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Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MightySparrow: 10:19am On Sep 07, 2021
I was watching a YouTube in which the presenter was talking about the subject matter. Is it scriptural for a woman to co - pastor with her husband? The new trend is found all over the Christian world.
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Ammishaddai: 10:20am On Sep 07, 2021
Bible expressly forbids women from teaching . And for those who don't like what I'm saying tell that to Apostle Paul .
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Nobody: 11:06am On Sep 07, 2021
Ammishaddai:
Bible expressly forbids women from teaching . And for those who don't like what I'm saying tell that to Apostle Paul .

Co-pastoring is not the same thing as teaching
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Ammishaddai: 12:00pm On Sep 07, 2021
PastorM:


Co-pastoring is not the same thing as teaching

Let's not argue semantics. Isn't co-pastoring the same thing as teaching? Or can you find a verse in the bible that gave women authority to "co-pastor" the church ? Answer

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Janosky: 1:41pm On Sep 07, 2021
MightySparrow:
I was watching a YouTube in which the presenter was talking about the subject matter. Is it scriptural for a woman to co - pastor with her husband? The new trend is found all over the Christian world.

Where your Pastorpreneurs & gods of men practice their craft in their business centers since 19gbidigbidi.

Remember, you called their employees "his ministers", NOT God's ministers.
Thank God you note the difference.

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MightySparrow: 2:00pm On Sep 07, 2021
Janosky:


Where your Pastorpreneurs & gods of men practice their craft in their business centers since 19gbidigbidi.

Remember, you called their employees "his ministers", NOT God's ministers.
Thank God you note the difference.

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As usual, trying not to be direct, cunningly dodging answers. I prefer, if you want to educate, be direct.
Jesus Himself would prefer yea, yea or nay, nay.
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:08pm On Sep 07, 2021
Janosky:

Where your Pastorpreneurs & gods of men practice their craft in their business centers since 19gbidigbidi.
Remember, you called their employees "his ministers", NOT God's ministers.
Thank God you note the difference.

grin grin

I don't like interfering in the affairs of the worship of their god because even when you try to tell them what is required to be true ministers of God they will prefer to here from their fellow Churchgoers who will not speak as if they're wrong rather console them even in their blunders! undecided
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MightySparrow: 2:11pm On Sep 07, 2021
Ammishaddai:
Bible expressly forbids women from teaching . And for those who don't like what I'm saying tell that to Apostle Paul .


In the time of Paul and the rest of the apostles, ministries were not like this. Later, what the apostles left behind snowballed to Catholic church. Only church.

However, even then, what is your take about Priscilla and Aquila? The two were into ministry together. IVor.16: 19;; Acts 18: 26

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Ammishaddai: 2:12pm On Sep 07, 2021
MightySparrow:



In the time of Paul and the rest of the apostles, ministries were not like this. Later, what the apostles left behind snowballed to Catholic church. Only church.

However, even then, what is your take about Priscilla and Aquila? The two were into ministry together. IVor.16: 19;; Acts 18:19
They were Christian's, not pastors or church leaders . The duty of every Christian is to preach the gospel, and that's what Aquila and Priscillia were doing
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MightySparrow: 2:14pm On Sep 07, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


I don't like interfering in the affairs of the worship of their god because even when you try to tell them what is required to be true ministers of God they will prefer to here from their fellow Churchgoers who will not speak as if they're wrong rather console them even in their blunders! undecided

Please give direct answers if you have any contribution.
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MightySparrow: 2:15pm On Sep 07, 2021
Ammishaddai:
They were Christian's, not pastors or church leaders . The duty of ever Christian is to preach the gospel, and that's what Aquila and Priscillia were doing
There was a church, not cathedral, in their house.

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:18pm On Sep 07, 2021
MightySparrow:

Please give direct answers if you have any contribution.

You will not accept my contribution because i depends on the Interpretation of the GB so i'll advise you to go and ask Papa! undecided

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MightySparrow: 2:21pm On Sep 07, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


You will not accept my contribution because i depends on the Interpretation of the GB so i'll advise you to go and ask Papa! undecided
You are advised to leave the thread then, let those that have meaningful things to contribute do.

