KingOKON:
Very very okay just want us to check some Spiritual interpretation, no logic or mathematics just spiritual

Okay? You sure?? Lmao.

For your spiritual consultations on your deep spiritual problems, contact the General Overseer of the HOLY AROUSAL spiritual center of Benin kingdom — that is, Omonoba Ewuare-2.

Peace!

christistruth01:
TAO12

But you know that the stuff he smokes is very Strong

What do you expect

Even when the Truth smacks them in the face their pride cannot accept it as Truth

They are allergic to Truth

They would rather disown their own Post which everyone has seen than admit the Truth

Admitting the Truth is like swallowing Hemlock to them

Have they not already disowned their own Great Benin Historian Jacob Egharevba for telling the Truth

Stop triggering your fellow humans.

TAO11:
UGBE, listen to me.

Whenever in the middle of a debate (especially on a faceless forum), you must bring your evidence.

You’ve been giving me excuses like:

Oh my evidence is with my grandfather — come and see him; Oh please trust me I am not lying; etc.

Well, your excuses are not acceptable here. You must always bring forward evidence, not excuses.

Do as I did, and submit your evidence. I didn’t tell you my evidence is in a certain village, too heavy to bring.

No! I came forward with something verifiable by all & sundry. Your evidence is your duty not mine. Bring it.

As such, sane people go with the dictionary of the Bini language which says:

The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popular usage context as follows.

(A) oghene → Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene → Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene → A piece from a five-piece kola.

Chop kiss

I have not said you should come and see my father, go to Benin or look for Binis around you if they come up with anything different then I am not Okaigun, Abi na paper your research end "you nor wan get heart attack ni" you dae fear to conduct Independent survey, Go to our Villages if you must Okaigun is not there, Abi you nor get transport, you dae sleep under bridge ni. Fair enough? You nor wan get heart attack make you see say wetin dem tell you different, start with those Binis around you, those are not Okaigun, those are not Ugbe. As a Bini man I have told you your source is faulty. I am giving you the Opinion of five million Binis against your trash dictionary

TAO11:

A long piece of crappy excuses.

If it was empty you won't quote it insecure fool

TAO11:

]Reference:[/b] Dictionary of Owo Language.

na so he be

OKAIGUN252:
[s]I have not said you should come and see my father, go to Benin or look for Binis around you if they come up with anything different then I am not Okaigun, Abi na paper your research end "you nor wan get heart attack ni" you dae fear to conduct Independent survey, Go to our Villages if you must Okaigun is not there, Abi you nor get transport, you dae sleep under bridge ni. Fair enough? You nor wan get heart attack make you see say wetin dem tell you different, start with those Binis around you, those are not Okaigun, those are not Ugbe. As a Bini man I have told you your source is faulty. I am giving you the Opinion of five million Binis against your trash dictionary
If it was empty you won't quote it insecure fool[/s]

Listen again blocked-head, UGBE:

IF you must come to the public to make a claim, then you must be smart enough to know you must come with your verifiable evidence.

Asking your co-debater to go and ask in Benin is the same as saying the answer is with your grandfather.

You have come to the public sphere, let your evidence also come to the public with you. Stop hiding your evidence in Benin.

Your evidence is your burden, not mine. So, bring it forward. Stop giving us excuses.

I came forward with my evidence and it is verifiable by all & sundry. Bring yours, no one must help you.

Sane mind people go with what the dictionary of the Bini language which says:

The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popular usage context as follows.

(A) oghene → Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene → Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene → A piece from a five-piece kola.

Chop kiss

TAO11:
Listen again blocked-head, UGBE:

IF you must come to the public to make a claim, then you must be smart enough to know you must come with your verifiable evidence.

Asking your co-debater to go and ask in Benin is the same as saying the answer is with your grandfather.

You have come to the public sphere, let your evidence also come to the public with you. Stop hiding your evidence in Benin.

Your evidence is your burden, not mine. So, bring it forward. Stop giving us excuses.

I came forward with my evidence and it is verifiable by all & sundry. Bring yours, no one must help you.

Sane people go with the dictionary of the Bini language which says:

The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popular usage context as follows.

(A) oghene → Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene → Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene → A piece from a five-piece kola.

Chop kiss

If your delusions give you peace who am I to Obstruct. By all means carry on

OKAIGUN252:
If your delusions give you peace who am I to Obstruct. By all means carry on

If you must come to the public to make a claim, then you should be smart to know you must come with your evidence.

You actually sound ret@rded at the very point you had noted that your your evidence is in Benin and your debater should go help you prove it.

No, you must bring your evidence. Help yourself. I am not helping you.

On the contrary, your hallucination was debunked by a verifiable evidence from linguistic authorities of the Bini language — Hans Melzian’s “A Concise Dictionary of the Bini Language of Southern Nigeria” which says:

(1) The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popular usage context as follows.

(A) oghene → Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene → Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene → A piece from a five-piece kola.

(2) The Bini word oghene (whatever meaning it has) originally comes the name Ooni.

“oghene … cf. Yor. Ooni.”
.
.
Sane people do not go with how many likes you give yourself with your secret accounts, viz. EDORODION, OLOKUN175, UGBE634, EKABA691, and OGUN622

Sane people go with the dictionary of the Bini language.

