Tdotbluejays:

Deathsantis and the other Texas dumbass are busy doing an excellent job at terminating their own base.

Reducing their voters so Dems win! It must be intentional.

budaatum:


See you deceiving yourself as usual. Is it not the truth that it is Californians, the majority at least, that love their abortions after 6 weeks?

Can't wait for the next election to see who else likes it.

What do you mean by my body my choice when the life of an baby will be taken?

Could you apply the same my body my choice when you have a baby and decided not to feed the baby or take care of the baby? You will be arrested for child abuse or murder. So why can you be allowed to allow someone assassinate your child in the womb? Because my body my choice?

Well when does it apply and when does it not apply?

As a man, will you be arrested if you don't pay child support? Where is my body my choice?

Does the baby have a right to life? If yes why pay a doctor to kill it in the womb?

I said yes the baby have a right to life because people has been thrown in jail for committing double murder after they kill a pregnant woman.

They have given women all the means to avoid this things they refused to use it because they can do abortion. It's wrong.

You go about shaming people who are against the vaxx. Where is my body my choice? All the vaxx passport and crap policy they put is many ways similar to what you are protesting. My body my choice. Your choice are to use various means of birth control, abort pregnancy before the heart beat of the child, you don't have the choice to kill a baby when the heart starts beating. At least they tried.

Kokobilo87:


Ya donkey Goodvibes007 ya addiction to Nairaland isa dope. Ya make ah new one because ya know ya addict so ya junkie try na hide.

Ya cockroach Dapshit ya addiction to Isa Nairaland Isa dope. Ya make 100 monika becos ya addict so ya junkie isa very foolish. Go sniff ya basil boxers

Kokobilo87:


Her body her choice. Shut tha Bleep up. Her mind her thoughts ya keep the same energy ya donkey.

She isa correct. Ya not research but ya follow what ya slaves masters tell ya, she research what ya slave master tell her before her make her decision. She isa smart, ya isa donkey

Ya Isa stinky cockroach with iya tiny brain. Niki Minaj Isa dokta? Ya so dumb cockroach

Enugurangers:

Ya Isa stinky cockroach with iya tiny brain. Niki Minaj Isa dokta? Ya so dumb cockroach

Ya Addicted donkey, ya brada in azzlicking Goodvibes007 isa happy for ya effort.

Ya donkey tha doctors who speak tha chloroquine and tha other ways to treat covid isa silenced. Ya isa sheep donkey

1 dollar is now 565 naira. Buhari is killing it lol.

Enugurangers:

No one give ya time because ya smelly cockroach in ya Akure.

You lie! You are giving it time. And my need to skip junk makes me miss your more intelligent pertinent posts!

Kokobilo87:


Ya Addicted donkey, ya brada in azzlicking Goodvibes007 isa happy for ya effort.

Ya donkey tha doctors who speak tha chloroquine and tha other ways to treat covid isa silenced. Ya isa sheep donkey

Ya cockroach that ejaculate in ya momy bombom. Ya dropout Isa now a dokta. Ya isa stinky smelly cockroach. Where is da otapiapia

budaatum:


You lie! You are giving it time. And my need to skip junk makes me miss your more intelligent pertinent posts!

I will give it time because the mods have refused to reign him in. Call the mods go do their job. Can you?

budaatum:


You lie! You are giving it time. And my need to skip junk makes me miss your more intelligent pertinent posts!

Maybe you are right sir. I will ignore it.

Enugurangers:

Maybe you are right sir. I will ignore it.

Budaatum is right. Even those on the right ignore that POS except for maybe one or two. He would go away for a while when it's bored. Indeed, the mods should have locked up all his many monikas, but I guess they keep him to let the thread increase in pages.

Thanks budaatum and goodvibes. I would ignore as you have advised.

benalvino3:


What do you mean by my body my choice when the life of an baby will be taken?

Could you apply the same my body my choice when you have a baby and decided not to feed the baby or take care of the baby?

See your unreasoning! How is a baby I've had, my body?

Enugurangers:
Thanks budaatum and goodvibes. I would ignore as you have advised.

Your words are more precious than to waste them on it.

Goodvibes007:
1 dollar is now 565 naira. Buhari is killing it lol.

