seyigiggle:
your narrative is loopsided and misleading.

do you really understand what consumer tax means?

let's assume you make bulk purchase of indomie in lagos, you are treated as a consumer in Lagos, therefore you would pay the tax.

now, when the indomie arrive say jigawa, any one purchasing (consumer) in jigawa would also pay tax for consumption.

Nope u don't understand the VAT is already inclusive at the point of purchase from the manufacturers, when u sell in jigawa u re only transferring the vat u paid to the manufacturers to the consumers because the are the final users.

Meaning the vat paid in Lagos is paid by the potential consumers of the products.

The dealer is just a channel or way to market for the manufacturers.

When he sale to jigawa consumers he is recovering his money inclusive tax paid and profit.

The tax in Lagos is on behalf of his potential consumers not the dealer.

Anuofia, we know about your veiled hate and envy towards Anambra. You parade over 200 monikers including galaxypropertie, ihatewike, etc.

Why would you ask the guy for the source if not because you doubted him out of your envy and bitterness?

I will keep exposing you ediots that hide within igbo unity to hate on Anambra due to your envy toward the progressive state.

Proeast, it was still you that would always boast that "imo is this and that in SE ", why limit it to SE, why not extend it to Nigeria? Useless hypocrite. Na me fit una.

Onye ala

Ezi ofia


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proeast:

Nwa bingo from almajiri states claiming to be from Anambra. Look at how he is trying to reduce this to a contest between Igbo states when it's a national problem between North and South. Only an ignorant fool who doesn't know you're an imposter from parasitic North.I asked for the source because I have been searching for data on VAT generation among states. How does that indicate I'm not happy for Anambra?Anambra is probably the most Industrialized state in both SE and SS, but you will always limit it to SE just to sow seed of discord among brothers and not promote SE.Your hate for anything Igbo is known by all, you can't love Anambra and hate Igbos because only an imposter will do that. You with your 100 monikers and that guy that calls himself juliusmalema are hateful imposters using Anambra to attack Igbo interests.Anu ohia!
Ezi Bida!!

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darfay:


As an accountant, I can never let your stupidity and misinformation slide just like that. vat is a consumption based tax that falls on the final consumer. Vat is charged on value addition, the manufacturer charges vat on the difference between cost of input and output (value added). So the distributor or whoever is next in line buys from them vat inclusive and sells to the consumer inclusive of vat charged for his own value addition, the final consumer buys Vat inclusive of the distributor, manufacturer etc and bears the brunt of it all. No be only HQ, that's the dumbest shit ever my Goddd!!

The distributor did not add any value thus cannot charge VAT, the distributor is only a sales channel from the manufacturer to the consumers nothing more and get commission for his channel. The manufacturers whom added value to products the they manufactured and sell are the only people required to charge VAT. Ur degree is questionable bro.

codemaniacs:








This is Wrong.

You don't know what VAT is...

VAT is collected in each state when a sale is made in that state.

Lagos has the highest population with the highest purchasing power in the country so it's VAT is always going to be high.

Lagos VAT can never reduce because it collects VAT generated only in Lagos.

Stop spreading wrong information.

Yes that is the ideal situation but in Nigeria I those not happen that way.

But VA decentralization is a welcome idea most people will be shocked at how the numbers will be looking like.

Positivepoint:


Yes that is the ideal situation but in Nigeria I those not happen that way.

But VA decentralization is a welcome idea most people will be shocked at how the numbers will be looking like.

That's how it happens in Nigeria. You're the one that would be shocked at how the numbers will look.

Safyqueen:


This revolution may not end or give the results the southern states are imagining.
The north has several minerals untapped, they will be pushing for it to be harnessed from the federal government The banking sector dominated by the west will be held by the juglar as northerners will pull out and set their own. Telecommunication too will suffer same fate. The Southerners doing businesses in the north will not find it easy again.