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by DappaD: 2:26pm On Sep 07, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


You will not accept my contribution because i depends on the Interpretation of the GB so i'll advise you to go and ask Papa! undecided

Please brother remember the Watchtower we considered this past weekend about how people’s circumstances can change. wink
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Ammishaddai: 2:30pm On Sep 07, 2021
MightySparrow:

There was a church, not cathedral, in their house.
Oga kindly read this


Acts 18:2–3: "There he became acquainted with a Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, who had recently arrived from Italy with his wife, Priscilla. They had left Italy when Claudius Caesar deported all Jews from Rome. Paul lived and worked with them, for they were tentmakers just as he was."


Acts 18:18: "Paul stayed in Corinth for some time after that, then said good-bye to the brothers and sisters and went to nearby Cenchrea. There he shaved his head according to Jewish custom, marking the end of a vow. Then he set sail for Syria, taking Priscilla and Aquila with him."


Acts 18:26: "When Priscilla and Aquila heard him preaching in the synagogue, they took him aside and explained the way of God even more accurately."
Romans 16:3: "Give my greetings to Priscilla and Aquila, my co-workers in the ministry of Christ Jesus."


1 Corinthians 16:19: "The churches here in the province of Asia send greetings in the Lord, as do Aquila and Priscilla and all the others who gather in their home for church meetings."


2 Timothy 4:19: "Give my greetings to Priscilla and Aquila and those living in the household of Onesiphorus."


These are the only verses where the couple (Aquila and Priscilla )were mentioned in the bible. And if you'll take the time to read , you'll see they were fellow workers with Paul the Apostle , and had often traveled with him on his journey for ministry. They only used their house as a church to accomodate and congregate brethren, and this was a common practice during the days of the early church.


So in essence , they were not leaders to the church

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:45pm On Sep 07, 2021
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm,
Thanks for the reminder my brother! smiley

DappaD:

Please brother remember the Watchtower we considered this past weekend about how people’s circumstances can change. wink

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:03pm On Sep 07, 2021
MightySparrow:

You are advised to leave the thread then, let those that have meaningful things to contribute do.
Jesus had many mature disciples out of which he selected 12 (males) as Apostles {Luke 6:13} this is the foundation stones of the Church of Christ. Revelations 21:14
Some of them had wives but the names of their wives weren't mentioned.
WHY? Because God's Holy Spirit directed Jesus to do what will never bring confusion into the church! As long as women remain anonymous in the Christian congregation there will be peace!

For God is a God not of disorder but of peace. As in all the congregations of the holy ones, let the women keep silent in the congregations, for it is not permitted for them to speak. Rather, let them be in subjection, as the Law also says. If they want to learn something, let them ask their husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the congregation. 1Corinthians 14:33-35

So in the Christian Congregation today women also join us in the disciples making work but they remain SILENT just as nobody knew the names of the wives of the Jesus' Apostles our Governing Body members also have wives who are up and doing in the Christian congregation but they must remain SILENT because it's their husbands that were called to serve as Apostles and Shepherds not them! 1Timothy 2:11-12

So where i (Maximus) and the wife of the Watchtower President is i (as a baptized male Christian) will lead the prayer while she follows humbly, no Mummy GO or Mama! 1Corinthians 11:3 smiley

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Dtruthspeaker: 3:36pm On Sep 07, 2021
PastorM:

Co-pastoring is not the same thing as teaching

Is Co-Pilot not the same as Pilot? Or is Co-Tenant, not a tenant also? Or Co-worker?

Ammishaddai has told you The TRUTH!

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Nobody: 3:59pm On Sep 07, 2021
Ammishaddai:


Let's not argue semantics. Isn't co-pastoring not the same thing as teaching? Or can you find a verse in the bible that gave women authority to "co-pastor" church ? Answer

I'm not arguing. The topic was about co-pastoring. Let's talk about that. God bless.
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MightySparrow: 4:15pm On Sep 07, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

Jesus had many mature disciples out of which he selected 12 (males) as Apostles {Luke 6:13} this is the foundation stones of the Church of Christ. Revelations 21:14
Some of them had wives but the names of their wives weren't mentioned.
WHY? Because God's Holy Spirit directed Jesus to do what will never bring confusion into the church! As long as women remain anonymous in the Christian congregation there will be peace!

