You are welcome.

SugarSpill:



Sir you have not just displayed little understanding of the bible but rather, you have manifested deep heavenly understanding of the scriptures. I'M BLESSED. Many thanks.

victorazy:


Jesus never cry for Almighty to save him in fact He made it clear if he want, the host of heaven would come down for him.

When the load of the world was on him on the cross, the part of God in him left because that part can not withstand sin, he was left as man on cross until he gave up the ghost.

LoL, he never cried you say!!! He said "Oh Lord why have you forsaken me!" Meaning he asked his God. Then you are saying he didn't cry, he even sinned by saying what he said. Then you said the spirit of God in him can't withstand the sin, are you downgrading God almighty, ordinary sin that God created himself is what you claimed part of him that was in Jesus can't withstand some sins.

victorazy:


Go and put the removed verses

Na so that father of all lairs will be twisted everything deceiving you guys. Common sense supposed be teaching you guys, but.....

Why are you even opening the Bible? What will i be looking in the Quran?

Before you tell somebody that he is wrong, you have to give him all reasonable evidence that show he or she is upon a wrong path. Salvation is not attained by blind faith, but by a reasonable evidence upon truth. Even Jesus is quoted to have said:
"Know you the truth for the truth shall set you free."

I am a proud Muslim but that didn't close my mind to other religions. I believed I studied the Bible more than many Christians. That is an all evidence of an educated and enlightened mind. Feel free to exploit the world and all its ideas.

The Bible has shown that the same religion practice by Muslims is the same religion of Jesus, Moses and others before them.

Feel free to read the Qur'an and judge it for yourself. Don't close your mind to ideas and listen to other people's opinion of Islam and the Qur'an.

Brightale:
LoL, he never cried you say!!! He said "Oh Lord why have you forsaken me!" Meaning he asked his God. Then you are saying he didn't cry, he even sinned by saying what he said. Then you said the spirit of God in him can't withstand the sin, are you downgrading God almighty, ordinary sin that God created himself is what you claimed part of him that was in Jesus can't withstand some sins.

Am not hear to mingle with low IQ ppl.

My statement was clear, go and read it over.

It seems I've given you much attention.
Not gona reply you again.

UsmanBabaIdris:

Before you tell somebody that he is wrong, you have to give him all reasonable evidence that show he or she is upon a wrong path. Salvation is not attained by blind faith, but by a reasonable evidence upon truth. Even Jesus is quoted to have said:
"Know you the truth for the truth shall set you free."

I am a proud Muslim but that didn't close my mind to other religions. I believed I studied the Bible more than many Christians. That is an all evidence of an educated and enlightened mind. Feel free to exploit the world and all its ideas.

The Bible has shown that the same religion practice by Muslims is the same religion of Jesus, Moses and others before them.

Feel free to read the Qur'an and judge it for yourself. Don't close your mind to ideas and listen to other people's opinion of Islam and the Qur'an.

It seems I've given you enough attention.

With not discuss this issue with you again.

emmyN:


It means Jesus is the Father

Explain biko.

SeriouslySense:
its possible the answers are in the bible, if you keep looking or you keep asking, you will find it.

Fingers crossed

genkins:

Stop reading the heretic King James Bible.. U will just be confusing yaself

Explain... how do you tell which version is better. I guess neither you nor I was born when any of these where writen.
So you need to explain yourself better when you say stuff like this

Andy15:
NEW WORLD TRANSLATION it uses simple easy to understand english.

Both bibles are saying the very same thing. The son saw and learnt everything from the father. Everything Jesus did, the father first did.
19 Therefore, in response Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing.+ For whatever things that One does, these things the Son does also in like manner. 20 For the Father has affection for the Son+ and shows him all the things he himself does, and he will show him works greater than these, so that you may marvel.+ 21 For just as the Father raises the dead up and makes them alive,+ so the Son also makes alive whomever he wants to.

UsmanBabaIdris:

You first need to asked yourself WHERE DID THE DIFFERENT BIBLES and VERSIONS CAME FROM?
God cannot be the author of all the different Versions!

I donthink know where the different bibles came from. Please educate me.

victorazy:


You cannot explain the ways of God.

