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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by OKAIGUN252: 10:36am On Aug 31, 2021
[quote author=TAO11 post=105347566][/quote]help my self for what I should be telling you that, to see that no Bini resonate with what you post is that not stupidity. Help yourself my sister

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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO11(f): 10:37am On Aug 31, 2021
OKAIGUN252:
[s]help my self for what I should be telling you that, to see that no Bini resonate with what you post is that not stupidity. Help yourself my sister[/s]

https://www.nairaland.com/6697675/power-oba-benin-wield-past/9#105347398

Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by OKAIGUN252: 10:40am On Aug 31, 2021
TAO11:


https://www.nairaland.com/6697675/power-oba-benin-wield-past/9#105347398
why are you so adamant on stupidity, you think you can always have the last word not me not with me I have battery and I have your time. Even in the face of glaring evidence you still decide to be stupid

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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by KingOKON: 10:40am On Aug 31, 2021
TAO11:


https://www.nairaland.com/6697675/power-oba-benin-wield-past/9#105346648


I will get back to you on the Ryder of a Guy and his works, pray to OLUDUMARE it doesn't hit you the way the OBA of Benin hit Lagos with Cannon in the year 1602
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO11(f): 10:46am On Aug 31, 2021
KingOKON:
[s]Iwill get back to you on the Ryder of a Guy and his works, pray to OLUDUMARE it doesn't hit you the way the OBA of Benin hit Lagos with Cannon in the year 1602[/s]
Please get back to me on Ryder, I need you to debunk him. grin

CANNON ko, KANGAROO ni. Hahah cheesy

Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO11(f): 10:47am On Aug 31, 2021
https://www.nairaland.com/6697675/power-oba-benin-wield-past/9#105347398

OKAIGUN252:
why are you so adamant on stupidity, you think you can always have the last word not me not with me I have battery and I have your time. Even in the face of glaring evidence you still decide to be stupid
Okay, I will let you have the last word.

So you can at least have something.cheesy

Hahaha ;grin

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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by OKAIGUN252: 10:49am On Aug 31, 2021
TAO11:
https://www.nairaland.com/6697675/power-oba-benin-wield-past/9#105347398

Okay, I will let you have the last word.

So you can at least have something. D cheesy

Hahaha ;grin
What is so sad is that you know the truth but you just want to mislead the public

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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO11(f): 10:53am On Aug 31, 2021
OKAIGUN252:
What is so sad is that you know the truth but you just want to mislead the public
Bini Dictionary attached.

Abi you need Japanese dictionary — since your oba cOnQuErEd JaPaN?

Haha cheesy grin

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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by OKAIGUN252: 10:55am On Aug 31, 2021
TAO11:

Bini Dictionary attached.

Abi you need Japanese dictionary — since your oba cOnQuErEd JaPaN?

Haha cheesy grin


And no Bini fit relate with wetin you dae talk that one nor be juju grin Egharevba the yoruba man with a Bini name hand dae inside you nor see am

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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO11(f): 10:59am On Aug 31, 2021
BINI Dictionary:

“Oghene” Ooni (among 2 other meanings)

OKAIGUN252:
[s]And no Bini fit relate with wetin you dae talk that one nor be juju grin Egharevba the yoruba man with a Bini name hand dae inside you nor see am[/s]
UGBE, after I’m done debunking you, you would have woken up from your delusions as you had promised to do. cheesy grin

Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by OKAIGUN252: 11:01am On Aug 31, 2021
TAO11:
UGBE, after I’m done debunking you, you would have woken up from your delusions as you had promised to do. cheesy grin
Egharevba grew up in Ekiti, and also with a yoruba mother, he is with a yoruba voice grin my sister. A Bini man that only returned to Benin for the first time in 1911 after 18 years cannot be trusted, not only was he yoruba by acculturation, he was also maternally yoruba.

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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO11(f): 11:10am On Aug 31, 2021
OKAIGUN252:
[s]Egharevba grew up in Ekiti, and also with a yoruba mother, he is with a yoruba voice grin my sister[/s]
You finally settled for “Egharevba is a Bini man (but his mom is Yoruba)”.

Instead of your earlier, Egharevba is a Yoruba man. Una see what TAO can make liars do? cheesy cheesy.

So, Akenzua was a great dullard/illiterate who couldn’t figure from Egharevba’s works that he hates his own people so much?? grin cheesy

Try another pleading. This Egharevba own have cast.

LMAO! cheesy

. cheesy

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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by OKAIGUN252: 11:11am On Aug 31, 2021
TAO11:
You finally settled for “Egharevba is a Bini man (but his mom is Yoruba)”.

