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Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by Ebi2233: 11:56am On Oct 04, 2021 |
AdakaBoro8: Amayanabo means owner of town in my Kolokuma too. 1 Like |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by Ebi2233: 11:57am On Oct 04, 2021 |
BKayy: Alagoa is even from Nembe that you guys are saying they are also Igbo. |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by BKayy: 12:00pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
AdakaBoro8:See? That is where you are wrong. We don't do kings. Ubani was a bureaucratic Town during the day's of Pepple, Jaja etc. Hence the town was administered by influence of the trading houses (something you drunks corrupted to "war canoe houses", whatever that thing means) I am even giving you all free history classes. Until early 20th century, nobody called himself Amayanabo in any part of Ubani, Kalabari, Opobo and the likes. Even Eze, Obi and the rest are all trash to us. 8 Likes |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by Eastlink(m): 12:01pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
Ebi2233:Ayebapirinye is Kalabari of which was copied by those in Kolokuma. The piriye is Ijo. Where did Bonny/Ubani people tell you they migrated from Kolokuma? Kolokuma that was not even existing when Bonny dominated trade in the bight of Biafra will suddenly birth Bonny? Is that not insanity? Did any European historian made mention of Kolokuma/Opokuma in their write up? The major people talked about in that axis where Brass, Nembe, Oru and Ijo/Ujo. Those who made Kolokuma/Opokuma relevant were Isaac Boro (Who was from there) and Prof. Alagoa who might secretly have his origin from there before his ancestors migrated to Nembe. Kolokuma/Opokuma is the native home of Isaac Boro. And it was even through him that the area became popular. I want to believe it was there the Ijos drew their expansionist agenda in the 1800’s until Boro came to fulfil the prophecy in 1960’s. It was even from this belt that the Ijos began a mass migration into other areas of the Niger-Delta. Any wonder the Kolokuma/Opokuma was chosen as the central place to impose origin and main dialect on every Riverian community. The era of falsifying the scam Kolokuma/Okpokuma origin on Bonny, Okrika and Kalabari is far spent. We are no longer in the analogue era when people just swallow every fairy tale hook, line and sinker. We are in the digital age. And anyone with question can just Google the internet to find first-hand history written from 1600 to 1900 by the European explorers. That was how you guys came up with the scam Perekule (Ijo name) that was swallowed by Bonny people until it was proven that Pepple came from Pepper and that Pepple went by his Igbo middle name Oruigbiji with origin from Ndoki. 7 Likes |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by Ebi2233: 12:02pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
proeast: Opobo people don't bear Ibo names, Ibim or Ibiwari is not Ibo name. Preye is not Ibo name. So why are Opobo and Bonny people compulsorily learning Ibani Ijaw in primary and secondary school, and not Ibo? All Ibo rants, end here on Nairaland no where e reach. Go claim Ijaw land, physical and not on Nairaland. |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by BKayy: 12:07pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
Ebi2233:I don't consider Brass people Igbo. Anyways don't shift the goal post. We are talking about Ama-Opubo and Ubani here 6 Likes |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by Ebi2233: 12:09pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
BKayy: But you consider Nembe, and Alagoa is Nembe. See as your lies, are catching up with you. Why are Opobo and Bonny compulsorily learning Ibani-Ijaw in primary and secondary schools, in all their two different Ijaw clans, with over 70 towns. Why not Ibo. All Ibo rants end here on Nairaland. |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by BKayy: 12:13pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
Ebi2233:They are learning Ubani language not Ijaw. You can fool others here by attaching "Ijaw" to the back like Fulani do with "Hausa-Fulani" not me. It started after the war, displacing the name "Igbo Language". The same was done in Ikwerre areas at the same time. Ok. In that Ubani language they learn, they call something "Ọlị" can you tell us what it is? Since their ancestors came from your compound as you alleged. And for the record, "Brass is Brass" not Ijaw. The un calculated stupidity from Alagoa can't change the identity of thousands of Brass people because Alagoa is just one Ignorant man. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by Ebi2233: 12:18pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
BKayy: To show you that you know nothing about Ijaw Okoloba is a town, in the Kolokuma clan and not compound. Ijaw say, Kalabari-Ijaw, Okrika-Ijaw, Obolo-Ijaw, Engenni-Ijaw, Nembe-Ijaw, Ogbia-Ijaw, Ibani Ijaw, Arogbo Ijaw, Mein Ijaw.p Etc. Each of these few subgroups, I mentioned here, have no less than 70 towns each. I didn't mention even half, just few Ijaw subgroups. You know nothing about Ijaw. |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by Eastlink(m): 12:20pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