In the heaven, Jesus is the word that comes out of God but later is was made flesh "Jesus".
But before then, God communicated to man directly, later that word was made flesh to come and teach the word to the world not to be heard by some eg. Moses, Pa Elijah etc.

That word is God himself, he has been there, he witnessed all, he created all, thats why Jesus told Satan " Don't temp Lord your God".

If believer can't explain the ways of God, then we are no more than non believer
John 17.3 This is life eternal that they may know thee the only true God and Jesup Christmas whom thou has sent

Eph4.13Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ.

It is God's will that we all come to a perfect knowledge of him.

tctrills:

Explain biko.

It's as simple as it sounds. Jesus is the Father revealed in the visible world of form. But the lamb was slain before the foundation of the world, which is before the physical appearance of Jesus. Selah

emmyN:


It's as simple as it sounds. Jesus is the Father revealed in the visible world of form. But the lamb was slain before the foundation of the world, which is before the physical appearance of Jesus. Selah

You are talking about something else, another topic for another day.
You said the scripture I quoted means that Jesus is same as God.. that is what I needed you to explain

Offpoint1:

Then why does billions of Christians believe Jesus was/is God? Even after clearly reading a thousand times in Jesus words he was not equal to God.

Is something wrong with the cognitive abilities?

How can Jesus be God when he clearly stated he was sent by God?

Jesus is God.

In John 10:30 Jesus himself said that he and the Father are one. And that was why the Jews sought to kill him because he equated himself with God.

A lot of people do not understand that God is a title and not a specific name. The name of the Father is Yahweh. The Christian God exists in the Godhead (The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit) which is the essence of God. The Trinity or Godhead is made up of three distinct entities who are all God because they are manifestations of the Father. God is defined by attributes. God is the creator of the world, the giver of life and forgiver of sins.

Whenever Jesus says "My God", he is referring to the Father but that does not make Jesus not to be God. Jesus has been recorded to forgive sins, give life (even in the Quranic account), was there at creation and would come to judge the world. All these being task and capabilities of God.

In Genesis 1:26, God said "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, ...."
Man is made in the image of God and yet here God says "Let us". Clearly God was not talking to angels or any other beings that could not be equated to Him because those whom He was talking to apparently had the same image with Him. That was why God said "in our image, in our likeness".

In some other religion the concept of God is different and trying to understand the Christian God through their views can create difficulties. For example in Islam, God is called Allah but has no specific name. He is only described by other labels such as the Merciful, etc. So for Muslims or anyone coming from similar background, understanding Trinity or Godhead from their own concept of God is not easy.

Babinski:


Jesus is God.

In John 10:30 Jesus himself said that he and the Father are one. And that was why the Jews sought to kill him because he equated himself with God.

A lot of people do not understand that God is a title and not a specific name. The name of the Father is Yahweh. The Christian God exists in the Godhead (The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit) which is the essence of God. The Trinity or Godhead is made up of three distinct entities who are all God because they are manifestations of the Father. God is defined by attributes. God is the creator of the world, the giver of life and forgiver of sins.

Whenever Jesus says "My God", he is referring to the Father but that does not make Jesus not to be God. Jesus has been recorded to forgive sins, give life (even in the Quranic account), was there at creation and would come to judge the world. All these being task and capabilities of God.

In Genesis 1:26, God said "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, ...."
Man is made in the image of God and yet here God says "Let us". Clearly God was not talking to angels or any other beings that could not be equated to Him because those whom He was talking to apparently had the same image with Him. That was why God said "in our image, in our likeness".

In some other religion the concept of God is different and trying to understand the Christian God through their views can create difficulties. For example in Islam, God is called Allah but has no specific name. He is only described by other labels such as the Merciful, etc. So for Muslims or anyone coming from similar background, understanding Trinity or Godhead from their own concept of God is not easy.

Funny how contradicting your reply is.

Wake up from that false belief born out of lack of understanding.

Jesus was never, neither is God. Jesus was only given God authority, it doesn't make him God himself in a literal word.

John 3:16
Explain what you understand by "For GOD so love the world, that HE gave his only begotten SON...

Mark 16:19
Explain what you understand by:... He ascended into heaven and seated by the right hand side of God

Mark 15:34
Explain what you understand by: ....My God, my God why have you forsaken me.

Can explain what does verses mean to me?

Claiming Jesus is God is one of the greatest falsehood in Christianity.