Instead of your earlier, Egharevba is a Yoruba man. Una see what TAO can make liars do? cheesy cheesy.

So, Akenzua was a great dullard/illiterate who couldn’t figure from Egharevba’s works that he hates his own people so much?? grin cheesy

Try another pleading. This Egharevba own have cast.

LMAO! cheesy

. cheesy
A Bini man that only returned to Benin for the first time in 1911 after 18 years cannot be trusted, not only was he yoruba by acculturation, he was also maternally yoruba. grin So I was safe when I called him a yoruba man with a Benin name

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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by KingOKON: 11:13am On Aug 31, 2021
TAO11:
Please get back to me on Ryder, I need you to debunk him. grin

CANNON ko, KANGAROO ni. Hahah cheesy
.

Like you debunked spiritual philosophical logical and mathematical existing of the "eyes dare not see" Ogane.

....hehehehehe

Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO11(f): 11:20am On Aug 31, 2021
OKAIGUN252:
[s]A Bini man that only returned to Benin for the first time in 1911 after 18 years cannot be trusted, not only was he yoruba by acculturation, he was also maternally yoruba. grin[/s]
In Summary:

His father— Bini

His mother —partly Yoruba partly Bini.

Therefore, he chose to hate his Bini heritage.

The Benin oba got bLiNd and couldn’t see his works.

LMAO! cheesy See this pleading is dumb. It has casted. You Binis should come up with another pleading NOW!

Peace! cheesy

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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO11(f): 11:22am On Aug 31, 2021
KingOKON:
[s]Like you debunked spiritual philosophical logical and mathematical existing of the "eyes dare not see" Ogane...hehehehehe[/s]
https://www.nairaland.com/6697675/power-oba-benin-wield-past/9#105346648
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by OKAIGUN252: 11:27am On Aug 31, 2021
TAO11:
In summary:

His father— Bini

His mother —partly Yoruba partly Bini.

Therefore, he chose to hate his Bini heritage.

The Benin oba got bLiNd and couldn’t see his works.

LMAO! cheesy See this pleading is dumb. It has casted. You Binis should work on another pleading NOW!

Peace! cheesy






Egharevba na Yoruba man period cheesy you can't spend eighteen years in yorubaland and be seen to represent our interest. Your worldview is already perverted grin, I am not pleading why will I be pleading for what I know is right he was not so educated, these things are neglible and it is not in contention. he would have told the Oba it is alright, everything went well and it would pass. Little wonder his son criticized him on several stance, why can't anyone relate to what is there if you come to Bini today you will be shocked no one can relate with it. Who them write am for na Benin republic people grin There are bound to be mistakes here and there and that is one of the Obvious mistakes there

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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO11(f): 11:33am On Aug 31, 2021
OKAIGUN252:
[s] Egharevba na Yoruba man period cheesy you can't spend eighteen years in yorubaland and be seen to represent our interest. Your worldview is already perverted grin, I am not pleading why will I be pleading for what I know is right he was not so educated, these things are neglible and it is not in contention. he would have told the Oba it is alright, everything went well and it would pass. Little wonder his son criticized him on several stance, why can't anyone relate to what is there if you come to Bini today you will be shocked no one can relate with it. Who them write am for na Benin republic people grin There are bound to be mistakes here and there and that is one of the Obvious mistakes there[/s]
Erediauwa spent years abroad. While Egharevba (Bini dad, Bini/Yoruba mom) was closer to Benin. cheesy

So Akenzua lost his sight & couldn’t see the content of Egharevba’s works from 1930s—1960s? grin

Try another pleading. This Egharevba own have cast.

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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by OKAIGUN252: 11:39am On Aug 31, 2021
TAO11:
Erediauwa spent years abroad. Egharevba was closer to Benin. cheesy

So Akenzua lost his sight that he couldn’t see the content of Egharevba’s works from 1930s—1960s.

Try another pleading. This Egharevba own have cast.
Abroad that you are talking about is a neutral ground grin and also he spent his first ten years or more in Bini, Egharevba or not that is a mistake, more than five million Binis no one will relate with that story. There are bound to be mistakes in Books whether there is interest to gain or not, that text right there elude them. If she interact with me and several other Binis, those stationed in Bini and everywhere not even an Edo'n'ekhue will relate with that piece, so I ask again who Dem write am for grin maybe there are other mistakes there sef if one carefully scrutinized that dictionary. Would you expect it just be perfect, would you?

