samuk:


Oops, I didn't see the dictionary evidence that says Benin are Yoruba. That one has faded after just one day of evidence. Every day you provide new evidence to support your lies.

TAO11 show us the dictionary evidence that proves Benin people are Yoruba. Don't be ashamed I am sure your fans will want to see it one more time.

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Did BobRISKY tell you about the LATINIZED name of Ogane?

KingOKON:
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Did BobRISKY tell you about the LATINIZED name of Ogane?

Her desperation knows no boundaries.

KingOKON:
It is too early for one to be smoking WEED
What part of the words Books, links or references don't you understand?
Anything you Ogane Weed smoking machine!

Even though you were sacred to promise that you will read (because you know you won’t), I will, none-the-less, provide the book/article as you requested.

The first known published work that features the name of Benin comes from the visit of D. P. Pereira to Benin in the late 1480s.

His volume (written in 1506) contains a mention of his visit to Ijebu that year where he wrote about the Ijebu moat, the trade, the largeness of the city, etc.

By the way, he also informed us that Benin has no walls. (p.183.) Oops! Did I have to let that out?

I’d have to cross it out with a line: [s]he also informed us that Benin has no walls[/s] Great!

Duarte Pacheco Pereira, “Esmeraldo De Situ Orbis,” (1506), page 182.

Peace to you, child. ✌

I must make sure samuk’s comment of the millennium appear on this last page.

Nah, we can’t just bury it on page 8 like that.

Give me a sec.

Here we go again guys:

samuk:
Editing my posts and quoting me out of context wouldn't help you. Your dictionary evidence have thoroughly disgraced, embarrassed and exposed you as fraud. I know you rely on the low IQ of your followers not to verify your submissions.

The issue of Oghene which you relied upon to teach the Benin people and the Oba of Benin that their Yoruba have fallen flat on it's face, it has gone up in flames, you are now too ashamed to put it up again. Editing my posts a d taking my comments out of context is now what you relied on.

You have referenced so called foreign experts, local experts, Nairalanders and yet your lies remains lies, the Benin people you have been trying to convinced for years that they and their Oba is Yoruba haven't yield an inch of ground.

Keep going, maybe you will be able to convince the Benin people how Yoruba they and their Oba are since this very important to you.

The project to convince Benin people that they and their Oba are Yoruba is a project TAO11 much complete.

TAO11 please show us one more time the Benin dictionary that says Benin people are Yoruba.

Haha! Nairalanders come and see something.

Samuk said I edited his comment in the attachment below.

Let me wake you up Samuk: It is impossible for me to edit your post when your post is shown to be coming directly under your name — rather than under mine.

Did I just have to explain that? LMAO!

Samuk, you are clinically deluded. Take this serious. My two cents.

nisai, gomojam, Christistruth00, Ofunwa111, rhektor, RedboneSmith

TAO12:

Even though you were sacred to promise that you will read (because you know you won’t), I will, none-the-less, provide the book/article as you requested.

The first known published work that features the name of Benin comes from the visit of D. P. Pereira to Benin in the late 1480s.

His volume (written in 1506) contains a mention of his visit to Ijebu that year where he wrote about the Ijebu moat, the trade, the largeness of the city, etc.

By the way, he also informed us that Benin has no walls. Oops! Did I have to let that out?

I’d have to cross it out with a line: [s]he also informed us that Benin has no walls[/s] Great!

Duarte Pacheco Pereira, Esmeraldo De Situ Orbis (1506), page 182.

Peace to you, child. ✌

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Who else was she going to mention? Now lemme have anything linking the Ijebus to the Europeans telling them about the "eyes dare not see" immortal King so that I can nail your coffin

TAO12:
Here we go again guys:

Haha! Nairalanders come and see something.

Samuk said I edited his comment in the attachment below.

Let me wake you up Samuk: It is impossible for me to edit your post when your post is shown to be coming directly under your name — rather than under mine.

