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Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by Raustin(m): 6:27pm On Sep 29, 2021 |
Do you know a spirit can cohabit in you? Yes. I once shared your disbelief too until I had a personal encounter with a victim. A lady. Pretty, down to earth. Someone you would want to have a conversation or two with. We've been sharing same office space for months until one day. It was a normal day, I had gone out to get call card and slid behind my desk to continue my work. Sure I was working on a report. Few minutes into that period, I saw her stood from her seat and walked straight towards the corridor. What caught my attention was the manner in which she stood. I followed within a considerable distance. She seems to be under the influence of something I couldn't place as at then. I saw her walked towards the office of the Commander and when she was stopped, it was a hell of drama. She seized the PA by the collar and almost choked him. The PA, a well built man was no match for this lady. She seems to have possessed the power of ten. Her eye balls increased, the shape of a small sized egg, slightly red too. In less than two minutes, guys within the complex had quickly mobilized to free the PA from the grip of this lady. The Commander heard the noise and came out too. It took 5 hefty men to subdue this lady. She later regained consciousness and quietly went back to her corner. It was like nothing happened. We were asked not to talk to get about it. She was advised to go for "home treatment" as medical treatment won't be an option. But in the midst of all of these, I was still so much inquisitive as to the reason for this kind of thing. At that period, she had this guy as her boyfriend. Let's call him Raph. I was in the office when I got a gist that Raph has been hospitalized. The story behind his admission looks sketchy though. Heard he was gbenshing (you should be used to this word already�) and a force picked him from the lady and hit him hard on the floor. He was hit severally until a next door neighbor came in. My inquisitive mind led me to the medical center where I met Raph. He had his head rolled up in bandage, lips swollen. As paddy na. He told me everything that happened and it tallied with what I heard. Seeing him as a huge guy... "why you no drag with the person na" He took a long look at me "haba Kola, drag with person wey I no see? E just be like say na 20 people hol me tight use me dey stone ground.." He sighs "na God save me o.." Wishing him all the best, I left him with a promise to check him sometimes later. I spoke with an elderly man, way older than me and I narrated this to him. He looked at me, shook his head. "Aljani" he started. He went further to explain to me, that Aljani can possess a lady through her hair if left uncovered, due to her exposive dress style and several means. That the Aljani stays as long as possible and it is the origin of the so called "spiritual husband." I thanked him and left. I felt a sharp pain right on my temple. Life. There are several things that are mysterious to the human mind to accept. I couldn't just wrap my head around that happening. My thought drifted back to Raph. Bro swore never to go back to that lady. So many things around us. Many things that beats our explanation. Kolawole Oludare Stephen
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Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by illicit(m): 6:37pm On Sep 29, 2021 |
Yes nah Any time I shayo, the spirit inhabits me 1 Like |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by Kobojunkie: 7:32pm On Sep 29, 2021 |
Raustin:You be aspiring writer or what? |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by MufasaLion: 10:29pm On Sep 29, 2021 |
Lies Lies Lies. |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by Ola17: 6:05am On Sep 30, 2021 |
MufasaLion: And more lies lies lies. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by triplechoice(m): 11:43am On Sep 30, 2021 |
A lot of young ladies go about with their hair uncovered and body parts exposed due to scanty dressing. If it were true they can be possessed by that, then we would have been seeing lots of them displaying the same sort of behavior as the lady in the op. The concept of spirit wife and spirit husband is gotten from traditional African religion. It is a false belief which our primitive forbears used in the past as explanation for certain strange phenomenon they could not explain. The whites dont have this sort of experience (spirit husband or wife) simply because it was never part of anything that they believed in the past or even now. The human mind is extremely powerful. It is capable of creating effect from whatever it is made to accept as truth. Most people are ignorant of this fact ,hence , they are easily taking advantage of. The sad thing is that some ignorant people posing as men of God, in this part of the world, are still promoting the false idea of spirit husband or wife and conducting fake deliverance sessions which does not work. This fake deliverance has left most of these desperate ladies seeking for husbands disconsolate and depressed because after everything they were made to go through during such sessions and the money taken away from them in the form of sowing dangerous seed to God, nothing has changed. And another unfortunate thing, is that after a time, due to the fact that they have completely accepted this lie, some of them start acting irrationally because they are now certain that they are possessed by a demon which is simply not true. The lady in the op, I