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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO11(f): 11:42am On Aug 31, 2021
OKAIGUN252:
[s]Abroad that you are talking about is a neutral ground grin and also he spent his first ten years or more in Bini, Egharevba or not that is a mistake, more than five million Binis no one will relate with that story. There are bound to be mistakes in Books whether there is interest to gain or not, that text right there elude them. If she interact with me and several other Binis, those stationed in Bini and everywhere not even an Edo'n'ekhue will relate with that piece, so I ask again who Dem write am for grin maybe there are other mistakes there sef if one carefully scrutinized that dictionary. Would you expect it just be perfect, would you?[/s]
You probably read with your eyes closed: grin

Erediauwa spent years abroad. While Egharevba (Bini dad, Bini/Yoruba mom) was closer to Benin. cheesy

So oba Akenzua lost his sight and couldn’t see the content of Egharevba’s works from 1930s—1960s?

Try another pleading. This Egharevba own have cast.

grin

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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by OKAIGUN252: 11:46am On Aug 31, 2021
TAO11:
You probably read with your eyes closed:

Erediauwa spent years abroad. While Egharevba (Bini dad, Bini/Yoruba mom) was closer to Benin. cheesy

So oba Akenzua lost his sight and couldn’t see the content of Egharevba’s works from 1930s—1960s?

Try another pleading. This Egharevba own have cast.

grin
It is beyond Eredieuwa, this one is not the Izoduwa tale, stop making it sound it is like it. If you go to the deepest part of Urhonigbe(120 kilometers east of Benin, you will find it there, it was an obvious mistake on their part and it is Okay to make mistakes

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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO11(f): 11:49am On Aug 31, 2021
The Erediauwa angle is a mockery of your crap on influence of foreign society. Perhaps Erediauwa’s fiction ruminated while he was away from home.

OKAIGUN252:
[s]It is beyond Eredieuwa, this one is not the Izoduwa tale, stop making it sound it is like it. If you go to the deepest part of Urhonigbe(120 kilometers east of Benin, you will find it there, it was an obvious mistake on their part and it is Okay to make mistakes[/s]
Until you make use of your brain you may never get the import of the question below.

And I will NOT come down to your level. grin

So oba Akenzua lost his sight and couldn’t see the content of Egharevba’s works from 1930s—1960s?

The Egharevba pleading have indeed casted.

Peace. cheesy

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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by OKAIGUN252: 11:52am On Aug 31, 2021
TAO11:
The Erediauwa angle is a mockery of your crap on influence of foreign society. Perhaps Erediauwa’s fiction ruminated while he was away from home.

Until you make use of your brain you may never get the import the question below.

And I’m not planning to come down to your level.


I swear na you go need make use of your brain o grin before 1978 it has been there my father and grandparents have always refered to him as the Oghene'n'uhe. Some Benins don't subscribe to the Bini Ife tale but no one not even from Usen will refer to him as the Oghene, he don Baffgrin.

TAO11:
So oba Akenzua lost his sight and couldn’t see the content of Egharevba’s works from 1930s—1960s?
This one is negligible, na to go dae carry dictionary go dae read na he be he work?. He might rule for 45 years and not even pick the dictionary for once! Stop making it seem like his work is to read dictionary. I am just seeing this dictionary for the first time. The few times he might pick it up he won't turn to that side, If not that you quoted that place directly, we won't have seen it, If I was given the dictionary to inspect, I won't spot that maybe spot others
TAO11:

And I’m not planning to come down to your level.
Because I did it with you, you don't want to come down to my level, "I was like your own don too much" let us see who will have the last laugh. Your never giving up spirit Even in the face of glaring evidence is foolhardy. Because they are scholars they couldn't have made mistakes even by Omission, a language I have spoken for several decades haha!

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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO11(f): 12:29pm On Aug 31, 2021
Oh, you already abandoned the Egharevba pleading because you’re aware Akenzua wasn’t blind. cheesy

Who would have expected that you would make use of your brain in that regards. Hahaha. cheesy

OKAIGUN252:
[s]I swear na you go need make use of your brain o grin before 1978 it has been there my father and grandparents have always refered to him as the Oghene'n'uhe. Some Benins don't subscribe to the Bini Ife tale but no one not even from Usen will refer to him as the Oghene, he don Baffgrin.

This one is negligible, na to go dae carry dictionary go dae read na he be he work?. He might rule for 45 years and not even pick the dictionary for once! Stop making it seem like his work is to read dictionary. I am just seeing this dictionary for the first time. The few times he might pick it up he won't turn to that side, If not that you quoted that place directly, we won't have seen it, If I was given the dictionary to inspect, I won't spot that maybe spot others
Because I did it with you, you don't want to come down to my level, "I was like your own don too much" let us see who will have the last laugh. Your never giving up spirit Even in the face of glaring evidence is foolhardy. Because they are scholars they couldn't have made mistakes even by Omission, a language I have spoken for several decades haha![/s]
Your Your Dictionary of Bini Language says:

The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popularity of usage & context as follows.