Did I just have to explain that? LMAO!

Samuk, you are clinically deluded. Take this serious. My two cents.

Cc: nisai, gomojam, Christistruth00, Ofunwa111, rhektor, RedboneSmith

Let's wait for those you call upon. Let see if they are brain dead like yourself.

Whilst we wait, let me add these few lines.

You wasted my time yesterday explaining your dictionary evidence to you. You are either too slow to understand, or you were under the influence of intoxicant. Which was it?

I even advised you on two occasions to get your head cleared and sober before going back to read the dictionary.

I have to literally explain the content of your 4 lines dictionary word for word, line by line, it took hours, till this morning before you got the gist and you have now completely abandoned the dictionary.

Your today's evidence is Samuk submission you are trying to take and spin out of context. So what is today's evidence met to prove? That Benin and Oba of Benin are Yoruba?

Back to your dictionary evidence to prove that Benin people and Oba of Benin are Yoruba:

The Benin people have no respect for the Ooni of Ife at all. The Ooni was equated to a piece of Kola after breaking the full kola into 5 pieces.

In TAO11 lack of understanding of dictionary wordings, she thought her Ooni met God in heaven, I have to break it down to her that her Ooni in the context he was used in the Benin dictionary wasn't more than a piece of kola used for prayers to the gods.

After I finally drilled this definition into her blocked brain, she got the gist and withdraw the dictionary evidence.

Today, she wants to start with new distraction.

Thanks to TAO11 delusion, Nairalanders now know the meaning of Ooni in the Benin dictionary. Oghene when used to refer to the Ooni of Ife means a piece of kola, after the kola is broken into five pieces. In the Benin dictionary, the Ooni is not up to a full kola, it's not even up to half a kola, Ooni is 1 fifth, 1 part of a kola after it's broken into 5 pieces.

Let her resubmit the dictionary evidence if shame will allow her to do so.

KingOKON:
Who else was she going to mention? Now lemme have anything linking the Ijebus to the Europeans telling them about the "eyes dare not see" immortal King so that I can nail your coffin

I know exactly when I knock a tooth out of a Bini liar.

Clue: No intelligent (or even pseudo-intelligent point can be mustered by such Bini.

See ehn, you have tried for Benin kingdom. Na man you be. Rest. LMAO!
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Now let me have anything linking Benin kingdom to the Europeans telling them of any relationship with Itsekiris prior to the beginning of British conquest of Southern Nigeria.

After all Binis must have a long time relationship with the Itsekiris; and Europeans have been trading in the region since the late-1400s. Oya do, I’m waiting.

samuk:


Let's wait for those you call upon. Let see if they are brain dead like yourself.

Whilst we wait, let me add these few lines.

You wasted my time yesterday explaining your dictionary evidence to you. You are either too slow to understand, or you were under the influence of intoxicant. Which was it?

I even advised you on two occasions to get your head cleared and sober before going back to read the dictionary.

I have to literally explain the content of your 4 lines dictionary word for word, line by line, it took hours, till this morning before you got the gist and you have now completely abandoned the dictionary.

Your today's evidence is Samuk submission you are trying to take and spin out of context. So what is today's evidence met to prove? That Benin and Oba of Benin are Yoruba?

Back to your dictionary evidence to prove that Benin people and Oba of Benin are Yoruba:

The Benin people have no respect for the Ooni of Ife at all. The Ooni was equated to a piece of Kola after breaking the full kola into 5 pieces.

In TAO11 lack of understanding of dictionary wordings, she thought her Ooni met God in heaven, I have to break it down to her that her Ooni in the context he was used in the Benin dictionary wasn't more than a piece of kola used for prayers to the gods.

After I finally drilled this definition into her blocked brain, she got the gist and withdraw the dictionary evidence.

Today, she wants to start with new distraction.

