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Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by contactwale: 9:14pm On Sep 11, 2021


The ongoing debate about Value Added Tax (VAT) has been both interesting and enlightening.

As a converted fencist however, I have not lost any sleep over it. I am experienced enough never again to stick my neck out for polticians and their political rigmaroles. Even if states are allowed to collect VAT, how will that better the lots of us citizens?

No, fencists are not neutralists.

We have our politicial biases. We have only decided to be objective and not totally accept or reject anything. We believe that in bad, there is good and in good, there is bad. So, fencism is not neutralism. It is only about not taking sides, afterall one can not be totally right or be totally wrong.

Yes, I agree the development is a step in the right direction in our attempt to restructure the country. However, it will only translate to more money for some states which will eventually end in the pocket of the politicians. What have they done with the ones they have been collecting?

Since the debate commenced, the social media space has been awashed with different conjectures, some good, some bad, some ugly. However, the one I find rather disturbing is about the contribution of Lagos State to the total VAT revenue generated by the Federal Government. It is gradually becoming entrenched that even tax experts and economists have started quoting the figure without taking a second look at it.

It is said that when lie is allowed to go unchallenged, it becomes truth before public. Hence, the need for this piece.

In 2018, the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) released data about the vehicle number plate production in Nigeria. A breakdown of the statistics showed that Lagos has the highest with 60.87 per cent. Since the report was released, many had assumed that over fifty (50) percent of vehicles in the country are in Lagos and have been going around with that impression.

Of course, this is not correct. We know that many non-Lagosians prefer to have Lagos number on their vehicles despite that they do not reside in Lagos.

The same interpretation has been given to a statement by a former Minister of Finance, Mrs. Kemi Adeosun. In August 2017, Mrs. Adeosun revealed that 55 per cent of the revenue generated by the Federal Government from Value Added Tax receipts was being collected from Lagos State.

Last Wednesday, at a public hearing on "A Bill for the law to impose and charge value Added Tax on certain goods and services provided for the administration of the tax and other Related Matters", the Speaker of Lagos State House of Assembly, Mudashiru Obasa was quoted to have said that Lagos State generates an excess of N500 billion in Value Added Tax annually.

Nothing can be more misleading.

While it may be correct to say that 55% of VAT generated in Nigeria is COLLECTED from Lagos, it is wrong to concluded that the 55% is GENERATED in Lagos.

VAT by definition is CONSUMPTION tax.

It is levied on a product repeatedly at every point of sale at which value has been added. The tax is added when a raw materials producer sells a product to a factory, when the factory sells the finished product to a wholesaler, when the wholesaler sells it on to a retailer, and, finally, when the retailer sells it to the consumer who will use it.

In summary, VAT is borne by the final consumer.

Under the Nigerian VAT regime, Nigerian companies that are carrying on VATable transactions are obligated to deduct VAT at source and remit directly to the tax authority, which is Federal Inland RevenueService (FIRS). So, if you are a company with offices in all the states of the federation, VATs are calculated at the head office and remitted in the state where the Head office is located.

This has worked "in favour" of Lagos State.

In Nigeria, the headquarters of many of the big companies are in Lagos. So, when VATs collected for all goods and services in all states of the federation are computed, they are paid in Lagos. In essence, what is paid in Lagos by that company is not what is generated in Lagos alone, but in all the states where the compay's good and services are connsumed.

Let us use the mobile phone industry for illusration.

As at Q4 of 2020, the total number of mobile phone subscribers in Nigeria was put at 204.6 million. The breakdown in each of the geo-political region is as below:

1. South West- 58.37million (28.5%)
2. North West- 42.53 million (20.8%)
3. North Central- 37.07 million (18.1%)
4. South South- 29.6 million (14.5%)
5. South East- 20.1 million (9.8%)
6. North East- 16.96 million (8.3%)

Out of the above figure, the total number of mobile phone subscribers in Lagos 24.88 million subscribers (or 12.1%).

Other states in the top 10 include Kano State (12.67million), Ogun State (12.01 million) Oyo State (10.45 million), FCT (9.01 million), Kaduna State (8.71 million), Rivers (7.46 million) Edo State (7.1 million), Delta State (6.91 million), Niger State (6.53 million) and Anambra State (5.79 million)

However, because the headquarters of all the mobile phone companies are in Lagos, the VATs collected from the subscribers from sales of airtime, data etc in all the 36 states and the FCT are calculated and remitted in Lagos. So, whereas the VAT is remitted in Lagos, not all is generated in Lagos.