(A) oghene Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene A piece from a five-piece kola.

Everybody respects authorities like Melzian, nobody knows UGBE634, aka EDORODION, aka OLOKUN175, aka EKABA691, aka OGUN622, aka OKAIGUN252.

Sorry oo. cheesy

Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by OKAIGUN252: 12:38pm On Aug 31, 2021
TAO11:
Oh, you already abandoned the Egharevba pleading because you’re aware Akenzua wasn’t blind.

Who would have expected that you would make use of your brain in that regards.
No one said Akenzua was blind but that his work was not to check dictionary every other day because he was a first speaker of the Language grin Na you go need the dictionary just like I don't need it and as well I don't need a French dictionary. By bringing Egharevba into it, I was looking at the reasons from all Angles, that is why I also brought Omission as a possible cause of it being like that. you were The one that was making it an Egharevba vs Eredieuwa argument not knowing that the term has been there before 1978. This brain wey you dae talk na you go need am grin




TAO11:


(B) oghene Ooni of Ife.
and over 5 million Binis has said that was an error on their parts that it has been Oghene'n'uhe say the Ooni nor Baff reach there to call am Oghene grin Parading the thread with your bullshit making the people feel it is Oghene and not Oghene'n'uhe, you can no longer publish grin your lies without being rebuked


TAO11:

Everybody respects authorities like Melzian, nobody knows UGBE634, aka EDORODION, aka OLOKUN175, aka EKABA691, aka OGUN622, aka OKAIGUN252.
stop deflecting from the argument, all this one na style. Nobody knows Ugbe,samuk,Okaigun and Others but they are Binis right grin that dictionary na Owo dictionary? grin so the language in contention here knows them, grin Nobody know us for history, okay quite alright, we were not there.

Again a language I am a first speaker Haba! I am an authority she is not, she got her knowledge from Bini speakers like me who must have distributed that in Error or purely it's a case of Omission. Nobody know her in Benin, it is what she got she wrote down and I alongside with other Binis are telling you confidently that it is in error! More Binis will still tell you in Future. If you come to Bini they will still tell you.

In this language, the issue of "you are not known"does not matter, this is a language I am a speaker, I challenge you to ask any Benin, those who can speak the language whether they grew up in yorubaland or elsewhere, the Ones that are 40 years and above, you can't get a different answer anywhere I challenge you! So this is beyond me. Not that the language has died out, I have not seen hardened foolishness like this before, haba! At least that will help you reach a consensus if it's true or not. if you can get speakers of at least 80 years better or maybe sixty. Those who were already 18 before Eredieuwa's coronation.

You think you are the only one that can rough, you are frustrated and you result to tantrum. When did Binis start worshipping a Man, Oghene Kor, Ogietor ni, how could Eredieuwa have invented a term that has been there before he was born let alone before he was coronated. This is the first time I am seeing it like that I am shocked just like every other Binis would so it is beyond Eredieuwa and the Izoduwa tale.
TAO11:

Sorry oo. :
low self esteem mumu na you go need your sorry o grin you dae find who you wan dominate you nor go dominate Ilorin grin

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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by KingOKON: 12:58pm On Aug 31, 2021
TAO11:
https://www.nairaland.com/6697675/power-oba-benin-wield-past/9#105346648


Please read out their full names as known, I want to check smtin
Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO11(f): 6:12pm On Aug 31, 2021
OKAIGUN252:
[s]No one said Akenzua was blind but that his work was not to check dictionary every other day because he was a first speaker of the Language grin Na you go need the dictionary just like I don't need it and as well I don't need a French dictionary. By bringing Egharevba into it, I was looking at the reasons from all Angles, that is why I also brought Omission as a possible cause of it being like that. you were The one that was making it an Egharevba vs Eredieuwa argument not knowing that the term has been there before 1978. This brain wey you dae talk na you go need am grin




and over 5 million Binis has said that was an error on their parts that it has been Oghene'n'uhe say the Ooni nor Baff reach there to call am Oghene grin Parading the thread with your bullshit making the people feel it is Oghene and not Oghene'n'uhe, you can no longer publish grin your lies without being rebuked


stop deflecting from the argument, all this one na style. Nobody knows Ugbe,samuk,Okaigun and Others but they are Binis right grin that dictionary na Owo dictionary? grin so the language in contention here knows them, grin Nobody know us for history, okay quite alright, we were not there.