Evangelynn ah message for ya

Enugurangers:

I will give it time because the mods have refused to reign him in. Call the mods go do their job. Can you?

Report the offending post and move on. Mods will react in due time, though I must say I understand why they ignore this thread. It shows up in searches and gets lots of views.

budaatum:


See your unreasoning! How is a baby I've had, my body?

The unreasoning is coming from you or you failed to grasp.

A woman had a baby right? It's her breast, she decides if she wants to feed the baby or not. It's her life, her body and her choice to be the mother of the baby and takes care of the baby.

Why can't she do this? Why will she be arrested if she abandoned the baby? Why will she be arrested if she does not feed the baby?

Where is my body my choice if she gets arrested for not taking care of a baby she does not want to take care of?

She does not want the baby she can kill it because it's in her womb, but once it's out she cant decide not abandon the baby.

Your my body my choice is a contradicting argument.

Goodvibes007:
1 dollar is now 565 naira. Buhari is killing it lol.

Ah reminder for ya donkey

budaatum:


Your words are more precious than to waste them on it.

Tha donkey words isa precious ya ah old fool witha camera ina London. Ya got natting

benalvino3:


What do you mean by my body my choice when the life of an baby will be taken?

Could you apply the same my body my choice when you have a baby and decided not to feed the baby or take care of the baby? You will be arrested for child abuse or murder. So why can you be allowed to allow someone assassinate your child in the womb? Because my body my choice?

Well when does it apply and when does it not apply?

As a man, will you be arrested if you don't pay child support? Where is my body my choice?

Does the baby have a right to life? If yes why pay a doctor to kill it in the womb?

I said yes the baby have a right to life because people has been thrown in jail for committing double murder after they kill a pregnant woman.

They have given women all the means to avoid this things they refused to use it because they can do abortion. It's wrong.

You go about shaming people who are against the vaxx. Where is my body my choice? All the vaxx passport and crap policy they put is many ways similar to what you are protesting. My body my choice. Your choice are to use various means of birth control, abort pregnancy before the heart beat of the child, you don't have the choice to kill a baby when the heart starts beating. At least they tried.

You keep conflating issues in order to employ emotional blackmail by equating abortion to murder. Even in Texas which has enacted the strictest laws on abortion, abortion was not put on the same pedestal with murder.

A baby (or a person) can be murdered, a fetus is aborted. A fetus is not a legal person, it acquires the status of a legal person the minutes it leaves its mothers womb and is capable of independent existence.

The choice of carrying a fetus in the womb is the mother's to make. Except there is a procedure to sustain the fetus outside the woman's body immediately after a sperm fertilize an egg, then you will have a point in insisting a fertilized egg must lead to a baby irrespective of the views of the woman.

The double murder example is a red herring. No woman or doctor had ever been charged for murdering a fetus. The double murder was because a woman carrying a baby (fetus) was murdered.

The law you are referring to is Unborn Victims of Violence Act. Here is the Wikipedia link for the law.

However, 38 states also recognize the fetus or "unborn child" as a crime victim, at least for purposes of homicide or feticide.[2]

The legislation was both hailed and vilified by various legal observers who interpreted the measure as a step toward granting legal personhood to human fetuses, even though the bill explicitly contained a provision excepting abortion, stating that the bill would not "be construed to permit the prosecution" "of any person for conduct relating to an abortion for which the consent of the pregnant woman, or a person authorized by law to act on her behalf", "of any person for any medical treatment of the pregnant woman or her unborn child" or "of any woman with respect to her unborn child."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Victims_of_Violence_Act

The law specifically excludes abortion. The law even recognizes the rights of a woman to her body, which people like you fail to acknowledge.

benalvino3:


The unreasoning is coming from you or you failed to grasp.

A woman had a baby right? It's her breast, she decides if she wants to feed the baby or not. It's her life, her body and her choice to be the mother of the baby and takes care of the baby.

Why can't she do this?

Because she had a baby, doh, and the baby has a body of its own so isn't "my body" anymore.

You do know that if one starves one's baby to death one would be done for murder?

I guess you are trying to apply the same rule to my foetus. Are you aware at all that most abortions are funded by men?

budaatum:


Because she had a baby, doh, and the baby has a body of its own so isn't "my body" anymore.

