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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 10:11pm On Oct 05, 2021
raumdeuter:


The Liverpool fans wey dey clamour for his removal and benching are not real ones they are fake ones
You mean social media cult abi u don reach anfield wey dem tell u dat one...see d response of man utd fans when Bruno missed a penalty d other day and you'll think na regular thing for am...that a so called educated person like you will be using emotional response by a minority few on social media to represent a fan base is quite shameful..
not surprised tho as expected from an apari worshipper

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 10:12pm On Oct 05, 2021
izzou:


Tammy Abraham in EPL

19/20 season - 15 goals
20/21 - 6 goals

This is the stats for a 24 year old, and you want people to be sold out on this?

Or is there any other numbers Tammy has, that you'll like us to know?
He didn't play up to full season in 20/21 so I won't count that

His full season was 15goals and if he'd been taking you guys Pk like most strikers do, that's 19-20goals per season at least. How is that not a good return for a striker. Yet even with his 15 open play goals, only very few Chelsea fans were in support of him. And you know the reason for that

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:13pm On Oct 05, 2021
izzou:


They said he is not our usual striker grin


Like Werner, like GabJesus, like Martial, when Jota plants him frmly on the bench we will know if he is the usual bench warmer

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:14pm On Oct 05, 2021
CAPdan21:

You mean social media cult abi u don reach anfield wey dem tell u dat one...see d response of man utd fans when Bruno missed a penalty d other day and you'll think na regular thing for am...that a so called educated person like you will be using emotional response by a minority few on social media to represent a fan base is quite shameful..
not surprised tho as expected from an apari worshipper

Social media cult na him write am for club official website? Social media cult na him bench am in probably the most important game of the season in front of a full Anfield

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 10:16pm On Oct 05, 2021
raumdeuter:


na failure of Firmino make am begin dey give all those excuses
The Liverpool fans wey dey clamour for his removal and benching are not real ones they are fake ones
When a striker is arriving the box last that is a problem

Na how people go dey give excuses for Werner too say he dey hardworking make runs. like say na runs girl. Make he continue in that manner
Like I said, firmino during his prime have always been praised by both fans and pundits alike. You can't compare him with giroud and Werner whom fans curse week in week out.
Wen he slumped out of form, he was duly replaced. Simple!

I'm not talking about out of form here, I'm talking prime firmino in klopp system
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:16pm On Oct 05, 2021
kendrick93:
Every role has different interpretations depending on the coach prefers...
For example Figo was a winger and you could also call Neymar or Robben wingers but their roles are so so different on the pitch..
Figo was tasked to create primarily, while the likes of Neymar were to tasked to score and at the same time cause havoc thereby creating chances...
Firmino is a not a pure no 9 like i will say again..
He was an attacking midfielder now converted into a false 9 sort of

Figo was in winger in a 4-4-2. and like wingers of their time he wasnt required to score but to create like Beckham Scholl etc
Robben Salah Neymar are wing forwards in a 4-3-3 and are expected to score

Firmino is a 9 can you list other 9s in the current time that are not required to score like Firmino?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:19pm On Oct 05, 2021
Jodera:
Like I said, firmino during his prime have always been praised by both fans and pundits alike. You can't compare him with giroud and Werner whom fans curse week in week out.
Wen he slumped out of form, he was duly replaced. Simple!

I'm not talking about out of form here, I'm talking prime firmino in klopp system

All those prime Firmino was simply leeching off the work of Salah and Mane

Prime Firmino in 2018 was a benchwarmer for Brazil. Brazil played 4 matches a total of 360mins guess how many of these minutes did prime Firmino play? 81.
Guess who benched him? That is the funniest part of it
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 10:21pm On Oct 05, 2021
kendrick93:
Every role has different interpretations depending on the coach prefers...
For example Figo was a winger and you could also call Neymar or Robben wingers but their roles are so so different on the pitch..
Figo was tasked to create primarily, while the likes of Neymar were to tasked to score and at the same time cause havoc thereby creating chances...
Firmino is a not a pure no 9 like i will say again..
He was an attacking midfielder now converted into a false 9 sort of
Them just no wan gree. Them no know say even the games dey advance. Before hardly you see fullbacks having such assist like Arnold and Robertson nor midfield shorn of creativity. But at Liverpool that's how it's done all because that's the way klopp want it. But na firmino naim be the useless striker.