believe, is a victim of this. She may have been exposed to this idea either in the church or from people around her and the result is what is described. Pastors who use this to scam their members , begin by preaching on the pulpit that any lady who is finding it difficult to get married has a spirit husband . Some of them even go to the extent of conducting fake deliverance session to cast out imaginary spirit husband right in front of their congregation and sadly enough, sometimes kids or very young persons of impressionable age are also part of those watching. Then the members , after watching the fake deliverance nonsense, go home beleiving that there is something like spirit husband or spirit wife or that people can easily be possessed by demons. And later , when some of the ladies or young persons who have been indoctrinated by the fake display find it difficult to get married or are having other strange experiences they can't understand and explain , which may be normal, they wrongly think it is caused by spirit husband or a demon. The immediate reaction is to run with fear in their hearts back to the same person who has indoctrinated them with this false idea in order to get delivered . But after deliverance ,nothing changes because it is a scam.There's no invisible man stopping them from getting married. The concept of spirit husband is not in the Bible or part of Christianity and so why are Christians made to believe in something that is not true? Christians are not the only ones in this part to believe this. Everyone else seems to and it is for this reason most find it difficult to shake themselves of it. The solution is to know that there's nothing like spirit husband or wife preventing you from getting married and also to avoid persons who believe in it or places where such nonsense is believed or preached, if not, one can be dragged into it unconsciously and you start having strange experiences which would then make you think it is real. 2 Likes |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by TenQ: 1:38pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
triplechoice:You speak like you've explored ALL there is and find out spirit beings don't exist. A spirit spouse is simply one who has a possessive claim to a person especially if the demon has an opposite gender. The nomenclature is NOT as important. Demons don't just jump into people Demons operate best in a covert state The degree of possessiveness of demons and their strength in a person vary wildly Demonic infection exists in EVERY culture and tribe in the world. Horror movies is the WORST depiction of demonization of a person 1 Like |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by triplechoice(m): 3:11pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
TenQ: I never said spirit beings don't exist. I only said the concept of spirit husband is a lie. As for your other comments, this is what I have to tell you, make sure you know exactly what your talking about and not just what you read somewhere , watch in movies and from hearsay. Demons don't possess people. What you think is demon possession is caused by something you're unaware of. Pentecostal churches are the ones promoting these nonsense. The Catholic church has abandoned such practices of exorcism because they now know better. If any catholic member , not those in the charismatic movement , approaches a priest who is welll informed, for deliverance, the person would be advise to go for mental evaluation in a psychiatric hospital before anything. Most people who take this advise never return because they get to know after a session with a mental health practitioner that their problem is not caused by demons but is simply psychological. But some people don't want to be caught visiting a psychiatric hospital and so they run to your Pentecostal churches for deliverance which doesn't stop whatever they are experiencing I know of some persons who for years have been running from church to church looking for the most powerful man of god to deliver them but without any success. You can argue all you like but I just hope one day you come a cross a former deliverance minister in some of these Churches to let you know why he or she has abandoned what they were doing before.. Then you will get to know the truth 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by TenQ: 3:25pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
triplechoice:I honestly wish you had your own FIRST_HAND experience rather than speaking like you used to be a deliverance minister. Since you know that spirits exist: What is your impression about these scriptures Lk11:14-15 14 Jesus was driving out a demon that was mute. When the demon left, the man who had been mute spoke, and the crowd was amazed. 15 But some of them said, “By Beelzebul, the prince of demons, he is driving out demons.” Lk11:24-16 24 “When an impure spirit comes out of a person, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ 25 When it arrives, it finds the house swept clean and put in order. 26 Then it goes and takes seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that person is worse than the first.” Mark5:6-10 6 When he saw Jesus from a distance, he ran and fell on his knees in front of him. 7 He shouted at the top of his voice, “What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? In God’s name don’t torture me!” 8 For Jesus had said to him, “Come out of this man, you impure spirit!” 9 Then Jesus asked him, “What is your name?” “My name is Legion,” he replied, “for we are many.” 10 And he begged Jesus again and again not to send them out of the area. Figments of imaginations? |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by triplechoice(m): 4:13pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