Thanks to TAO11 delusion, Nairalanders now know the meaning of Ooni in the Benin dictionary. Oghene when used to refer to the Ooni of Ife means a piece of kola, after the kola is broken into five pieces. In the Benin dictionary, the Ooni is not up to a full kola, it's not even up to half a kola, Ooni is 1 fifth, 1 part of a kola after it's broken into 5 pieces.

Let her resubmit the dictionary evidence if shame will allow her to do so.

Wow! So can you please show us where anyone has claimed that Bini people are Yoruba? What we've always maintained here is that your Ọba is a full Yoruba man and y'all Edo are his slaves

Cc
TAO11

TAO12:
I know exactly when I knock a tooth out of a Bini liar.

Clue: No intelligent (or even pseudo-intelligent point can be mustered by such Bini.

See ehn, you have tried for Benin kingdom. Na man you be. Rest. LMAO!
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Now let me have anything linking Benin kingdom to the Europeans telling them of any relationship with Itsekiris prior to the beginning of British conquest of Southern Nigeria.

After all Binis must have a long time relationship with the Itsekiris; and Europeans have been trading in the region since the late-1400s. Oya do, I’m waiting.

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Dry, smoke some more Ogane weed maybe I will laugh then.....

According to BobRISKY, from 1400s to sometimes in 1890s a suzerain to the Oba was in the know both by the locals and most Europeans. An immortal that eyes dare not see, in her exact words in Yoruba because what was spoken needed "SPIRITUAL INTERPRETATION"
“Ibi ojúmọ́ ti ń mọ́ wá”. The said all powerful king resided to the East( SPIRITUAL) of the Oba......Ogane Weed smokers history

To clarify further, the King of the Ijebus also in the 1400s did same, reporting of an all powerful king, his needs no SPIRITUAL interpretation because the King of the Ijebus spoke in precise Yoruba.......( no be small thing)

If the Ijebu king also reported of the said powerful king, then we all be rest assured that the Alaffin of Oyo Empire and every other Yoruba king together with the Oba all knew of this "eyes dare not see king" a suzerain to them all. ....(Isn't that wonder, a king of kings and lord of lords all under his domain)

For over 400years the Europeans after receiving this reports of the said suzerain never for once met his emissaries in Benin and Ijebu, instead within the territory Yoruba land to be precise, all manners of wars between Oyos, Ibadans, Egbas, Ijebus, Ifes, Ekitis, was forever raging on under the territory of a suzerain king an immortal that eyes dare not see....(I guess the Ogane just stays in the bush all year round)

The Ijebu King reported to the Europeans of a suzerain, but when the sons of Mohammed came calling, BobRISKY the Ogane weed smoking machine did the Ijebus and other Kings reported of any such NONSENSE to them, rather most of this so called kings got converted and till this moment are bearing Islamic names while the so called descendants of your Ogane attends Church services. The sons of Mohammed were never told of Ogane the Suzerain of all but you want me to believe all your NONSENSE of an Ogane that the sons of Mohammed never heard or were told of.

Between the Oba palace and your Suzerain subjects which traditional institute has been the most diluted?
how has the external religion affected the Royal institution of the Oba and the others under your imaginary Ogane?

This imaginary and weed smoking suzerain you are trying to create to massage your empty history that doesn't come anywhere close the Oba and his empire will do you no good.
Till the end of this world never you compare your empty past and history to that of the Oba, your village stories you are trying to glamorize by spinning it here and there with everyday new tales will never sell.
Your never had any SUZERAIN, never had anything, just TALES and FABLES of village stories.

Ogane WEED is very very dangerous

rhektor:

Wow! So can you please show us where anyone has claimed that Bini people are Yoruba? What we've always maintained here is that your Ọba is a full Yoruba man and y'all Edo are his slaves

Cc
TAO11

Well, atleast two Obas of Benin have categorically denied being Yoruba. Infact the last two were very explicit in denying being Yoruba. Should I believe you or them.

samuk:


Let's wait for those you call upon. Let see if they are brain dead like yourself.

