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Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by AlexBells(m): 10:09pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
I had always wanted to carry so many people along and I understand, this is a faceless forum for many but for me it is different, We started Igbo province for quite a while now and I want a joint force with the rest of us here. I want us to adopt Igbo province as a traditional government of the Igbo nation, so many mistakes was made in the past that need to be corrected, getting Biafra is not an issue it is the mode of asking for it thats the issue, a time will come when strict reasoning would be prioritised. In the past Igbos had taken risk for others, Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu took the risk for the Middle belt and West but he was never appreciated, Biafra declaration was illegal both Ojukwu and Gowon and all the Military heads of states where illegal. When declaring Biafra he had no such right but be that as it may, declaring Biafra under a Military regime is nothing but a call to war, the military speaks only one Language which is war. Biafran declaration or leaving Nigeria is a political situation not a Military situation, I bet if Zik or Premier Michael Okpara asked to leave Nigeria it could have been Smooth, but before the coup and the civil war there was no need or desire to leave Nigeria becuase everything was going well for the East. We have a bright chance as I had spoken to so many legal luminaries, Military men and women and politicians as well, I can't take the credit alone but we are stronger together, let's come together rebuild Igbo province not the old Eastern region and focus on our lands. Then if our people want out of Nigeria we would seek political solution to it, this is not a military situation but our parents in the mainstream can't do much, let's play our part continued militarization of this situation would only be more costly. Even if we have to seek Military solutions, it would still be better if we have a traditional province that would make friends within Nigeria, we have many allies who would work with us as Igbo people. IPOB is a great body but they are working with the old Biafran template and we had tried to bring unity between them and our politicians to no Avail, so we need to do something, the polititian is not even the problem, so many Igbos are still in the Nigerian military and the Military is the real binding wire of this country not the politician except the presidency. Let's come together and work for a goal, we give so much free tips everyday but we can all write our name in marbles by fronting Igbo province, we are the one who can remove this distrust between both sides of our people serving Biafra and our people serving Nigeria, no one have to be a saboteur nor rebels, we should all come together as one Igbo people we are the only ones we got. On my own, power is interesting but absolute power is dangerous, I don't want to be a life premier if we work together once the system is strong and stable, we would introduce an electoral process and an encompassing constitution where any qualified Igbo would be free to contest for positions. I don't see why we should continue clamouring for old Eastern region when Igbo province would give us Anioma which used to be Midwest, if you noticed I don't use to be as aggressive as I used to be becuase the problem is quite complex and it is only when we come together to look deeper that we can solve. Please, I'm pleading once again even if you don't want to take active part in this, recognise Igbo province and support us by using it in your publications, we already have an offline base especially in Enugu. Slayerforever Bkayy Eastlink Nwanyiogwashi Igboid 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by DOTian: 10:16pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
Restless folks desperate to caliberate and disorganize the SE just to loot oil.. Another clever trap by the Afonja to force Igbo to accept the federal Nigeria created hinterlands. It has been agreed that Biafra is for all willing members from the SE and SS. If any ethnic group wants to join the fulani, they're free. Those trying to make it look like succes is guaranteed once igbos accept the 5 SE states created by some idiotic northern officers are just clever by half. There is no part of Nigeria that has a total agreement on who joins any emerging states from there. Even the SW and the North! So why the fuss? 9 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by Homeboiy: 10:18pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
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Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by FallenShitHole: 10:19pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
OP, stop your mumuism and go and join the nearest IPOB family to you. 3 Likes |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by AlexBells(m): 10:21pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
DOTian:I don't think you understood me, I'm not against Biafra, I'm saying the mode of asking for it had been dangerous from the time of Ojukwu, MI Okpara was alive, Zik was alive, if Gowon refused to step down as the Head of the supreme Military council, Ojukwu could have done what IPOB is doing today which is counter command but it all happened too fast and he was young and much rush of adrenaline. Old Eastern Region don't include midwest which have the Anioma stock of Igbos, even if we opt for Biafra isn't an Igbo only Biafra an option and then if we want Biafra why would people have to die when there are peaceful ways to actualize it 1 Like |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by AlexBells(m): 10:24pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