Simple question I ask dayo: Firmino was so useless and Liverpool needed cl and league, why didn't they replace him then? Esp as them dey buy other correct signings in other positions

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 10:22pm On Oct 05, 2021
raumdeuter:


Figo was in winger in a 4-4-2. and like wingers of their time he wasnt required to score but to create like Beckham Scholl etc
Robben Salah Neymar are wing forwards in a 4-3-3 and are expected to score

Firmino is a 9 can you list other 9s in the current time that are not required to score like Firmino?
He's a false 9 to be specific...
And yes he was incredibly important whether scoring or not..
Klopp affirms this too-

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 10:23pm On Oct 05, 2021
raumdeuter:


All those prime Firmino was simply leeching off the work of Salah and Mane

Prime Firmino in 2018 was a benchwarmer for Brazil. Brazil played 4 matches a total of 360mins guess how many of these minutes did prime Firmino play? 81.
Guess who benched him? That is the funniest part of it
where did that Brazil finish if I may ask and where did they finish in the following year Copa America when the coach rectified his mistake...even tite admitted after the world cup he made a mistake benching firmino...answer on a post card please

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 10:23pm On Oct 05, 2021
raumdeuter:


All those prime Firmino was simply leeching off the work of Salah and Mane

Prime Firmino in 2018 was a benchwarmer for Brazil. Brazil played 4 matches a total of 360mins guess how many of these minutes did prime Firmino play? 81.
Guess who benched him? That is the funniest part of it
You call it leeching, klopp calls it his system.

If he was so useless since 2016, why did it take klopp 5yrs to finally replace him. Esp since klopp needed the league and cl.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 10:26pm On Oct 05, 2021
raumdeuter:


Social media cult na him write am for club official website? Social media cult na him bench am in probably the most important game of the season in front of a full Anfield
Hope u used the same energy when newspaper carried iniesta record of no la liga goal contribution in an entire year...hope that makes iniesta useless, answers on a postcard please
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 10:26pm On Oct 05, 2021
raumdeuter:


All those prime Firmino was simply leeching off the work of Salah and Mane

Prime Firmino in 2018 was a benchwarmer for Brazil. Brazil played 4 matches a total of 360mins guess how many of these minutes did prime Firmino play? 81.
Guess who benched him? That is the funniest part of it
Using national team games as as standard to measure anything is nonsense..
Some great players hardly got selected by their countries..
Someone like Eric Cantona for example..
Of recently we have had guys like milito,
Even Marcelo and dani alves were hardly first choices for their countries throughout their careers
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 10:28pm On Oct 05, 2021
Jodera:
He didn't play up to full season in 20/21 so I won't count that

His full season was 15goals and if he'd been taking you guys Pk like most strikers do, that's 19-20goals per season at least. How is that not a good return for a striker. Yet even with his 15 open play goals, only very few Chelsea fans were in support of him. And you know the reason for that

And I ask you again if you would automatically be sold out on a 22 year old because he scored 15 EPL goals in one season?

A Yes, or a No, Monsieur? grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:29pm On Oct 05, 2021
kendrick93:
He's a false 9 to be specific...
And yes he was incredibly important whether scoring or not..
Klopp affirms this too-

When your manager starts giving affidavit about your performance. It shows that you are not doing it right. Football is visual, you dont have to be splitting hair to see performance. Does Klopp need to go to Radio Nigeria to sing about Salahs performance?

Klopp and Pep are not going to throw their current players under the bus like Mourinho, they will continue praising the player while finding alternatives

This was Klopp praising Karius while he was shipping him out
“A lot of people speak now about our improved defense and as good as Alisson was in the last three games, in most of the games when we were already really good and that he was not here, it was Loris in goal and he did a lot of good things,” Klopp continued.