To further clear you up, that Jesus Christ was never God himself.. Kindly read this last verse carefully and tell me what you understand about it.

Matthew 24:36

No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, NOR THE SON, but only the FATHER.

This is a verse clearly showing Jesus is not God himself and each of the verses up were direct words from Jesus mouth.

Stop the false teachings, Jesus was given God authority and never was he God... He never claimed to be even when he was on earth.

Please before you answer, read carefully and take note of all my bolded texts.


Lastly John 10:30 was an expression which most of Christians fail woefully to understand.

If I say "me and father are 1" I'm not in saying that in a literal form, rather an expression to let people know... I share alot of things in common with my father. We are close paddies, we do everything together, he doesn't hide anything from me, I can stand in his place and give/represent whatever authority represents.

This was the expression Jesus used.

atonement12:
Insinuating 'affirmative mistakes'?.. and still refuses to edit!
Keep supporting depmonic mischiefs!

Seriously I just don't think he did it on purpose

JosephXavier:


He was sent by God to fulfil a purpose which was to reunite man to God by death on the cross

After which he was exalted and given a name above every other name "Jesus" Philippians 2:9

Meaning it was after he died for man and said that "It is finished" John 19:30 that he concluded the assignment God sent him to do.

How does that according your reply made Jesus God? He was sent by God, simply meaning he's not God.

victorazy:


Am not hear to mingle with low IQ ppl.

My statement was clear, go and read it over.

It seems I've given you much attention.
Not gona reply you again.

After proving thier points to be illogical, they say we lack holy spirit or have low IQ.

Bye

Offpoint1:

Funny how contradicting your reply is.

Wake up from that false belief born out of lack of understanding.

Jesus was never, neither is God. Jesus was only given God authority, it doesn't make him God himself in a literal word.

John 3:16
Explain what you understand by "For GOD so love the world, that HE gave his only begotten SON...

Mark 16:19
Explain what you understand by:... He ascended into heaven and seated by the right hand side of God

Mark 15:34
Explain what you understand by: ....My God, my God why have you forsaken me.

Can explain what does verses mean to me?

Claiming Jesus is God is one of the greatest falsehood in Christianity.

To further clear you up, that Jesus Christ was never God himself.. Kindly read this last verse carefully and tell me what you understand about it.

Matthew 24:36

No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, NOR THE SON, but only the FATHER.

This is a verse clearly showing Jesus is not God himself and each of the verses up were direct words from Jesus mouth.

Stop the false teachings, Jesus was given God authority and never was he God... He never claimed to be even when he was on earth.

Please before you answer, read carefully and take note of all my bolded texts.


Lastly John 10:30 was an expression which most of Christians fail woefully to understand.

If I say "me and father are 1" I'm not in saying that in a literal form, rather an expression to let people know... I share alot of things in common with my father. We are close paddies, we do everything together, he doesn't hide anything from me, I can stand in his place and give/represent whatever authority represents.

This was the expression Jesus used.

I will appreciate if you point out the alleged contradictions in my earlier response. He who asserts carries the burden of proof.

Now to respond to you proper, I presume you are not a Christian and just someone picking those verses from the Bible to back a predetermined position. If I presume wrongly, prove me wrong.

I have told you, God is a title and for Christians, that is the Godhead or the Trinity. The original languages of the Bible are Hebrew and Aramaic. If you read through Genesis 1 you would see it used God throughout. But when it came to Genesis 2 it used "The Lord God". In Hebrew the former is Elohim which is generic name for the Godhead and in English is translated as God. The latter is Elohim-Yahweh which specifically refers to the Father in the Godhead and translated in English as Lord God. All your bolded refrences on God are to Elohim which is Godhead. If Jesus uses it, he refers to the Father, Yahweh. If it is used by anyone else, it is simply Godhead and can mean Father, Son or the Holy Spirit.

If you are a Muslim you will find the concept of Trinity or Godhead very hard to understand because the Islamic God has no specific name. Allah is a generic name for the supreme being and even that name predates Islam. And accepting Trinity is contrary to Islamic faith.

However, if you cearly understand that God is a title, just like King, you would see things differently.