Chop kiss

TAO11:
If you must come to the public to make a claim, then you should be smart to know you must come with your evidence.

You actually sound ret@rded at the very point you had noted that your your evidence is in Benin and your debater should go help you prove it.

No, you must bring your evidence. Help yourself. I am not helping you.

On the contrary, your hallucination was debunked by a verifiable evidence from linguistic authorities of the Bini language — Hans Melzian’s “A Concise Dictionary of the Bini Language of Southern Nigeria” which says:

The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popular usage context as follows.

(A) oghene → Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene → Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene → A piece from a five-piece kola.

Sane people go with the dictionary of the Bini language which says:

Chop kiss

If you are sensible, this is language and not history, how can I have such evidence for a mistake I and several Binis just spotted on Nairaland. This is a tongue that is still alive, of which I am A proud speaker, the only way to Know common sense should tell you is to go to the field and see if the report tallies with what Okaigun has said. Fair enough? What are you afraid of? Or you rather stick to your delusions as truth? All of us can't be lying ba if we are then the dictionary was probably not written for us. This is not one of such argument that can be left for you, if I leave it for you it is because I am tired of your delusions not because I think you won because you can't win this, a tongue that has not died out and I am still a proud speaker haba!

OKAIGUN252:
[s]If you are sensible, this is language and not history, how can I have such evidence for a mistake I and several Binis just spotted on Nairaland. This is a tongue that is still alive, of which I am A proud speaker, the only way to Know common sense should tell you is to go to the field and see if the report tallies with what Okaigun has said. Fair enough? What are you afraid of? Or you rather stick to your delusions as truth? All of us can't be lying ba if we are then the dictionary was probably not written for us. This is not one of such argument that can be left for you, if I leave it for you it is because I am tired of your delusions not because I think you won because you can't win this, a tongue that has not died out and I am still a proud speaker haba![/s]

And who said this is history, dummy?

For history, bring historical evidence.

For language, being linguistic evidence.

You and your brother have been lying back and forth.

You can’t even agree with one another, yet you want to point to them as your evidence.

One said oghene does not refer to God, you agree it does. So, why point to disagreement as evidence.

In any case, your ignorant brothers are not evidence even if you all agree on what lie to tell — and you all don’t even agree, making matters worse.

Having said that, if you must come to public to make a claim, then you should be smart to know you must come with your evidence.

You actually sound ret@rded at the very point you had noted that your your evidence is in Benin & your debater should go help you out.

No, you must bring your evidence. Help yourself. I am not helping you.

On the contrary, your hallucination was debunked by a verifiable evidence from linguistic authorities of the Bini language — Hans Melzian’s “A Concise Dictionary of the Bini Language of Southern Nigeria” which says:

(1) The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popular usage context as follows.

(A) oghene → Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene → Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene → A piece from a five-piece kola.

(2) The Bini word oghene (whatever meaning it has) originally comes the name Ooni.

“oghene … cf. Yor. Ooni.”

Sane people do not go with how many likes you give yourself with your secret accounts, viz. EDORODION, OLOKUN175, UGBE634, EKABA691, and OGUN622

People with sanity go with the linguistic evidence, the dictionary of the Bini language. Sane people go where the evidence goes.

Chop kiss

TAO11:
And who said this is history, dummy?

For history, bring historical evidence.

For language, being linguistic evidence.

You and your brother have been lying back and forth.

You can’t even agree with one another, yet you want to point to them as your evidence.

One said oghene does not refer to God, you agree it does. So, why point to disagreement as evidence.

In any case, your ignorant brothers are not evidence even if you all agree on what lie to tell — and you all don’t even agree, making matters worse.

Having said that, if you must come to public to make a claim, then you should be smart to know you must come with your evidence.

You actually sound ret@rded at the very point you had noted that your your evidence is in Benin & your debater should go help you out.

No, you must bring your evidence. Help yourself. I am not helping you.

On the contrary, your hallucination was debunked by a verifiable evidence from linguistic authorities of the Bini language — Hans Melzian’s “A Concise Dictionary of the Bini Language of Southern Nigeria” which says:

(1) The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popular usage context as follows.

(A) oghene → Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene → Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene → A piece from a five-piece kola.

(2) The Bini word oghene (whatever meaning it has) originally comes the name Ooni.

“oghene … cf. Yor. Ooni.”

Sane people do not go with how many likes you give yourself with your secret accounts, viz. EDORODION, OLOKUN175, UGBE634, EKABA691, and OGUN622

People with sanity go with the linguistic evidence, the dictionary of the Bini language. Sane people go where the evidence goes.

