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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:08pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
budaatum: According to you this is not a baby. Oga go sit for gutter
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:13pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
benalvino3: You are showing how ignorant you are in thinking the majority of the aborted get to that stage. Go on, post how many weeks old that is! 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 4:13pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
benalvino3:Stop the emotional outburst and show us the murder charge. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:14pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
budaatum: Even if it's one abortion it's abortion. You are just making childish arguments. Is this an abortion or murder since you said majority don't get to the stage as an argument |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 4:15pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
benalvino3:That's the law you and the serenios you are referring us to. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 4:17pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
benalvino3: You are slowly getting it - woman's rights to her body. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:17pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
wirinet: Nothing emotional. You try to claim the video I presented a lie. Again, he committed murder or abortion? Instead of you to answer the question I asked you you are talking about emotional outburst. You cant answer it abi? You are trying to argue he did not kill the unborn child at the same time you did not say he committed abortion. If he didn't kill that child why was he charged for it? Because they did not use the word Murder? |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:20pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
wirinet: Lmao. No, you are getting cornered. Murder is murder, abortion should be abortion. A woman cannot say kill the baby in my womb and it's called abortion and at the same time it's murder when another person does it without her concent |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:21pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
benalvino3: It is an abortion ben if it is in a woman's body and she decides to remove it according to the law. If it isn't legal she'd be in jail. Know any woman in jail for aborting, ben? 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:25pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
benalvino3: This is like claiming if you killed yourself you've committed murder and not suicide. A woman does not say "kill the baby in my womb" ben! Spend time with women to hear how they speak. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:26pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
budaatum: She should remove the human without killing it. She is a mother for crying out loud and as a murder she is not allowed to abuse her child in her womb or outside her womb. Explain the photo below. A pregnant woman was charged for for manslaughter after another woman shoots her in the stomach. No abortion?
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 4:27pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
benalvino3: Almost drowning as the straws you are clutching is getting smaller. Show me a murder conviction for killing an unborn baby. I not talking about press interpretations. I mean an actual murder conviction for a baby solely based on an aborted baby without the mother being the subject of the case. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:30pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
budaatum: Shameful. Shows you don't understand anything. Murder is the unlawful killing of another human without justification or valid excuse, especially the unlawful killing of another human with malice aforethought. suicide the action of killing oneself intentionally. So this baby was not killed?
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:32pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
Ben. You are a waste of time! budaatum: 2 Likes
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:34pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
benalvino3: Now do the same for abortion ben. Show us you unreason! 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:35pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
wirinet: I just showed you the grand jury decision and you are still arguing. Are you serious? Can you argue with the second photo too?
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:37pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
benalvino3: Hear yourself. She's not a woman or a human being, "She is a mother". 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:41pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 4:48pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
budaatum: Don't mind him, always using strawman's argument. 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:59pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
budaatum: And now they face problems because they want laws to accommodate abortion and they have to dehumanize the child to do that. A shame. But again, prison time the same with murder charge.
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by armyofone(m): 5:03pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
benalvino3: 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 5:07pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
armyofone: For a woman to have sex with men, she just have to ask do you want to have sex to them. Many will say yes because most time women are the ones who consent to sex. For a guy to ask women, it will be hard because him that is asking still has to wait for yes. You will find more men who are starve of sex in the streets or clubs than women. I hope you get my point. In short, I am saying women can easily have sex if they want to compared to men. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 5:09pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
benalvino3: The below is precisely why Kevin Wilson was jailed for the same length he would have for murder!