For God is a God not of disorder but of peace. As in all the congregations of the holy ones, let the women keep silent in the congregations, for it is not permitted for them to speak. Rather, let them be in subjection, as the Law also says. If they want to learn something, let them ask their husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the congregation. 1Corinthians 14:33-35

So in the Christian Congregation today women also join us in the disciples making work but they remain SILENT just as nobody knew the names of the wives of the Jesus' Apostles our Governing Body members also have wives who are up and doing in the Christian congregation but they must remain SILENT because it's their husbands that were called to serve as Apostles and Shepherds not them! 1Timothy 2:11-12

So where i (Maximus) and the wife of the Watchtower President is i (as a baptized male Christian) will lead the prayer while she follows humbly, no Mummy GO or Mama! 1Corinthians 11:3 smiley


Most of what you discuss or make as JW cardinal belief are not too welcome. Who gave the name Apostles to Peter and others? The nomenclature: Apostles, Prophets, Evangelist, prophets etc are given by Jesus? Today you have President. Others have primates, archbishos, GS, GO, etc. During the time of Jesus, how many women went for house -to - house teaching? Now, JWs do that. Your indoctrination is wrong Sir!
Many things the apostles did were done as needs arose, the making of Deacons which today we have archdeacon in some churches.
The inability for JWs to teach you to remove chaff from wheat is what baffles me.

So the ministry of Aquila and Priscilla, acceptable to apostles, is not to JW?


Delusion!
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by DappaD: 4:55pm On Sep 07, 2021
The explanation MaxInDHouse gave was concise and backed with Scripture. What’s left for you is to either accept or reject it. Let me drop my two cents anyway.

MightySparrow:

Most of what you discuss or make as JW cardinal belief are not too welcome. Who gave the name Apostles to Peter and others?

Mark 3:14(New Living Translation)
“Then he[Jesus] appointed twelve of them and called them his apostles. They were to accompany him, and he would send them out to preach,”
There were not to answer it as titles anyway(Matthew 23:8-12) but that was their responsibility to take the lead amongst God’s people. Acts 6:2


The nomenclature: Apostles, Prophets, Evangelist, prophets etc are given by Jesus? Today you have President. Others have primates, archbishos, GS, GO, etc.

Oh please don’t miscontrue what Max said. There is no president of Jehovah’s Witnesses anywhere. Jesus is the head of the Christian congregation. Ephesians 5:23
The legal entity(Watchtower) representing Jehovah’s Witnesses has a president and its charter to fulfill the requirements for the law(Philippians 1:7c), that’s why none of the GB are in that position.


During the time of Jesus,
how many women went for house -to - house teaching? Now, JWs do that. Your indoctrination is wrong Sir!
Many things the apostles did were done as needs arose, the making of Deacons which today we have archdeacon in some churches.
The inability for JWs to teach you to remove chaff from wheat is what baffles me.
So the ministry of Aquila and Priscilla, acceptable to apostles, is not to JW?

Delusion!


Luke 8:1-3
“Shortly afterward he[Jesus] traveled from city to city and from village to village, preaching and declaring the good news of the Kingdom of God. And the Twelve were with him, as were certain women who had been cured of wicked spirits and sicknesses: Mary who was called Magʹda·lene, from whom seven demons had come out;  Jo·anʹna the wife of Chuʹza, Herod’s man in charge; Su·sanʹna; and many other women, who were ministering to them from their belongings”

What do you think the women were doing with him if not assisting and receiving training to be sent out amongst the 70 later on? Luke 10:1

You totally missed the point of what Max was saying. Sure, women are to be preachers and teachers of the good news to unbelievers(Psalm 68:11) and to set good examples(Titus 2:3) this includes Priscilla the wife to Aquila. Because the commission Jesus gave to his disciples were for both male and female. Matthew 28:19,20

But when it comes to the congregation(amongst fellow believers), women are NOT supposed to teach in the presence of baptized males. 1Timothy 2:12

So calm down and learn from Jehovah’s Witnesses, there’s a lot people are missing out on when they stubbornly reject our message. It could be that one day, you can also come, taste and see that Jehovah is good. Psalm 34:8
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:35pm On Sep 07, 2021
I knew he won't accept the healthful teachings because his heart is crooked no matter how sound and appealing the truth is even when it comes as perfect solution to what's bothering his heart as long as it comes from JWs he will say "it's delusion".
Meanwhile brother i want you to know that JEHOVAH has extended His harm to bless this man as his own blood brother happens to be one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. So he's already receiving his judgment as one of God's servants is close to him! smiley