Chop kiss

Sane people will go with The words of five million Binis who the dictionary was written for, There is no way I can bring evidence except I go to the field if it should come from my end you will probably feel it is was doctored, that is why I am giving you a wide array of options, go to Benin, go and treat your delusions and as well treat your esteem you will need it as you go forward in life. You will rather stay in Oshogbo because of one mistake that was made in the dictionary and delude yourself that your worthless king is called god in Benin than come and be rebuked to reality

I am not saying you should take my word for it you can verify this, I have given you an open option, when you ask thirty Binis, both friends and enemy, old and young, they can't relate with it what a sane person should deduce are two things

1. That was probably a mistake

2. The dictionary was probably not written for us

The yor Ooni have debunked before and I will debunk it here now

The term Oghene was certainly not borrowed because of two reasons
1. it is used by all Edoids groups i.e by Urhobo/Isoko, Bini, Esan, Etsako. The widespread use already destroyed the fact it was borrowed, the most important is that If it was borrowed Other Edo groups should also use it to refer to the Ooni of Ife since they migrated during the Ogisos reign and the present dynasty. What is shocking to note is that for about Five groups which used it to refer to God primarily Bini included, Only Bini use it in reference to Ife

What is even more shocking not only other Edo and Edoids groups do not use it to refer to Ife at all in their tongue, they also do not have it in their Orals that they have any dealings with Ife

The Jaw breaker here are the Esans who totally do not relate with the Bini/Ife tale which seem to be an Irony as most of their clans migrated during this present dynasty, (Ewuare and Esigie's reign) That will only tell one how recent the Benin alliance with Ife is

This point only goes to show that it was Bini's alliance with Ife that Introduced the term Oghene'n'uhe into her lexicon and not the other way round

OKAIGUN252:
[s]Sane people will go with The words of five million Binis who the dictionary was written for, There is no way I can bring evidence except I go to the field if it should come from my end you will probably feel it is was doctored, that is why I am giving you a wide array of options, go to Benin, go and treat your delusions and as well treat your esteem you will need it as you go forward in life. You will rather stay in Oshogbo because of one mistake that was made in the dictionary and delude yourself that your worthless king is called god in Benin than come and be rebuked to reality

I am not saying you should take my word for it you can verify this, I have given you an open option, when you ask thirty Binis, both friends and enemy, old and young, they can't relate with it what a sane person should deduce are two things

1. That was probably a mistake

2. The dictionary was probably not written for us

The yor Ooni have debunked before and I will debunk it here now

The term Oghene was certainly not borrowed because of two reasons
1. it is used by all Edoids groups i.e by Urhobo/Isoko, Bini, Esan, Etsako. The widespread use already destroyed the fact it was borrowed, the most important is that If it was borrowed Other Edo groups should also use it to refer to the Ooni of Ife since they migrated during the Ogisos reign and the present dynasty. What is shocking to note is that for about Five groups which used it to refer to God primarily Bini included, Only Bini use it in reference to Ife

What is even more shocking not only other Edo and Edoids groups do not use it to refer to Ife at all in their tongue, they also do not have it in their Orals that they have any dealings with Ife

The Jaw breaker here are the Esans who totally do not relate with the Bini/Ife tale which seem to be an Irony as most of their clans migrated during this present dynasty, (Ewuare and Esigie's reign) That will only tell one how recent the Benin alliance with Ife is

This point only goes to show that it was Bini's alliance with Ife that Introduced the term Oghene'n'uhe into her lexicon and not the other way round[/s]

Five million people?

Where do they say what you say? Bring your evidence. Stop saying it’s in Benin. Bring something verifiable right now. Help yourself.

Even Two (2) of you on Nairaland can’t even agree on the meaning of oghene, and you’re here talking of 5 million unverifiable ghosts.

Having said that, if you must come to public to make a claim, then you should be smart to know you must come with your evidence.

You actually sound ret@rded at the very point you had noted that your your evidence is in Benin & your debater should go help you out.

No, you must bring your evidence. Help yourself. I am not helping you. I refuse to help you.

On the contrary, your hallucination was debunked by a verifiable evidence from linguistic authorities of the Bini language — Hans Melzian’s “A Concise Dictionary of the Bini Language of Southern Nigeria” which says:

(1) The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popular usage context as follows.

(A) oghene → Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene → Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene → A piece from a five-piece kola.

(2) The Bini word oghene (whatever meaning it has) originally comes the name Ooni.

“oghene … cf. Yor. Ooni.”

Sane people do not go with how many likes you give yourself with your secret accounts, viz. EDORODION, OLOKUN175, UGBE634, EKABA691, and OGUN622

People with sanity go with the linguistic evidence, the dictionary of the Bini language. Sane people go where the evidence goes.

Chop kiss

TAO11:
Five million people?

Where do they say what you say? Bring your evidence. Stop saying it’s in Benin. Bring something verifiable right now. Help yourself.

Even Two (2) of you on Nairaland can’t even agree on the meaning of oghene, and you’re here talking of 5 million unverifiable ghosts.

Having said that, if you must come to public to make a claim, then you should be smart to know you must come with your evidence.

You actually sound ret@rded at the very point you had noted that your your evidence is in Benin & your debater should go help you out.

No, you must bring your evidence. Help yourself. I am not helping you. I refuse to help you.

On the contrary, your hallucination was debunked by a verifiable evidence from linguistic authorities of the Bini language — Hans Melzian’s “A Concise Dictionary of the Bini Language of Southern Nigeria” which says:

(1) The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popular usage context as follows.

(A) oghene → Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene → Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene → A piece from a five-piece kola.

(2) The Bini word oghene (whatever meaning it has) originally comes the name Ooni.

“oghene … cf. Yor. Ooni.”

