iRepNaija1:


A cucumber is not a pênis, just like a dildø is not a pënis. The only thing the lady has done in the situation you're describing is masturbated. Ergo, she's still a virgin.

Oga stop deceiving yourself, you and I know the truth here.

iRepNaija1:

Honestly, I'm not sure. But NL is not the place. You have too many toxic, misogynistic, sexist people (notice I said people and not just men) who are very happy remaining ignorant and narrow-minded. You'll drive yourself crazy trying to educate others here. But I still appreciate your effort.

I am just wondering if there is such a platform out there.

iRepNaija1:


Honestly, I'm not sure. But NL is not the place. You have too many toxic, misogynistic, sexist people (notice I said people and not just men) who are very happy remaining ignorant and narrow-minded. You'll drive yourself crazy trying to educate others here. But I still appreciate your effort.

Promiscuous women empirically have been proven not to have the capacity to pair bond because they are damaged psychologically, experience is beneficial to men but detrimental to women and science backs these

Figger:
Oga stop deceiving yourself, you and I know the truth here.

I know the truth and it's not what you said. The OP literally gave you the definition, I explained it to you, and you still want to believe what you want. Stay ignorant.

JESHAL:



Promiscuous women empirically have been proven not to have the capacity to pair bond because they are damaged psychologically, experience is beneficial to men but detrimental to Nature and science backs these

Everyone, watch this person. He or she is using the word "proven" without providing evidence or a quote.

JESHAL:
TONYE001, I understand where you are coming from about the ideal state of avoiding fornication and adultery, but in reality if you push these equalist agenda, Feminist movement will actually misinterprete your intentions and demonize men solely leaving us accountable but removing responsiblity and accountablity from the woman

Stop quoting an individual who deliberately wants to be stupid. Its an effort towards futility.

A key that can open many locks is a master key
Meanwhile a lock that can be open by many keys is faulty and worthless
op It's the way it is
Life isn't fair anyway

iRepNaija1:


Everyone, watch this person. He or she is using the word "proven" without providing evidence or a quote.

The pictorial citation is part of the research where the peer reviewed studies was carried out and links are cited, the scientific literature is sound about these, the empirical evidence is clear

JESHAL:


The pictorial citation is part of the research where the peer reviewed studies was carried out and links are cited, the scientific literature is sound about these, the empirical evidence is clear

Where is the link? I don't want a screenshot. In fact, stop quoting me.

iRepNaija1:


Where is the link? I don't want a screenshot. In fact, stop quoting me.

LMFAO
You can't stomach the truth, even if I present my citation reference link you will reject the empirical evidence because it doesn't align with your blank slate Egalitarianism ideology, I won't bother wasting my time

The sources links are in the pictorial citation of the research methodology, Google it out anyone that wants more information

Evolutionary realities of both genders doesn't adhere to social construct of blank slate Egalitarianism ideology hence we can never be held to the same standards of morality

TONYE001:
Just a while ago, I read in dismay the thread about virginity on the Front Page.

I wouldn't go into the flawed arguments of the original poster and his supporters. Whether virginity is a prerequisite for a successful home or not should be left to spouses to decide for themselves.

The purpose of this thread is to attack the trend of applying virginity to only the female gender. The original poster and dozens of other responders talked about virginity with reference to the female gender only. The question then is, what about the males? Are males now permitted by religion, or morality, to engage in illicit sexual activities? Why do we always think of ladies each time virginity is mentioned? Why is there little or no emphasis on male virginity?

No matter how you want to look at it, a non-virgin male is exposed to the same factors as sexually exposed females. In terms of religion, the Bible frowns at premarital sex whether the individual is male or female. In terms of health, STD's and their complications apply to both males and females. In terms of fertility, male and female factor infertility may arise from high risk sexual exposures.

Our society is weird. Overtime, we have managed to tilt the standards against females. We hold them responsible when they bear female children only. We hold them responsible when the home fails. Now we are implying that they should remain virgins while the males are allowed to do as they please.