You do know that if one starves one's baby to death one would be done for murder?

I guess you are trying to apply the same rule to my foetus. Are you aware at all that most abortions are funded by men?

You are still not grasping. I know she had the baby, but it's still the same baby that was in her uterus.

Now the baby is out, does she have the right to not care for the baby? It's her body, her breast, and her mind. She can't decide not to take care of the baby if we go by MY BODY MY CHOICE.

are you not seeing the fallacy here?

Can you take cocain or illegal drugs? Why not? It's your body your choice right?

I am sure you are not in support of people who takes illegal drugs.

My BODY MY CHOICE IS NOT AN ARGUMENT TO KILL A BABY. ANOTHER BODY IS INVOLVED AND A LIFE IS LOST.

wirinet:


You keep conflating issues in order to employ emotional blackmail by equating abortion to murder. Even in Texas which has enacted the strictest laws on abortion, abortion was not put on the same pedestal with murder.

A baby (or a person) can be murdered, a fetus is aborted. A fetus is not a legal person, it acquires the status of a legal person the minutes it leaves its mothers womb and is capable of independent existence.

The choice of carrying a fetus in the womb is the mother's to make. Except there is a procedure to sustain the fetus outside the woman's body immediately after a sperm fertilize an egg, then you will have a point in insisting a fertilized egg must lead to a baby irrespective of the views of the woman.

The double murder example is a red herring. No woman or doctor had ever been charged for murdering a fetus. The double murder was because a woman carrying a baby (fetus) was murdered.

The law you are referring to is Unborn Victims of Violence Act. Here is the Wikipedia link for the law.


The law specifically excludes abortion. The law even recognizes the rights of a woman to her body, which people like you fail to acknowledge.

And the law has changed and you people are crying. This is the hypocrisy that you guys like to radiate. There is no nonsense from the left you guys don't support.

I asked you a question, if you are a parent, how many children do you have? 3, 4? Is that all the time you have had sex with your wife? If your answer is no, how many times have you guys done abortion? Also, do you take birth control measures to make sure you don't commit abortion at least 12 times a year?

It is common sense o. There are a lot of ways to prevent unwanted pregnancy, why do you people choose the most dangerous pattern which involved killing another human? Why not just take the birth control provided for free. You can choose the one you prefer, enough options.

Abortion is murder. Have you seen abortions where they then sell the head, legs and body of the mutilated baby? How is that not murder?

You conveniently talk about law, but law saying you cannot kill a baby in uterus that has heart beat is what you have been crying about for long now.

wirinet:


You keep conflating issues in order to employ emotional blackmail by equating abortion to murder. Even in Texas which has enacted the strictest laws on abortion, abortion was not put on the same pedestal with murder.

A baby (or a person) can be murdered, a fetus is aborted. A fetus is not a legal person, it acquires the status of a legal person the minutes it leaves its mothers womb and is capable of independent existence.

The choice of carrying a fetus in the womb is the mother's to make. Except there is a procedure to sustain the fetus outside the woman's body immediately after a sperm fertilize an egg, then you will have a point in insisting a fertilized egg must lead to a baby irrespective of the views of the woman.

The double murder example is a red herring. No woman or doctor had ever been charged for murdering a fetus. The double murder was because a woman carrying a baby (fetus) was murdered.

The law you are referring to is Unborn Victims of Violence Act. Here is the Wikipedia link for the law.


The law specifically excludes abortion. The law even recognizes the rights of a woman to her body, which people like you fail to acknowledge.

This photo below is a fetus, guys forgive the graphic nature of the image, but some people lack morality or are inhumane

wirinet:


You keep conflating issues in order to employ emotional blackmail by equating abortion to murder. Even in Texas which has enacted the strictest laws on abortion, abortion was not put on the same pedestal with murder.

A baby (or a person) can be murdered, a fetus is aborted. A fetus is not a legal person, it acquires the status of a legal person the minutes it leaves its mothers womb and is capable of independent existence.
acknowledge.

If a fetus is not a legal person and legal status starts when the baby leaves the mothers womb,

Why charge people for killing unborn child?