Sane people do not go with how many likes you give yourself with your secret accounts, viz. EDORODION, OLOKUN175, UGBE634, EKABA691, and OGUN622

People with sanity go with the linguistic evidence, the dictionary of the Bini language. Sane people go where the evidence goes.

Chop kiss

Which two of us can't agree?, this is a tongue, we are not ghost, the bulk of Binis live in Bini. It is only logical you get it there stop playing to the gallery and stop Dodging logic. Low self esteem Ozuo whatever you think of me it has not deflated my point in anyway

OKAIGUN252:
[s]Which two of us can't agree?, this is a tongue, we are not ghost, the bulk of Binis live in Bini. It is only logical you get it there stop playing to the gallery and stop Dodging logic. Low self esteem Ozuo whatever you think of me it has not deflated my point in anyway[/s]

IF you must come to the public sphere to discuss, you must come forward with your evidence.

Show me your evidence. You’re saying it’s at home. Go and bring it na. What’s my own. Are you daft?

Of course it’s a tongue but you are yet to prove to me that the crap you’re typing is the linguistic reality.

Bring me linguistic evidence stop saying it’s at home with your people. Bring something verifiable. Help ya self.

Contrary to your delusions, the linguistic evidence has the following to say:

(1) The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popular usage context as follows.

(A) oghene → Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene → Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene → A piece from a five-piece kola.

(2) The Bini word oghene (whatever meaning it has) originally comes the name Ooni.

“oghene … cf. Yor. Ooni.”

H. Melzian, A Concise Dictionary of the Bini Language of Southern Nigeria.

Making a claim is one thing, providing evidence for it is another thing.

Help yourself with some evidence if you must come forward to make claims.

Peace! :

TAO11:

IF you must come to the public sphere to discuss, you must come forward with your evidence.

Show me your evidence. You’re saying it’s at home. Go and bring it na. What’s my own. Are you daft?

Of course it’s a tongue but you are yet to prove to me that the crap you’re typing is the linguistic reality.

Bring me linguistic evidence stop saying it’s at home with your people. Bring something verifiable. Help ya self.

Contrary to your delusions, the linguistic evidence has the following to say:

(1) The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popular usage context as follows.

(A) oghene → Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene → Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene → A piece from a five-piece kola.

(2) The Bini word oghene (whatever meaning it has) originally comes the name Ooni.

“oghene … cf. Yor. Ooni.”

H. Melzian, A Concise Dictionary of the Bini Language of Southern Nigeria.


Making a claim is one thing, providing evidence for it is another thing.

Help yourself with some evidence if you must come forward to make claims.

Peace! :

It is not a claim it is reality, it is not for them to believe that is the matter but if they believe,it will be seen as believing "deception" it will not be in tandem with reality. As a slowpoke Yoruba you will rather live in delusion than face reality. Yor. Ooni for anyone who cares to listen was Egharevba's input and nothing more, how can I come forward with an evidence for a mistake I spotted today, what is the evidence really ? The only Evidence here is for you to find out from other Binis Old and young, friends and enemy who Okaigun have not come in contact with Fair enough? This back and forth endless talk don tire me abi you nor get who you wan play with ni

OKAIGUN252:
[s]It is not a claim it is reality, it is not for them to believe that is the matter but if they believe,it will be seen as believing "deception" it will not be in tandem with reality. As a slowpoke Yoruba you will rather live in delusion than face reality. Yor. Ooni for anyone who cares to listen was Egharevba's input and nothing more, how can I come forward with an evidence for a mistake I spotted today, what is the evidence really The only Evidence here is for you to find out from other Binis Old and young, friends and enemy who Okaigun have not come in contact with Fair enough? This back and forth endless talk don tire me abi you nor get who you wan play with ni[/s]

Whatever you are saying is a claim. It doesn’t becomes reality until you would demonstrate it with objectively verifiable evidence. You can’t be so dumb not to know this. Or are you?

Therefore, bring forward the evidence which supports whatever crap you’ve been typing. Help yourself.


Contrary to your delusions, Bini language dictionary (a linguistic evidence on Bini words) has the following to say:

(1) The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popular usage context as follows.

(A) oghene → Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene → Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene → A piece from a five-piece kola.

(2) The Bini word oghene (whatever meaning it has) originally comes the name Ooni.

“oghene … cf. Yor. Ooni.”

Peace!

TAO11:
Whatever you are saying is a claim. It doesn’t becomes reality until you would demonstrate it with objectively verifiable evidence. You can’t be so dumb not to know this. Or are you?

Therefore, bring forward the evidence which supports whatever crap you’ve been typing. Help yourself.


Contrary to your delusions, Bini language dictionary (a linguistic evidence on Bini words) has the following to say:

(1) The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popular usage context as follows.

(A) oghene → Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene → Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene → A piece from a five-piece kola.

(2) The Bini word oghene (whatever meaning it has) originally comes the name Ooni.

“oghene … cf. Yor. Ooni.”

Peace!