The statement in John 10:30 is best understood from John 10:33 where the Jews present and who heard Jesus speak those words said: "We are not stoning you for any good work," they replied, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God." Where did Jesus claim to be God? It is none other than in John 10:30 which preceeded their accusation. Both the speaker and hearer clearly understand themselves centuries before you own personal interpretation!

There is no doubt that Jesus saying I and my Father as one imply Jesus is God.

Babinski:


I will appreciate if you point out the alleged contradictions in my earlier response. He who asserts carries the burden of proof.

Now to respond to you proper, I presume you are not a Christian and just someone picking those verses from the Bible to back a predetermined position. If I presume wrongly, prove me wrong.

I have told you, God is a title and for Christians, that is the Godhead or the Trinity. The original languages of the Bible are Hebrew and Aramaic. If you read through Genesis 1 you would see it used God throughout. But when it came to Genesis 2 it used "The Lord God". In Hebrew the former is Elohim which is generic name for the Godhead and in English is translated as God. The latter is Elohim-Yahweh which specifically refers to the Father in the Godhead and translated in English as Lord God. All your bolded refrences on God are to Elohim which is Godhead. If Jesus uses it, he refers to the Father, Yahweh. If it is used by anyone else, it is simply Godhead and can mean Father, Son or the Holy Spirit.

If you are a Muslim you will find the concept of Trinity or Godhead very hard to understand because the Islamic God has no specific name. Allah is a generic name for the supreme being and even that name predates Islam. And accepting Trinity is contrary to Islamic faith.

However, if you cearly understand that God is a title, just like King, you would see things differently.

The statement in John 10:30 is best understood from John 10:33 where the Jews present and who heard Jesus speak those words said: "We are not stoning you for any good work," they replied, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God." Where did Jesus claim to be God? It is none other than in John 10:30 which preceeded their accusation. Both the speaker and hearer clearly understand themselves centuries before you own personal interpretation!

There is no doubt that Jesus saying I and my Father as one imply Jesus is God.

First of all, get rid the impression that I'm a Muslim.

And secondly, you didn't answer my questions I asked in all those verses I quoted.

If you don't have the understanding to answer all of them, I want you to explain Matthew 24:36
because that's the verse simple enough to clear your follies.
If Jesus was God himself, he wouldn't have made the "nor the son" statement... That verse alone has shattered the TRINITY

And please wherever I made use of "God" I'm referring to Yahweh, if that will be clearer to you.

chatinent:



You left the points to stick to what you always heard without checking.


Even the custodians of the trinity dogma don't believe in it no more. Who sent you?

Just say you don't understand it.

Brightale:
I do, just that I'm trying to understand your version, because yours sounds different

You are the one who doesn't understand.
It's simple logic and I don't see why you cannot comprehend it

Offpoint1:

First of all, get rid the impression that I'm a Muslim.

And secondly, you didn't answer my questions I asked in all those verses I quoted.

If you don't have the understanding to answer all of them, I want you to explain Matthew 24:36
because that's the verse simple enough to clear your follies.
If Jesus was God himself, he wouldn't have made the "nor the son" statement... That verse alone has shattered the TRINITY

And please wherever I made use of "God" I'm referring to Yahweh, if that will be clearer to you.

You have refused to point out my contradictions as claimed in your earlier response. That gives me an impression you use words flippantly.

That aside, you claim not to be a Muslim and you are apparently not a Christian. So what are you? If you are an atheist it is pointless discussing God with someone who doesn't agree God exists in the first instance. Why I am concerned about your religion is to discern if you really want to learn or already have a position you hold regardless of any evidence or superior argument.

Matthew 24:36 is clear. The Son is Jesus Christ and the Father is Yahweh. Nothing in that verse shatters Trinity eccept you do not know what Trinity means.

Your concluding statement shows you are confused. See, Yahweh is God, Jesus is God but Jesus is not Yahweh. The Son is not the Father. But both the Son and the Father are God. God is a title. God is Godhead. God is Elohim. Elohim can refer to Jesus, Yahweh or the Holy Spirit. The word God is a TITLE! Let that sink in. Just like King.

