hensben:
So Messi na failure. I was a play maker so I love any footballers that influences games because this is primarily the trait of midfielders. You just type anything to win argument; what scoring away or home to rate players, what is winning team trophies and starting finals to rate Boateng above Terry and Sylva, not be stupidly be that. I always screenshot your opinion and send to my friends in Munich, they always laugh and say you are either trolling or acting airhead to the discussion.

From your opinions, the company you keep on here, I wont be surprised at the type of people you call your friends

Where has Messi failed? If scoring at home or away is not an issue, Liverpool official website will not write a story about it.

Yes Boateng at his peak was a better defender than Terry Silva at their peak

hensben:
You are missing the discussion, nobody is saying Firmino is better than either Salah or Mane but his contribution to their attack is very important is what we are letting you know, calling him useless is what we are correcting. Hazard was hit with injury at Madrid, meanwhile, your Neymar is not doing better too, they just lost yesterday. I never argued Salah with you but you said he is greater than Drogba as at that time which was false, even till now he is not greater than Drogba. Drogba did more for Chelsea and epl than Salah so far, stats is not everything. Who doesn’t know Lampard is not a tier 1 coach, he was been supported because he is one of our own but when it was now obvious that he can lead the team to trophies some of us here revolted against him to be sacked. You are the poorest football analyst I have come across in my entire life. Little wonder you are supporting Bayern Munich, a safe haven for less engagement. You come here to pass time and troll.

WHat is Firminos contribution on attack asides attaching to better teammates to claim attacking trio?
Hazard hit by injury? when was the last injury Hazard had and how has he delivered since then? Neymar is not doing better? have you counted his CL goals? Neymar lost yesterday didnt Hazards team lose too? even vs Sheriff?

Anyone who saw Salah play after his 2nd season will know that he was better than Drogba people like us who could see this called it early but some cannot see beyond their noses like you

Your claim to supporting Lampard only shows that you are a sentimental person who will support inferior people and players because they are one of you. That is why you will say Hazard is better than Neymar, Terry or Silva is better than Boateng

The last statement in your post shows your level of reasoning and by extension your so called friends too

raumdeuter:


Firmino in 365 days would have played over 25 home matches and went without a goal
If its not an issue, the Liverpool official website will not write about it. Its not like they are saying he didnt score with his right leg or head. No goals in a yr at home

That is why he was quickly replaced. Why are they not replacing Mane?

It is only an issue for you cos you didn't read the content instead you just jumped on the catchy headline.
Like I said, it's not as if he wasn't scoring, but he wasn't scoring at home. Also it's not as if he's not scoring important or winning goals... He is, tho it's away.

Everyone knows Anfield is a fortress and that different scorers can emerge, the key is beating those small teams and other big teams at their home and if firmino is doing that (esp popping in the winning goals) who will begrudge him??

It would have been bad if he wasn't scoring or assisting at all, but he is. That's why I ask, would scoring the 3rd goal in a 3-0 win at home better than scoring the winner in a 2-1 win away??

User09:


Currently, I think the team plays better without Lukaku. Except there's a shift in system by TT or Lukaku improves in certain areas upfront (pressing, movement) we're going to be way too predictable. Plenty times during the games, I thought he needed to move deep or go wide to allow other forward players take up the vacated central spots

He probably needs to sit some games out. At least he provides flexibility for us. He currently has a better chemistry with Timo compared to the others and he has a history of playing 3-5-2 in Inter with Conte

TT certainly has his work cut out for him in terms of synergy upfront. Let's see in December, I expect adjustments to have been made

This is why I didn't want him in the first place. But if you talk here you have an agenda.

It's left for Tuchel to fit him in cus you can't get a striker for 100mil and leave him on the bench

popizaino:



The only reason why we are going to be too predictable is because of Jorginho,cus everyone is aware of what he is going to do with the ball.He's never going to move forward with the ball or neither is he going to try to beat a press press or pick out his wingback running on the flank so tell me why we aren't going to be too predictable with such a limited player.

We weren't predictable last season with Jorginho starting most of our games.

Jodera:
It is only an issue for you cos you didn't read the content instead you just jumped on the catchy headline.
Like I said, it's not as if he wasn't scoring, but he wasn't scoring at home. Also it's not as if he's not scoring important or winning goals... He is, tho it's away.

