slim75d:


now i see how retarde+d you and ur generation have been. Stop making noise on nairaland come to opobo wit ur ipob morons, we are about to celebrate our fishing festival u guys'll be good for sacrifice as usual it been long the water bodies taste d an ibo blood

Shut your imposter mouth, your f0olery is breaking world records on this thread. Empty noise maker.

Malawian:

Bafagry is still controlled by Fon. I have been there and I have seen the people predominantly there, they do not seem like Yoruba people to me, although there are Yoruba look6people there as well.

Fons are the majority in badagry, but there are also Yorubas there.

HornyTave:
same way yorubas are claiming Itshekiri because of oil.

all of una are the same,

Yorubas are not claiming Isekiris, please get your fact right.

BiafraAburi:

Our fathers that used your so-called diplomacy, where did it get them?

Honestly, they were better off than the present generation.

FakeUnity:



Shut your imposter mouth, your f0olery is breaking world records on this thread. Empty noise maker.

Ask him for the date, so you go fit attend the ceremony

slim75d:


jaja threw every ibo heritage he had the day his greedy parents/ tribe sold him out for slavery, he never saw himself as an iboman, if he had he wouldn't have called himself amayanabo instead of igwe and named the new kingdom opubo which an ijaw word and other ijaw tradition

This is very similar to a Nigerian travelling to the US and becoming a n American citizen.

Ekealterego:

You have to understand that people like Eastlink, Abagworo, Odenigbo and all these older people on this forum, though good but were also for the most irresponsible disgraceful episode of disunity and washing of dirty lies on this forum about Igbos.
They opened thread upon thread destroying our images but attacking every corner of Igbo city.
People like Bigfrancis1 can be said to be more neutral and matured and probably contributed more (maybe because he was an admin).

These first group ended up causing so much harm and scar on our image for that period that almost all the information you could use against Igbos was picked up from their threads.
Many of them have joined one political party or the other. Take Abagworo for example.

How old do you think I am? First you said in one of your post that I was among the older generation that whipped division among Igbo state? You don't know me and you whip up such daft accusation. I'm not even from the SE for starters. So you just ascribe age to someone you don't know. A person who joined nairaland in 2015 should have told you how old he should be. And you are using me to compare Idenna aka Odenigbo Aroli and Abagworo two dudes old enough to be my uncles.

I began following Nairaland and other forums even as a Jambite so my understanding of those fora was intrigued from the culture and travel section. I'm a student of history and I always try to read widely to understand the world view. I'm not like you guys who listen to radio owned, run and managed by Nnamdi Kanu and believe his sentimental perpective. I scrutinize people, I find facts and don't swallow a propaganda hook, line and sinker. If you check my profile you'll see me comment in federal job groups like the Navy and ICPC. I'm not even up to 29 yet. You might be surprised, but I'm way smarter than my age.

Please quit that IPOB attitude. So anyone who does not agrees with you suddenly becomes an
enemy. If that is not daftness I don't know what else to call it. Use your head for once and stop castigating anyone who criticizes your leader and movement. I don't buy your pattern. I see it as a one man show. Your movement does not elevate us politically, socially or economically. Unlike the Ijaw INC or Arewa Youths, IPOB cannot point one influential impact it has bequeated on Ndigbo. Since IPOB came from the dark name one growth Igbos have seen. I saw holes in Kanu right from 2014 and knew his motive was political and not sincere. If I never bought the ideals of MASSOB is it Kanu I'll listen to. I might be young but I'm not easily cajoled to follow someone sheepishly. IPOB as far as I'm concerned has nothing to offer Ndigbo but disaster and stupidity. The earlier Ndigbo throw them and their one-sided views into the dustbin the better for us.

Malawian:

Bafagry is still controlled by Fon. I have been there and I have seen the people predominantly there, they do not seem like Yoruba people to me, although there are Yoruba look6people there as well.

The correct name for the ethnic group of Badagry is OGU (EGUN).


However OGU (EGUN) = Fon +Yoruba.