Remember, with technology and willing foreign partners, it will take little time for the north to achieve that and face the South tit for tat.
Hatred will set in, seccession will gain ground, foreign interests will expand and exploit the cracks, war will break out, advance countries sells ammunition to both sides and smiles to the bank and Africa will get destroyed and recolonised again.

So what do you think we are doing now as a country. A governor just because of a policy he wants to change will just open his mouth wide open and be insulting a whole region of a country just to spite the president or what?

If Nigerians cannot live as one, separation is the next option. After all, the British didn't consult each of the regions before lumping us together. I don't know why balkanization should give anyone concerns.

greatiyk4u:
The VAT saga will affect everybody because states will now become serious with taxation which will affect all of us as everyone will be forced to start paying, besides, I am for states collecting the VAT so that only serious minded people will vie for elective positions

This will also give room for developments. Each state would want to create businesses and develop hitherto moribund economic structures that could help them produce more for themselves.

TEDHorsePower:
[s]Anuofia, we know about your veiled hate and envy towards Anambra. You parade over 200 monikers including galaxypropertie, ihatewike, etc.

Why would you ask the guy for the source if not because you doubted him out of your envy and bitterness?

I will keep exposing you ediots that hide within igbo unity to hate on Anambra due to your envy toward the progressive state.

Onye ala

Ezi ofia

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You sleep and wake up hating on other Igbo states but whenever any Igbo state (including Anambra) is attacked by either North or West, the same Igbos you hate will defend Anambra but you imposter will go to sleep or just wait to see how you will conveniently side with them to attack Imo, Enugu, Abia or Ebonyi.

Go to threads about these Igbo states and your different monikers will be everywhere spilling bile against them.

You're not smart enough to pull off your impersonation, because anyone can easily see through it.

Stop decieving yourself and return to the North where you come from. Anambra people are not known to be foolish. Do you see real Anambra people like attacking other Igbo states? No! Because he is a real Igbo man to the core! But abobaku imposters like you from Kogi state will always be disgracing yourself and your entire generation.

Onye aburu onu!
Anumachobiri!!
Ezi ohia!!!

Safyqueen:


This is the question that is hard to find accurate answer.
A man load MTN card in Sokoto and paid VAT on it. MTN turned in the VAT in Lagos because that's where MTN head office is located, is it fair for Lagos to say they owned it whole when the payer is in Sokoto.
North has hisbah police that frown at beer consumption and should not take from VAT therefrom but the grain used in manufacturing the beer is from the north which has no tax because agricultural produce is excluded from VAT to protect hunger.

Moreover the beer consumption in sabongari alone in Kano state is higher in volume than what is consume in Ekiti state for example.

So there is nothing special that Wike is doing in Rivers to enhance VAT that Tambuwal cannot do in Sokoto to enhance same. It is just the geographical location vis-a-vis oil that is presently the mainstay of economy that Rivers State play host to the headquarters of the supervising companies that lead to the VAT Rivers is boasting about.

Other state has their comparative advantages to imposes several taxes on, which will not be good to our economy as regards ease of businesses.

So VAT is better handled by FIRS.

Very lame excuse, if product like recharge card get multiple tax. Its to the detriment of the state which MTN head quarters is not found.
Let them charge vat on agricultural produce nobody is interested in "brothers keeper nonsense"

codemaniacs:


That's how it happens in Nigeria. You're the one that would be shocked at how the numbers will look.

Pls go to ur revenue office and ask if the VAT on ur recharge card is remitted in ur state first.

codemaniacs:








This is Wrong.

You don't know what VAT is...

VAT is collected in each state when a sale is made in that state.

Lagos has the highest population with the highest purchasing power in the country so it's VAT is always going to be high.

Lagos VAT can never reduce because it collects VAT generated only in Lagos.

Stop spreading wrong information.

You have no Idea

Stupid post from an envious frustrated fellow. Who asked you to come in defence of Anambra? We all know how you roll here, by making veiled posts that intend to promote your backward Imo state and put down others.