Maybe we should go back to the drawing board and begin to teach our children (males and females) the values of staying away from illicit sex and other high-risk habits. Maybe we should begin to tell ourselves that the laws of nature, and religion, apply to both males and females. It is cowardice to push blames to the females while keeping the male image aside. My point is, for a successful family, MALE and female factors are equally important.

Good evening.

My naija fellow men that full of hypocrisy.

They want to eat their cake and same time hold it.

75% if not not 90, of wayward girls/ladies today, came out good during their upbringing, it was guys who introduced sexual weird and different immoral lifestyles that made them go gaga. Yet guys that he himself with uncountable body counts will be searching for clean and classic virgin. Who does that?

Uncountable girls you have *disvirgined, I guess it's ur children and great children would line up to be their husbands.


You will see some guys that introduced girlfriend to all kinds of drinks and going to night clubs,...... they say when girl high, they fucckk like dog, .....yet he wants chastised house wife.

Who will now marry dog?

For anyone interested in the truth behind the attached pictorial citation, please visit the Reddit expose on it at

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/IAMALiberalFeminist/comments/bwfgv2/female_promiscuity_over_time/

Kobojunkie:
For anyone interested in the truth behind the attached pictorial citation, please visit the Reddit expose on it at

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/IAMALiberalFeminist/comments/bwfgv2/female_promiscuity_over_time/

Because the pictorial citation is on an anonymous forum on Reddit anonymous forum doesn't invalidate it, from your logic because a citation links was made in Nairaland it means it is not credible, these is intellectual dishonest, the REAL CITATION LINKS ARE ON THE PICTURE ITSELF, Google it out yourself

JESHAL:

Because the pictorial citation is on an anonymous forum on Reddit anonymous forum doesn't invalidate it, from your logic because a citation links was made in Nairaland it means it is not credible, these is intellectual dishonest, the REAL CITATION LINKS ARE ON THE PICTURE ITSELF, Google it out yourself

Family-studies.org which is reference on that pictorial citation does not print what is claimed on that at all. You can see the only article on promiscuity on their website for yourself at

https://ifstudies.org/blog/nine-decades-of-promiscuity

Kobojunkie:
For anyone interested in the truth behind the attached pictorial citation, please visit the Reddit expose on it at

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/IAMALiberalFeminist/comments/bwfgv2/female_promiscuity_over_time/

So as not to bastardize anonymous users on these forum here is another citation link with it's source of peered reviewed study,

Kobojunkie:
Family-studies.org which is reference on that pictorial citation does not print what is claimed on that at all. You can see the only article on promiscuity on their website for yourself at

https://ifstudies.org/blog/nine-decades-of-promiscuity

So as not to bastardize anonymous users on these forum here is another citation link with it's source of peered reviewed study,

JESHAL:
So as not to bastardize anonymous users on these forum here is another citation link with it's source of peered reviewed study,

congratulations! You are here proving the OP'S point .

Kobojunkie:
congratulations! You are here proving the OP'S point .

The links are studies on female promiscuity, I support the op based on the risks of premarital sex, he's very valid there

TONYE001:
Just a while ago, I read in dismay the thread about virginity on the Front Page.

I wouldn't go into the flawed arguments of the original poster and his supporters. Whether virginity is a prerequisite for a successful home or not should be left to spouses to decide for themselves.

Subjectively, you are right, individuals should find whatever mates that rocks their boats.

But as far as nature is concerned, virginity is a prerequisite for men when choosing women because it indicates that that woman is fertile. Fertility here indicates a spouse free of diseases, a spouse who will reproduce fertile kids, a spouse who has a high degree of pair bonding, a spouse who is loyal and will want a long happy relationship. These are very important because men are the ones committing, bringing more resources and less resistant to danger in the relationship.

