager on earth. His "office / position" deserves only respect from his players. Fans can shout and insult the manager, but it is not acceptable from the player to do so to press. Maybe to the board; yes.

It is no brainier that it is easy to manage people you are much older than, than managing your former colleague / age mates who don't see anything superior about you. And you asked about whether the players won't grow in case he goes for younger players, of course they will, but so also will Arteta... or will Arteta remain same age for them to catch up with him?

I think almost everyone agrees here that Arteta is not up to what we need, but don't mistake optimism for better result for the team we love as equal to support for Arteta

I didn't expect the above from you. I thought you were more matured and reasonable to debate with than that.

Bros calm down abeg
You see apart from kokaneprodigy, I and that lunatic(he knows himself)
Every other persons here are very civil, e shock me as you call out Roland and I am sure others too will be surprised cos he's the least to go that route making snide remarks na miscommunication cause am
Make Una no vex

Na Arteta cause am

Roland17:


Oga one thing I don't delve into is uncivil debates/ name calling arguments. So if you expect I will retort with similar name callings den I am sorry you will be disappointed.
Let me also make it very clear that I don't need or seek your validation, or that of anyone on this forum for that matter (na something wen everybody wen sabi me know).. Whether you see me as mature/ reasonable or not is absolutely irrelevant, more importantly, your subjective opinion.
With that being said, I still respect you and that is why I engage. If you thought that was snide remark, den you are the one who needs to watch your emotions and how sensitive you are because to use "dem say dem say" isn't new in debates.

I will not even try to debate you about your egocentric narcissist, my position about him is clear.

Udo!

Your dem say dem say to the point of saying "dem use their real life experience take support Arteta’s decision" na women way of making jibes and snide IMO. I will rather mention you and quote exactly what you said instead. Anyways I have made my point.

I did not even disagree with you about Arteta ego or that it is a good thing to have big ego. I am simply saying if you have a boss (especially the one with ego) and you are not Messi or Ronaldo, and cherish making progress without hindrance in your carrer...it is better to zip your emotional outburst to the press and not seen as opposing /disrespecting your boss.

iamoyindamola:

Arsenal rejected the loan for amn
Seems Arteta need him if we don't get a RB, we reignite Aaron Norwich already got Brandon William, Barca want bellerin on loan with option to buy

We have failed ANM severally and I think it will be fair to allow him leave for Everton. This kid has suffered under Arsenal and I come dey pity am especially after I read that him post. Not saying he has been perfect but I am not happy with how we have treated him.

He is probably the best option for that RB/RWB position but we are putting his future on the line again.

Roland17:


We have failed ANM severally and I think it will be fair to allow him leave for Everton. This kid has suffered under Arsenal and I come dey pity am especially after I read that him post. Not saying he has been perfect but I am not happy with how we have treated him.

He is probably the best option for that RB/RWB position but we are putting his future on the line again.

He messed up too, he was having a good time during the season we won fa cup until he started bringing up the midfield idea again
I think that was when wolves sold Doherty and was bidding him for 20m as replacement

Meanwhile Nelson had to sign a year extension or else he won't go on loan, these youths obviously don't like Arteta they will surely see his end

iamoyindamola:

Bros calm down abeg
You see apart from kokaneprodigy, I and that lunatic(he knows himself)
Every other persons here are very civil, e shock me as you call out Roland and I am sure others too will be surprised cos he's the least to go that route making snide remarks na miscommunication cause am
Make Una no vex

Na Arteta cause am

No, not that he was uncivil. He was referring to me, and I think it would have been better he mentioned me and quoted me directly. He has quoted and mentioned me before and I didn't feel offended or see the need to argue his opinion that was against mine then. I don't do dem dem talk. I think na woman talk...maybe I'm wrong... but it is the way I see it. ...But it's ok. I'm cool.

Thanks.

kokanepyramid:

At what point are we meant to laugh? Or are you still coming to add to this?

That awkward moment you try to b funny only to end up fooling yourself he needs attention and he is not going to get any here.

iamoyindamola:
All of a sudden, no one is staning xhaka
Failure no get friends true true

Nah a matter of 3 to 4 fluke games of his and you gonna see them hopping out to Stan him with nah Arteta no sabi use am, for a 4 different coach to use him and for Jose to build for him says a lot. Like coach like Fans

iamoyindamola:

He messed up too, he was having a good time during the season we won fa cup until he started bringing up the midfield idea again
I think that was when wolves sold Doherty and was bidding him for 20m as replacement

Meanwhile Nelson had to sign a year extension or else he won't go on loan, these youths obviously don't like Arteta they will surely see his end

He is entitled to have a desired position. Might not be to his strength and capability, it is the duty of a good coach to convince him and let him know where his best strength is.

That said I do not support his coming online to cry. He should rather walk into the door of Edu and Arteta and explain himself out. That to me would be more fruitful than this...Even if he is convinced to stay, at least he might get some assurances that he would have more game time. And if the assurance cannot be given, he should be allowed to leave. We got Odegaard because he was not given quality game-time assurance. So why keep another for same reason.

Roland17:


If I talk dem go say dem suppose dey fear and respect am as coach.. Infact dem use their real life experience take support Arteta’s decision..I come dey ask whether Arsenal don become military camp? Dem talk say na why him dey buy young players when go fear and respect am..I ask whether the player no go grow? I ask say what if Saka and ESR come speak up? Dem say na disrespect say we go sell them.. Because of one ego driven narcissist.

I for no vesk if him ego match his coaching skills