Offpoint1:

Then why does billions of Christians believe Jesus was/is God? Even after clearly reading a thousand times in Jesus words he was not equal to God.

Is something wrong with the cognitive abilities?

How can Jesus be God when he clearly stated he was sent by God?

Offpoint1:

Then why does billions of Christians believe Jesus was/is God? Even after clearly reading a thousand times in Jesus words he was not equal to God.

Is something wrong with the cognitive abilities?

How can Jesus be God when he clearly stated he was sent by God?

tctrills:

Hmm nice answer bit my main focus is where he says he saw the father do these things. Are you saying he never sawant the father raise the dead and pay for sins?

tctrills:

Hmm nice answer bit my main focus is where he says he saw the father do these things. Are you saying he never sawant the father raise the dead and pay for sins?

tctrills:

Sorry, it was a mistake I meant to write Jesus Christ

AntiChristian:


I have a general view on it.

Jesus as well as other Prophets did what God instructed them to do.

However I don't believe God had a son or sent anyone to die...

chatinent:
Who is Jess Christmas?

I don't understand you.

I think you need to get a Bible with a new-word translation. It is tasking to understand the old Englishes, you know.

By the way, in anything you are doing, your mentality should begin from knowing Jesus is not God.

mac699:
You need to understand that Jesus is God in human form.

When you understand whom Jesus is then you will see that everything was planned my God and excuted by Christ for mankind redemption

I can't explain everything here. But know whom Jesus is.

tctrills:
Please I would love your explanationsite of these verses
John 5.19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.
21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom.

My question is, from these verses, can we imply that the father onces suffered and died for sin?
Jess Christmas says, everything he did, he first saw his father do it.
So did the father also suffer and die for the sins of man?

Eberex:


Hahahaha

Relax and understand.

Son doesn't mean "Son" like a woman giving birth to your child. You are taking it too literally.

Son, here refers to God's word. God is spirit. His words are living and they are life, not like ours. He spoke His words and everything came into existence. Jesus is that word.

So in essence, Jesus is the word of God. Jesus is the son of God.

You are thinking like one without the holy spirit dude

GT84:

Abeg make you also know say Jesus Na God o
John 1:1-3...and the WORD WAS GOD

NobleRace:
'What the Father does in the spirit, I execute in the physical.'

God is Spirit, He doesn't operate in the physical. Jesus discerns what the Father does, wills or desires, and immediately acts obediently to fulfil it.

That's what Jesus was saying in those statements.

Brightale:
so you mean, we are also word of God, just like Jesus.

chatinent:


If the Word is God, the same verse said the Word was with God. Can sb who is God still be with God?

The same John wrote John 17:3. Read it and open your eyes and be set free.

tctrills:
Please I would love your explanationsite of these verses
John 5.19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.
21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom.

My question is, from these verses, can we imply that the father onces suffered and died for sin?
Jess Christmas says, everything he did, he first saw his father do it.
So did the father also suffer and die for the sins of man?

Eberex:


Guy, are you sure you are a Christian.

Listen to yourself.

I'm not sure you even understand your questions

victorazy:


Many ways Jesus indirectly told He is father in human form.

Jesus is God himself.

Eberex:


Simple English.
The word was with God answers the question on Trinity. God the father, God the son and God the holy spirit.

In the beginning was the word. The word was with God, and the word was God.

Eberex:


Simple English.
The word was with God answers the question on Trinity. God the father, God the son and God the holy spirit.

In the beginning was the word. The word was with God, and the word was God.

Kobojunkie:
1. You need to get a translation of the Bible in a language you can more easily understand.
God shows Him, Jesus Christ, what He the Father Wills to happen, and He Jesus Christ in turn submits to and does the Father's Will.

So, no, God did not first suffer and die for man before Jesus Christ did. Instead God Willed it that Jesus Christ will suffer and die, Jesus Christ in obedience submitted to doing the Will of the Father.

justfrankz:
1 John 4:2-3 “Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.”

Brother, please hold fast to your KJV Bible. Do not listen to these devils especially the JWs tying to convince you to get other corrupt versions. Only KJV Bible is the pure and perfect word of God. Study and ask God to help you understand. It will take time but the more you study that Book, the better you understand. What matters is your heart.

AntiChristian:
So why didn't Jesus know the hour when he was asked?

His father refuses to inform him?

SeriouslySense:
To my little understanding, of which i may be wrong, because God is complex, and he only Shows what he wants to show to the people.

What I understand by this verse is that Jesus is 100 percent in unity with God, because he is also God, this is why whatever the father does the Son can also do.

And another way to understand it, is that Jesus and the Father are truly one, Jesus does what he does according to what the father does, so the saying is true, Listen, O Israel, for the Lord, is One.

finally, if we take it literally, as it comes, it could mean, Jesus, humbles himself So that God is glorified and in this process of revelations, God is revealed in Jesus or through Jesus, so that the Son is also Glorified, for the Lord is One.

Brightale:
Then why did he cry on the cross saying "Father, why have you forsaken me?"

victorazy:


That's when the spirit of the father was separated from his body because of sin.

God is God as Father (In heaven)
God is Jesus as Flesh (Earth)
God is Spirit as Power or Force (Manifestation)

Jesus is God in human flesh
God as spirit and overseer
Holy as power and force.

All na one body GOD

Jesus is God the creator of all Himself.
That's why He told Setan not to temp the Lord his God and Setan flee hearing that comment because he knew how he was bitten in heaven.

tctrills:

I don't understand, are you sating that in another version of the bible, it says differently.
If so, which version would we believe? Also, could you please tell me the name of the other version you are talking about?
I would love to read from a different bible and compare. Hopefully that wouldn't increase confusion.

DeRichard:


Bible passages have spiritual meanings. What Jesus meant is whatever he does it's God that makes him do it, they communicate as in the spirit as he is being directed my God to do it.

highness25:
That's what happens when you copy and paste. Try and write from your own understanding

Brightale:
LOL, Jesus is God, The spirit of God left him, that's why God the Father left him. Meaning God didn't Know that some people will try to kill him by crucification.

SeriouslySense:
I hope you find your answers, its an interesting question.

Bornboy4:
May Anointing oil be upon you.
Some bigots would tell you Jesus is God!

SeriouslySense:
For raising the dead, I don't know about that, because God is complex, and he has been living with no beginning, we don't know what happened before our universe was created, so there are some questions we cannot really answer, and even in our history, we are not aware of so many things that happened in the world, after creation, or the kind of dialogue that was going on between the persons of God.

But from the bible, it was part of God's plan that Jesus should die on the cross. Jesus also said that we should pay more attention to our salvation than things we cannot comprehend yet, heaven will be a very interesting place, we will keep learning.