Everyone knows Anfield is a fortress and that different scorers can emerge, the key is beating those small teams and other big teams at their home and if firmino is doing that (esp popping in the winning goals) who will begrudge him??

It would have been bad if he wasn't scoring or assisting at all, but he is. That's why I ask, would scoring the 3rd goal in a 3-0 win at home better than scoring the winner in a 2-1 win away??

Why is the Liverpool site not writing about Salah not scoring headers, or with bicycle kick etc because its not important just google "Firminos goal drought" and you will see different article. Almost 10 all saying the same thing but will be quick to write how he compensate by working hard like the olodo student who compensates with neatness and punctuality

Liverpool plays over 25 games at home every season and a 9 did not score any shows why he was quickly shunted out and your excuse that it was post covid is false because most of those articles complaining about Firmino were pre covid

Not scoring at home in over 25 games is a symptom of a bigger issue which has come to show face , Firmino is a liability and a leech on other peoples effort under the guise of hardworking

raumdeuter:


Liverpool bought Shaqiri who is a right sided player, at the end of the day he left in frustration because the beast on the right side was irreplaceable

Of the front 3 Salah is the most productive and most irreplaceable, If someone offered good money for Mane they would consider but for Firmino no one wants him

When you buy a player who is mainly a left wing player who do you think they are planning to use him for?

Liverpool had shaqiri who can also play that 9 and Chamberlain who can play the wings while Salah plays 9 yet they are always on the bench or played in midfield while Firmino still plays the no9 slot for over 3years.
I don't know why you think klopp will keep on using a useless player when options yakata on the bench

raumdeuter:


On Saturday when Jorginho didnt start how many chances were you creating for your main striker abi na Jorginho dey hold their legs from the bench

Was the one who was asked to start in place of jorginho a natural born deep play maker? Was he playing his natural position. Bring a natural DM there and you will be seeing this chances.

Jodera:
Liverpool had shaqiri who can also play that 9 and Chamberlain who can play the wings while Salah plays 9 yet they are always on the bench or played in midfield while Firmino still plays the no9 slot for over 3years.
I don't know why you think klopp will keep on using a useless player when options yakata on the bench

Shaqiri is a right wnger and couldnt bench Salah until he left. Jota is a left winger he couldnt bench Mane succesfully until he found a weak person

If Shaqiri and Chamberlain were as good as Jota, they would have benched Firmino long time ago

popizaino:

Was the one who was asked to start in place of jorginho a natural born deep play maker? Was he playing his natural position. Bring a natural DM there and you will be seeing this chances.

Which maternity ward do they "born" those natural born deep play maker?

raumdeuter:


Why is the Liverpool site not writing about Salah not scoring headers, or with bicycle kick etc because its not important just google Firminos goal drought and you will see different article.

Liverpool plays over 25 games at home every season and a 9 did not score any shows why he was quickly shunted out and your excuse that it was post covid is false because most of those articles complaining about Firmino were pre covid

Not scoring at home in over 25 games is a symptom of a bigger issue which has come to show face , Firmino is a liability and a leech on other peoples effort under the guise of hardworking

Lol... I didn't even notice he had such goal drought cos he was popping in goals(tho away). Lemme use this example... Lukaku have scored up to 4 goals in league this season. I know he is performing and he's getting the winning goals, but I no send weda it's home goals or away goals. That one no concern me(or Chelsea fans), as long as he keeps on popping winning goals this season and Chelsea is winning while rudiger, havertz and kante is scoring the home goals for them. You think any one will begrudge him?
Lol

raumdeuter:


From your opinions, the company you keep on here, I wont be surprised at the type of people you call your friends

Where has Messi failed? If scoring at home or away is not an issue, Liverpool official website will not write a story about it.

Yes Boateng at his peak was a better defender than Terry Silva at their peak

Because messi is not just a scorer but also a playmaker, the fact that I love playmakers doesn’t make me a failure or I support failed players. No right thinking person will call Hazard a failed footballer, if he is not that good like you have being saying Madrid will not sign him for 140 million and be paying him 400k something a week. He was hit with injury at Madrid. My friends are more knowledgeable than you on football matters. You are pardon here because everyone see you as a troll, an entertainer on here on football matters.
For example, I have never heard anyone rate Boateng ahead of sylva or Terry except you. “Boateng better than Terry or sylva” is what I showed my Munich guys and they said you are trolling.

Exonerate1:


We weren't predictable last season with Jorginho starting most of our games.