If you ask a Muslim who created Adam, he will respond that it is Allah (God). But you now ask him why did Allah say in Quran 15:26 that "We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape...". Who are the WE? The average Muslim becomes silent at this point because the concept contradicts his monotheistic God belief. The apologetic Muslim will try to say Allah is trying to honour himself by referring to himself in the plural just like the Yoruba use "They said" for what a single adult said as mark of respect. But this is Allah talking about himself and not a third party report. Who would he say he shared the task of creating Adam with? The answer is explained through Trinity and the Godhead. That WE is borrowed clearly from the Bible. Elohim is plural. And in Genesis 1 God is translated from Elohim in the original Hebrew version. Elohim is Trinity and the Godhead.

So saying you have an argument from the Bible to defeat Trinity shows you have no understanding of Trinity in the first place.

The entire message borders on the unity of the God-head and the authority of God the father over Jesus Christ, the son.
It does not mean that God literally did everything verbatim like Jesus did while on earth as a divine person in a human form. I don’t think God ate fish and broke bread like Jesus did with his disciples. Or that God came down to Jordan to be baptized by John.

Rather the totality of the message and work of Christ in the atonement is understood that God had planned it from the foundation of the universe and noted the role Jesus Christ would play.

The verses below indicate some distinct duties of Jesus Christ. God wouldn’t have done that for Jesus to try to do later as Jesus said he alone is assigned to do that.

And the other verse talks about the necessary existence of Jesus. He existed on his own and his existence is not contingent on anything.

“Even the Father judges no one, for He has given all judgment (the last judgment and the whole business of judging) entirely into the hands of the Son,”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:22‬ ‭AMPC‬‬

“So that all men may give honor (reverence, homage) to the Son just as they give honor to the Father. [In fact] whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, Who has sent Him.”
John 5:23 AMPC

“For even as the Father has life in Himself and is self-existent, so He has given to the Son to have life in Himself and be self-existent.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:26‬ ‭AMPC‬‬

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Babinski:


You have refused to point out my contradictions as claimed in your earlier response. That gives me an impression you use words flippantly.

That aside, you claim not to be a Muslim and you are apparently not a Christian. So what are you? If you are an atheist it is pointless discussing God with someone who doesn't agree God exists in the first instance. Why I am concerned about your religion is to discern if you really want to learn or already have a position you hold regardless of any evidence or superior argument.

Matthew 24:36 is clear. The Son is Jesus Christ and the Father is Yahweh. Nothing in that verse shatters Trinity eccept you do not know what Trinity means.

Your concluding statement shows you are confused. See, Yahweh is God, Jesus is God but Jesus is not Yahweh. The Son is not the Father. But both the Son and the Father are God. God is a title. God is Godhead. God is Elohim. Elohim can refer to Jesus, Yahweh or the Holy Spirit. The word God is a TITLE! Let that sink in. Just like King.

If you ask a Muslim who created Adam, he will respond that it is Allah (God). But you now ask him why did Allah say in Quran 15:26 that "We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape...". Who are the WE? The average Muslim becomes silent at this point because the concept contradicts his monotheistic God belief. The apologetic Muslim will try to say Allah is trying to honour himself by referring to himself in the plural just like the Yoruba use "They said" for what a single adult said as mark of respect. But this is Allah talking about himself and not a third party report. Who would he say he shared the task of creating Adam with? The answer is explained through Trinity and the Godhead. That WE is borrowed clearly from the Bible. Elohim is plural. And in Genesis 1 God is translated from Elohim in the original Hebrew version. Elohim is Trinity and the Godhead.

So saying you have an argument from the Bible to defeat Trinity shows you have no understanding of Trinity in the first place.

LOL, you guys are quick to term someone who raise a question an atheist, Muslim or unbeliever.
That was how I raised a question in student school and I was given a demon title.

If you failed to figure out your contradictory statement at the 2nd reply, then it's not in my duty to point it out.

This long episode is because you failed to understand or... Let me you subtly don't want to accept the fact the "God" I used in all my statements and biblical verses was referring to "Yahweh"

You've finally answer my question by saying "Jesus is not Yahweh" that's the answer I needed the entire time you were writing epistle.


About the trinity, I smiled reading your reply about me not knowing what it is.

I wouldn't want to drag on that.

To clear your doubts, I believe in God existing... But disagree on so many things Bible scholars taught, wrote, interpret and preach about him.

tctrills:

That's your interpretation and I appreciate it. So you are saying Jesus didn't see or learn from the father but the verse meant something else right?