Whilst we wait, let me add these few lines.

You wasted my time yesterday explaining your dictionary evidence to you. You are either too slow to understand, or you were under the influence of intoxicant. Which was it?

I even advised you on two occasions to get your head cleared and sober before going back to read the dictionary.

I have to literally explain the content of your 4 lines dictionary word for word, line by line, it took hours, till this morning before you got the gist and you have now completely abandoned the dictionary.

Your today's evidence is Samuk submission you are trying to take and spin out of context. So what is today's evidence met to prove? That Benin and Oba of Benin are Yoruba?

Back to your dictionary evidence to prove that Benin people and Oba of Benin are Yoruba:

The Benin people have no respect for the Ooni of Ife at all. The Ooni was equated to a piece of Kola after breaking the full kola into 5 pieces.

In TAO11 lack of understanding of dictionary wordings, she thought her Ooni met God in heaven, I have to break it down to her that her Ooni in the context he was used in the Benin dictionary wasn't more than a piece of kola used for prayers to the gods.

After I finally drilled this definition into her blocked brain, she got the gist and withdraw the dictionary evidence.

Today, she wants to start with new distraction.

Thanks to TAO11 delusion, Nairalanders now know the meaning of Ooni in the Benin dictionary. Oghene when used to refer to the Ooni of Ife means a piece of kola, after the kola is broken into five pieces. In the Benin dictionary, the Ooni is not up to a full kola, it's not even up to half a kola, Ooni is 1 fifth, 1 part of a kola after it's broken into 5 pieces.

Let her resubmit the dictionary evidence if shame will allow her to do so.

Wow! So can you please show us where anyone has claimed that Bini people are Yoruba? What we've always maintained here is that your Ọba is a full Yoruba man and y'all Edo are his slaves

Cc
TAO11

samuk:


Well, atleast two Obas of Benin have categorically denied being Yoruba. Infact the last two were very explicit in denying being Yoruba. Should I believe you or them.

Mention them and let the whole world know that they are not children of the person they claim that their father is

rhektor:


Mention them and let the whole world know that they are not children of the person they claim that their father is

show us the Oba that said he was Yoruba and show us were he said it. This should be the simplest of assignment to you.

samuk:
show us the Oba that said he was Yoruba and show us were he said it. This should be the simplest of assignment to you.

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Even the Devil can't stand their lies

rhektor:

Wow! So can you please show us where anyone has claimed that Bini people are Yoruba? What we've always maintained here is that your Ọba is a full Yoruba man and y'all Edo are his slaves

Cc
TAO11

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samuk read this very SWEET NEWS though it is something the world already knows

http://punchng.com/bini-not-yoruba-are-original-owners-of-lagos-ajayi-bembe/

KingOKON:
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samuk read this very SWEET NEWS though it is something the world already knows

http://punchng.com/bini-not-yoruba-are-original-owners-of-lagos-ajayi-bembe/

I hope some of their Igbo supporters see this. One argument worn, next, they will deny saying Oba of Benin is Yoruba.

KingOKON:
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samuk read this very SWEET NEWS though it is something the world already knows

http://punchng.com/bini-not-yoruba-are-original-owners-of-lagos-ajayi-bembe/

Different parts of Lagos were owned by different people, some parts like Ikorodu were owned by the Ijebu meanwhile other parts like Kuramo were owned by the Bini it is a diverse mix

Abohboy:


Different parts of Lagos were owned by different people, some parts like Ikorodu were owned by the Ijebu meanwhile other parts like Kuramo were owned by the Bini it is a diverse mix

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Fact is, the Oba was mightier and influential more than any Yoruba chiefs until his exile to calabar

KingOKON:
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samuk read this very SWEET NEWS though it is something the world already knows

http://punchng.com/bini-not-yoruba-are-original-owners-of-lagos-ajayi-bembe/

What is this trash again? How many times would y'all repeat this nonsense on nairaland?

rhektor:


What is this trash again? How many times would y'all repeat this nonsense on nairaland?