Everything nor be paper e dae, Okaigun is just one person out of five million Binis. If I was insecure about this I wouldn't tell you to go to Bini and ask. If I quote Oba Eredieuwa you will want to relate it to the Bini/Ife tale . Sorry your tales of miletus and delusions cannolonger fly. Whatever you imply here now or make people to believe it won't change a thing and they would be shocked when they come to Benin because it is antithetical to truth and it is not in tandem with reality. I never see delusions like this before o I dae follow you drag my language ba wa o language wey you nor dae speak. Language wey na person like me give the woman info. How do you know a word is true in a tribe is general consensus. Egharevba can and is wrong, Even as Binis we have slightly different interpretations for words, what General consensus settles for is what is right. Egharevba's assertion of the Oghene as Yor. Ooni is not in tandem with the reality Even though in that dictionary. See point above for better understanding

OKAIGUN252:
[s]Everything nor be paper e dae, Okaigun is just one person out of five million Binis. If I was insecure about this I wouldn't tell you to go to Bini and ask. If I quote Oba Eredieuwa you will want to relate it to the Bini/Ife tale . Sorry your tales of miletus and delusions cannolonger fly. Whatever you imply here now or make people to believe it won't change a thing and they would be shocked when they come to Benin because it is antithetical to truth and it is not in tandem with reality. I never see delusions like this before o I dae follow you drag my language ba wa o language wey you nor dae speak. Language wey na person like me give the woman info. How do you know a word is true in a tribe is general consensus. Egharevba can and is wrong, Even as Binis we have slightly different interpretations for words, what General consensus settles for is what is right. Egharevba's assertion of the Oghene as Yor. Ooni is not in tandem with the reality Even though in that dictionary. See point above for better understanding[/s]

You can’t prove your claim because it is not on paper, but on air — so I am to blame for your failure to prove your claim. LMAO

Egharevba didn’t write the dictionary. Neither did he provide input for the section under discussion even though he is Oba Akenzua’s favorite historian.

Contrary to your delusions, Bini language dictionary (a linguistic evidence on Bini words) has the following to say:

(1) The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popular usage context as follows.

(A) oghene → Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene → Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene → A piece from a five-piece kola.

(2) The Bini word oghene (whatever meaning it has) originally comes the name Ooni.

“oghene … cf. Yor. Ooni.”

Peace!

TAO11:
You can’t prove your claim because it is not on paper, but on air — so I am to blame for your failure to prove your claim. LMAO

Egharevba didn’t write the dictionary. Neither did he provide input for the section under discussion even though he is Oba Akenzua’s favorite historian.

Contrary to your delusions, Bini language dictionary (a linguistic evidence on Bini words) has the following to say:

(1) The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popular usage context as follows.

(A) oghene → Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene → Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene → A piece from a five-piece kola.

(2) The Bini word oghene (whatever meaning it has) originally comes the name Ooni.

“oghene … cf. Yor. Ooni.”

It did not and cannot come from the Ooni This point has been debunked see point below

The term Oghene was certainly not borrowed because of two reasons
1. it is used by all Edoids groups i.e by Urhobo/Isoko, Bini, Esan, Etsako. The widespread use already destroyed the fact it was borrowed, the most important is that If it was borrowed Other Edo groups should also use it to refer to the Ooni of Ife since they migrated during the Ogisos reign and the present dynasty. What is shocking to note is that for about Five groups which used it to refer to God primarily Bini included, Only Bini use it in reference to Ife

What is even more shocking not only other Edo and Edoids groups do not use it to refer to Ife at all in their tongue, they also do not have it in their Orals that they have any dealings with Ife

The Jaw breaker here are the Esans who totally do not relate with the Bini/Ife tale which seem to be an Irony as most of their clans migrated during this present dynasty, (Ewuare and Esigie's reign) That will only tell one how recent the Benin alliance with Ife is

This point only goes to show that it was Bini's alliance with Ife that Introduced the term Oghene'n'uhe into her lexicon and not the other way round

OKAIGUN252:
[s]It did not and cannot come from the Ooni This point has been debunked see point below

The term Oghene was certainly not borrowed because of two reasons
1. it is used by all Edoids groups i.e by Urhobo/Isoko, Bini, Esan, Etsako. The widespread use already destroyed the fact it was borrowed, the most important is that If it was borrowed Other Edo groups should also use it to refer to the Ooni of Ife since they migrated during the Ogisos reign and the present dynasty. What is shocking to note is that for about Five groups which used it to refer to God primarily Bini included, Only Bini use it in reference to Ife

What is even more shocking not only other Edo and Edoids groups do not use it to refer to Ife at all in their tongue, they also do not have it in their Orals that they have any dealings with Ife

The Jaw breaker here are the Esans who totally do not relate with the Bini/Ife tale which seem to be an Irony as most of their clans migrated during this present dynasty, (Ewuare and Esigie's reign) That will only tell one how recent the Benin alliance with Ife is

This point only goes to show that it was Bini's alliance with Ife that Introduced the term Oghene'n'uhe into her lexicon and not the other way round[/s]

CRAP!

From your palace of Benin kingdom, a ‘bronze cast’ of the oghene (Ooni of Ife) was excavated.

Thermoluminescence science puts it date at 1420AD, i.e., A deep seated pre-1400 Daddy (Ife) & Son (Benin) connection.

Tell me which scientific dating you used to determine when Esan left Benin.

So we can compare the date. I am waiting.

