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This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by innotutorial(m): 6:08pm On Sep 03, 2021 |
We are now going to discuss the History of the Quran, how the Quran was compiled. Since Muslims claim that the Quran is eternal, well preserved and has never been changed like if you read Surah 15:9 We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption). So, we are now going to test the Quran divine origin, based on whether the promise of Allah’s in Surah 15:9 was fulfilled. We will review the history of the Qur’an according to Muslim sources, allowing us to see if this book was really from God or Allah like they say. I urge you all to watch and listen with an open mind before you criticize. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMYsKxgPCvk 1 Share
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Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by Tomahawk99(m): 6:15pm On Sep 03, 2021 |
The Quran and The Bible are the most read fiction books in the world. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by innotutorial(m): 6:41pm On Sep 03, 2021 |
In the Quran you are right, but in the Bible you know what you talking about. I doubt you have ever read the Bible. The bible was written by men which was inspired by God. Do you know the Manuscript evidence of the bible will have today? The Latin Vulgate Manuscripts and other Manuscripts in the 2nd century. Have you seen the quotes from the early church fathers? More than 20,000 quotes form the new testaments and this was in the first century. So don't say what you don't know. The Quran is a book written by Muhammad not God. The Quran is just mainly a fairy tale book which got most of its stories from Gnostic and Ribenic writings. I will make more videos to expose and discuss this. Do not be deceived brother/sister, the Bible is the word of God. The Quran is a counterfeit and the word of Satan. Tomahawk99: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by Bishopkingsley(m): 6:52pm On Sep 03, 2021 |
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Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by Tomahawk99(m): 7:14pm On Sep 03, 2021 |
innotutorial:Haha! Clown, few people in Europe sat a decided which book is which, followers like you were never consulted. Give me one proof the bible is the word of God. You religious zombies are dumb. 4 Likes |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by innotutorial(m): 8:50pm On Sep 03, 2021 |
Even if I decide to prove this to you, because you are so carnal minded you will not listen, believe or even think it make sense. It will be off no point. May God save your soul from damnation. Tomahawk99: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by obonujoker(m): 8:55pm On Sep 03, 2021 |
Quran was dictated to St Mohammed by Angel Gabriel in a cave 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by Tomahawk99(m): 9:07pm On Sep 03, 2021 |
innotutorial:You're the one who needs saving, you're damned. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by Aboks(m): 9:38pm On Sep 03, 2021 |
The book of the religion of pizza 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by innotutorial(m): 11:43pm On Sep 03, 2021 |
That is what you think. That Angel was devil himself who transformed himself into an angel of light. No wonder Muhammad tried to kill himself by Jumping down on mountain. It was Waraq bin nafal who told him it was Angel Gabriel when Muhammad himself said he think he was demon possessed. Do not be deceived, no angel gave Muhammad any Quran. It was Satan. obonujoker: |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by innotutorial(m): 11:44pm On Sep 03, 2021 |
There is a way that seem right unto a man, but the end thereof is destruction. Tomahawk99: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by haekymbahd(m): 5:30am On Sep 04, 2021 |
innotutorial:what about the demon that transformed himself to Jesus to meet Apostle paul that was blinded for 3 days that even the Jewish christians whom he was persecuting rejected his doctrine because they knew he taught what Jesus didn't teach a demonic doctrine hence there are hardly christians in isreal today and your G.O saw demonic Jesus drink tea with him... He (Paul) ran to Antioch to convert gullible gentiles who did not even know about Jesus to convert them and named the religion Christianity and even changed his name from Yeshua Lamashciack to Jesus Christ incredible.. Jesus had completed his mission I don't understand the demonic Jesus showing himself to you all as Almighty God adding to the Gospel of Yeshua who had gone to the Father... John 17 3 And this is eternal life: [it means] to know (to perceive, recognize, become acquainted with, and understand) You, the only true and real God, and [likewise] to know Him, Jesus [as the] Christ (the Anointed One, the Messiah), Whom You have sent. 4 I have glorified You down here on the earth by completing the work that You gave Me to do. Who is your God? mention his name. Make sense enter your head. Explain why the RSV bible is condemning the KJV version which is the widely used bible answer because it was corrupted? Also bring me 2 different Quran that is widely accepted and tell us the difference. Also if two person are to recite the Quran through out the world they woul still say the same thing. There is only one Quran, but the way we recite it might be different due to different accents and location. When a Yorba man an hausa man recite the Quran there is bound to be difference due to their