TenQ: How do you know what I have experienced? And how does the above scripture explain spirit husband? You just confirmed what I said before now. Did you take time to read my first response to the op? It's obvious you did not. Please, believe all you want . I am not interested in dragging this matter further with you. The day you meet with those who have abandoned what you're currently doing , then you will know the truth and do the same except the fake deliverance is your only source of income. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by TenQ: 4:19pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
triplechoice:Have you ever cast out a demon from anyone? *Trust me, every true Christian can do so. Why don't you have your own experience: then you will be eminently qualified to make a distinction between spirits. But for now, you speak only hear-say as if it is the TRUTH! Shalom |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by triplechoice(m): 6:09pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
TenQ: I ask you again, how do you know I have not done more than what you think you're currently doing ? So you don't know that there former Christians out there who have abandoned the nonsense you're currently doing ? This is the Internet. Do a search and come back and tell me your findings. I hope your world don't come crashing down when you read their stories. The scripture you quoted ,I know is the foundation for your belief. Permit me to address it now. The Bible contains , if you don't know , things that people believed in the past which were not true. For instance, people during the bible times believed in a flat earth and also that the sun moves around to cause night and day. It was for this reason "scientist" of those times created the story of Joshua to make people accept as fact what they knew about the earth as at that time. Just like the Joshua example , there was also a time people believed that demons inhabit people and to make this idea find acceptance in the minds of people, the story of Jesus casting out demons was invented. There lots of instance in the bible which I can reference to make you understand and know more about what I just explained. But the two is enough for now. Now the question is , what causes what you're doing to appear real to you? (The casting of demons.) The answer is ,your mind is creating the illusion. The human mind has the capacity to create effect from whatever it accept as truth. If it is made to accept a lie as truth, it will create effect from it. When you don't know how the human mind works, what I have been explaining won't make any sense to you. So get yourself informed I hope one day, you find out the truth yourself and stop abusing the minds of others in the name of delivering them from demons that , sorry to say, only exist in your head and in the heads of those you have infected with the false belief. Final question, Have you ever commanded a demon to come out of non Christian who does not believe in the demon possession? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by TenQ: 6:42pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
triplechoice:I still wish you had your own experience rather than rely on the experience of others. Let's assume that (for the sake of argument) 1. 50% of Deliverance ministers believe in casting out demons 2. 50% of former Deliverance ministers have explained the phenomenon away as a psychological phenomenon (Even though, I will say that 80% of deliverance ministers believe they deal with ACTUAL demons.) Who should you believe? My argument is : Until you have your own experience, it is useless using the report of others (especially minority reports) as evidence of truth. |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by TenQ: 7:14pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
triplechoice:Yes! She was a Muslim. It was in my office. She manifested violently and vomited on the office floor. She was sitted right across my table. I didn't touch her for fear of someone twisting the story to mean sexual harassment. She came back two weeks after. The factors responsible for her not able to graduate solved. She came looking for me after her graduation. |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by triplechoice(m): 7:16pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
TenQ: I have had my own experience which you don't know , if not ,I won't discuss the matter. The only reason I am referring you to others, is for you to know I am not the only one . Go first and understand how your mind works so you understand all I have been saying. You have not responded to any explanation I have given concerning how your mind can trick you to think you're casting out demons which shows everything I have said is lost on you. Modified. Everyone believing in something doesn't make it true so your percentages are irrelevant |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by TenQ: 7:20pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
triplechoice:Let's assume my mind tricks me into believing that I am casting out demons, is the mind of the demonized ALSO tricking him? Does the mind of the demonized make them cook up fantastic stories about their lives and speak in third person to themselves? |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by Ayo081(m): 7:40pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