This is not the first you are doing it. We fought over this in Anambra thread until I decided to move to Imo thread, that was when you slowed down.

All we asked is that you face your backward useless worthless shithole Imo state. Anambra people are enough on nairaland to talk a out their state.

Onye abulu onu

Onye ala

Onye nenye nsi

Onye Obi ojoo

Onye ekwensu kpolu oku.

Ezi ofia

Anuofa

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proeast:

You sleep and wake up hating on other Igbo states but whenever any Igbo state (including Anambra) is attacked by either North or West, the same Igbos you hate will defend Anambra but you imposter will go to sleep or just wait to see how you will conveniently side with them to attack Imo, Enugu, Abia or Ebonyi. Go to threads about these Igbo states and your different monikers will be everywhere spilling bile against them. ou're not smart enough to pull off your impersonation, because anyone can easily see through it. Stop decieving yourself and return to the North where you come from. Anambra people are not known to be foolish. Onye aburu onu!
Anumachobiri!!
Ezi ohia!!!

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Positivepoint:



Nope u don't understand the VAT is already inclusive at the point of purchase from the manufacturers, when u sell in jigawa u re only transferring the vat u paid to the manufacturers to the consumers because the are the final users.

Meaning the vat paid in Lagos is paid by the potential consumers of the products.

The dealer is just a channel or way to market for the manufacturers.

When he sale to jigawa consumers he is recovering his money inclusive tax paid and profit.

The tax in Lagos is on behalf of his potential consumers not the dealer.

Positivepoint:



The distributor did not add any value thus cannot charge VAT, the distributor is only a sales channel from the manufacturer to the consumers nothing more and get commission for his channel. The manufacturers whom added value to products the they manufactured and sell are the only people required to charge VAT. Ur degree is questionable bro.

You obviously don't know what VAT is..

If the distributor is not the manufacturer then the distributor is also a consumer who pays VAT when buying the products from the manufacturer.

The distributor ( wholesale consumer ) then sells it to other consumers ( small scale consumers like you and other people ) who will also pay VAT when buying it.

Positivepoint:



Pls go to ur revenue office and ask if the VAT on ur recharge card is remitted in ur state first.

Emir01:



You have no Idea

You both have no idea.

The street vendors selling recharge cards in your state pay VAT to the distributor of the recharge cards in your state.

You and some other people on this thread are Buuhari media consultants paid to spread mis-information.

It's pointless to keep replying your comments

proeast:


Don't worry about SE, as you can see from the data, we actually receive less than what we generate as VAT. SE got the least from VAT allocations when we don't generate the least.

You won't find any SE state among the least generating states yet you will find them among the least earning states. Even Ebonyi generates more VAT than lots of other states.

SE will benefit massively once states are allowed to keep their VAT earnings.

You lie sir.you receive more than what you generate

consumer tax is not a recoverable cost to a consumer.

Positivepoint:



Nope u don't understand the VAT is already inclusive at the point of purchase from the manufacturers, when u sell in jigawa u re only transferring the vat u paid to the manufacturers to the consumers because the are the final users.

Meaning the vat paid in Lagos is paid by the potential consumers of the products.

The dealer is just a channel or way to market for the manufacturers.

When he sale to jigawa consumers he is recovering his money inclusive tax paid and profit.

The tax in Lagos is on behalf of his potential consumers not the dealer.

codemaniacs:




You both have no idea.

The street vendors selling recharge cards in your state pay VAT to the distributor of the recharge cards in your state.

You and some other people on this thread are Buuhari media consultants paid to spread mis-information.

It's pointless to keep replying your comments

The vat paid is only transferable that is why the cost does not increase and remain uniform.

SmartPolician:
This is the beginning of the end of the feeding bottle syndrome. Again, this is the time to know how smart or dull the northern and South East governors are. They must think out of the box to be able to run their states. For instance, el-Rufai is doing a great job with IGR improvement in Kaduna. Others have to take a cue from him.