“When I saw the Besiktas team, that’s a quite experienced team. I think they have a good chance to win the league in Turkey so that’s cool,” he further added.

Attached below is Klopp calling Lovren a Liverpool Legend. Even Lovrens mom knows that Klopp is lying to her son

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 10:29pm On Oct 05, 2021
iamoyindamola:

Tah
You also said Abraham is not good enough, also Haller
But firminho is good right, I'm just looking at you since raumdeuter is lecturing you
I still stand by my word on the bolded. Shey time go come I no go dey hear alert from you again from those two na? Na small small e dey start. Abraham own don start sef, ba make haller join am(even tho him dey weakest league).
But the good news is that I no go even remind you.

And yes, I love firmino than them. But Will I want firmino as our striker? No
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 10:30pm On Oct 05, 2021
Jodera:
Them just no wan gree. Them no know say even the games dey advance. Before hardly you see fullbacks having such assist like Arnold and Robertson nor midfield shorn of creativity. But at Liverpool that's how it's done all because that's the way klopp want it. But na firmino naim be the useless striker.

Simple question I ask dayo: Firmino was so useless and Liverpool needed cl and league, why didn't they replace him then? Esp as them dey buy other correct signings in other positions
exactly..
No team wins the CL and gets 97 & 99 league points carrying a 'useless player in attack'...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:30pm On Oct 05, 2021
CAPdan21:

where did that Brazil finish if I may ask and where did they finish in the following year Copa America when the coach rectified his mistake...even tite admitted after the world cup he made a mistake benching firmino...answer on a post card please

Where Brazil finished is unimportant, Brazil finished same stage as Argentina and ortugal with Messi and Ronaldo

The main thing is that Firmino was so good that he was benched by one of the most sterile strikers ever. If he was doing great at his so called peak, he wont be benched by Another fraudster
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:31pm On Oct 05, 2021
CAPdan21:

Hope u used the same energy when newspaper carried iniesta record of no la liga goal contribution in an entire year...hope that makes iniesta useless, answers on a postcard please

Iniesta was a midfielder not an attacker. I am sure people who started watching football last week knew this
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 10:32pm On Oct 05, 2021
izzou:


And I ask you again if you would automatically be sold out on a 22 year old because he scored 15 EPL goals in one season?

A Yes, or a No, Monsieur? grin
in league alone for a 22 yr old guy? Big yes, esp if he has good attributes.
Big no if all he does is just poach in goals only like Abraham

I'll take an Ollie Watkins over Abraham and I'm dead certain Ollie Watkins haven't scored up to 15 league goals

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:32pm On Oct 05, 2021
kendrick93:

Using national team games as as standard to measure anything is nonsense..
Some great players hardly got selected by their countries..
Someone like Eric Cantona for example..
Of recently we have had guys like milito,
Even Marcelo and dani alves were hardly first choices for their countries throughout their careers

Players not getting called up for personal reasons is different (A coach dropping a player he doesnt like is different)
Players getting benched by better players is different (If Salah and Messi are competing for the same spot one of them might get benched)

Firmino getting benched going to a world cup by Gabriel Jesus is comical
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 10:33pm On Oct 05, 2021
raumdeuter:


Where Brazil finished is unimportant, Brazil finished same stage as Argentina and ortugal with Messi and Ronaldo

The main thing is that Firmino was so good that he was benched by one of the most sterile strikers ever. If he was doing great at his so called peak, he wont be benched by Another fraudster
Wow so winning an international trophy as the joint top scorer is no longer important... alagolo boathand in the mud...u are a shame to aparisports

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 10:34pm On Oct 05, 2021
raumdeuter:


When your manager starts giving affidavit about your performance. It shows that you are not doing it right. Football is visual, you dont have to be splitting hair to see performance. Does Klopp need to go to Radio Nigeria to sing about Salahs performance?