FallenShitHole:Joining IPOB is never an issue, the issue is that militarization of the process is not the best and IPOB is currently not working with the politicians and you need the Senate to amend the constitution to include referendum, Buhari trying to conduct a referendum for Biafra would be treason on his side, it is only until the constitution is amended unless we are ready to make Nigeria a completely failed state and then I ask is it worth that much blood, especially when there are peaceful solutions 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by AlexBells(m): 10:26pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
FallenShitHole:I'm not blaming Ojukwu, he was a soldier and there is only one way soldiers attend to things but I can assure you that if it was Nnamdi Kanu in position of Ojukwu in 1967, Kanu could have gotten Biafra using his current counter command approach. 1 Like |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by rottennaija(m): 10:26pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
DOTian:Who agreed that Biafra is for all willing members of SE and SS? Who? 1 Like |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by ozoebuka1(m): 10:27pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
When the cunning sugar-coats something it sounds appealing to the wise and the foolish... But the wise will always refuse to be carried away by the euphoria of the lies while the foolish joins the bandwagon. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by BigSarah(f): 10:29pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
Alexbells, Igboid, Eastlink and maybe horsepower. Are the only realistic Igbos on Nairaland... You can't be Pro-Biafra and then decide to be deluded. When the Igbos in the SS look at the results or gains of IPOB in the SE does it look attractive? Or something to join? It's failure. IPOB should truly understand And Be civil. With IPOB style this agitation can last 20yrs and still no Biafra and the Maltreatment On the SE will get worse.. The more IPOB fails the worse it gets for the SE.. IPOB should stop failing or they should stop trying. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by AlexBells(m): 10:34pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
BigSarah:The thing is that they are not more passionate about Biafra, I am passionate about Biafra but we can't keep doing the same thing and expecting different results, Today, Nigeria spends loads of money in buying weapons used to kill fellow Nigerians while Biafra developed rockets in 1967. Do they think that we are happy that our rocket systems are frozen while the country spends tons to buy inferior weapons, money that could have been used to build hospitals and the rest of the amenities, I'm passionate about Biafra but the mode of asking for it is quite complex and costly. 1 Like |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by DOTian: 10:42pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
AlexBells: What are the peaceful ways? You guys like to look at serious issues from an utopian perspective. There are no peaceful ways. The fulani took control of the Army since 1966, with the help of the rest of Nigeria and has made trillions of dollars from Oil and gas sales coming from Biafra. They're not going to let go without a fight because you're about to take their hungry mouths off their feeding bottle. Even the Yorubas that get only crumbs are so satisfied with that they are ready to join the fulani for another round of fights in the East. That's the sad reality you have to take cognizance of, otherwise you will make mistakes. If you want separation from Nigeria, you have to prepare for a confrontation. It's that straightforward. The earlier folks start to lobby the big powers in this regard, the better.. 2 Likes |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by kollinz1234(m): 10:44pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
Thanks@op, you have a good thought but permit me to say some few things; 1. Freedom is never freely given, especially by the migrants from the Sahara (fulanis) whom believe that "the country NIGERIA, should be seen as a conquered territory of Uthman Dan fodio......" 2. Unarmed approach has been used by the igbos since early 2000s from the days of Uwazuruike's MASSOB, to as recent as 2018 but all that was given to peaceful agitators were harsh treatments of deaths and torture (see the operation python dance) and the world kept mute. 3. The bitter pill to swallow is that if we want Biafra in a peaceful way, we will never achieve biafra, not with the uncivilized Fulani government or the cunning yorubas. We must keep fighting to the point that Nigeria will get exhausted due to the cost of war and do the needful. Lastly. The executive in Nigeria controls the national assembly; so no matter what, the national assembly will never include referendum in the constitution, no matter what. (Else they would have started by implementing the 2014 confab report) 2 Likes |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by AlexBells(m): 10:48pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