DappaD:
The explanation MaxInDHouse gave was concise and backed with Scripture. What’s left for you is to either accept or reject it. Let me drop my two cents anyway.
Mark 3:14(New Living Translation)
“Then he[Jesus] appointed twelve of them and called them his apostles. They were to accompany him, and he would send them out to preach,”
There were not to answer it as titles anyway(Matthew 23:8-12) but that was their responsibility to take the lead amongst God’s people. Acts 6:2
Oh please don’t miscontrue what Max said. There is no president of Jehovah’s Witnesses anywhere. Jesus is the head of the Christian congregation. Ephesians 5:23
The legal entity(Watchtower) representing Jehovah’s Witnesses has a president and its charter to fulfill the requirements for the law(Philippians 1:7c), that’s why none of the GB are in that position.
Luke 8:1-3
“Shortly afterward he[Jesus] traveled from city to city and from village to village, preaching and declaring the good news of the Kingdom of God. And the Twelve were with him, as were certain women who had been cured of wicked spirits and sicknesses: Mary who was called Magʹda·lene, from whom seven demons had come out;  Jo·anʹna the wife of Chuʹza, Herod’s man in charge; Su·sanʹna; and many other women, who were ministering to them from their belongings”
What do you think the women were doing with him if not assisting and receiving training to be sent out amongst the 70 later on? Luke 10:1
You totally missed the point of what Max was saying. Sure, women are to be preachers and teachers of the good news to unbelievers(Psalm 68:11) and to set good examples(Titus 2:3) this includes Priscilla the wife to Aquila. Because the commission Jesus gave to his disciples were for both male and female. Matthew 28:19,20
But when it comes to the congregation(amongst fellow believers), women are NOT supposed to teach in the presence of baptized males. 1Timothy 2:12
So calm down and learn from Jehovah’s Witnesses, there’s a lot people are missing out on when they stubbornly reject our message. It could be that one day, you can also come, taste and see that Jehovah is good. Psalm 34:8
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MightySparrow: 9:13pm On Sep 07, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

Jesus had many mature disciples out of which he selected 12 (males) as Apostles {Luke 6:13} this is the foundation stones of the Church of Christ. Revelations 21:14
Some of them had wives but the names of their wives weren't mentioned.
WHY? Because God's Holy Spirit directed Jesus to do what will never bring confusion into the church! As long as women remain anonymous in the Christian congregation there will be peace!

For God is a God not of disorder but of peace. As in all the congregations of the holy ones, let the women keep silent in the congregations, for it is not permitted for them to speak. Rather, let them be in subjection, as the Law also says. If they want to learn something, let them ask their husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the congregation. 1Corinthians 14:33-35

So in the Christian Congregation today women also join us in the disciples making work but they remain SILENT just as nobody knew the names of the wives of the Jesus' Apostles our Governing Body members also have wives who are up and doing in the Christian congregation but they must remain SILENT because it's their husbands that were called to serve as Apostles and Shepherds not them! 1Timothy 2:11-12

So where i (Maximus) and the wife of the Watchtower President is i (as a baptized male Christian) will lead the prayer while she follows humbly, no Mummy GO or Mama! 1Corinthians 11:3 smiley

So in essence, by your analysis your earthly president is given the name by Jesus.
There is no clear cut scriptures that says women joined in house - to - house evangelism
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:24am On Sep 08, 2021
MightySparrow:

So in essence, by your analysis your earthly president is given the name by Jesus.
Men are chosen through the spirit of God so what has that got to do with the question you asked? undecided

MightySparrow:

There is no clear cut scriptures that says women joined in house - to - house evangelism
You only ask to argue, you don't read even when you need answers to important questions. In that way you're not helping yourself. Now read this.
DappaD:

Luke 8:1-3
“Shortly afterward he[Jesus] traveled from city to city and from village to village, preaching and declaring the good news of the Kingdom of God. And the Twelve were with him, as were certain women who had been cured of wicked spirits and sicknesses: Mary who was called Magʹda·lene, from whom seven demons had come out;  Jo·anʹna the wife of Chuʹza, Herod’s man in charge; Su·sanʹna; and many other women, who were ministering to them from their belongings”
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by petra1(m): 7:24am On Sep 08, 2021
MightySparrow:
I was watching a YouTube in which the presenter was talking about the subject matter. Is it scriptural for a woman to co - pastor with her husband? The new trend is found all over the Christian world.

is it about female or about Pastors wife because these are 2 different isuues?