After VAT, some other governor should sue for a total resource control and another should go for state police. We need to empty the so-called exclusive list. People who are not intelligent and creative shouldn't have any business with politics. The revolution has already begun.

With this, we'll all see how governors are the real problem we have in Nigeria. Many of them just want the fanfare of the office but nothing on the responsibility of the office. Revenue collection/generation should come with greater responsibility

codemaniacs:



You obviously don't know what VAT is..

If the distributor is not the manufacturer then the distributor is also a consumer who pays VAT when buying the products from the manufacturer.

The distributor ( wholesale consumer ) then sells it to other consumers ( small scale consumers like you and other people ) who will also pay VAT when buying it.

Yes the distributor is a consumer representative who buys onbelf of HIS potential consumers for a commission from the manufacturers for his volume.

The vat paid buy the distributor is only transfered to the consumers. At every level of sale vat is inclusive but the manufacturers remit vat collected to govt.


It's like a relay race. Same baton is passed down not a different one.

Positivepoint:


Value added tax is paid by the consumers of manufactured goods at the point of buying good or service not by the manufacturers of the goods and services.

The population of the north gives north an advantage as huge consumers.

U should first understand what vat is before u make such comment.

Lolz...... Goods and services are not consumed by Populations but by GDPs(the economic purchasing power) of populations. This is why the USA has the largest consumption of any country in the world cos of a larger GDP. This is why a Switzerland with less than 5million persons has a larger consumption than an Ethiopia with over 80million persons.

What is the GDP of the north compared with the south.

NB: Moreover, you are very wrong that manufacturing industries dont pay VAT. They are actually a massive source of VAT as they buy inputs(raw materials, machineries, etc) to run their industries including importing(a huge chuck of total VAT in the country); just that an input-output tax mechanism is used in the final computations.


Geez. I don type long words this early Monday morning. But i did that to disabuse your mind that there is any excuse or "reason" for the sorry state of the north today in Nigeria. The north has basically "destroyed " its future by perpetuating the "feeding bottle" relationship with the south(resource allocation from Abuja, VAT, low university administration cutoff, Quota system etc). It has made the north(a resource rich region) lazy, impudent and totally bereft of ideas on its own future. I type cos i care about the north. And if you are a northerner yourself, the contradiction and shame should force you to want to change the situation.

I am done

I am not against federal government from collecting VAT but the Northern state state who destroy beer and still share from the vat generated from beer should be excluded from sharing in the the VAT generated sales of beer.

Positivepoint:



Yes the distributor is a consumer representative who buys onbelf of HIS potential consumers for a commission from the manufacturers for his volume.

The vat paid buy the distributor is only transfered to the consumers. At every level of sale vat is inclusive but the manufacturers remit vat collected to govt.


It's like a relay race. Same baton is passed down not a different one.

No. This is Wrong..

I'm not responding to comments since you don't know what VAT is and since you're a paid bigot.

nameo:


Lolz...... Goods and services are not consumed by Populations but by GDPs(the economic purchasing power) of populations. This is why the USA has the largest consumption of any country in the world cos of a larger GDP. This is why a Switzerland with less than 5million persons has a larger consumption than an Ethiopia with over 80million persons.

What is the GDP of the north compared with the south.

NB: Moreover, you are very wrong that manufacturing industries dont pay VAT. They are actually a massive source of VAT as they buy inputs(raw materials, machineries, etc) to run their industries including importing(a huge chuck of total VAT in the country); just that an input-output tax mechanism is used in the final computations.


Geez. I don type long words this early Monday morning. But i did that to disabuse your mind that there is any excuse or "reason" for the sorry state of the north today in Nigeria. The north has basically "destroyed " its future by perpetuating the "feeding bottle" relationship with the south(resource allocation from Abuja, VAT, low university administration cutoff, Quota system etc). It has made the north(a resource rich region) lazy, impudent and totally bereft of ideas on its own future. I type cos i care about the north. And if you are a northerner yourself, the contradiction and shame should force you to want to change the situation.