For a baby, you cant excuse the man while putting all the blame on the woman since the woman cant make the baby alone. Has anyone considered male vasectomy? Nigerian men especially. There is really no nice contraceptive for either men or women. Is it pills, copper T or the hormonal one. They all have side effects. Condoms are the safest option that is not invasive.

Gory pictures on the thread below too:

https://www.nairaland.com/5997692/dead-babies-found-refuse-dump (twins)

https://www.nairaland.com/3768343/baby-dumped-inside-refuse-sack

https://www.nairaland.com/6349588/newborn-baby-found-refuse-dump

https://www.nairaland.com/6280003/day-old-baby-found-dead-refuse (Port Harcout)

e.t.c.

Enugurangers:
for a baby, you cant excuse the man while putting all the blame on the woman. Has anyone considered vasectomy. There is really no nice contraceptive. Is it pills, copper T or the homornal one. They all have side effects. Condoms are the safest option that is not invasive.

Gory pictures on the thread below too:

https://www.nairaland.com/5997692/dead-babies-found-refuse-dump

Some women go to clubs man, they take strangers home and sleep with them. Some don't know who the father of their child is and many men are paying child support for a baby that does not belong to them because the woman thinks they are the father. The men can't even say no once their name is on the birth certificate. A woman who does not want a baby should not be sleeping with men unprotected. She should take birth control so she does not use abortion as birth control. She is the one who get pregnant not the men and she is the one more responsible that she does not get pregnant. This na common sense na.

There are contraceptives you can put once and forget about getting pregnant till you are ready.

Even here in Nigeria they exist for free. Please research.

benalvino3:


Some women go to clubs man, they take strangers home and sleep with them. Some don't know who the father of their child is and many men are paying child support for a baby that does not belong to them because the woman thinks they are the father. The men can't even say no once their name is on the birth certificate. A woman who does not want a baby should not be sleeping with men unprotected. She should take birth control so she does not use abortion as birth control. She is the one who get pregnant not the men and she is the one more responsible that she does not get pregnant. This na common sense na

Instead of spreading STDs and other sexual diseases, the men should keep their penis in their pants too. Some of these men have wives at home. common sense. A man should not sleep with a woman he is not ready to take care of when it leads to pregnancy. When that reduces baby getting dumped in refuse sites all over Nigeria will reduce too. Another common sense.

benalvino3:

There are contraceptives you can put once and forget about getting pregnant till you are ready.
Even here in Nigeria they exist for free. Please research.

Those pills and inserts have side effects too. Men can consider vasectomy too which is reversible. Any man not ready to pour their curse akamu when they are not ready can consider that too.

My point is that you cant completely blame the woman for dumping babies or aborting when she did not create the baby all by herself. sperm plus eggs make babies. It takes two to tango.

Enugurangers:

Instead of spreading STDs and other sexual diseases, the men should keep their penis in their pants too. Some of these men have wives at home. common sense. A man should not sleep with a woman he is not ready to take care of when it leads to pregnancy. When that reduces baby getting dumped in refuse sites all over Nigeria will reduce too. Another common sense.

We are not talking about STDs. Women can have sex with 200 men a day if they want but a man cannot have sex 15 times a day if he wants. Am not talking about with prostitutes, I am talking about consented sex with no money involved.

You keep saying men should keep their dick in their pants, most times it's the women who consent to sex or who decides who have sex with them.

They have wives at home is irrelevant. Some women want the men who has wife because that way they can keep their boyfriend who is not financially established while they buy their iPhones from married men.

Enugurangers:

Those pills and inserts have side effects too. Men can consider vasectomy too which is reversible. Any man not ready to pour their curse akamu when they are not ready can consider that too.

My point is that you cant completely blame the woman for dumping babies or aborting when she did not create the baby all by herself. sperm plus eggs make babies. It takes two to tango.

You see a doctor, he will present you with options and safest one with no side effects.

For a married couple, the husband can do whatever he can not to get his wife pregnant but in the world of fun, women go to clubs for a one night stand. They sleep with strangers. What's hard for you to understand?

Wirinet, tell me he committed abortion and not murder.

Mother of the unborn child survived but the unborn did not. You are here posting excuses and dehumanizing arguments or excuse to kill a baby.

When a woman wants to kill a baby in her womb it's abortion when another person does the same thing it's murder.



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