Anybody can co Pastor as God leads. there were female Pastors in the bible . There were couple Pastoring together in the bible.

1 Corinthians 16:19
19 The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.


Pricilla and Aquila are are husband and wife. They did the work of ministry together.

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:39am On Sep 08, 2021
petra1:

is it about female or about Pastors wife because these are 2 different isuues?
Anybody can co Pastor as God leads. there were female Pastors in the bible . There were couple Pastoring together in the bible.
1 Corinthians 16:19
19 The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.

This is a good question because many people often assume that the word "CHURCH" means a building dedicated as a place of worship but it simply means a group of Christians.

There are no female Pastors in Bible times because pastors shepherd a group of Christians but it's unscriptural for females to hold such a position! 1Corinthians 14:34-35; 1Timothy 2:11-12




petra1:

Pricilla and Aquila are are husband and wife. They did the work of ministry together.

YES. Pricilla and Aquila were a Christian couple who helped many people like Apollos in the first century {Act 18:24-26} but the wife only assists her husband during Bible study she mustn't lead a man during worship! 1Corinthians 11:3 smiley
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by petra1(m): 8:13am On Sep 08, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

YES. Pricilla and Aquila were a Christian couple who helped many people like Apollos in the first century {Act 18:24-26} but the wife only assists her husband during Bible study she mustn't lead a man during worship! 1Corinthians 11:3 smiley

Paul was dealing with a peculiar problem in Corinthians church. its an issue of husband and wife in my opinion . Iin christ there is no male or female.

Priscilla Helped to teach Apollos Scriptures.
if its wrong for a woman to.teach then her name should not have been mentioned.

Acts 18:26 (KJV)
26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:59am On Sep 08, 2021
petra1:

Paul was dealing with a peculiar problem in Corinthians church. its an issue of husband and wife in my opinion . Iin christ there is no male or female.
Priscilla Helped to teach Apollos Scriptures.
if its wrong for a woman to.teach then her name should not have been mentioned.
Acts 18:26 (KJV)
26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.


Of course some women, ladies and even little girls also participated in teaching me what i know today, but after my baptism none of them is qualified to stand before me and TEACH not even me but anyone else as long as i'm present because i (as a male) must serve as the head during anything sacred {1Corinthians 11:3} unless she is studying the Bible with an interested person whom she preached to, and if i'm present she must cover her head as a sign of respect for a baptised male Christian present! 1Corinthians 11:5-10
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by petra1(m): 10:26am On Sep 08, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Of course some women, ladies and even little girls also participated in teaching me what i know today, but after my baptism none of them is qualified to stand before me and TEACH not even me but anyone else as long as i'm present because i (as a male) must serve as the head during anything sacred {1Corinthians 11:3} unless she is studying the Bible with an interested person whom she preached to, and if i'm present she must cover her head as a sign of respect for a baptised male Christian present! 1Corinthians 11:5-10


Every indication shows that Priscilla is the Pastor or leader and her husband is rather playing supportive role

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:38am On Sep 08, 2021
petra1:

Every indication shows that Priscilla is the Pastor or leader and her husband is rather playing supportive role

In that case Paul was wrong:
1Corinthians 14:33-35
1Timothy 2:11-13
right? smiley
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by LordReed(m): 11:02am On Sep 08, 2021
MightySparrow:
I was watching a YouTube in which the presenter was talking about the subject matter. Is it scriptural for a woman to co - pastor with her husband? The new trend is found all over the Christian world.

Not a new phenomenon at least in or lifetime. There have been husband and wife pastor/preaching duos since the early part of the 20th century.
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:12am On Sep 08, 2021
LordReed:

Not a new phenomenon at least in or lifetime. There have been husband and wife pastor/preaching duos since the early part of the 20th century.
Exactly after Jesus has sent Satan out of heaven in 1914 and commotion set in the way majority wants to practice their own Christianity ignoring what the Bible say! 2Timothy 4:3 smiley

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