Arda1000:
ignorant is a very bad disease but if u will only mellow down I will care it from u.
Am Igbo from Ebonyi state,I understand Agbor than even Abakaliki who I share the same state with,now to break it down in a layman understanding,Igbo is an ethnic Nation( with different tribes and dialects which is mutually intelligible to us,anyone born and brought up Igbo can understand Agbor to some level of degree depending on the individual ability to listen and understand,stop asking useless,I understand Kwale,my uncle best friend Chukwuma is from there.

that's what you guys always say,

' I understand This and that more than my mothers tongue '

lol...

even Agbor and Kwale has differences, many...

the Anioma and Ika language has a mixture of Bini and Igbo and native language,

Native language - 60%
Ibo - 30%
Bini - 10%.

Lol... people wen never travel wan follow me argue.

DubaiLandLord:
Yorubas are not claiming Isekiris, please get your fact right.

This one no deh nairaland

I'll take Tao11 Tao12 serious when he tries to claim Okpameri

Ekealterego:

You have to understand that people like Eastlink, Abagworo, Odenigbo and all these older people on this forum, though good but were also for the most irresponsible disgraceful episode of disunity and washing of dirty lies on this forum about Igbos.
They opened thread upon thread destroying our images but attacking every corner of Igbo city.
People like Bigfrancis1 can be said to be more neutral and matured and probably contributed more (maybe because he was an admin).

These first group ended up causing so much harm and scar on our image for that period that almost all the information you could use against Igbos was picked up from their threads.
Many of them have joined one political party or the other. Take Abagworo for example.

You have a strong point especially that of Abagworo. Odenigbo Aroli is another one of them.

HornyTave:


that's what you guys always say,

' I understand This and that more than my mothers tongue '

lol...

even Agbor and Kwale has differences, many...

the Anioma and Ika language has a mixture of Bini and Igbo and native language,

Native language - 60%
Ibo - 30%
Bini - 10%.

Lol... people wen never travel wan follow me argue.

Oga why would i lie about anything, besides I don’t have anything to prove to u, thanks to the nature of my former work, I get to travel around Nigeria,and my stay normally last from 2weeks to 3 months depending on how big the contract is, I remember clearly in Umunede how one of my college called a meat seller,while he was asking of the price with pidgin,I told him in Igbo that he should know the kind of meat he is buying(me am skeptic when it comes to meat) before I go even finish the sentence the girl, “said owu anu mgbada”, that antelope she mentioned opened my curiosity,I began asking her questions even where she was(awum onye Agbor) her accent has been installed in my subconscious mind,they way Agbor people speak is identical to Abriba way that is their accent,and I hear Abriba too,Am also getting used to Kwale,mr. Chukwuma is always coming to our place, he even named our dog some months ago.
In conclusion I don’t claim all these, it’s my own personal experience that am relating,Igbo language is very deep and all the Igbo I have ever come across the one that made me scratch my head is [b]Egbema[/b]and I only had an encounter with one egbema man from Rivers,am also curious to know more about their dialect and also know if it’s the same dialect the ones in Imo speak too or if it’s different .
Lastly I don’t force anyone to be Igbo, anyone can be what they like(I don’t take Agbor,Ikwerre as Igbo, but mind what u say about Anioma depending on how u group them,an average man will skin u alive if u tell him his not Igbo

Walkee:
rubbish. You don't even know what you're trying to say. Is it everything you people want to claim?
When did Ogbemudia become an Igbo name?

What of Chiedu?

Arda1000:

Oga why would i lie about anything, besides I don’t have anything to prove to u, thanks to the nature of my former work, I get to travel around Nigeria,and my stay normally last from 2weeks to 3 months depending on how big the contract is, I remember clearly in Umunede how one of my college called a meat seller,while he was asking of the price with pidgin,I told him in Igbo that he should know the kind of meat he is buying(me am skeptic when it comes to meat) before I go even finish the sentence the girl, “said owu anu mgbada”, that antelope she mentioned opened my curiosity,I began asking her questions even where she was(awum onye Agbor) her accent has been installed in my subconscious mind,they way Agbor people speak is identical to Abriba way that is their accent,and I hear Abriba too,Am also getting used to Kwale,mr. Chukwuma is always coming to our place, he even named our dog some months ago.
In conclusion I don’t claim all these, it’s my own personal experience that am relating,Igbo language is very deep and all the Igbo I have ever come across the one that made me scratch my head is [b]Egbema[/b]and I only had an encounter with one egbema man from Rivers,am also curious to know more about their dialect and also know if it’s the same dialect the ones in Imo speak too or if it’s different .
Lastly I don’t force anyone to be Igbo, anyone can be what they like(I don’t take Agbor,Ikwerre as Igbo, but mind what u say about Anioma depending on how u group them,an average man will skin u alive if u tell him his not Igbo

I don't understand Ibo.
Ive lived amongst them right from 2016, a pause in 2017 and from late 2018 till now.
Its what they told me ive said.

besides, I'll tour the east soon, I hope to learn the origin of the Ibos,

oyatz:


In human sociology, never say anything is impossible.

Ex-black slaves in Brazil, Cuba and other countries Latin America have their own religious cults and deities like The Santeria Cult.

Yeah, the leader of a community can adopt any religion or worship any deity that provide solutions to his (mostly political) problems especially in a highly superstitious environment like African societies in the 19th century.

Those cults if allowed will not be permitted to have their deities kill indigenous children.

For that python to kill children anyhow it wishes, It is a deity of the indigenes

HornyTave:
This one no deh nairaland

I'll take Tao11 Tao12 serious when he tries to claim Okpameri

That guy is right in a way because it’s neither the Itsekiri nor the Yoruba claiming one another.

Rather, it’s the Itsekiris (from time immemorial till the present-day) affirming and re-affirming their rightful place in the Yoruba heritage.

And no Yoruba sub-group have any right in a way to snatch their rightful Yoruba heritage from them.

The following written and video testimonies from the Itsekiris in the 1800s and 2021 respectively supports my point that it is their testimony and they have right to it:

HornyTave:
[s]Lol... Funny boy...
So youve asked them where they are from and they told you they are from Yoruba? Lol[/s]

Do you read comments while your eyes are closed?

(1) I presented you two testimonies of Itsekiri elders in the 1800s. Let’s hope you’ll read them this time:

(I) “Let me now refer briefly to the tribes that people this part of the world. First we come to the Jakris, who are connected in race and language with the Yoruba people, extending from the Mahin country on the west to the Forcados on the East, and inland about as far as Sapele.”

~ H. L. Gallwey, “Journeys in the Benin Country, West Africa,” The Geographical Journal, Vol. 1, No. 2 (Feb., 1893), p.127.

(II) “In this respect, however, the officials agree with the tradition of the people at Warri, the Jekries, who claim to come from the west.”

~ H. Ling Roth, “Great Benin: Its Customs, Arts and Horrors,” (1903), pp.8-9.

(2) In case reading is too much work for you, I also embedded a video. In fact, I pointed timestamps.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKLTie7LhKQ

(I) At timestamp 7:01 to 7:13 of the video, Chief Robinson Ariyo (the Egogo of Warri Kingdom) said:

“… Yoruba, a place where we are from … our roots.”

(II) At timestamp 8:22 to 8:27 of the video, Chief Isaac Jemide (the Oshodin of Warri Kingdom) said:

“… we are a Yoruba people as such.”


Cc: DubaiLandLord

TAO11:
That guy is right in a way because it’s neither the Itsekiri nor the Yoruba claiming one another.

Rather, it’s the Itsekiris (from time immemorial till the present-day) affirming and re-affirming their rightful place in the Yoruba heritage.

And no Yoruba sub-group have any right in a way to snatch their rightful Yoruba heritage from them.


The following documented and video testimonies of the Itsekiris from the 1800s and in 2021


Cc: DubaiLandlord

you still haven't explained.