Men don't attach emotions to sex, but women do! Women are both psychological and emotional about sex. Committing to a woman who has fvcked a lot of d!cks is a bad investment for the man because he's committing to a woman with a long standing sexual history encoded in her memory and who still have the tendency to go back down the memory lane reproducing these histories.

TONYE001:
The purpose of this thread is to attack the trend of applying virginity to only the female gender. The original poster and dozens of other responders talked about virginity with reference to the female gender only. The question then is, what about the males? Are males now permitted by religion, or morality, to engage in illicit sexual activities? Why do we always think of ladies each time virginity is mentioned? Why is there little or no emphasis on male virginity?

First of all, nature doesn't care about religion, morality(good or bad), ethics, principles blah blah blah. Everything you must understand when it comes to intersexual dynamics boils down to biology, evolution, psychology, biochemistry etc.

1. Natural selection selected females that has hymen to survive in the genetic pool because it was preferred by males. If males never found it important, women wouldn't have evolved to have hymen. Same way men didn't evolved to have hymen because women didn't see the need for it in men. Peacocks evolved to have beautiful tails because that's what peahens are attracted to and will mate with.

Men evolved to have bigger body mass and more violent because women preferred men that can protect, provide and be parentally invested. Women didn't because men never required women to defend them and also because women are the weaker sex.

Simply put, what each sexes desired in the other was selected for while others either became redundant or wiped out.

Morality may be put in place to check some excesses, however, it must be understood that nature must be worked with to achieve a positive aim rather than tamed!

And there's nothing like illicit sexual activities. I know you're ego invested in your religion/belief system. Humans have 3 mating systems: pair bonding or monogamy, casual mating or promiscuity and polygyny. (For polyandry, it is not common)!

Men rank higher in all of these sexual mating system, hence, it tends to seems that men are the only ones fvcking around. Why? Because:

1. men have a high libido fueled by testosterone.

2. A part of men's brain is stimulated when exposed to pornographic content.

3. Short life expectancy plus millions of sperms which must be spread out as fast as possible. Therefore, every mating opportunity must be properly utilized.

However, since women are the gatekeepers of sex, sex only happens when they decide! While commitment is decided by men! As a result, women can decide to have sex when they want, with whomever they want, unlike men that must persuade women before having sex. Ironically, though men are highly promiscuous, yet, they don't have sex regularly because women only want men that occupies the totem's pole of the society.

TONYE001:
No matter how you want to look at it, a non-virgin male is exposed to the same factors as sexually exposed females. In terms of religion, the Bible frowns at premarital sex whether the individual is male or female. In terms of health, STD's and their complications apply to both males and females. In terms of fertility, male and female factor infertility may arise from high risk sexual exposures.

This has nothing to do with the Bible or religion dear Christian!

To be sexually free of diseases is very sacrosanct. Hence, both men and women must practice safe sex. Because, none will invest in a partner that is sexually impure. So, where this has been taken care of, virginity still comes into play as mentioned earlier.

Now, exposures to unrestricted sexual activities among a population tends to lead to decrease in social, mental and productive energy. (Alright, you're now happy)! Zooistic and manistic societies when compared to deistic societies are in the lowest scale of civilization because of their unrestricted sexual activities. The highest in this energy is rationalistic societies, however, only few societies fluctuates back and forth in it without gaining proper balance.

This progress in civilization has been traced to limiting female promiscuity, remember: women are the gatekeepers of sex. Therefore, if you observe great societies or individuals during a particular period of time tracking their progress, you will notice this kind of mating system: Monogamy>polygamy>unrestricted sex. Monogamous societies are the second in the pyramid after rationalistic societies which is at the top.

TONYE001:
Our society is weird. Overtime, we have managed to tilt the standards against females. We hold them responsible when they bear female children only. We hold them responsible when the home fails. Now we are implying that they should remain virgins while the males are allowed to do as they please.

You are so full of emotions!