accents. If people from different location write Quran in their own language and dialect/accent it doesn't change the fact that there is still only one Quran widely accepted they are regarded as translations of Quran.. coupled with the fact that the Quran had been memorized right from the time of the prophet till date how do one change the Quran without people even noticing Allah SWT said: "And We have certainly made the Qur'an easy for remembrance, so is there any who will remember?" "We will make you recite, [O Muhammad], and you will not forget," (QS. Al-A'laa 87: Verse 6) * Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com (QS. Al-Qamar 54: Verse 17) * Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com E.g in English for example we have British English. ... American English. ... Australian English. ... Canadian English. ... Indian English. ... Philippine English. ... Ugandan English. Pidgin English e.t.c It doesn't change the fact that the British English is originator through which others were derived... Infact all this Arabic Qurans you posted if you are even to cross check there meanings with the original Quran they would still make or have the same meaning. Compare it to RSV and KJV version e.t.c of your Bible and still compare both to the Greek version and still compare all to the early manuscript? Couple with the fact that no disciples of Jesus wrote the gospel that author's claim it was from eye witnesses which they didn't mention any nor documents they copied from and we still have cannonical and non cannonical Gospel also the Catholic bible is even still more than the protestants, also the earliest cannonical which is gospel of Mark has been discovered to be fabricated in the early manuscript it stopped at Chapter 16 verse 8 and it not it up to verse 20 how did that happen only God knows. Even Jesus was not even alive when the cannonical were written to verify it and endorse it, the earliest cannonical was written 70+ A D, and we still don't know the full names of the authors of both cannonical and cannonical Gospels or who they are is this not amazing Example[b][/b] Word “Begotten” is a corruption [an addition] (RSV 32 Christians Scholars) & Word “Son” is Corruption [fabricated from Choose] (NIV Christian Scholars) and Trinity 1 John 5:6-7 is a Corruption (RSV 32 Christians Scholars) Lets see John 3:16 Begotten Son in King James Version is a Corruption and Word begotten has been removed by revised standards versions 32 Christians scholars backed uo by 50 Christians denominations of highest imminent This confirms the corruption into bible because here is a link to read RSV Bible Preface Yourself and have a look what your own scholars says about King James Version: http://www.bible-researcher.com/rsvpreface.html If you do not have time to visit above link then here is a brief sample of RSV scholars: they Say........... Yet the King James Version has grave defects. By the middle of the nineteenth century, the development of Biblical studies and the discovery of many manuscripts more ancient than those upon which the King James Version was based, made it manifest that these defects are so many and so serious as to call for revision........ John 3:16 the word "begotton" jesus was a "begotton son" of God has been removed by Christians themselves from the bible in RSV bible. According to 32 Christians scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 different Christian co-operating denominations said this begotten word in john 3:16 (dictionary mean-act of low level of animal sex) is fabrication, human made addition, misinterpretation, and it is wrong and by those Christian they removed this word begotten from revised standard version of bible (RSV). Trinity has been thrown out of bible too The verse of the Bible, 1st Epistle of John, Chapter 5, Verse No. 7, is the closest resemblance to ‘trinity’ in the full Bible. But if you read the ‘Revised Standard Version’, which has been revised by 32 Christians scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 different Christian co-operating denominations – they have removed this verse from the Bible as an interpolation, as a concoction, as a fabrication. It was not removed by Muslims or non-Christian scholars – but it was removed by 32 Christian scholars of the highest eminence backed by 50 different co-operative denominations as an interpolation, as a concoction, as a fabrication, because it was not there in original manuscripts. Allah SWT said: "O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, Three; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs." (QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 171) * Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com Can you or any of your father in the Lord ever read the Bible offhead from Genesis to revelation even Mathew to revelation self you dey whine me ni? 1 Like |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by AntiChristian: 9:04am On Sep 04, 2021 |
innotutorial: We Muslims can equally say you are deluded to say this on Islam. Why do you guys brand people names to explain your Book? Some are carnal minded and hence can't understand your Book? Well, no be your fault! When he (Jesus) was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. He told them, "The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables so that," 'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!' Mark 4:10-12 "Though I have been speaking figuratively (paroimia), a time is coming when I will no longer use this kind of language but will tell you plainly about my Father. John 16:25 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by sagenaija: 11:30am On Sep 04, 2021 |