1. Ginuwa ruling house
2. Evben and Ada
3. The identity between Itshekiri and Binis in royal coronation and ordinance

Don't give me the Ada and Evben is a corrupt word of the Yoruba because

1. Ogiso Ere introduced the Ada and Evben
2. Ogiso Ere is the 2nd Ogiso while Oranmiyan was the 37th Ogiso.
3. Evben means leave in my language.
4. They neither meant justice or mercy.

also can you tell me who was the first Ooni of Ife and how many Ooni ruled Ife before Oranmiyan, I havent found a satisfactory answer.


PS : do you notice the guy holding the Ada, is always with the Olu? that's a culture kf the binis

HornyTave:
you still haven't explained.

1. Ginuwa ruling house
2. Evben and Ada
3. The identity between Itshekiri and Binis in royal coronation and ordinance

Don't give me the Ada and Evben is a corrupt word of the Yoruba because

1. Ogiso Ere introduced the Ada and Evben
2. Ogiso Ere is the 2nd Ogiso while Oranmiyan was the 37th Ogiso.
3. Evben means leave in my language.
4. They neither meant justice or mercy.

also can you tell me who was the first Ooni of Ife and how many Ooni ruled Ife before Oranmiyan, I havent found a satisfactory answer.

PS : do you notice the guy holding the Ada, is always with the Olu? that's a culture kf the binis

Before educating you on the further questions you asked, I need you to confirm by typing only a YES or NO to the following question.

Again, only a YES or NO, you don’t have to explain in the same comment. You can explain in a separate comment. So, only a YES or NO. Thanks. Now to the actual question:

Were you able to read (with your eyes and mind) and hear (with your ears and mind) from those Itsekiri Chiefs and eyewitness testimonies that the Itsekiris admitted being from the larger Yoruba group??

YES or NO??

Thank you.

HornyTave:


I don't understand Ibo.
Ive lived amongst them right from 2016, a pause in 2017 and from late 2018 till now.
Its what they told me ive said.

besides, I'll tour the east soon, I hope to learn the origin of the Ibos,

its a welcomed idea,and beside what they told us is usually not the truth,I grew up believing Sam Okwaraji was killed in India vs Nigeria match (99-1) through fetish means

Arda1000:
its a welcomed idea,and beside what they told us is usually not the truth,I grew up believing was killed in India vs Nigeria match (99-1) through fetish means

Lol... well, my analysis on the percentage of the language they speak still stand,

HornyTave:


Lol... well, my analysis on the percentage of the language they speak still stand,

aside politics it’s irrelevant to me, I can hear and understand them to a mutual extent,If an Mbaisi man is kidnapped by some Ika speaking people and they are having a conversation in front of the person planning and saying they would kill him with their native dialect the percentage that he would understand them even if they maintained a calm body language is almost 100%,I can’t say the same of,Benin,Yoruba or Hausa he would be totally lost at what they are saying,and ofcourse they bear Igbo first names and most importantly their last name are Igbo,if today an Agbor man(Christian) is in the North and Godforbid 1963 repeat itself, his as nyamiri as an Nnewi man,even if he gets the chance to shout awu mu onye Agbor am not Igbo oo,do u think they would spare him ?

Nyamiri:
Ogbemudia Is Igbo indeed. No wonder he killed your fathers like dogs. Stupidity is in your lineage.

This is too much sir!

OfoIgbo:


Peterside is also not an Igbo name, yet his Igboness is not in doubt and he personally proclaimed.

Ijaws in Ubani were mere migrant porters and menial labourers. Nothing more nothing less

RobbStark asked a simple question that you should name the War Canoes houses of Opobo that are Igbos but you are saying what's unrelated.

HornyTave:
you still haven't explained.

1. Ginuwa ruling house
2. Evben and Ada
3. The identity between Itshekiri and Binis in royal coronation and ordinance

Don't give me the Ada and Evben is a corrupt word of the Yoruba because

1. Ogiso Ere introduced the Ada and Evben
2. Ogiso Ere is the 2nd Ogiso while Oranmiyan was the 37th Ogiso.
3. Evben means leave in my language.
4. They neither meant justice or mercy.

also can you tell me who was the first Ooni of Ife and how many Ooni ruled Ife before Oranmiyan, I havent found a satisfactory answer.