What was our points total last season and what would have been out points total if you extrapolated just TT 19 games into 38 games?

raumdeuter:


Shaqiri is a right wnger and couldnt bench Salah until he left. Jota is a left winger he couldnt bench Mane succesfully until he found a weak person

If Shaqiri and Chamberlain were as good as Jota, they would have benched Firmino long time ago

Salah can play the number 9 very well for Liverpool (he's done so numerous times).
If firmino is so useless, why didn't klopp shunt Salah to the 9 spot while Shaqiri plays the wing. After all averagely shaqiri scores more goals than firmino right?

hensben:
You are missing the discussion, nobody is saying Firmino is better than either Salah or Mane but his contribution to their attack is very important is what we are letting you know, calling him useless is what we are correcting. Hazard was hit with injury at Madrid, meanwhile, your Neymar is not doing better too, they just lost yesterday. I never argued Salah with you but you said he is greater than Drogba as at that time which was false, even till now he is not greater than Drogba. Drogba did more for Chelsea and epl than Salah so far, stats is not everything. Who doesn’t know Lampard is not a tier 1 coach, he was been supported because he is one of our own but when it was now obvious that he can lead the team to trophies some of us here revolted against him to be sacked. You are the poorest football analyst I have come across in my entire life. Little wonder you are supporting Bayern Munich, a safe haven for less engagement. You come here to pass time and troll.

sentiments, sentiments and sentiments

nihilistjnr:


Larride should leave Nasco first and explain how a man arrested for Terrorism under Obj regime is now leading prayer with Buhari.

It all makes sense now why Boko Haram nominated Buhari to negotiate on their behalf.

A man arrested for alleged terrorism under OBJ who was released by the court a month after and wasn’t rearrested by OBJ, Yar’Adua or Jonathan neither was his name mentioned anywhere else linking him to terrorism?

The founder of Nasco was listed as a terrorism funder and he was rightly delisted after he cleared his name some 20 years ago. Till the man died his name never found its way back to that list. But yeah 20 years later, Nasco is being used to fund terrorism because it’s funder was once listed as a terrorism funder even though it has been cleared. Makes sense right? No wire transfers, no money trials of such, just conjectures.

Like I said, it’s only those that doesn’t know David Hundeyin that will take that article as anything as trash. When Nasco decides to sue, we will all be here to see him recant and delete the article with the speed of light. Was that not the same thing he tried doing during the death of that Umoren in Akwa Ibom?

And yes Boko Haram nominated Buhari to mediate on their behalf and he rightly declined to do so.

raumdeuter:


WHat is Firminos contribution on attack asides attaching to better teammates to claim attacking trio?
Hazard hit by injury? when was the last injury Hazard had and how has he delivered since then? Neymar is not doing better? have you counted his CL goals? Neymar lost yesterday didnt Hazards team lose too? even vs Sheriff?

Anyone who saw Salah play after his 2nd season will know that he was better than Drogba people like us who could see this called it early but some cannot see beyond their noses like you

Your claim to supporting Lampard only shows that you are a sentimental person who will support inferior people and players because they are one of you. That is why you will say Hazard is better than Neymar, Terry or Silva is better than Boateng

The last statement in your post shows your level of reasoning and by extension your so called friends too

Lampard as a coach have to be supported by fans to do well, without comparing him to another coach, what’s sentimental there, where is your sense of logic bro. You guys are the ones always claiming Neymar is better than Hazard but same Neymar is not doing better too with the amount psg splash on him. My friends are more logical than you on football matters.

raumdeuter:


Which maternity ward do they "born" those natural born deep play maker?

Havertz10:
sentiments, sentiments and sentiments

Whats sentimental there?

Jodera:
Lol... I didn't even notice he had such goal drought cos he was popping in goals(tho away). Lemme use this example... Lukaku have scored up to 4 goals in league this season. I know he is performing and he's getting the winning goals, but I no send weda it's home goals or away goals. That one no concern me(or Chelsea fans), as long as he keeps on popping winning goals this season and Chelsea is winning while rudiger, havertz and kante is scoring the home goals for them. You think any one will begrudge him?
Lol

Not scoring at home is a symptom of few goals to start with. If you score 20 goals like Salah and Mane were doing you will likely have scored at home but when you are dropping single digits then you will be dealing with ish like that

Lukaku has scored 3 goals in the league both home and away but Firmino will go an entire calendar year without any goal and wearing number 9 jersey

hensben:
Because messi is not just a scorer but also a playmaker, the fact that I love playmakers doesn’t make me a failure or I support failed players. No right thinking person will call Hazard a failed footballer, if he is not that good like you have being saying Madrid will not sign him for 140 million and be paying him 400k something a week. He was hit with injury at Madrid. My friends are more knowledgeable than you on football matters. You are pardon here because everyone see you as a troll, an entertainer on here on football matters.
For example, I have never heard anyone rate Boateng ahead of sylva or Terry except you. “Boateng better than Terry or sylva” is what I showed my Munich guys and they said you are trolling.