DOTian:It must not be peaceful but it can be non violent, we can trade war Rhetorics but no single shot have to be fired, that's only happens when you have real capacity to do mass damages, Ojukwu declared Biafra too soon, right now we have no weapons, if Ojukwu sent in the RAP team first while negotiations go on with the rest we could have started the war with the Ogbunigwe, which could have been carried along on the match to Lagos, this is what we are saying too much propaganda no real agenda. If we have to fight again both sides should count damages, the East fought for three years with no real non combatants damages on the other sides, let's buy time, AK47 don't win wars, so since we are not prepared for war lets build within |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by AlexBells(m): 10:52pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
kollinz1234:Don't insult the collective power of the Igbo nation by using the word giving freedom, freedom from who, a fellow black tribe, lol, By the time they see real might they would all go back to begging for the secession clause like Ahmedu Bellow, Tafawa and Awolowo, you think this generation of Igbos are freedom fighters, we are slave raiders, no man ever subjugated the Igbo nation and not in our generation, I don't fight for freedom, I'm no slave, we should run it in our terms that's all I'm saying 1 Like |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by DOTian: 10:54pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
AlexBells: Nobody is talking of war. Not even IPOB. I have not heard them talk of planning to declare wars. Maybe self defense. But certainly not wars. Wars are no childs play. But wars when brought to your doorsteps must be fought. The reality of life is like that. You don't fight because you want to fight. Someone whos pugnacious enough might force war on you by bringing the fight to your doorsteps, which is what the Fulani herdsmen are doing today. That said, folks must understand that in Buhari, we are dealing with a chronic Igbo hater who believes strongly that the Igbo symbolizes a great threat to Fulani expansionist agenda in Nigeria. If you fail to appreciate the great threat and danger that Buhari presents to Ndigbo, you will make the dangerous mistake of underating the problem at hand.. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by SlayerForever: 11:00pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
We're not in regional government. 1 Like |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by AlexBells(m): 11:02pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
DOTian:In the time of peace prepare for war, Nigeria is just like European union nothing else, a formal union of so many countries so if you are asking for Biafra and you are not even ready for war what do you think, do you think it a play around here. Forget Fulanis you guys are the ones glorifying them, where were they when Zik was arguing for independence, where were they when the Igbos were fighting the Colonialists. I think the war made everyone forget their place, it is time to show everyone their place, you guys makes me really disappointed, a nation that dissects, build technologies glorifying a nomadic tribe is the real case of mental slavery. Men we built rockets in 67, modified fighter jets back then, one on one with Fulanis they know their Mates, look I don't want to say things that would really upset Nigeria but they knew Ojukwu was not ready for war and if Nzeogwu was the governor of the East, Gowon and the North and indeed the entire Nigeria would be too scared to try taking power from the center just that way. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by AlexBells(m): 11:03pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
SlayerForever:Yes but we can have a traditional government if we wanted |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by paramakina202: 11:08pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
kollinz1234: So is IPOB prepared to defeat Nigeria army in a conventional warfare?That is the only route to Biafra actualisation.If you can't then don't try because war is not sports rather it is costly and ndi Igbo can't afford to fight another unprepared war that will end in another humiliating surrender.IPOB should buy jet fighters and armoured Tanks then I will enlist in the Biafra liberation army. |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by CandyOps(m): 11:15pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
The documents that binds Nigeria officially as a nation made it clear that the union between the north and southern sides only lasts for 100 years. 1914 - 2014. Meaning that the entity called Nigeria is null and void at the moment. I really think what we should be focused on is transition of government into the separate regions that want out of Nigeria. The problem is our reps are talking from both sides of their mouth and like the OP said this can only be achieved if presented properly. I see people of other tribes make rude remarks like "they think they'll be better than Nigeria" And it hurts because they don't seem to understand that no progress is equal to dying.. Oil can change your life forever if you use the proceeds well. It's not rocket science. It's buying and selling. The funds for you and I and our future are just being stolen and if you complain you get the rod. The world runs on oil. And we sell oil. So if we can't account for our oil sales then we're just plain reckless. I'm tired of living this way when we can afford better. I'm glad you understand the power of the military in holding a govt in shape. So you also understand why the UGM are striking. We need to have a proper referendum and present our case If not things will never Wchange |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by Igboid: 11:15pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