So, if mobile phone companies paid N50billion to FIRS in Lagos as VAT in August 2021 for example, it is entered as VATs collected in Lagos. This is despite the fact that Lagos State constribute "just" 12.1% of the mobile phone subscribers.

The same applies to other big companies like Nestle Plc, Nigerian Breweries PLC, Flour Mills of Nigeria and all the banks who have their head offcies in Lagos.

In summary, Lagos is paying VAT on behalf of other states. This is not to dispute the fact that Lagos may be contributing more than 50% of the 55% VAT collected in the state.

That is why I disagree with the River State Governor about his jibe that "You can’t contribute humongous numbers during elections that can’t translate to tax earnings for your state". If VAT is calculated and remitted based on where the goods are consumed, it will be clear that population is a major factor when it comes to generation of VAT.

Unfortunately, the way the collection of VAT has been structured in Nigeria has made some states to look as if they are useless.

As the debate continues, I will not be surprised if the template used in collating VAT is editted in the nearest future to reflect where the good and services are actually consumed. That is, if FIRS eventually wins at the Supreme Court.

Until then, make politicians continue to take una catch cruise. As for me, I nor dey house.

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Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by rottennaija(m): 9:51pm On Sep 11, 2021
This VAT issue is more complicated that the states wants to make it seem. Someone took time to analyse this on tweeter.

https://twitter.com/wFalabede/status/1435962698743877634?s=19

Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by rottennaija(m): 10:01pm On Sep 11, 2021
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Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by rottennaija(m): 10:02pm On Sep 11, 2021
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Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by countryfive: 10:06pm On Sep 11, 2021
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Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by BeardedMeat(m): 10:14pm On Sep 11, 2021
That guy can shove his analysis where the sun don't shine. He's not more knowledgeable than the team of experts in the states

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Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by thewarrior72: 12:18am On Sep 12, 2021
^^^
Read the article with open mind u will realise that the man is spot on. If States don't work on modalities on how and at what point vat is collected then goods and devices are going to face multiple taxations from different States. Nevertheless, I am in full support of States being in charge of vat.

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Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by edoairways: 12:36am On Sep 12, 2021
Good analysis
Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by omowolewa: 12:44am On Sep 12, 2021
You have tried.
Take it or leave it, allowing state to collect VAT will spin off the competition needed for growth.

The States with production and extractive capacities would benefit more as the major VAY payable would be on main product. If you like get lazy in collections before exiting your state.

The the second beneficiaries are states with conducive environment for Value Additions and consumption. States willing to use what is between their ears for ease of doing business.

I believe VAT is coming to Concurrent list and I think it will bring the needed competitions to play.

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Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by ehinmowo: 3:24am On Sep 12, 2021
Dem don employ idiots to carry disinformation on VAT. Anyways, law don pass the rest na story.


Body go tell una how far in the next couple of years. Una never know wetin dey happen yet.

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Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by Validated: 4:31am On Sep 12, 2021
This is what we call "analysis-paralysis", you do not need all this jargon. Just ask how HST is managed in other climes. You pay output and net-off input, you do not need all the analysis the guy embarked on. Moreover, VAT is self-assessed, so not require any agency like FIRS. What does FIRS add to VAT processing? That is to deceive the uneducated.
Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by Faiththatworks(m): 4:39am On Sep 12, 2021
This article is full of gibberish and I think it's time to stop this very faulty and baseless argument about VAT.
I have read too much along this very infantile line of thought about lagos's contribution to the VAT pool in Nigeria.
It's illogical for anyone to argue about how Lagos generates the highest income of VAT because the headquarters of some multi Nationals are domiciled in the state.
Lagos internal generated revenue for 2020 is around 400 billion,this is tax from people income,so how can anyone dispute that the state can't generate another 500 billion from consumption tax.
VAT is 7.5%, meaning the yearly income from consumption in Lagos is around 6.5 trillion yearly,a further breakdown means Lagos generates only a taxable income of around 18 billion naira everyday.
This figure can't be argued with,I think it's nonsensical to say the total income made for VAT is a paltry figure of 18 billion daily in Lagos State, considering the total activities that goes on in the state.
Those who are pushing this one sided argument about the total figure of Lagos VAT contribution should realise that there is a lot of economic activities that generate VAT in the state.
I pay VAT anytime I buy my recharge card in the state,I pay VAT anytime I recharge my prepaid meter,I pay VAT anytime I eat in some restaurants in Lagos and even sleep in some hotels,I wonder how that can be linked to multi National companies in the state.
Let all these lazy governors stop shedding crocodile tears and brace up or do the Honorable thing and step down for people who have better ideas to rule the state.