Klopp and Pep are not going to throw their current players under the bus like Mourinho, they will continue praising the player while finding alternatives

This was Klopp praising Karius while he was shipping him out


Attached below is Klopp calling Lovren a Liverpool Legend. Even Lovrens mom knows that Klopp is lying to her son
Same Klopp was quick to discard karius like a used tissue paper the first chance he got..
Lol....
Firmino was an undisputed starter for klopp for four/five seasons, winning the biggest club trophies along the way with firmino as one of his integral players...
You are not making any sense here...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 10:35pm On Oct 05, 2021
raumdeuter:


Iniesta was a midfielder not an attacker. I am sure people who started watching football last week knew this
An attacking midfielder with no goal contribution na wetin...na suegbe

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:36pm On Oct 05, 2021
CAPdan21:

Wow so winning an international trophy as the joint top scorer is no longer important... alagolo boathand in the mud...u are a shame to aparisports

Which international trophy did Firmino win as top scorer?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:37pm On Oct 05, 2021
CAPdan21:

An attacking midfielder with no goal contribution na wetin...na suegbe

Like I said everyone who watched football for more than a week knows Iniesta is a central midfielder

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:37pm On Oct 05, 2021
raumdeuter:


Why don't we compare it to Firmino or Belotti or Giroud

They didnt play as many games as Benzema did for the best teams in France and Madrid then.

So it's fair to compare Benzema and Lewa. Now run it up. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 10:38pm On Oct 05, 2021
Jodera:
in league alone for a 22 yr old guy? Big yes, esp if he has good attributes.
Big no if all he does is just poach in goals only like Abraham

I'll take an Ollie Watkins over Abraham and I'm dead certain Ollie Watkins haven't scored up to 15 league goals

You brought Abraham as a comparison.

I showed you his stats and asked if you would be sold out with that. The same you have found a way to tell us why you would not buy the Tammy's agenda that you brought forward.

Wonderful grin

This is not the first time Klopp does this. He accommodates you till he finds a replacement, then he relegates you to the bench, and then you leave. In all of these, he keeps praising you endlessly grin

I hope Firminho finds his way to Arsenal, so he can link up your forwards. Since na him calling be that grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:39pm On Oct 05, 2021
kendrick93:

Same Klopp was quick to discard karius like a used tissue paper the first chance he got..
Lol....
Firmino was an undisputed starter for klopp for four/five seasons, winning the biggest club trophies along the way with firmino as one of his integral players...
You are not making any sense here...

While Klopp waited and the moment he saw an above average left winger who knows how to score a little, Firmino is in the battling with the bench

Shebi Karius was even benched by Allison a world record, abeg who sent Firmino to bench? Jota who is a winger
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:40pm On Oct 05, 2021
airmark:


They didnt play as many games as Benzema did for the best teams in France and Madrid then.

So it's fair to compare Benzema and Lewa. Now run it up. grin

Firmino is a Brazilian, Belotti is an Italian, Giroud is French all top footballing nations like Benzema
How come we cannot compare their records?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 10:40pm On Oct 05, 2021
raumdeuter:


Like I said everyone who watched football for more than a week knows Iniesta is a central midfielder
all dat one na shalaye...person wey still play left attack for Barca sometimes had no goal contribution u dey turn Amala... I'm sure even "spineless" busquets scored a goal or two during that period...how u wan take collect your L??
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:46pm On Oct 05, 2021
raumdeuter:


Firmino is a Brazilian, Belotti is an Italian, Giroud is French all top footballing nations like Benzema
How come we cannot compare their records?

Let's expose the bag of beans.

Karim Benzema plays the position Forward, is 33 years old.
In the current club Real Madrid played 13 seasons, during this time he played 590 matches and scored 285 goals.


Robert Lewandowski plays the position Forward, is 33 years old and 185cm tall, weights 79kg.
In the current club Bayern Munich played 9 seasons, during this time he played 349 matches and scored 306 goals.

grin grin grin grin

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