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Contrary to your delusions, Bini language dictionary (a linguistic evidence on Bini words) has the following to say:

(1) The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popular usage context as follows.

(A) oghene → Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene → Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene → A piece from a five-piece kola.

(2) The Bini word oghene (whatever meaning it has) originally comes the name Ooni.

“oghene … cf. Yor. Ooni.”

Peace!

TAO11:
[b][/b]!

From your palace of Benin kingdom, a ‘bronze cast’ of the Oghene'n'uhe (Ooni of Ife) was excavated.

the mind will see what it wants to see, In that same nonsense excavated, If you wish to point out similarities between Benin and Nri from that Very bronze, you will find it.

TAO11:

Thermoluminescence science puts it date at 1420A— i.e., A deep seated pre-1400 Daddy (Ife) & Son (Benin) connection.

you said pre-1400, Many Urhobo clan migrated from Benin during the Ogisos reign and Also the striking similarities in dialects among Esans and Binis already put to rest that her history that she migrated during Ewuare's reign is in tandem with reality where they ran for safety because of his harsh laws, and that is how they got their name "Edo ni San fia" of the thirty five clans none can relate with it not even Igueben that is more like Benin in Language and culture. The thirty five clans can't be wrong for your excavation! They brought it from Ife, they did not excavate anything.

By asking me about the carbon dating of when Esans left that is you are implying they already left before the Benin Ife relationship If that is so, In essense you are Implying that all the other Edoids groups already left Benin before the Bini/Ife relationship

My questions for you are
1. If they already left Bini before the Bini/Ife relationship how did it enter their Lexicon and why is there so a widespread use of of the term Oghene among Edoids groups

Only what we can safely pull out from this is that if it was borrowed, it would have entered their Lexicon while they were in Bini for such a widespread use.

If so is the case why is Bini the Only group in the Edoids family that refer to her As such Oghene'n'uhe

I have scholarly evidence for my claim, bring yours. Be like me. Bring evidence.

OKAIGUN252:
[s]the mind will see what it wants to see, In that same nonsense excavated, If you wish to point out similarities between Benin and Nri from that Very bronze, you will find it.
you said pre-1400, Many Urhobo clan migrated from Benin during the Ogisos reign and Also the striking similarities in dialects among Esans and Binis already put to rest that her history that she migrated during Ewuare's reign is in tandem with reality where they ran for safety because of his harsh laws, and that is how they got their name "Edo ni San fia" of the thirty five clans none can relate with it not even Igueben that is more like Benin in Language and culture. The thirty five clans can't be wrong for your excavation! They brought it from Ife, they did not excavate anything.

By asking me about the carbon dating of when Esans left that is you are implying they already left before the Benin Ife relationship If that is so, In essense you are Implying that all the other Edoids groups already left Benin before the Bini/Ife relationship

My questions for you are
1. If they already left Bini before the Bini/Ife relationship how did it enter their Lexicon and why is there so a widespread use of of the term Oghene among Edoids groups

Only what we can safely pull out from this is that if it was borrowed, it would have entered their Lexicon while they were in Bini for such a widespread use.

If so is the case why is Bini the Only group in the Edoids family that refer to her As such Oghene'n'uhe[/s]

I didn’t point out similarities. The equivalence is just there. Every art historian knows.

Every human with a working brain knows — except Binis of course.

Show me where any Bini/Nri king in art work who has an Ife facial striation.

Show me where Bini/Nri king in artwork uses the Ife chest pair crest as part of his regalia.

And many more.

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From your palace of Benin kingdom, a ‘bronze cast’ of the oghene (Ooni of Ife) was excavated.

Thermoluminescence science puts it date at 1420AD, i.e., A deep seated pre-1400 Daddy (Ife) & Son (Benin) connection.

Tell me which scientific dating you used to determine when Esan left Benin.

So we can compare the date. I am waiting.

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Contrary to your delusions, Bini language dictionary (a linguistic evidence on Bini words) has the following to say:

(1) The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popular usage context as follows.

(A) oghene → Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene → Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene → A piece from a five-piece kola.

(2) The Bini word oghene (whatever meaning it has) originally comes the name Ooni.

“oghene … cf. Yor. Ooni.”

Peace!

TAO11:
I have scholarly evidence for my claim, bring yours. Be like me. Bring evidence.
I didn’t point out similarities. The equivalence is just there. Every art historian knows.

Every human with a working brain knows — except Binis of course.

Show me where any Bini/Nri king in art work who has an Ife facial striation.

Show me where Bini/Nri king in artwork uses the Ife chest pair crest as part of his regalia.

And many more.

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From your palace of Benin kingdom, a ‘bronze cast’ of the oghene (Ooni of Ife) was excavated.

Thermoluminescence science puts it date at 1420A— i.e., A deep seated pre-1400 Daddy (Ife) & Son (Benin) connection.

Tell me which scientific dating you used to determine when Esan left Benin.

So we can compare the date. I am waiting.

——————
Contrary to your delusions, Bini language dictionary (a linguistic evidence on Bini words) has the following to say:

(1) The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popular usage context as follows.

(A) oghene → Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene → Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene → A piece from a five-piece kola.