Madrid don sign terrible players before, they signed Royston Drenthe, they signed Thomas Gravesen

Did you show your friends that Hazard is better than Neymar? They probably agree with you too

Emmynator:


You come carry this Jorginho matter for head pass sir ibi.me o

When you have a player that wants to play to demand of his opponent then such a player is a no no for me. Opponent doesn't want you to advance with the ball and you glady retire the ball,tell me why I won't carry that kind player matter for my head especially when he plays for the club I support?

Jodera:
Salah can play the number 9 very well for Liverpool (he's done so numerous times).
If firmino is so useless, why didn't klopp shunt Salah to the 9 spot while Shaqiri plays the wing. After all averagely shaqiri scores more goals than firmino right?

Salah is more effective on the right Mane is more effective on the left, and from the way things look Firmino might be more effective sitting on the bench

Why will a coach weaken his strongest point to accomodate another player?
Do you think Ole should move Ronaldo to the right to accomodate Lingard in the middle?
Or do you think Klopp should move Mane to the right and Salah to the left too?
Right now, Mane retained his postion, Salah retained his position and Firmino was promoted to coach

Raumdeuter you rate attackers based on stats because of Neymar and Hazard argument then( never mind the team they play for).
You then rate defenders based on World Cup won on the pitch because of boateng. Nor be airhead behavior be this. E reach to call you a troll, no consistency.

hensben:
Lampard as a coach have to be supported by fans to do well, without comparing him to another coach, what’s sentimental there, where is your sense of logic bro. You guys are the ones always claiming Neymar is better than Hazard but same Neymar is not doing better too with the amount psg splash on him. My friends are more logical than you on football matters.

Tell us how Hazard is better than Neymar and show the response to your friends

They say Show me your friends and I will tell who you are

raumdeuter:


Which maternity ward do they "born" those natural born deep play maker?

Certainly not the same maternity as jorginho.

hensben:
Raumdeuter you rate attackers based on stats because of Neymar and Hazard argument then( never mind the team they play for).
You then rate defenders based on World Cup won on the pitch because of boateng. Nor be airhead behavior be this. E reach to call you a troll, no consistency.

Attackers are rated based on output. Which is goals and assists. Ronaldo and Messi are the best attackers in recent times. Why? Do you think its the color of their jersey

Defenders are rated by how many goals they prevent but we have seen people like Terry who is useless but was carried by a solid defensive side, when he went outside of Chelsea system to his National team he failed woefully

raumdeuter:


Madrid don sign terrible players before, they signed Royston Drenthe, they signed Thomas Gravesen

Did you show your friends that Hazard is better than Neymar? They probably agree with you too

How much Madrid sign Drenthe and Thomas Graveson? Were they signed with outrageous fee like Hazard.

As at the time, they said both are good and helping their respective teams.

hensben:
How much Madrid sign Drenthe and Thomas Graveson? Were they signed with outrageous fee like Hazard.

As at the time, they said both are good and helping their respective teams.

Barcelona signed Dembele and Coutinho for big money and they are flops

Hazard is a flop

Google Madrid transfer flops and see the names on it. I am sure Hazard will be number 1 on most list

raumdeuter:


Barcelona signed Dembele and Coutinho for big money and they are flops

Hazard is a flop

Google Madrid transfer flops and see the names on it. I am sure Hazard will be number 1 on most list

They flopped due to injury like Neymar for psg. History will be kind to them.

raumdeuter:


Barcelona signed Dembele and Coutinho for big money and they are flops

Hazard is a flop

Google Madrid transfer flops and see the names on it. I am sure Hazard will be number 1 on most list

Its just like saying Ronaldo De Lima flopped at Barcelona.

hensben:
Its just like saying Ronaldo De Lima flopped at Barcelona.

lol. De Lima won WPOTY at Barca