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Who are you? I bet must be from Ogbomosho or Tinubus paternal village

rhektor:
What is this trash again? How many times would y'all repeat this nonsense on nairaland?

Better still, how many times shall it be debunked gan when Oba Akiolu himself said clearly on video that Lagos does not belong to Benin?

Ajayi Bembe ko, Ajao Bobo ni. Lol.

TAO11:
Better still, how many times shall it be debunked gan when Oba Akiolu himself said clearly on video that Lagos does not belong to Benin?

Ajayi Bembe ko, Ajao Bobo ni. Lol.

Abohboy:
Different parts of Lagos were owned by different people, some parts like Ikorodu were owned by the Ijebu meanwhile other parts like Kuramo were owned by the Bini it is a diverse mix

This narrative has been debunked by the the Lagos traditions numerous times.

Benin, in the past, owned only the piece of the island which was conferred to it by the native owners.

Other immigrants owned a different piece of the same island as conferred to them by the natives.

Outside of the island, no other piece of land in “Lagos” was conferred on any immigrant by the Aworis.

So, when we use the word “owned,” we must use it in the actual historical context, so it doesn’t appear as if it’s aboriginal ownership or ownership by force.

Here is how the Lagos traditions (which is earlier than the later-day reactive Benin accounts) put it:

“Some little time after the Olofin's death there began the peaceful penetration into Lagos of settlers from Benin. The Binis probably realised that they would not be able to occupy Lagos by force, as they had already been so decisively beaten in their attacks on Iddo, and it is thought that they were also prevented from further aggression by superstitious fear, the dying wife of the Olofin having pronounced a terrible curse on any further invaders from Benin. Whatever may have been the reason, the Binis arrived with no great show of force, and permission was asked of the Lagos people for them to land. This permission was granted, probably with no very good grace, although at that time Lagos island was very sparsely inhabited and there must have been room for many more settlers.”

~ Sir Alan C. Burns, “History of Nigeria,” 1929, p.43.

Cc: rhektor, nisai

TAO12:
Here we go again guys:

Haha! Nairalanders come and see something.

Samuk said I edited his comment in the attachment below.

Let me wake you up Samuk: It is impossible for me to edit your post when your post is shown to be coming directly under your name — rather than under mine.

Did I just have to explain that? LMAO!

Samuk, you are clinically deluded. Take this serious. My two cents.

nisai, gomojam, Christistruth00, Ofunwa111, rhektor, RedboneSmith

where can we say he is wrong there abi you nor get brain ni, in That comment you quoted he is so right. The Ooni of Ife is Oghene'n'uhe, in the case of the Ooni it is streamlined to mean god of Ife or Ife people. When you say Oghene in Benin, nothing close to the Ife or their king will resonate, you have to add N'uhe for it to make any meaning. Another classic example is Osa'negor, the Enogie of Egor who was referred to as the god of Egor in Benin, he holds the record of one of the oldest king in Benin predating the present dynasty. When you mention Osa, it won't make any meaning in reference to Egor. But when you add N'egor it would. Get a life, you will need one

EDORODION:
[s]where can we say he is wrong there abi you nor get brain ni, in That comment you quoted he is so right. The Ooni of Ife is Oghene'n'uhe, in the case of the Ooni it is streamlined to mean god of Ife or Ife people. When you say Oghene in Benin, nothing close to the Ife or their king will resonate, you have to add N'uhe for it to make any meaning. Another classic example is Osa'negor, the Enogie of Egor who was referred to as the god of Egor in Benin, he holds the record of one of the oldest king in Benin predating the present dynasty. When you mention Osa, it won't make any meaning in reference to Egor. But when you add N'egor it would. Get a life, you will need one[/s]

UGBE634 (aka EDORODION, aka OLOKUN175, aka EKABA691, aka OGUN622) mind ya sef oo.