Believe it or not. This shit happens. You don't believe? Go on Reddit and search for the demons channel. People summon this things. Stay close to God and your bible (have it around where you sleep). |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by triplechoice(m): 8:01pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
TenQ: I already explained the above when I said the mind will create effect from whatever it accepts as truth.. The human mind is extremely powerful. The mind functions in two modes, the conscious and the unconscious. The later is responsible for most of your unconscious habits and other things you cannot even fathom.. The day you realise the truth of how your mind truly works is the day you begin to ensure no nonsense enters it and remain.. This the reason I said you're abusing the minds of the people you claim to be delivering. The people you "deliver " are already preprogrammed to react that way . And it begins from the impression and believes projected into their minds from people around them. Once they accept , at the unconscious level, all of this impression coming into their minds they automatically become susceptible to any command from you to make them start misbehaving and acting as if possessded by demons. That's how it works.. Those who reject or dont accept those impressions coming into their minds will not react . I am sure there are times you must have encountered those who don't respond as you expect no matter what you do There are valid resources on the net to help you know more. You can search for them. Or you begin from former deliverance minister near you to ask them questions why they stopped so you can have a balanced perspective on things. As it is now ,you only know one side of the story and that's what you're holding on to. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by triplechoice(m): 8:03pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
Ayo081: Your latest comment shows fear. Fear is the meat of "demon" possession 1 Like |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by TenQ: 8:40pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
triplechoice:A mind has to be programmed to generate information: I agree. But you asked me a question "if I have casted out a demon from a non christian" Thius answers your question. |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by triplechoice(m): 9:00pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
TenQ: What do you understand about how minds are preprogrammed. You think it is something that happens only consciously. If you're not a Christian, and you live amongst Christians your mind can be preprogrammed to start accepting Christianity. It doesn't have to happen consciously by someone preaching to you. If you have delivered a non Christian, was it a random stranger who did not first agree to deliverance and submitted to you? You still don't get me. Please let's end this . I am t not rying to force you to accept anything. I am only responding to your comment as they come. Your experience is the only thing that can convince you. But that would be when you know what to look out for. You can't know the truth about anything by focusing on one aspect of it. Goodnight 2 Likes |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by LordReed(m): 9:11pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
Raustin: While in general the world is still relatively ignorant about mental health, in our neck of the woods we are in the dark ages. This lady probably has psychotic episodes and would probably benefit from having treatment, instead she will be subject to vain superstitions of spirits and what not. She probably won't get better but instead be carried from one prayer house to another. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by sonmvayina(m): 9:11pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
I used to have a spirit wife before I got married to my wife. Sex with her was clean. I had to appease her to allow me enjoy my life on this realm. But she was always protecting me, I loved her for that. When I was in the UK, I met this pretty babe from Trinidad and Tobago on match.com. after enough chatting she came to my house for some lashing. When my spirit wife saw her she said I shouldn't, I was head strong because I have wasted time and wifi on chatting and telling her all the positions we will do. Long story short, after like 2 hours of pre-intimacy "oga jimmy" no raise oh. I try try...nothing. she got angry and left. I had to beg her and called cab to take her from Neasden to Hounslow. Like two weeks later I managed to get her on the phone, but the voice was not hers. It was her elder sister. She told me she was in hospital. She was HIV positive, and has become full blown AIDS. I kneel down thank Sophia. My spirit wife.. It also happened with another uhrobo girl from Delta state. But she did not have Hiv, my dick no still stand, I guess she did not want it to happen.. We are spiritual beings having a human experience, when we expire here we go back to the spiritual realm. (The real life) |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by LordReed(m): 9:19pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
TenQ: Yes. I have undergone what I tricked myself into calling deliverance. I read a horror novel were the antagonist was possessed by spirits and began to do strange things, I was a kid then and very susceptible so when I was told that reading such novels would cause me to be possessed I began to feel like I was indeed possessed. Of course it was all my imagination to the extent that when I was being prayed for I acted out the possession even when I clearly knew I was acting but I had tricked myself into accepting that this was how it was supposed to happen. LoL gosh when I remember those days I feel like slapping my younger self. |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by TenQ: 9:20pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