The truth about the Koran: 1. The Koran was originally verbal recitation. 2. These recitations were then written down by different people in various materials as much as they could recall from memory. 3. Decades after the death of Mohamed, Zaid ibn Thabith was saddled with the task of collecting and confirming which writings were genuine and then binding them into a single volume to become one book. There was also Uthman's version after which he destroyed every other copy of the Koran. 4. Even after this compilation some devotees of Mohamed remembered some areas that were part of the recitals but the Islamic leaders did not want to add anything else so as to project the “sacredness” of the book. 5. Mohamed therefore did not directly write anything. No historical record shows him as penning down the Koran. Moslems generally agree that Mohamed was not learned; a questionable issue though. So can we be sure that those who wrote from memory wrote the right things? Did they write down exactly what they heard? Were they inspired by Allah? The last question is especially relevant because since other persons apart from Mohamed wrote down the Koran the issue of the infallibility of the book is questionable without the writers being inspired. And that is an issue Islam is not ready to face. Antichristian knows that. haekymbahd knows too. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by innotutorial(m): 12:11pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
Wonderful how you just copy nonsense from a website. It was clearly started that Jesus appeared to Paul. In the Quran there is no where Muhammad said it was Angel Gabriel who visited him. It was his uncle Waraq bin hafal who said it was Angel Gabriel. Which he knows nothing about. So don't come up with all these nonsense from a website. haekymbahd: 2 Likes |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by innotutorial(m): 12:12pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
You got no point at all. Just answer my questions. AntiChristian: |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by innotutorial(m): 12:14pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
Watch the video you will get all these answers. Muslims are not ready to answer these questions. sagenaija: |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by AntiChristian: 12:25pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
innotutorial: Which point? I don't have time to watch your video. You can state your points make we counter am! This is not the first time Sagenaija is bringing this on Nairaland. He would keep failing! Which questions? |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by innotutorial(m): 12:52pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
Was the Quran Preserved? Is the Quran we have now the same as the Quran compiled by Uthman? If yes proof it to me. I am waiting... AntiChristian: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by Lostchild(m): 2:52pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
innotutorial Ocultic men can use the Quran to voke demon. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by hupernikao: 2:53pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
Tomahawk99: innotutorial pointed you to a fact but you are only presenting argument that has no base. He pointed you to history of 2nd century writers, quoting the Bible. These are verifiable facts that exist. But your defence is poor. Give data and facts about your argument. Don't act like somehow they whisper a false information to who then run to market with a loud speaker claiming knowledge. The focus of his facts is: Was there quote and evidence of the same from the Bible in 2nd century, he told you over 20000 quotes exist. What are your own facts about the origin of the Bible? Is the gist of "few people in Europe sit" intelligent enough for such claims? Is that a scholarly argument, using beer parlor gist. Bro, you can do better. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by Tomahawk99(m): 4:04pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
hupernikao:Verified facts...verified by who? You're dumb to think a historical event that affects the composition is a beer palour gist, you're very dumb. Did the event i mentioned take place or not? Did the council of nicaea take place or not? Where other christians banished from christianity by the council or not? Go educate yourself...and am not your bro. |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by innotutorial(m): 4:20pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
Thank you my brother/ Sister hupernikao: |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by hupernikao: 8:12pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