PS : do you notice the guy holding the Ada, is always with the Olu? that's a culture kf the binis

I’m not sure who you’re pre-responding to with some of the things you typed, but I would educate you still. Agreeing to be educated is up to you.

The autochthonous people of Ode-Itsekiri are Yoruba people from their own testimonies as you must have heard with your ears (in that video) & read with your eyes (in those 1800s eyewitness European accounts).

Ginuwa is a Bini — but he is not an autochthone Bini, he is from the Benin royal house; that is from the Ife-Yoruba lineage.

He fled the Benin palace in search of a save haven. He came to settle amidst the Itsekiris.

He was taken as their king because of the regalia of royalty he came with which identified him to be legitimately Yoruba of Ife descent [See HERE] among other reasons.

In consequence, this explains why you hear Itsekiris calling themselves Yoruba — that is, they understand that both the Itsekiri autochthones & the Itsekiri royal house are of Yoruba descent.

This also explains why (during the Tsola’s coronation) the Ooni of Ife was recognized first before the Benin king.

So, all your Ada&EbenAbere questions are dealt with.

——————
But I’ve educated you separately on the fact that Ada & Abere is from Ife-Yorubaland. I may do that again.

From a linguistic angle, ‘Ada’ has no meaning in Benin language. I have treated this.

In Bini language, cutlass is ‘Ọpia’ & alternatively ‘Ixo’ if used for farming.

In Bini language, sword is ‘Bẹtẹbẹtẹ‘. So, where does ‘Ada’ come in?

Ada does not exist in Bini language. It is found only in Yoruba language, hence it’s usage vis-a-vis monarchy for Benin.
———————

The so-called ‘Ẹbẹn‘ is a very recent Benin alteration of the actual name.

We know this because there are writings from Benin in the 1800s which incorporates the actual name.

Refer to H. L. Roth’s work on Benin published in 1903 which incorporates the actual name that’s now altered to ‘Ẹbẹn’ by the Binis.

The actual name of the insignia as collected from the Binis in the 1800s found in this work is ‘Ẹbẹrẹ’. There is not one instance of the word Ẹbẹn.

Interestingly, the Yoruba name till date of this object is ‘Abẹrẹ’.

Compare this Yoruba word with the older Benin Ẹbẹrẹ and with the newer Benin fabrication Ẹbẹn.

The odd/fraudulent one is obvious. Yoruba is the source again.

—————-
Regarding your Ogiso story, there is no classical Benin writing which says Ogiso Ere introduced such objects to Benin. Only Benin blogs & Benin neighborhood stories of recent times.

More so, the earliest Benin writings states clearly that the Ogiso ‘monarchy’ was introduced to ‘Benin’ from Ife — Again Benin writings NOT Yoruba writings.

Let me know if you have further questions. Make sure they’re reasonable questions though.


Peace!

oyatz:


RobbStark asked a simple question that you should name the War Canoes houses of Opobo that are Igbos but you are saying what's unrelated.

You guys never seize to amaze me. Another Ijaw on the loose licking his wounds. A champion that took cover when his boys were pummeled with raw facts should hide in shame. Hope you can see that the thread has been done and dusted as those who brought evidence to the thread have all gone leaving you in your myseries. Your's will always be on fraudulent history of yesterday's concoted stories. Maybe you need to call Prof. Alagoa to come to your rescue as only him seems to have the fake evidence in his book.
Your inputs is irrelevant as you have nothing to hold on. Come back when men take their sits.

TAO11:
I’m not sure who you’re pre-responding to with some of the things you typed, but I would educate you still. Agreeing to be educated is up to you.

The autochthonous people of Ode-Itsekiri are Yoruba people from their own testimonies as you must have heard with your ears (in that video) & read with your eyes (in those 1800s eyewitness European accounts).

Ginuwa is a Bini — but he is not an autochthone Bini, he is from the Benin royal house; that is from the Ife-Yoruba lineage.

He fled the Benin palace in search of a save haven. He came to settle amidst the Itsekiris.

He was taken as their king because of the regalia of royalty he came with which identified him to be legitimately Yoruba of Ife descent [See HERE] among other reasons.