Biafra is a political problem that will require a political solution. IPOB have been told this umpteen times, but their brainwashing is permanent. The only alternative is outright war. But is IPOB ready for a war? The answer is No! They rush and cite Tigray warriors in Ethiopia, but the fighters in that place are also Political office holders. IPOB has not conquered the SE but she wants to square off with NIGERIA. They have no Political power in SE, but want power through anarchy and barrels of gun, and when NIGERIA responds, they rush to hide behind Igbo civilians as body shield and start tagging Amnesty, UN, etc. IPOB has no viable strategy. Atleast they have not shown any so far. 4 Likes |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by AlexBells(m): 11:25pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
Igboid:I would want us to give IPOB and indeed the entire Biafrans the due respect, Nnandi Kanu especially apart from his choice of words had reawaken the Igbo spirit, for instance when he was on radio Biafra he fought for the Igbos, because I don't see why he should make us realise that Oyigbo is actually Obigbo since both Obigbo and Oyigbo would have been Biafra you would realise from here that Kanu was indeed an Igbo man so let's not be so judgemental becuase IPOB serves some great inspirations and we could as well not repeat mistakes 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by afube: 11:57pm On Oct 05, 2021 |
Igboid: With due respect I totally disagree with you, you sound like that there is only one party to this feud ( i.e. IPOB) but indeed there is one other party...which is the Fulani Government in Abuja led by a very belligerent Buhari............. If IPOB decides to stop the agitation today, is Buhari ready to stop his Fulani onslaught on the aboriginal populations of the Middle belt and southeast? I doubt it...you seem to discount the potent existential threat of the closet jihadists in Abuja. |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by AlexBells(m): 12:08am On Oct 06, 2021 |
afube:I don't agree with IPOB on their posture on the Fulanis, first of all, When IPOB speaks about Fulanisation that's not a threat to the Igbos that's a propaganda of which IPOB made the same mistakes the Past Igbos had been making which was being our brothers keeper. Fulanisation or Islamization shoukd be a middle belt/Western threats, IPOB deliberately tried to awaken the middle belt and west against the Fulanis and that was his greatest mistakes, I can categorically tell you that the Fulanis and indeed the entire North can not subjugate the Igbos nation. We must not forget that The Biafran war was lead by Yakubu Gowon and the food blockade adviced by Awolowo, indeed during the war, the Fulanis was shocked by the death of Ahmedu Bellow and Tafawa Ballawa that they couldn't fight back, it was these same people that Kanu is calling to join the sit at home that attacked us, the Fulanis was down at the time. Fast forward to today the Fulanis attack on Igbo soil is pure terrorism, even pure breed Fulanis are worried that their terrorists are inviting the wrath of the Igbos and they know we can speak to them beyond the language they can understand, IPOB had impacted the psyche of the Fulanis they are deep down scared of the Igbos and IPOB and Kanu did not help the matters. It is just that since the coup and civil war the relationship between the Igbos and the North had detonated as for Buhari, he is not quite an effective person in governance so we should go a little easy on him, he is not fully in charge, even he is too scared keeping Nnamdi Kanu now, forget the strong posture, Ahmedu bello showed more stronger posture so let's go easy on the Fulanis they respect their elders. |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by Nobody: 12:09am On Oct 06, 2021 |
Nobody serves Biafra. It simply doesn’t exist, stop being delusional…WAKE UP! and face reality. |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by AlexBells(m): 12:10am On Oct 06, 2021 |
kingawothefirst:Many people serve Biafra, you would be living in denial if you really think no one does |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by Elliot2(m): 12:13am On Oct 06, 2021 |
BigSarah:Carry your madness comot here |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by Nobody: 12:16am On Oct 06, 2021 |
AlexBells: How do you serve Biafra and you are here posting on Nairaland with a Nigerian passport, spending Nigerian currency. Are you okay at all? There are real issues that you should be addressing not some fantasy utopia in a dreamworld. You might as well be serving fantasy island. What a waste of time and worse of all waste of lives chasing wind. 1 Like |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by banom(m): 12:19am On Oct 06, 2021 |
AlexBells: Bro after reading what you wrote I got more confused. I didn't even understand where you are heading to. I guess you are trying to bring confusion into Biafran struggle. Your write up shows dangerous ignorance and out of touch with reality. |
Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by Idiko1: 12:21am On Oct 06, 2021 |
AlexBells: I urge you to think before making open declaration. On whose law book is declaration of Biafra by a military governor illegal? |
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