Tomahawk99: Why are you this agitated. You don't even know how to engage in arguments. You are just zigzagging. Firstly 1. He pointed you to the very first early Christians called church fathers - 2nd Century Christians (I expect you to go and read about them first). That's how to have intelligent discussion. They existed, their writings too not denied, their writings are in the open space. Even the confused don't behave as you did, they don't deny the facts that those people lived and wrote and quoted the scriptures. Don't be lazy go and read. Secondly 2. Notice, his argument pointed to 2nd century. Your argument is on Constantine (3rd century) . Read an excerpt below about it. The First Council of Nicaea was a council of Christian bishops convened in the Bithynian city of Nicaea by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in AD 325 AD 325, 3rd century. Hope you see clearly. So does Constantine gathering precedes the writings of Christians in 1st and 2nd century? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea Observe few of Christians and writers before the council. - The first epistle of Clement of Rome was in c96 - Ignatius of Antioch (also known as Theophorus) (c. 35 – c. 110) was the third bishop of Antioch and a likely student of the Apostle John. So, how does a council of 325 negate writings of 1st and 2nd century. I will advise you to go and read and stop acting like someone under pressure to exert his non existing grievance. Don't be lazy and start giving out false information. Those info are in public space but because you only learn in a line, you can't see the indices that negates all your false claim. Go and learn Bro and not embarrass yourself in the public. |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by haekymbahd(m): 11:18pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
sagenaija:Allah SWT said: "And We have certainly made the Qur'an easy for remembrance, so is there any who will remember?" (QS. Al-Qamar 54: Verse 17) "We will make you recite, [O Muhammad], and you will not forget," (QS. Al-A'laa 87: Verse 6) * Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com The Quran had been memorized and written down on different materials even when prophet Muhammad was alive. Apart from cross checking what they have momorized writing materials were also considered when writing the Quran. So not only memory verses were even considered when writing down the Quran.. |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by haekymbahd(m): 11:24pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
innotutorial:Allah SWT said: "[That] indeed, the Qur'an is a word [conveyed by] a noble messenger" (QS. At-Takwir 81: Verse 19) "And he has already seen Gabriel in the clear horizon." (QS. At-Takwir 81: Verse 23) "And Muhammad is not a withholder of [knowledge of] the unseen." (QS. At-Takwir 81: Verse 24) "And the Qur'an is not the word of a devil, expelled [from the heavens]." (QS. At-Takwir 81: Verse 25) * Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com Hope you saw were Angel Gabriel visited Muhammad in the Quran Show me the nonsense I copied from the website because I can't see any nonsense. Where is it stated that he (Paul) saw Jesus he saw a bright light that blinded him and he thought it was Jesus whereas it was a demon Jesus had completed the assignment given to him by the Almighty God. Hence the Jewish christians he was persecuting didn't beleive him either because the knew he taught demonic doctrine.. Even if Paul saw him did he meet him while he was alive how does he know what he looks like is he Black or white or did he see the actor with blue eyes also.. John 17 3 And this is eternal life: [it means] to know (to perceive, recognize, become acquainted with, and understand) You, the only true and real God, and [likewise] to know Him, Jesus [as the] Christ (the Anointed One, the Messiah), Whom You have sent. 4 I have glorified You down here on the earth by completing the work that You gave Me to do. Allah SWT said: "Never would the Messiah disdain to be a servant of Allah, nor would the angels near [to Him]. And whoever disdains His worship and is arrogant - He will gather them to Himself all together." (QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 172) * Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by haekymbahd(m): 3:37am On Sep 05, 2021 |
Lostchild:someone said the book of psalm and the seven book of Moses can be used to invoke demons how true is that? Be deceiving your self.. Arabic is a language to gullible ones once you see anyone reciting in Arabic then he is reading the Quran. I guess to you if I say anything in English I am reciting a bible verse.. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by haekymbahd(m): 3:48am On Sep 05, 2021 |
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Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by sagenaija: 4:47pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
haekymbahd: The question was simple: Given the fact that Mohamed did not personally write down the Koran, were those who wrote the Koran inspired by Allah? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: This Is The Real History Of How The Quran Was Compiled - Must See! by haekymbahd(m): 6:28pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
sagenaija:who made the Hafiz of the Quran able to memorized and completely remember the Quran if not Allah. What inspiration is Greater than that, moreover the Hafiz of the Quran had recited it during the time of the prophet while he was alive so why are you asking if prophet did not write it down, who taught and explain to the memorized how to read the Quran if not the prophet.. Quran is a dictated word of Allah, so far it is written and compiled by the Hafiz and also written materials can you tell me what other inspiration is needed to write it down what greater inspiration is Greater than this tell me Allah SWT said: " "And We have certainly made the Qur'an easy for remembrance, so is there any who will remember?" (QS. Al-Qamar 54: Verse 17) We will have you recite, the Qur’ān, so that you will not forget, what you recite," (QS. Al-A'laa 87: Verse 6) * Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com |
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