In consequence, this explains why you hear Itsekiris calling themselves Yoruba — that is, they understand that both the Itsekiri autochthones & the Itsekiri royal house are of Yoruba descent.

This also explains why (during the Tsola’s coronation) the Ooni of Ife was recognized first before the Benin king.

So, all your Ada&EbenAbere questions are dealt with.

——————
But I’ve educated you separately on the fact that Ada & Abere is from Ife-Yorubaland. I may do that again.

From a linguistic angle, ‘Ada’ has no meaning in Benin language. I have treated this.

In Bini language, cutlass is ‘Ọpia’ & alternatively ‘Ixo’ if used for farming.

In Bini language, sword is ‘Bẹtẹbẹtẹ‘. So, where does ‘Ada’ come in?

Ada does not exist in Bini language. It is found only in Yoruba language, hence it’s usage vis-a-vis monarchy for Benin.
———————

The so-called ‘Ẹbẹn‘ is a very recent Benin alteration of the actual name.

We know this because there are writings from Benin in the 1800s which incorporates the actual name.

Refer to H. L. Roth’s work on Benin published in 1903 which incorporates the actual name that’s now altered to ‘Ẹbẹn’ by the Binis.

The actual name of the insignia as collected from the Binis in the 1800s found in this work is ‘Ẹbẹrẹ’. There is not one instance of the word Ẹbẹn.

Interestingly, the Yoruba name till date of this object is ‘Abẹrẹ’.

Compare this Yoruba word with the older Benin Ẹbẹrẹ and with the newer Benin fabrication Ẹbẹn.

The odd/fraudulent one is obvious. Yoruba is the source again.

—————-
Regarding your Ogiso story, there is no classical Benin writing which says Ogiso Ere introduced such objects to Benin. Only Benin blogs & Benin neighborhood stories of recent times.

More so, the earliest Benin writings states clearly that the Ogiso ‘monarchy’ was introduced to ‘Benin’ from Ife — Again Benin writings NOT Yoruba writings.

Let me know if you have further questions. Make sure they’re reasonable questions though.
You keep on fabricating stories without


Peace!

the same Ile Ife that didn't exist until Oduduwa deposed Obatala, whose grandson ( Oranmiyan) started the Oba dynasty in Bini. its like saying, Ife went into the past to give names to Igodomigodo insignias. ( I don't understand how the future gave names to the past )

There were 35 kings in Igodomigodo before the advent of Oranmiyan.
you keep on fabricating stories.
Ogiso dynasty predates Ile Ife and Oranmiyan ( the Oba confirmed it )


The Ada wasn't a farming tool or a War tool also, so the Opia conjunction doesn't hold here. They were symbols of AUTHORITY.

A quick search on Google confirmed the botanical name of Abere is 'Picralima nitida' also known as ' Osu ' in Edo and 'Nkpokiri' in Ibo. lol ( whats your definition of your distorted ' Abere '?) Mhen
Ishan calls leaves Evben or Ehbe ( whats leave in yoruba?)

Eastlink:
How old do you think I am? First you said in one of your post that I was among the older generation that whipped division among Igbo state? You don't know me and you whip up such daft accusation. I'm not even from the SE for starters. So you just ascribe age to someone you don't know. A person who joined nairaland in 2015 should have told you how old he should be. And you are using me to compare Idenna aka Odenigbo Aroli and Abagworo two dudes old enough to be my uncles.

I began following Nairaland and other forums even as a Jambite so my understanding of those fora was intrigued from the culture and travel section. I'm a student of history and I always try to read widely to understand the world view. I'm not like you guys who listen to radio owned, run and managed by Nnamdi Kanu and believe his sentimental perpective. I scrutinize people, I find facts and don't swallow a propaganda hook, line and sinker. If you check my profile you'll see me comment in federal job groups like the Navy and ICPC. I'm not even up to 29 yet. You might be surprised, but I'm way smarter than my age.