Again a language I am a first speaker Haba! I am an authority she is not, she got her knowledge from Bini speakers like me who must have distributed that in Error or purely it's a case of Omission. Nobody know her in Benin, it is what she got she wrote down and I alongside with other Binis are telling you confidently that it is in error! More Binis will still tell you in Future. If you come to Bini they will still tell you.

In this language, the issue of "you are not known"does not matter, this is a language I am a speaker, I challenge you to ask any Benin, those who can speak the language whether they grew up in yorubaland or elsewhere, the Ones that are 40 years and above, you can't get a different answer anywhere I challenge you! So this is beyond me. Not that the language has died out, I have not seen hardened foolishness like this before, haba! At least that will help you reach a consensus if it's true or not. if you can get speakers of at least 80 years better or maybe sixty. Those who were already 18 before Eredieuwa's coronation.

You think you are the only one that can rough, you are frustrated and you result to tantrum. When did Binis start worshipping a Man, Oghene Kor, Ogietor ni, how could Eredieuwa have invented a term that has been there before he was born let alone before he was coronated. This is the first time I am seeing it like that I am shocked just like every other Binis would so it is beyond Eredieuwa and the Izoduwa tale.
low self esteem mumu na you go need your sorry o grin you dae find who you wan dominate you nor go dominate Ilorin grin[/s]
A long piece of crappy excuses.

UGBE, listen to this: My king is your God.

Reference: Dictionary of Bini Language.

Peace! cheesy

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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO11(f): 6:22pm On Aug 31, 2021
KingOKON:
Please read out their full names as known, I want to check smtin
Is everything okay?

cheesy

Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by OKAIGUN252: 6:29pm On Aug 31, 2021
TAO11:
A long piece of crappy excuses.

UGBE, listen to this: My king is your God.

Reference: Dictionary of Bini Language.

Peace! cheesy
I have thrown you a challenge, this is beyond Okaigun, Ugbe, samuk or any Bini you don't know this because you' ve not been out of Oshogbo before go to Benin or elsewhere. At least ask a minimum of nothing less than 30 persons and see if the dictionary was written for or by Binis or is actually an Owo dictionary. Your king is Bini god only in your dreams and delusions

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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by TAO11(f): 6:39pm On Aug 31, 2021
OKAIGUN252:
[s]I have thrown you a challenge, this is beyond Okaigun, Ugbe, samuk or any Bini you don't know this because you' ve not been out of Oshogbo before go to Benin or elsewhere. At least ask a minimum of nothing less than 30 persons and see if the dictionary was written for or by Binis or is actually an Owo dictionary. Your king is Bini god only in your dreams and delusions[/s]
UGBE, listen to me.

Whenever in the middle of a debate (especially on a faceless forum), you must bring your evidence.

You’ve been giving me excuses like:

Oh my evidence is with my grandfather — come and see him; Oh please trust me I am not lying; etc.

Well, your excuses are not acceptable here. You must always bring forward evidence, not excuses.

Do as I did, and submit your evidence. I didn’t tell you my evidence is in a certain village, too heavy to bring.

No! I came forward with something verifiable by all & sundry. Your evidence is your duty not mine. Bring it.

As such, sane people go with the dictionary of the Bini language which says:

The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popular usage context as follows.

(A) oghene Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene A piece from a five-piece kola.

Chop kiss kiss

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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by christistruth01: 6:57pm On Aug 31, 2021
TAO12:
Here we go again guys:

Haha! Nairalanders come and see something.

Samuk said I edited his comment in the attachment below.

Let me wake you up Samuk: It is impossible for me to edit your post when your post is shown to be coming directly under your name — rather than under mine.

Did I just have to explain that? LMAO!

Samuk, you are clinically deluded. Take this serious. My two cents.

nisai, gomojam, Christistruth00, Ofunwa111, rhektor, RedboneSmith

TAO12

But you know that the stuff he smokes is very Strong

What do you expect

Even when the Truth smacks them in the face their pride cannot accept it as Truth

They are allergic to Truth

They would rather disown their own Post which everyone has seen than admit the Truth

Admitting the Truth is like swallowing Hemlock to them

Have they not already disowned their own Great Benin Historian Jacob Egharevba for telling the Truth

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Re: The Power The Oba Of Benin Wield In The Past by KingOKON: 7:15pm On Aug 31, 2021
TAO11:
Is everything okay?

cheesy
.

Very very okay just want us to check some Spiritual interpretation, no logic or mathematics just spiritual

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