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 5:15pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
This might educate you why some abort ben, though I wouldn't hold my breath. I received it by email. POLITICO illustration/Photos by AP and courtesy of Josina MoriaWhen Josina Morita became pregnant with her first child four years ago, she talked to human resources folks at the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District of Greater Chicago for what she thought would be a three-minute discussion. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 5:18pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
budaatum: The lawyer for a teenager who repeatedly punched his pregnant girlfriend in the stomach has told Newsbeat it's too hard to convict people of harming unborn children. Dusan Bako, 18, from Oldham, has been sentenced to four years and eight months in a young offenders institute after admitting GBH. He assaulted her last August. The 16-year-old was seven months pregnant. She lost her baby but a charge of child destruction was dropped. Bako, who wants to be rapper, had become angry because her phone was switched off. His defence lawyer, Alison Mafham, can't talk specifically about her client's case but told Newsbeat she believes there is a loophole in the law. Why it's not murder to kill an unborn child "Whatever moral standpoint you take, in the eyes of the law an unborn child is not a person, so you can't be charged with murdering an unborn child and you can't be charged with assaulting an unborn child," Alison explains. A law of child destruction applies to the deaths of some unborn babies, though, and carries a life sentence. Legal abortion is an exception. But only 16 people have been found guilty of child destruction in 11 years in England and Wales, despite Alison claiming to see more and more attacks on pregnant women. "The prosecution has to prove not only have you killed a child, capable of being born alive, but you intended to kill it - so you wanted that unborn child dead - and that's quite a hard thing to prove," she says. If an attacker's intention was to harm an unborn baby rather than kill it, or if they wanted to hurt or kill its mother, the law doesn't recognise any offence against the unborn child. Prosecutors may find it easier to charge defendants with offences against the mother. Alison, from Richard Silver solicitors, believes the law is outdated. It was set up in 1929 to deal with backstreet abortions. But she thinks a new law could be brought in to convict people who "recklessly" kill an unborn baby, an offence similar to manslaughter. "That would mean if you punch a pregnant woman in the stomach and the unborn child dies, there may still be an offence [against the unborn baby] even if you didn't mean to kill the child." Additionally, the law of child destruction only applies when the baby could have survived outside the womb at that point. That's generally seen as 28 weeks into pregnancy. Last year, 18-year-old Aston Robinson was cleared of child destruction after murdering his girlfriend, Kayleigh-Anne Palmer. She had been pregnant for 24 weeks. In 2009, 24-year-old Richard Brown was jailed for causing the deaths of three passengers while drink and drug driving. 18-year-old Becky Lee was 14 weeks pregnant at the time but no charge was brought for child destruction. See laws. People are confident to kill their unborn child. Wow The law is the law. You people will talk about law only when it benefits you. Texas law is more lenient than UK law but budaatum does not talk about that. The law is the law. To me I have showed you guys a photo of the head of a baby. Call it fetus or abortion all you want but that's murder. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 5:37pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
You got to laugh at his or her irresponsibility The original case was brought by Keira Bell, who says the clinic should have challenged her more over transitioning. 1 Like
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 5:44pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
benalvino3: The prosecutor lacked competence and should seek counsel from the prosecutor who successfully charged and convicted Kevin Wilson in the same courts. Meanwhile, in the news today, ironically. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/sep/17/watchdog-finds-staggering-variation-in-police-use-of-clares-law 2 Likes
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Evangelynn(f): 5:47pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
wirinet:You guys can ask Ben if census is done on a foetus,since it is a human being and has human rights(he may not even know the definition of a human being) let's see how smart he is. People like him failed biology and don't know simple basic sciences. BeN doesn't know that spermatozoa is a living thing that can die I am sure since sperm has a life men shouldn't be wasting it (being sarcastic). People like him doesn't know that not all pregnancies will live through nine months and that miscarriage is a natural abortion. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by armyofone(m): 5:49pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
budaatum: I'm a doctor - you are bringing me money by wanting my service and still feel I should challenge you not to ? S/he can switch back. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Evangelynn(f): 5:52pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
Abortion isn't a must and it is not by force so I don't get this unnecessary attention it gets. Same people against social welfare that will benefit children are against abortion but after the child is born that child is on its own and if government wants to help they will be screaming socialism Lol a lot of kids born into poverty wish they weren't even born to begin with but you see people crying for the foetus unconcerned about the less privilege kids in the streets and orphanages,you lots should pick a struggle. And let women breath. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Evangelynn(f): 5:55pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
Many pro-life crusaders don't really care about the foetus they just care about controling women while absorbing men of blame. If truly they cared about women they would make laws and put things in place to make life better for the children,their parents and holding men accountable too. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Enugurangers: 6:04pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
Evangelynn:I wont be surprised if he doesn't know. On this same thread, He did not know that Americans call "cheque" check. He doesn't know the Ozone layer exists (he even argued with disstroy on this one). He showed lack of understanding a basic CC statement. He thinks contraceptives are 100% foolproof from pregnancy. (even a condom can break) he thinks contraceptives' do not have side effects But he would argue all day thinking he is right. He has argued with everyone on this thread on various topics except for maybe Basil. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
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