Ebi2233:Can you drag what you own? If a person drags a property he owns, then it's fraud. Ijos have been the ones dragging Bonny since ages. Did you ever hear that Igbos forcefully land grabbed Bonny/Opobo? Please tell me who did the following in Bonny and we’ll know the real land grabbers. 1. Who forcefully committed genocide in Bonny, Opobo during the civil war all in a ploy to force a people to change their identity? 2. Who forcefully with the aid of Fombo changed the “NSO, NSO, NSO” in Bonny Anglican Cathedral to Ibani (Kalabari dialect). 3. Who tried to eliminate the Kings and notable personalities in Bonny/Opobo as threats to Ijaw ownership in 1967? 4. Who fraudulently brought the idea of reviving Ibani as Bonny aboriginal language and went on to impose it? Even going as far to stylishly appeal to Bonny people to stop speaking Bonny dialect but Ibani instead. 5. Who instigated Bonny people to start changing their history from Ndoki origin to reverse migration from Kolokuma/Opokuma? 6. Who implemented the ban on Igbo Bible and literatures in Bonny? 7. Who introduced the idea of calling Bonny families with Igbo names and heritage slaves imported from the hinterland. Even going to the extent of calling notable figures like Oko Jumbo, Jaja, and a host of other houses freed slaves from Igboland in order to prove that everything Igbo in Bonny came as slaves? They even went to the extent of removing Igbo aboriginal links in Bonny to the extent of changing them to look Ijoid. The name Perekule is a great example. The truth is that Ijos from Bayelsa carried out the first onslaught on Bonny, Opobo and other communities during and after the civil war. Igbo are only starting the Part 2 of the first movie by Ijos. The Part 3 is yet to even commence. 12 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by BKayy: 12:26pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
Ebi2233:That is not the answer to my question. What does Ọlị mean? It is the first the they learn in the "Ibani language" from primary to secondary school. If you want to test us, ask for the "Ibani language" text book, snap a page and paste it here and we will translate the full page to English. Do you know why we can? Because it is the same dialect our first Igbo Bible was written with. As for the lies you have up there. I don't give a fvck about them 10 Likes |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by BKayy: 12:28pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
Eastlink:One word can answer the seven question "IJAW" 10 Likes |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by Ebi2233: 12:30pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
Kalabari Subgroup of the Ijaw tribe, Have Ke clan, Kalabari clan, Kula clan, and Bille clan. About 4 clans for the about 70 Kalabari towns. Okrika Subgroup of the Ijaw tribe, have Okrika clan, Abuloma clan, Bolo clan, Ogu clan. Ibani Sugroup of the Ijaw people have Bonny clan. Opobo Clan Andoni Subgroup of the Ijaw tribe have Asarama clan, Ngo clan, Ataba clan, Obolo clan, Ibeno clan etc. Nembe Subgroup of the Ijaw tribe have. Oluasiri clan, Brass clan, Okoroama clan Nembe clan. Ogbia subgroup of the Ijaw people have Ogbia clan, Anyama clan, Agholo clan, Oruma clan. Engenni Subgroup of the Ijaw people have Engenni clan, Ogbogolo clan , Zarama clan. Each of these Subgroups have no less than 70 towns each. These ones I mentioned, are not even half of the Subgroups, that make up the Ijaw tribe. |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by Eastlink(m): 12:30pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
BKayy:Then we’ve gotten the answer. The Ijaw are the real identity thief and land grabbers. 7 Likes |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by Ebi2233: 12:32pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
BKayy: Go and ask Ibim Ibiwari from Opobo who is the Ijaw Youth Council Chairman. Rivers Akwa-Ibom and Aminadokiari. |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by BKayy: 12:33pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
Eastlink:Shameless people. I can't help but imagine the face of the ignoramus that wrote "Perekule" on the wall of the so called Amayanabo Palace when real Ubani children question him on who "George Oruigbiji" is after going through recorded interviews and documented testaments from/of the man they wiped his identity and gave him "Perekule" because of the lies from Alagoa? Thinking of how he will disgrace himself in their presence makes me laugh. An African adage says "When a child matures, he will look for his father" So when the people of "Ubani and Opobo mature, they will ask who George Oruigbiji is" 8 Likes |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by Ebi2233: 12:36pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
BKayy: All Ibo rants end on Nairaland no where e reach. |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by Ebi2233: 12:37pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
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Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by Eastlink(m): 12:37pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
BKayy:Lol, the person didn't know that a time will come when children will ask their Fathers questions? I bet he didn't know that the real name of Pepple was saved in the British Library. If there's one thing Ndigbo should thank Britain, is by keeping the earliest history of the Niger-Delta intact. No one would have imagined that a day like this will arise when minority landgrabbers and their allies will plan to supplant Igbo origin and links to tribes in the Niger-Delta. 8 Likes |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by Ebi2233: 12:38pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
Go claim Ijaw land physical, and not on Nairaland. Landlocked dot circle Biafra Republic.