I am done

Manufacturers don't pay vat but collect and remit to govt.

When u buy food at chicken republic the vat u paid on the food item is collected by chicken rebulic and remitt to govt on ur behalf.

tollyboy5:

Very lame excuse, if product like recharge card get multiple tax. Its to the detriment of the state which MTN head quarters is not found.
Let them charge vat on agricultural produce nobody is interested in "brothers keeper nonsense"

Mr man no brother is asking you for a keeper in this case. There is no country in this world that has all her resources evenly distributed across that country.
Do you think Ajaokuta steel company alone is not enough for Kogi State for example? But is it working? Can Kogi State government put it up no matter how sound is the governor?

Let's diversify first and develop each mineral for each state then we disintegrate.

codemaniacs:




You both have no idea.

The street vendors selling recharge cards in your state pay VAT to the distributor of the recharge cards in your state.

You and some other people on this thread are Buuhari media consultants paid to spread mis-information.

It's pointless to keep replying your comments

You have no Idea with your analysis. We are operating cental VAT system and there's something called input and output VAT. Don't mix income tax to VAT.

Safyqueen:


Mr man no brother is asking you for a keeper in this case. There is no country in this world that has all her resources evenly distributed across that country.
Do you think Ajaokuta steel company alone is not enough for Kogi State for example? But is it working? Can Kogi State government put it up no matter how sound is the governor?

Let's diversify first and develop each mineral for each state then we disintegrate.

As a bonafide Lagosian the affairs of kogi has nothing to do with me.
My mayor Care is bt my state and the other 5 southwest state.

Positivepoint:


Manufacturers don't pay vat but collect and remit to govt.

When u buy food at chicken republic the vat u paid on the food item is collected by chicken rebulic and remitt to govt on ur behalf.

Sorry....you are a "mindset" person.

I will pass.

You do not understand how VAT works Bruv. But you think you do. And that is OK. This is not my interest.

By the way, each state in America pay consumption tax(i think it is called Sales tax). We shouldnt be captured by our own "input-output" model to encourage indolence and laziness.

Are you a northerner tho? Are you young? Are you satisfied with the status quo esp as it affects the north? Do you not think that this status quo that your leaders have made you believe isis to your benefit relative to the south have left your region with some of the worst socio-economic indexes in the world comparable to war torn countries (poverty rate, unemployment rate, hunger index, terroism index, No of out of school children, illiteracy rate, incidence of communicable diseases, maternal mortality rate, etc)? Are you happy with these your leaders? Are you happy with the situation

nameo:


Sorry....you are a "mindset" person.

I will pass.

You do not understand how VAT works Bruv. But you think you do. And that is OK. This is not my interest.

By the way, each state in America pay consumption tax(i think it is called Sales tax). We shouldnt be captured by our own "input-output" model to encourage indolence and laziness.

Are you a northerner tho? Are you young? Are you satisfied with the status quo esp as it affects the north? Do you not think that this status quo that your leaders have made you believe isis to your benefit relative to the south have left your region with some of the worst socio-economic indexes in the world comparable to war torn countries (poverty rate, unemployment rate, hunger index, terroism index, No of out of school children, illiteracy rate, incidence of communicable diseases, maternal mortality rate, etc)? Are you happy with these your leaders? Are you happy with the situation

Sales tax was replaced by vat by babangida in 1993.

U re total being ignorantly foolish.

Nasarawa wit one of d highest revenue generating LGA in d country (Karu LGA), is collecting d least VAT allocation, nawao

Positivepoint:


Sales tax was replaced by vat by babangida in 1993.

U re total being ignorantly foolish.

OK... bye

Omoluabi1stborn:


Just imagine! How can you share vat money based on 50% equality while derivation is 20%

Population now 30% reason why the north keeps chucking out large populations after receiving 50% based on equality



The era of monkey they work, baboon dey chop is over.
They should use their population to generate vat

this country has to be restructured!! Gov. Wike is right absolutely