Please quit that IPOB attitude. So anyone who does not agrees with you suddenly becomes an
enemy. If that is not daftness I don't know what else to call it. Use your head for once and stop castigating anyone who criticizes your leader and movement. I don't buy your pattern. I see it as a one man show. Your movement does not elevate us politically, socially or economically. Unlike the Ijaw INC or Arewa Youths, IPOB cannot point one influential impact it has bequeated on Ndigbo. Since IPOB came from the dark name one growth Igbos have seen. I saw holes in Kanu right from 2014 and knew his motive was political and not sincere. If I never bought the ideals of MASSOB is it Kanu I'll listen to. I might be young but I'm not easily cajoled to follow someone sheepishly. IPOB as far as I'm concerned has nothing to offer Ndigbo but disaster and stupidity. The earlier Ndigbo throw them and their one-sided views into the dustbin the better for us.

Have you checked my thread on Igbo topics or past posts? I come with scholarly receipts and facts. I brought into circulation with Bkayy many of the old academic excerpts going round with sound well documented history.

And well, 2015 was the height of that mudslinging contest.

Channel your rants well.

oyatz:


RobbStark asked a simple question that you should name the War Canoes houses of Opobo that are Igbos but you are saying what's unrelated.

I want you to access this YouTube video. Start to watch from 5:30, as I need you to observe the Ijaw fedora hats those canoe people are wearing. Now from 6:00, listen to the interviewee mention some of the participants in the Opobo boat regatta competition, which includes OJEZULIGBO, OKWUEME,. OBIEFULE e.t.c


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6pvy66l_4E&t=368s


Anyway, the most popular politician in Opobo has already declared the Igboness of Opobo so you lot are wasting time

HornyTave:


you still haven't explained.

1. Ginuwa ruling house
2. Evben and Ada
3. The identity between Itshekiri and Binis in royal coronation and ordinance

Don't give me the Ada and Evben is a corrupt word of the Yoruba because

1. Ogiso Ere introduced the Ada and Evben
2. Ogiso Ere is the 2nd Ogiso while Oranmiyan was the 37th Ogiso.
3. Evben means leave in my language.
4. They neither meant justice or mercy.

also can you tell me who was the first Ooni of Ife and how many Ooni ruled Ife before Oranmiyan, I havent found a satisfactory answer.


PS : do you notice the guy holding the Ada, is always with the Olu? that's a culture kf the binis

Oranmiyan was the first Oba of Bini and the founder of the incumbent OBA dynasty, he was never an Ogiso.

Ogiso= Ogie + Iso= Kings of the sky.

OfoIgbo:


I want you to access this YouTube video. Start to watch from 5:30, as I need you to observe the Ijaw fedora hats those canoe people are wearing. Now from 6:00, listen to the interviewee mention some of the participants in the Opobo boat regatta competition, which includes OJEZULIGBO, OKWUEME,. OBIEFULE e.t.c


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6pvy66l_4E&t=368s


Anyway, the most popular politician in Opobo has already declared the Igboness of Opobo so you lot are wasting time

This is not about the war canoe houses and the question he asked.


Your line of defence is similar to Chief Jim Nwobodo declaring before the PDP delegates at the 1999 Jos Convention that he himself is also a Northerner and he gave his speech in Hausa Language.

oyatz:



Oranmiyan was the first Oba of Bini and the founder of the incumbent OBA dynasty, he was never an Ogiso.

Ogiso= Ogie + Iso= Kings of the sky.

can you make a scenario narrative how Oranmiyan seized/captured the throne without a fight?

Eastlink:
You guys never seize to amaze me. Another Ijaw on the loose licking his wounds. A champion that took cover when his boys were pummeled with raw facts should hide in shame. Hope you can see that the thread has been done and dusted as those who brought evidence to the thread have all gone leaving you in your myseries. Your's will always be on fraudulent history of yesterday's concoted stories. Maybe you need to call Prof. Alagoa to come to your rescue as only him seems to have the fake evidence in his book.
Your inputs is as irrelevants as you have nothing to hold on. Come back when men take their sits.

Stop writing things that aren't relevant to the question he asked; list the War Canoes houses of Opobo that are Igbo?