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Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by BKayy: 12:39pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
Ebi2233:Didn't you see the media tag on the PG ọfọ n' ogu interview? The one from Mr Osondu? That aside. When Ubani and Opobo mature, they will look for their father. 9 Likes
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Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by Eastlink(m): 12:45pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
AdakaBoro8:So when are the real Ijos in Delta, Ondo and Bayelsa changing Pere to Amanayabo? If Amanayabo is Ijo origin, don't you think it should be wide spread in Ijawland and not just the eastern Niger-Delta? Why isn't Amanayabo the name of King in the Western Niger-Delta? This shows you another scam we would highlight in the future. In Igboland Eze, Obi and Igwe are widespread. Even Igbanke surrounded by Bini’s still call their Kings Eze locally rather than the Enogie imposed on them by Oba palace. Why is Ijo different? 8 Likes |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by christistruth01: 12:48pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
You need to remove Itsekiri and Urhobo from your Map |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by Ebi2233: 12:54pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
BKayy: Why doesn't Bonny and Opobo learn Ibo in primary and secondary schools, like other Ibo areas, all Over Southeast. Why do they learn Ibani Ijaw instead. All Ibo rants end on Nairaland go and claim the Ijaw areas physical. |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by BKayy: 12:54pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
Eastlink:First of all. We don't do kings. So all those titles don't matter. Second of all, Amayanabo is Kalabari word and like Boma said and from evidences beyond both reasonable and unreasonable (maka ndị kai kai) doubt, Kalabari is not Ijaw. Third of all, Ubani was a bureaucratic Town. The Amayanabo bullshit started in early 20th century, the same way Warrant chiefs started in Igboland with them taking Obi, Igwe, Eze etc as titles. 5 Likes |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by Ebi2233: 12:55pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
christistruth01: Itsekiri and Urhobo are not in the map and I didn't create it. Take it to General Ditari and the Ijaw militants working on Ijaw Republic. 1 Like |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by horsepower102: 12:57pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
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Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by BKayy: 12:59pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
Ebi2233:I call a young cow "Calf" and you call it "baby cow" what difference does it make? It is still a cow that is growing up. You call it "Ibani", I call it "Ubani" and they call it "Bonny" but one thing is certain, anybody from Igboland can understand what they say and no matter how hard you as an ijaw man try, you can't hear shit. By the way the answer to the question "what is ọlị from Ubani" means is "One" Thank you very much 7 Likes |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by Ebi2233: 12:59pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
BKayy: My town uses Amayanabo tell me that I'm not Ijaw. Why didn't Asari Dokubo from Kalabari say Ibos are Kalabari slaves, but he said ibos are Ijaw slaves. Why is the Vice President of the Ijaw National Congress INC, the present number 2 Ijaw person worldwide. Sir Atamuno from Kalabari. All Ibo rants end on Nairaland. |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by Eastlink(m): 1:00pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
BKayy:You hit the nail. Just like in other parts of Igboland, Kingship was introduced into Bonny by the British. What Bonny had initially was elders and Okpara (First sons) leading their houses and community. Okpara Ndoli was a typical example. I read somewhere where it was reported that Halliday and Asimni shared power. Halliday was senior to Asimini. However, Asimini by virtue of his military might and after his success in the war with Andoni, finally supplanted Halliday from the headship, and even exiled him until his return. But this time making peace with Asimini and relinquishing his headship to Bonny. Asimini invented the idea of War Canoe houses of which he brought in from Kalabari. Bonny at that time needed to defend her trade interest and it was paramount she choose a military leader. Asimini would go on to become the first King of Bonny. The hereditary Kinship in Bonny began from him, any wonder his lineage continued in that stead. Pepple is from Asimini bloodline. 8 Likes |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by Ebi2233: 1:01pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
BKayy: Why doesn't the Ibani-Ijaw People of Bonny and Opobo learn Ibo like other Ibo areas. But instead they learn Ibani Ijaw in primary and secondary school. |
Re: Igbos Should Stop Claiming Ijo Territory 2 by BKayy: 1:03pm On Oct 04, 2021 |
Ebi2233:Sometimes I forget I am dealing with a drunk. My dear your answer is in the post you quoted. Ask someone that is not drunk where you are to read and explain it for you. Although I know it is near to impossible to see someone in Ijaw land that is not drunk at this time of the day. Anyways let me help you "whatever name they call the language whether Ubani," Ibani", bonny or even bonga fish language, na still Igbo them they teach because whatever they teach or learn there, an average Igbo will still understand it" 7 Likes |
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