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Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by In2systemsTech(m): 7:00am On Sep 12, 2021
No more free money for lazy States...

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Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by rottennaija(m): 7:18am On Sep 12, 2021
omowolewa:
You have tried.
Take it or leave it, allowing state to collect VAT will spin off the competition needed for growth.

The States with production and extractive capacities would benefit more as the major VAY payable would be on main product. If you like get lazy in collections before exiting your state.

The the second beneficiaries are states with conducive environment for Value Additions and consumption. States willing to use what is between their ears for ease of doing business.

I believe VAT is coming to Concurrent list and I think it will bring the needed competitions to play.

In the mean time, the majority suffer as goods and services will skyrocket in price.

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Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by Firstinline(m): 7:27am On Sep 12, 2021
I just hope this VAT money to State will not translate to more money into the pocket of politicians. The likes of Tinubu and his goons.
Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by id911(m): 7:48am On Sep 12, 2021
Firstinline:
I just hope this VAT money to State will not translate to more money into the pocket of politicians. The likes of Tinubu and his goons.

Whether it translates to more money for Tinubu or not I don't care. Let each state collects VAT. In fact, let's decentralize revenue collection and sharing. Abuja shouldn't collect money and share. It's untinkable for Nigeria to move forward that way. Let each state generate and keep it revenues and pay some percentage to the Federal Government. That way, states will start looking inward.

Any states that's not viable should cut down its expenses or merge. This is the only way we'd have creative people in governance and ultimately rapid growth and development.

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Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by joyandfaith: 7:57am On Sep 12, 2021
id911:


Whether it translates to more money for Tinubu or not I don't care. Let each state collects VAT. In fact, let's decentralize revenue collection and sharing. Abuja shouldn't collect money and share. It's untinkable for Nigeria to move forward that way. Let each state generates and keeps it revenues and pay some percentage to the Federal Government. That way, states will start looking inward.

Any states that's not viable should cut down its expenses or merged. This is the only way we'd have creative people in governance and ultimately rapid growth and development.

Beautiful point!!!

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Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by seunmsg(m): 8:13am On Sep 12, 2021
What exactly is the point the OP is trying to make? Why are they making the entire debate about Lagos? Whether Lagos will generate N500b or N1b is nobody’s business. Once we finally decide to allow states to collect VAT, everyone will know their real worth. All these wailing to blackmail Lagos is unnecessary and won’t work.

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Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by adefitim(m): 8:41am On Sep 12, 2021
This writer is making sense or what do y’all think?
Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by UselessBuhari: 8:49am On Sep 12, 2021
seunmsg:
What exactly is the point the OP is trying to make? Why are they making the entire debate about Lagos? Whether Lagos will generate N500b or N1b is nobody’s business. Once we finally decide to allow states to collect VAT, everyone will know their real worth. All these wailing to blackmail Lagos is unnecessary and won’t work.
Waheed is a Yoruba muslim doing Fulani biddings as usual

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Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by persius555(m): 8:51am On Sep 12, 2021
Faiththatworks:
This article is full of gibberish and I think it's time to stop this very faulty and baseless argument about VAT.
I have read too much along this very infantile line of thought about lagos's contribution to the VAT pool in Nigeria.
It's illogical for anyone to argue about how Lagos generates the highest income of VAT because the headquarters of some multi Nationals are domiciled in the state.
Lagos internal generated revenue for 2020 is around 400 billion,this is tax from people income,so how can anyone dispute that the state can't generate another 500 billion from consumption tax.
VAT is 7.5%, meaning the yearly income from consumption in Lagos is around 6.5 trillion yearly,a further breakdown means Lagos generates only a taxable income of around 18 billion naira everyday.
This figure can't be argued with,I think it's nonsensical to say the total income made for VAT is a paltry figure of 18 billion daily in Lagos State, considering the total activities that goes on in the state.
Those who are pushing this one sided argument about the total figure of Lagos VAT contribution should realise that there is a lot of economic activities that generate VAT in the state.
I pay VAT anytime I buy my recharge card in the state,I pay VAT anytime I recharge my prepaid meter,I pay VAT anytime I eat in some restaurants in Lagos and even sleep in some hotels,I wonder how that can be linked to multi National companies in the state.
Let all these lazy governors stop shedding crocodile tears and brace up or do the Honorable thing and step down for people who have better ideas to rule the state.