(2) The Bini word oghene (whatever meaning it has) originally comes the name Ooni.

“oghene … cf. Yor. Ooni.”

Peace!

They brought it from Ife, they did not excavate anything.

By asking me about the carbon dating of when Esans left that is you are implying they already left before the Benin Ife relationship If that is so, In essense you are Implying that all the other Edoids groups already left Benin before the Bini/Ife relationship because of the glaring similarity in dialects among Esan and Bini. Certainly she was the last to migrate

My questions for you are
1. If they already left Bini before the Bini/Ife relationship how did it enter their Lexicon and why is there so a widespread use of of the term Oghene among Edoids groups

Only what we can safely pull out from this is that if it was borrowed, it would have entered their Lexicon while they were in Bini for such a widespread use, why is it then that none can totally relate with the Bini/Ife tale

If so is the case why is Bini the Only group in the Edoids family that refer to her As such Oghene'n'uhe. There are many missing links in History we still don't know the why's and where

OKAIGUN252:
They brought it from Ife, they did not excavate anything.

(1) Who are the “they”? And what year did the “they” bring it? Bring your evidence? Please don’t point to grandpa this time around? LMAO!

Sorry lad, that bronze cast of the Ooni was excavated from the palace of Benin kingdom according to every single writing (on the earth’s surface) about it.

Except, of course, the report Nairaland comment of a certain OKAIGUN252, aka EDORODION, aka OLOKUN175, aka UGBE634, aka EKABA691, and aka OGUN622

Anyways sha, we are waiting for evidence.

[s]By asking me about the carbon dating of when Esans left that is you are implying they already left before the Benin Ife relationship If that is so, In essense you are Implying that all the other Edoids groups already left Benin before the Bini/Ife relationship because of the glaring similarity in dialects among Esan and Bini. Certainly she was the last to migrate

My questions for you are
1. If they already left Bini before the Bini/Ife relationship how did it enter their Lexicon and why is there so a widespread use of of the term Oghene among Edoids groups

Only what we can safely pull out from this is that if it was borrowed, it would have entered their Lexicon while they were in Bini for such a widespread use, why is it then that none can totally relate with the Bini/Ife tale

If so is the case why is Bini the Only group in the Edoids family that refer to her As such Oghene'n'uhe. [/s]

CRAP!

You sounded so sure of the timelines/date wHeN ThEy LeFt, hence the request that you provide dates based on scientific dating evidence.

In any case, Esans (/other Edoids) have some words in common with Binis for different reasons one of which (I am quite certain may appeal to you) is the fact that the Benin kingdom comprises of Benin city & surrounding Edoid communities — just as Benin have Yorùbá adapted words despite a wider geographical gap.

Your brain catch that?
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Contrary to your delusions, Bini language dictionary (a linguistic evidence on Bini words) has the following to say:

(1) The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popular usage context as follows.

(A) oghene → Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene → Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene → A piece from a five-piece kola.

(2) The Bini word oghene (regardless of context) originally comes the name Ooni.

“oghene … cf. Yor. Ooni.”

There are many missing links in History we still don't know the why's and where

I’m sure there are many missing links in your brain for typing the above crap. Buhaha.

Peace!

TAO11:






In any case, Esans (/other Edoids) have some words in common with Binis for different reasons one of which (I am quite certain may appeal to you) is the fact that the Benin kingdom comprises of Benin city & surrounding Edoid communities — just as Benin have Yorùbá adapted words despite a wider geographical gap.

One can draw two things from your comment here

1. Because of shared proximity

2. Because she was under Ife (as you have consistently want to make us believe)

Now my question is



Igbanke is an Igboid group in Edo state close to Benin but she did not capture the term "Oghene" neither by Proximity or by been under her precolonially(she is closer to Benin than Esan, Urhobo, is to her so the issue of proximity is out of it,
she was also under Benin precolonially so that also cancel being under her as a factor)

Why is it that it was only groups that were classified as Edoids that use such term

According to her Sobo (Urhobo/Isoko) and Isa which is Esan are dialects of Bini, I did not say it

And also Etsako do not border Bini directly. It certainly have more to do with being Edoid than anything else

This only goes to show it is cognate, it is their common heritage, Etsako have a slightly different version "Oghena" It only shows that they got it as a group from their Proto-Edoid ancestor

This only goes to show that it was borrowed and would have been given to them by shared proximity is false( as Isoko and Etsako do not directly Border Benin) and as we have seen above Etsako have a slightly different version "Oghena"

Why are you refusing to “Quote” my comments in full?

Is there anything in my comment that makes you piss your pants.

OKAIGUN252:
[s]One can draw two things from your comment here
1. Because of shared proximity

2. Because she was under Ife (as you have consistently want to make us believe)

Now my question is

Igbanke is an Igboid group in Edo state close to Benin but she did not capture the term "Oghene" neither by Proximity or by been under her precolonially(she is closer to Benin than Esan, Urhobo, is to her so the issue of proximity is out of it,
she was also under Benin precolonially so that also cancel being under her as a factor)

Why is it that it was only groups that were classified as Edoids that use such term

According to her Sobo (Urhobo/Isoko) and Isa which is Esan are dialects of Bini, I did not say it

And also Etsako do not border Bini directly. It certainly have more to do with being Edoid than anything else

This only goes to show it is cognate, it is their common heritage, Etsako have a slightly different version "Oghena" It only shows that they got it as a group from their Proto-Edoid ancestor

This only goes to show that it was borrowed and would have been given to them by shared proximity is false( as Isoko and Etsako do not directly Border Benin) and as we have seen above Etsako have a slightly different version "Oghena"[/s]

LIAR!