Evolutionary, female children are more beneficial than male children. They survive more at birth, have higher life expectancy, taken care of by men and society from birth to death, decide the number of men who will pass their genetic line to the next generation. Men are the expendable sex!

Men are the ones held responsible for everything because the growth and future of civilization falls upon their shoulders. And when they fail everything collapse. No wonder every good and great inventions and discovery has male signatures upon it.

Nobody is insinuating anything bro, it's nature doing the Lord's work. Women receiving series of harangues to remain virgins is for their own good because no reasonable man in his right senses with good resources will commit to a damaged woman.

TONYE001:
Maybe we should go back to the drawing board and begin to teach our children (males and females) the values of staying away from illicit sex and other high-risk habits. Maybe we should begin to tell ourselves that the laws of nature, and religion, apply to both males and females. It is cowardice to push blames to the females while keeping the male image aside. My point is, for a successful family, MALE and female factors are equally important.

Good evening.

What should be discussed on that drawing board is not Bible study nor religion, but everything that has to do with facts and figures, that's, data, statistics, observations and researches, and not fairy tales.

Understanding how things work, will be a proper guide if progress will be made. Men and women's nature must be understood, and since the sexes are sexually dimorphic, individual man and woman can decide on possible ways to work with their inherent nature rather than feel guilty. The consequences both intended and unintended must be properly analysed when discussing whether to run amok or not with our primal and inherent desires.

Thanks.

Good evening.

JESHAL:



Because the pictorial citation is on an anonymous forum on Reddit anonymous forum doesn't invalidate it, from your logic because a citation links was made in Nairaland it means it is not credible, these is intellectual dishonest, the REAL CITATION LINKS ARE ON THE PICTURE ITSELF, Google it out yourself

On reddit is a liberal feminist trying to do some counterattack bro. She muted the reply button though. Lol!

She shot herself here @pics below.

Since I'm not in anyway ego invested in any belief system but after empiricism and what's factually true and correct, I will track every links as mentioned and invest time reading bit by bit.

I can see your handwork here bro. You're doing the Lord's work. Kudos!

Thanks.

JESHAL:

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I can't believe this is the nonsense you wrote.

Abeg leave this thread. Every sensible person on this thread knows you're a biased hypocrite.

No sensible virgin will associate with you after seeing how you've been miserably trying to justify promiscuity in men.

TONYE001:


Sadly, all these definitions are just to justify male promiscuity.

Religion and media aside, there are grave consequences of keeping multiple sexual partners. Some of these may amount to death in the long run.

Men and women, for the good of their health, should maintain only one sexual partner.

Jeshal will wriggle around the topic and look for excuses and reasons to justify his stance that men cannot be virgins. And he must always look for a way to throw in the feminism ideology whether it relates with the discussion or not.

The double standards that a lot of men on this forum exhibit is usually meant to be to their advantage while they throw the women under the bus. They visit brothels, sleep with every female creature they meet and turn around to judge women with stricter standards.

Guys that fornicate, commit adultery, drunkards, drug addicts will quote the scriptures to drive home and foster their agenda/arguments. Do they obey other scriptures in the Bible? Nooo. But they know prov 31.

Virginity virginity...if they meet a virgin, can they abstain all through the dating/courtship period? People that will be begging to put in the tip as if their lives depend on it. They sleep around and deflower girls and dump them. But they want virgins.

Lots of comments here reveal the level of credulousness most Nigerian men have towards popular opinions. The OP simply hit the nail very hard, so hard it's giving cannal men intense migraines. It's not only about morality, religiousness but about self discipline.
Virginity is for everyone. Men and Women together.
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There is nothing wrong in being a virgin. It shows your level of self control over your body and state of mind.
Unfortunately, I missed the beautiful trill of keeping my rod in my trousers years ago. But I am a proud advocate for "no sex before marriage" and it's going beautifully well. My current girlfriend is a virgin, I told her I'm not interested in finding out, as long as she wants to remain that way. Whether or not we get married, it benefits both of us. We live together happy that we can trust each other after we are married, for us to have abstained! If it doesn't work out, we both leave with our emotional sanity intact!
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Keep it up doc. I look forward to reading more of your clinical experience (ur dairy is bae)

ImaIma1:


Jeshal will wriggle around the topic and look for excuses and reasons to justify his stance that men cannot be virgins. And he must always look for a way to throw in the feminism ideology whether it relates with the discussion or not.