triplechoice:The mind can only be programmed by information.. Like, you have also been programmed by the minority report from some former christians who claimed they used to perform deliverance. For the girl in my office. 1. I told her I would pray for her BUT I didn't tell her I would be casting out demons 2. I didn't even know for sure there were demons inside her till she started manifesting 3. How could I have conditioned her to react like demonized persons would? It is difficult to convince a person who have a spirit wife that it is just a figment of his imaginations. Their dreams are usually vivid and sometimes they encounter physically their spirit spouse |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by Ayo081(m): 10:10pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
triplechoice: Fear? There's a difference between being spiritually opened (eyes or senses) and spiritually blind or afraid. |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by triplechoice(m): 10:35pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
TenQ: I never wanted to respond again, but just have to . I already advised you get yourself properly informed about how your mind works so you can understand my position better Your mind cannot act on any impression that it refuses to accept as truth. I have been repeating this all along. It is only individuals whose critical faculty skills not fully developed and are cast in the coinage of conspiracy theories that easily swallow the lies of demonic possession Now , according to you, my current stand is because I have been made not to accept what you consider as truth of demonic possession inspite of the fact I already suggested to your that I use to have such belief in the past but now know better through my own experience. Really don't know what to tell you. You not following at all. Don't bother much about me be concern with what you're doing. If it is the right thing you're doing only time will tell. To your last statement ,the reason it is difficult to convince someone who thinks she is having spirit husband is because they accept as real what they see in the dream and also while awake . But those visions are not real or have no basis in reality. I know how difficult it is to convince such people. I have been there before and came out of it. So I am speaking from experience. You people lack the proper guidance to do what you're doing. You're destroying minds and think you're helping them through deliverance. You can't end spirit wife through deliverance. The only way is to increase your awareness so you know the truth and the truth leads to your freedom Good luck in your casting of demons business |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by triplechoice(m): 10:40pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
Ayo081: When you put Bible under your pillows so you sleep well shows fear. If you're were opened eyes spiritually as you say , you would know that doesn't help in anyway. It is just superstition and nothing more.. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by TenQ: 11:08pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
LordReed:If you knew you were ACTING, too bad. Majority of those who manifest cannot even recall what happened as they were manifesting (depending on the depth of their demonisation). Many times, they would even deny that they said some crazy things unless you happened to record it. A student of my (a boy) was like that (then a very unserious hard-boy). I wasn't the one who prayed for him but he manifested so badly that I recorded it on my phone. You need to see his face in my office the second day while he watched himself performing and spewing out crazy things. Deliverance isn't the solution to ALL problems, however,I think I have seen enough to see the various shades, depth, scope of demonization in which it can affect the demonized. Most people have some form of mild demonization...like a skin disease called Eczema: it doesn't disturb too much but it also doesn't mean it is not present. BTW: -Deliverance many times occur without any apparent physical manifestations -Deliverance many time is NOT complete. Half deliverance always produce temporary relief |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by Ayo081(m): 11:12pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
triplechoice: Lol I never mentioned under your pillow I think. I said near you. It worked for me and I believe. |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by TenQ: 11:27pm On Sep 30, 2021 |
triplechoice:You speak like spirit wife/husband is the main type of demonization: this is not true! Not all problems are of direct demon origin. How do you convince a person who was delivered from demonic affliction after doing all physically possible that "it was just a thing in his mind"? |
Re: Do You Know A Spirit Can Possess You? by LordReed(m): 3:07am On Oct 01, 2021 |
TenQ: LMAO! Eczema is now a demonic possession? Bwahahahahaha! Thank Andromeda we have a better understanding of the causes of illnesses and diseases or else we would have been beholden to quacks telling us all manner of tall tales and selling us snake oil cures. Oga we have progressed past this your demon of eczema stories. |
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