It’s too early for you to be serving crap. Ó ṣe àárọ̀

Peace!

TAO11:
UGBE634 (aka EDORODION, aka OLOKUN175, aka EKABA691, aka OGUN622) mind your sef oo.

It’s too early for you to be serving crap. Ó ṣe àárọ̀

Peace!

Another Example has been given to you you can go and die low self esteem bastard

EDORODION:
Another Example has been given to you you can go and die low self esteem bastard

You are sad, UGBE.

I know I broke your heart.

But that was never my intention.

The dictionary of Benin Language did not include Uhe beside oghene before the Binis equate it as Ooni Ife.

Peace comes with truth. Kiss the truth today.

TAO11:
You must be really sad, UGBE. I know I broke your heart. But that was never my intention.

The dictionary of Benin Language did not include Uhe beside oghene before the Binis equate it as Ooni Ife.

Peace comes with truth.

Then that dictionary is not for those down south of Edo. You cannot forge history for us(quite alright we were not there and still forge words for us. As an authority of the language I make bold to tell you that the dictionary is incorrect in that sense. Take heart my sister, my evidence above already clarified that

No, you’re not an authority on Bini language, sweety. A linguist of Bini language is.

And one of such linguist is Hans Melzian. So, see the attached again for where he pointed out the fact that the Bini word “oghene” has more than one meaning, one of which is the name Ooni. He didn’t have to add “n-Uhe” to the “oghene” in order to realize this.

EDORODION:
[s]Then that dictionary is not for those down south of Edo. You cannot forge history for us(quite alright we were not there and still forge words for us. As an authority of the language I make bold to tell you that the dictionary is incorrect in that sense. Take heart my sister, my evidence above already clarified that[/s]

Have you noticed that when history points out stuffs ‘good’ about Benin, you all accept it?

But when history point out what appears to you all to be embarrassing (even though it’s coming from same historical & linguistic authorities), you cry persecution.

In other words, the whole world is somehow against you to catch you. LMAO!

Is this observed trend the result of some PTSD, or is this simply the result of paranoid personality disorder?

You all may have to book an appointment as a whole ethnic group with some psychiatrist.

Or you all may just simply grow up, to accept the fact that life happens and certain things already happened in the past which present emotions can’t change.

Your dictionary of Bini language was written by Hans Melzian, with Bini informants in critical instances, and published in far away London.

The whole world is not out to catch you. The same folks who point out what you feel are lows about are those who also pointed out some of your [little] highs.

Peace!

TAO11:
No, you’re not an authority on Bini language, sweety. A linguist of Bini language is.

And one of such linguist is Hans Melzian. So, see the attached again for where he pointed out the fact that the Bini word “oghene” has more than one meaning, one of which is the name Ooni. He didn’t have to add “n-Uhe” to the “oghene” in order to realize this.

Have you noticed that when history points out stuffs ‘good’ about Benin, you all accept it?

But when history point out what appears to you all to be embarrassing (even though it’s coming from same historical & linguistic authorities), you cry persecution.

In other words, the whole world is somehow against you to catch you. LMAO!

Is this observed trend the result of some PTSD, or is this simply the result of a paranoid disorder?

You all may have to book an appointment as a whole ethnic group with some psychiatrist.

Or you all may just simply grow up, to accept the fact that life happens and certain things already happened in the past which present emotions can’t change.

Your dictionary of Bini language was written by Hans Melzian, with Bini informants in critical instances, and published in far away London.

The whole world is not out to catch you. The same folks who point out what you feel are lows about are those who also pointed out some of your [little] highs.

Peace!

My sister live in your delusions, I am done with you, your Ooni is not that Important, it would only be foolhardy and delusional to think a whole Oghene would be attributed to your Ooni. I am not saying it is not correct, I have said it is not for those down south of Edo

Maybe Awolowo and Egharevba, the yoruba man with a Bini man followed her too