The double standards that a lot of men on this forum exhibit is usually meant to be to their advantage while they throw the women under the bus. They visit brothels, sleep with every female creature they meet and turn around to judge women with stricter standards.

Guys that fornicate, commit adultery, drunkards, drug addicts will quote the scriptures to drive home and foster their agenda/arguments. Do they obey other scriptures in the Bible? Nooo. But they know prov 31.

Virginity virginity...if they meet a virgin, can they abstain all through the dating/courtship period? People that will be begging to put in the tip as if their lives depend on it. They sleep around and deflower girls and dump them. But they want virgins.

Ma, men and women are different, we can't be judged by the same standards, women just exist and they can get sexual access from men, men must have value to a degree whether it's good looks, height,money , status, game, confidence, to get sex, you think majority of men are sexually active with majority of women to the same degree, the answer is a big No, only 10-20% of men are fuccking 80% of women, there are studies that show that women only find 10% of men sexually arousing, the remaining 10% must compensate with good game( toasting skills), money, status to get sexual access to women, the remaining 80% of men are masturbating, watching pornography or paying for sex from cheap prostitutes

ImaIma1:


Jeshal will wriggle around the topic and look for excuses and reasons to justify his stance that men cannot be virgins. And he must always look for a way to throw in the feminism ideology whether it relates with the discussion or not.

The double standards that a lot of men on this forum exhibit is usually meant to be to their advantage while they throw the women under the bus. They visit brothels, sleep with every female creature they meet and turn around to judge women with stricter standards.

Guys that fornicate, commit adultery, drunkards, drug addicts will quote the scriptures to drive home and foster their agenda/arguments. Do they obey other scriptures in the Bible? Nooo. But they know prov 31.

Virginity virginity...if they meet a virgin, can they abstain all through the dating/courtship period? People that will be begging to put in the tip as if their lives depend on it. They sleep around and deflower girls and dump them. But they want virgins.

Among men masturbation is the norms, sex is the exception, it is very dishonest of you to apply the same standards of morality on both genders when women can get sex easily for doing nothing, men must create their value,women must preserve their value, a man's game is getting sex from a girl, a woman's game is retaining a man after she gives him sex, women want men with a future, men don't want women with a past, because we want to ensure our paternity, a promiscuous woman is likely to make us father a bastard that is not our own, women are very selective with whom they give sexual access to, men might want to fucck but if a woman refuse it won't happen, majority of men don't even know how to approach women talkless of wooing them for sex, the reality is that they are just fantasizing about women they can't have or watching pornography and mastubating, women can get sex anytime they want

JESHAL:



To ensure that I can pass my genes, I'm not taking a promiscuous woman serious, she must be chaste, potentially a virgin, there is sound empirical evidence that a promiscuous woman can't pair bond with her partners hence leading to failed Relationships, no damaged hoes, those remnants are for low or average valued men, hymen is a plausiblity and I will search for my bride, she must also have feminine traits with character and be ready for me to take away her virginity at any time

I'm not going to father any bastard , I can't risk it with a hoe

Medically, promiscuous men and women are at risk of infertility, not just women. Longstanding STD's trigger series of inflammatory reactions that may spread to the gonads thereby incapacitating them. So, you see that high-risk lifestyles affect both genders.

Perhaps while you (not necessarily you now, every other male out there) are interested in settling down with a lady of good character and all, you should also channel similar efforts in ensuring that you are of good character too. Like this, you would also preserve yourself for your wife. Or you don't think ladies deserve settling down with "undamaged goods"? Apparently they do too.

