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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by weedtaker: 8:54pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
kendrick93:Thought he played as a Midfielder during his stint in the Bundelsiga? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:55pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
kendrick93: This Salah that became this beast was he a prolific goal scorer before Liverpool signed him? everyone dey improve, Firmino dey link up 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AnfieldFan: 8:57pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
Ibime: That's what I understood... Asking me what business a striker has with press doesn't make sense as regards Firmino as Firmino pinballs off the back of the opposing team's DM... He's not a box hunter... Example, I can remember Bayern vs Liverpool's 2019's champions league match in which he sat between Martinez and Thiago...Nobody could get the ball off him and I'm sure you know how hard Bayern presses... If you weren't referring to him being press resistant, I would assume you meant he can't hold up the ball and facilitate play which is also wrong...But I don't like this kinda arguments so I will leave you with your opinion on this... 1 Like
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 9:01pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
raumdeuter:Lewandowski has always been a no9 right from his polish days. He won the polish topscorer too... Same can't be said of firmino who was an attacking midfielder before klopp converted him into a false 9 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 9:02pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
weedtaker:Yes he did |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AnfieldFan: 9:05pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
kendrick93: I'm curious, if Bobby's jersey had another no., I wonder if he would still be called a Striker!! ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 9:07pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
raumdeuter:Not everyone will score 40goals.. Some have to sacrifice for the balance of the team.. We saw how benzema sacrificed his game for Ronaldo to keep doing what he does. Besides Salah & firmino are entirely different players with different skill sets task with performing different roles.. When Firmino drops back, Salah and Mane take turns to operate in that center as strikers.. It was that seamless dovetailing which made that Liverpool attack so deadly at their peak.. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 9:10pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
AnfieldFan:Abi.... Though Raumdeuter will cling on anything for his strawman arguments ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:19pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
AnfieldFan: Your Bayern example happens to be one of the worst Bayern setup in recent times under Kovac |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:21pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
kendrick93: Those are excuses given when a striker is not delivering, How come Klopp the moment an above average left winger who sabi score became available forgot about all these drop back drop side drop left that Firmino brings? Na from clap dance dey start, na bench now, soon he will be doing his dovetailing and Pigeontailing at Crystal palace |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:23pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
kendrick93: AnfieldFan: See Firminos postion, Na lack of productivity begin make his fans dey tell us long tori
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:25pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
AnfieldFan: Press resistance is usually associated with deeper lying players. Of course I meant hold up play. If Liverpool are camped in their half, can you play a long ball to him and he will win it and make it stick so the team can push up? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AnfieldFan: 9:37pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
Ibime: Bobby can hold up play and play the final pass...You know why, because he has an excellent first touch... You know your stuff when it comes to football, that's why I was surprised and had to get clarity from you.. Bobby can serve as an outlet when Liverpool need to cool the tempo...... |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 9:44pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
raumdeuter:Lol... I need to check the date of this to see if it falls under his slump time na |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 9:44pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Centre Defensive Forward, you mean? ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 9:50pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
izzou:Ehen, it's now that you come that I've understood you ![]() Me I'm not even hyping him sef cos I'm not sure I've called him among top 5 strikers in pl in recent times. What I'm just debunking is when people are saying he's useless in Liverpool's achievements, that's I'm mostly against. His style of play complemented Liverpool's play and system. Whether it will work in another team is another talk on its own 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 9:52pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
Jodera: It will not work. You know that ![]() God no go let Mane and Salah get reason to be unavailable for a long period for Liverpool. That's when you'll know that guy is very dispensable |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 9:54pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
AnfieldFan:Na people wey no dey watch him ball fit say Bobby useless. Good holdup play and ball control and first touch Good pressing and harrying of defenders Can pass, can wriggle his way under tight conditions. Excellent dribbler too He can't be easily bullied off the ball Create chances both in movement and passes. But he should be crucified cos Salah and mane scores more than him ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:55pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
Jodera: Everything but score. which is the main job of a center forward |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 9:56pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
raumdeuter: 70 goals in how many matches? Let's compare it with Lewandowski's ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 9:57pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
Jodera: A good striker is spotted by his numbers E reach Firminho turn, na good hold up play, can accelerate and decelerate, can turn left and reverse right ... Abeg ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 9:58pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
izzou:Salah sef. Na this mane wey him form dey deteriorate? Like I said earlier, he's lost form so I can't vouch for that. But if you bring a good winger (half as good as Salah with mane) and prime firmino with still klopp system, they'll still do well. This is more of a system and firmino is fitting into it instead of the Salah and mane individuality you people are raving about. Not taking anything away from Salah tho |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 9:59pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
izzou:Lol... Na you get your opinion na. ![]() I wonder why most of you wasn't sold on Abraham even with his good numbers? ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:00pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
airmark: Why don't we compare it to Firmino or Belotti or Giroud |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 10:01pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
raumdeuter:Nonsense talk...Dayo I repeat you nor know ball A sensible person will see that firmino like Thiago and fabinho had little to no preseason which why was he didn't start liverpool first few matches..the first important match against Chelsea they had the so called defensive striker also started where he got an hamstring which ruled him out of a few matches...He probably is not yet in peak condition which is why he is on the bench...a fit firmino starts anyday for Liverpool |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 10:03pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
raumdeuter:He's not a cf by default, he is an Am. He is just playing the "Cf" role as a link up to the main CFs(,Salah and mane). Check Liverpool of 2-3 seasons ago, firmino mostly arrive at the box last. Wen someone says he's not your usual striker but a system striker, na wetin we dey talk since. Real Liverpool fans knows all these 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:03pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
izzou: Abi oh. Na so we dey disguise when person no fit hit the barn door |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 10:04pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
Jodera:True!! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:06pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
Jodera: na failure of Firmino make am begin dey give all those excuses The Liverpool fans wey dey clamour for his removal and benching are not real ones they are fake ones When a striker is arriving the box last that is a problem Na how people go dey give excuses for Werner too say he dey hardworking make runs. like say na runs girl. Make he continue in that manner |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 10:06pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
Jodera: Tammy Abraham in EPL 19/20 season - 15 goals 20/21 - 6 goals This is the stats for a 24 year old, and you want people to be sold out on this? Or is there any other numbers Tammy has, that you'll like us to know? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 10:08pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
raumdeuter: They said he is not our usual striker ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 10:09pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
raumdeuter:Every role has different interpretations depending on the coach prefers... For example Figo was a winger and you could also call Neymar or Robben wingers but their roles are so so different on the pitch.. Figo was tasked to create primarily, while the likes of Neymar were to tasked to score and at the same time cause havoc thereby creating chances... Firmino is a not a pure no 9 like i will say again.. He was an attacking midfielder now converted into a false 9 sort of |
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