First of all, your screenshot does not exist anywhere in Hanz Melzian’s dictionary. Nowhere. Mention the page number of your attachment, I dare you. Liar. But that’s actually by the way. I simply wanted to point that out.


Secondly, Igbanke is not entirely linguistically Igboid, liar. There is some element of Bilingualism (Bini + Ika languages) in the culture. Hence my submission on linguistic adaptions based off of being part of the kingdom (or mere proximity).

Thirdly, in the light of this; now provide basis for your fraudulent remark that ONLY edoid groups uses such term. Don’t tell me your evidence is with grandpa.
Cc: Abohboy
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Contrary to your delusions, Bini language dictionary (a linguistic evidence on Bini words) has the following to say:

(1)The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popular usage context as follows.

(A) oghene → Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene → Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene → A piece from a five-piece kola.

(2)The Bini word oghene (regardless of context) comes originally from the name, Ooni.

“oghene … cf. Yor. Ooni.”
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By the way, have you connected the missing links in your brain? Buhaha

KingOKON:
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Who are you? I bet must be from Ogbomosho or Tinubus paternal village

Ekpa like you

From your mosquitoes ridden room you're replying with your opera mini megabytes

Why do you keep bringing this trash to nairaland with hope that it will not be trashed again?

rhektor:


Ekpa like you

From your mosquitoes ridden room you're replying with your opera mini megabytes

Why do you keep bringing this trash to nairaland with hope that it will not be trashed again?

Is that the reason you lots from scattered bushes in the southwest dare open you weed smoking mouths to a true son of the soil of EKO
Trash what? Best you shout that Oshogbo mouth of your

TAO11:
Why are you refusing to “Quote” my comments in full?

Is there anything in my comment that makes you piss your pants.

LIAR!

First of all, your screenshot does not exist anywhere in Hanz Melzian’s dictionary. Nowhere. Mention the page number of your attachment, I dare you. Liar. But that’s actually by the way. I simply wanted to point that out.


Secondly, Igbanke is not entirely linguistically Igboid, liar. There is some element of Bilingualism (Bini + Ika languages) in the culture. Hence my submission on linguistic adaptions based off of being part of the kingdom (or mere proximity).

Thirdly, in the light of this; now provide basis for your fraudulent remark that ONLY edoid groups uses such term. Don’t tell me your evidence is with grandpa.
Cc: Abohboy
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Contrary to your delusions, Bini language dictionary (a linguistic evidence on Bini words) has the following to say:

(1)The Bini word oghene has three distinct meanings in order of their popular usage context as follows.

(A) oghene → Osa [i.e. God].

(B) oghene → Ooni of Ife.

(C) oghene → A piece from a five-piece kola.

(2)The Bini word oghene (regardless of context) comes originally from the name, Ooni.

“oghene … cf. Yor. Ooni.”
———————
By the way, have you connected the missing links in your brain? Buhaha

STFU taoliar11, taotransgender12

Think4Myself:
STFU taoliar11, taotransgender12

You also wish you’re intelligent, but unfortunately you can’t do much. So, I get your frustration.

TAO11:
You also wish you’re intelligent, but unfortunately you can’t do much. So, I get your frustration.

Most of them couldn't believe a female can whip them so hard hence the 'transgender' groaning whenever KOBOKO lashes swell the perpendicular to brain veins upon their heads.

It's not easy to be dull in your class ma. If I were one of those dullardinos, I go don japa.

I understand that they want to japa too but your baits are just too attractive to ignore.

In their mind they have just a single prayer request: that you will bid farewell to Nairaland never to return. I remember you use that to lure out the remaining garbages and stupidity from boda GreGre sometime ago. He didn't know you were still lurking, and tried to practise craziness without its reward. He became very surprised when you showed up with enough reward for craziness--- egba l'onje were.

nisai:
Most of them couldn't believe a female can whip them so hard hence the 'transgender' groaning whenever KOBOKO lashes swells the perpendicular to brain veins upon their heads.

It's not easy to be dull in your class ma. If I were one of those dullardinos, I go don japa.

I understand that they want to japa too but your baits are just too attractive to ignore.

In their mind they have just a single prayer request: that you will bid farewell to Nairaland never to return. I remember you use that to lure out the remaining garbages and stupidity from boda GreGre sometime ago. He didn't know you were still lurking, and tried to practise craziness without its reward. He became very surprised when you showed up with enough reward for craziness--- egba l'onje were.

@nisa: no kill me. Lol.

I swear, I screamed out loud at the bolded.

Cc: nisai

TAO11:
@nisa: no kill me. Lol.

I swear, I screamed out loud at the bolded.

Cc: nisai

Lol. Na true na.

nisai:
Lol. Na true na.

I should be asking if you got some directly relationship with Ibadan.