Fiscus105:


My naija fellow men that full of hypocrisy.

They want to eat their cake and same time hold it.

75% if not not 90, of wayward girls/ladies today, came out good during their upbringing, it was guys who introduced sexual weird and different immoral lifestyles that made them go gaga. Yet guys that he himself with uncountable body counts will be searching for clean and classic virgin. Who does that?

Uncountable girls you have *disvirgined, I guess it's ur children and great children would line up to be their husbands.


You will see some guys that introduced girlfriend to all kinds of drinks and going to night clubs,...... they say when girl high, they fucckk like dog, .....yet he wants chastised house wife.

Who will now marry dog?

Exactly my point. What is good for the males, is good for the females. Wonder why this is difficult to understand.

JESHAL:



Among men masturbation is the norms, sex is the exception, it is very dishonest of you to apply the same standards of morality on both genders when women can get sex easily for doing nothing, men must create their value,women must preserve their value, a man's game is getting sex from a girl, a woman's game is retaining a man after she gives him sex, women want men with a future, men don't want women with a past, because we want to ensure our paternity, a promiscuous woman is likely to make us father a bastard that is not our own, women are very selective with whom they give sexual access to, men might want to fucck but if a woman refuse it won't happen, majority of men don't even know how to approach women talkless of wooing them for sex, the reality is that they are just fantasizing about women they can't have or watching pornography and mastubating, women can get sex anytime they want

You are just speaking plenty English but beating about the bush and coming up with your own made up premises and conclusions.

We are not talking ideologies or theories. We are talking practically.

Do you think all the people you see getting married every Saturday are all virgins?

Do you think all the marriages that have stood the test of time, the women were all virgins?

Or the divorced ones. None of them were virgins when they got married?

Marriage goes beyond marrying a virgin. What of the virgins who go back to their exes? Do you think they are also not capable of giving their husbands another man's child.

I once talked about my husband's ex who got married as a virgin (of course she and my hubby never got intimate). She didn't conceive after some years with her husband. She travelled from her state to where my husband was to ask him to sleep with her, maybe she would get pregnant....

A virgin is advantageous to a large extent but it doesn't guarantee anything. She's still a woman with emotions and feelings.

Try to always base your arguments on real life happenings and not your concocted statistics and ideologies. Go and ask that your uncle, senior friend, cousin etc, especially those ones in marriages that have lasted. Ask them if their wives were virgins.

And please try to use paragraphs.

JESHAL:


Ma, men and women are different, we can't be judged by the same standards, women just exist and they can get sexual access from men, men must have value to a degree whether it's good looks, height,money , status, game, confidence, to get sex, you think majority of men are sexually active with majority of women to the same degree, the answer is a big No, only 10-20% of men are fuccking 80% of women, there are studies that show that women only find 10% of men sexually arousing, the remaining 10% must compensate with good game( toasting skills), money, status to get sexual access to women, the remaining 80% of men are masturbating, watching pornography or paying for sex from cheap prostitutes

Drop the source of your statistics or forever hold your peace.

Where was it done? Was the data collected in Nigeria and analysed?

ImaIma1:


Drop the source of your statistics or forever hold your peace.

Where was it done? Was the data collected in Nigeria and analysed?

A woman who has a promiscuous past is imprinted by her exes, and damaged for life, I can't take that chance, she has a higher probability of making me father a bastard, and empirically she is proven not to pair bond, there is even a very high probability she would be problematic in marriage and divorce me, remember Nigerian men are accepting non-virgins because they don't have the capacity to get the chaste virgins as they are not high valued enough, remember they are only lucky because our Marital institution has not become a government influenced institution with alimony, child support and child custody laws that favor women like western societies, traditions and religion still influence our Marital values hence women are incentivised to keep their homes, I can bet on my life they would destroy their marriages if they were no traditional values