No, for Jesus to say he learnt from the Father, he was right. What he meant is what God tells him to do is what he does that and in other words he learnt from the Father.

tctrills:

Both bibles are saying the very same thing. The son saw and learnt everything from the father. Everything Jesus did, the father first did.
19 Therefore, in response Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing.+ For whatever things that One does, these things the Son does also in like manner. 20 For the Father has affection for the Son+ and shows him all the things he himself does, and he will show him works greater than these, so that you may marvel.+ 21 For just as the Father raises the dead up and makes them alive,+ so the Son also makes alive whomever he wants to.

well i don't think it means that God did every exact thing that Jesus did i just think it means that God taught him everything he knows and he tries to imitate God's qualities

Andy15:
well i don't think it means that God did every exact thing that Jesus did i just think it means that God taught him everything he knows and he tries to imitate God's qualities

also you should consider verse 18, i think that assumption that the people made is the reason he said the words in verse 19-21. He was trying to make it clear that God was far greater than he was. So he said everything he knew he learnt from God and his actions were based(not exactly) on what he had seen God do.

Offpoint1:

LOL, you guys are quick to term someone who raise a question an atheist, Muslim or unbeliever.
That was how I raised a question in student school and I was given a demon title.

If you failed to figure out your contradictory statement at the 2nd reply, then it's not in my duty to point it out.

This long episode is because you failed to understand or... Let me you subtly don't want to accept the fact the "God" I used in all my statements and biblical verses was referring to "Yahweh"

You've finally answer my question by saying "Jesus is not Yahweh" that's the answer I needed the entire time you were writing epistle.


About the trinity, I smiled reading your reply about me not knowing what it is.

I wouldn't want to drag on that.

To clear your doubts, I believe in God existing... But disagree on so many things Bible scholars taught, wrote, interpret and preach about him.

If everyone had understood God completely, theology schools and seminaries would have been shut down. So don’t stress yourself over the academic knowledge about God.
Have a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ as taught by the scriptures, follow the godly injunctions in the scriptures and love your Neighbour as thyself.

All our emotional and academic doubts will be cleared in time and some may never be cleared.


However do you mind sharing with us some of the things you disagree as taught by Bible scholars? And what you think is okay with scriptural backings?

Thank you.

Offpoint1:

Funny how contradicting your reply is.

Wake up from that false belief born out of lack of understanding.

Jesus was never, neither is God. Jesus was only given God authority, it doesn't make him God himself in a literal word.

John 3:16
Explain what you understand by "For GOD so love the world, that HE gave his only begotten SON...

Mark 16:19
Explain what you understand by:... He ascended into heaven and seated by the right hand side of God

Mark 15:34
Explain what you understand by: ....My God, my God why have you forsaken me.

Can explain what does verses mean to me?

Claiming Jesus is God is one of the greatest falsehood in Christianity.

To further clear you up, that Jesus Christ was never God himself.. Kindly read this last verse carefully and tell me what you understand about it.

Matthew 24:36

No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, NOR THE SON, but only the FATHER.

This is a verse clearly showing Jesus is not God himself and each of the verses up were direct words from Jesus mouth.

Stop the false teachings, Jesus was given God authority and never was he God... He never claimed to be even when he was on earth.

Please before you answer, read carefully and take note of all my bolded texts.


Lastly John 10:30 was an expression which most of Christians fail woefully to understand.

If I say "me and father are 1" I'm not in saying that in a literal form, rather an expression to let people know... I share alot of things in common with my father. We are close paddies, we do everything together, he doesn't hide anything from me, I can stand in his place and give/represent whatever authority represents.

This was the expression Jesus used.

Only God had ever forgiven sins.
In the gospels Jesus forgave sins, and the religious leaders said it was sacrilegious.

Only God ought to receive worship, the Gospels account that Jesus was worshipped and he never cautioned or stopped them from worshipping him.

The last of the Gospels John had so much to say about Jesus being same as his father God.

If you don’t mind, the epistles by Paul and Hebrews had a lot to say about Jesus being same with God.

If you don’t like the accounts of the Epistles, you can stick to Matthew, Mark and Luke. But if you like John, a lot was written there too.

Thomas also exclaimed “My Lord and my God” and Jesus did not challenge or correct that.

Thank you.