These people usually in the habit of twistin the narrative when it doesnt suit them. This time it wont work. Just like you explained, if your state is generating so much than already been recorded by FIRS, why isnt the states generating much more for themselves as IGR.
Everywhere in the world, sellers are responsible for collecting VAT for the government.
If you think you deserve more, then add value to products in your domain and quit whinning or attempting to twist the narrative in your favor.

Op, just looking more unintelligent than he is with this cooked up article.
Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by Ereolamide: 9:32am On Sep 12, 2021
Southerners are the most useless humans in Nigeria, listen to arguments against the collection of VAT by states they are spearheaded by this set of politically correct, pseudo intellectual fools.

How many northerners came out to speak against the PIB when it clearly favors them? None.

Our white collar fools down here blurt out rubbish only to the detriment of their region, they're only alive to the corruption of their fellow southerners, they shame their leaders while the North protect theirs own.

Bunch of Bastards.
Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by christistruth01: 9:41am On Sep 12, 2021
The Op forgot that Federal government will need to refund 21 years worth of VAT it wrongly collected since 1999 to Lagos and Rivers States
Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by Ngorbungor(m): 10:11am On Sep 12, 2021
adefitim:
This writer is making sense or what do y’all think?
Making better sense, what Abia, Anambra, Enugu needs to do is to increase their own VAT on finished goods simple, remember Abia and Anambra have the largest SME's cluster in West Africa

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Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by id911(m): 11:19am On Sep 12, 2021
seunmsg:
What exactly is the point the OP is trying to make? Why are they making the entire debate about Lagos? Whether Lagos will generate N500b or N1b is nobody’s business. Once we finally decide to allow states to collect VAT, everyone will know their real worth. All these wailing to blackmail Lagos is unnecessary and won’t work.
OP should be recommended for thorough medical examination. Whether APC or PDP, all of us down South must support States to collect VAT. In fact, if Lagos or Ogun makes so much money from VAT and maybe state like Ekiti doesn't make much, Lagos or entire SW can come together and use their resources to administer the entire SW. Such should be replicated in other Zones in the South. Enough of robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Ereolamide:
Southerners are the most useless humans in Nigeria, listen to arguments against the collection of VAT by states they are spearheaded by this set of politically correct, pseudo intellectual fools.

How many northerners came out to speak against the PIB when it clearly favors them? None.

Our white collar fools down here blurt out rubbish only to the detriment of their region, they're only alive to the corruption of their fellow southerners, they shame their leaders while the North protect theirs own.

Bunch of Bastards.
Don't mind those educated fools called Southerners. Their so-called education is useless. All States in the South are supposed to come together and immediately enact VAT laws but some will never do it because of their masters in Abuja.
Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by Nobody: 11:27am On Sep 12, 2021
One of my friends was arguing with me in the office yesterday, north is not productive, and she was carrying JUMIA product in her hands, I asked her, you make Lagos productive, now you are in Abuja, this product is from Lagos, you paid this VAT in Lagos.. Lagos does nothing different from other. By the time this law start fully, if JUMIA don't have the office in Abuja, they will not allow them to operate in Abuja.. most of these governors and their cabinet are daft. What happen to tweeter is awaiting for some company, NAIRALAND may cease to exist because I can't pay money for advert from Abuja and you pay tax to SOWULU in Lagos.
Re: Lagos VAT Contribution: Between Fact And Fiction by Ngorbungor(m): 11:49am On Sep 12, 2021
supportnija:
One of my friends was arguing with me in the office yesterday, north is not productive, and she was carrying JUMIA product in her hands, I asked her, you make Lagos productive, now you are in Abuja, this product is from Lagos, you paid this VAT in Lagos.. Lagos does nothing different from other. By the time this law start fully, if JUMIA don't have the office in Abuja, they will not allow them to operate in Abuja.. most of these governors and their cabinet are daft. What happen to tweeter is awaiting for some company, NAIRALAND may cease to exist because I can't pay money for advert from Abuja and you pay tax to SOWULU in Lagos.


That's how it suppose to be, if jumia can't have office in Abuja or ABA or Ibadan, at least they should stay put in Lagos and serve Lagos market or partner with locals if they want to remain a national brand

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