12large1:


With Victor Moses we won an ANC on his first try and totally annihilated Algeria and cameroun on the way to 2018 World Cup. Please, respect that man

Kog45:
....make dem just give me Nwakili abi na Nwobodo or make we kuku bring Mikel back abi wetin be issue.

No calmness in eagles midfield again abi no be the same eagles that produced Henry Nwosu,Etim Esin,Jay jay Okocha,Wilson Oruma,James Obiorah,Duke Udi,Emma Ebiede,Christian Obodo,Thompson Oliha,Mutiu Adepoju and Mikel Obi.

Doctor I don tire.

Kog45:
....make dem just give me Nwakili abi na Nwobodo or make we kuku bring Mikel back abi wetin be issue.

No calmness in eagles midfield again abi no be the same eagles that produced Henry Nwosu,Etim Esin,Jay jay Okocha,Wilson Oruma,James Obiorah,Duke Udi,Emma Ebiede,Christian Obodo,Thompson Oliha,Mutiu Adepoju and Mikel Obi.

Doctor I don tire.

charlesemeka85:
thesupernerd Dey type 2 long note of analysis of the match to post

Wait for him small

Mickael2:


Not necessarily sure we used all these excuses to defend Keshi back in the days, fact is, the blame rests squarely with the Coach, if you haven't been paid and you don't want to perform then resign and the pitch excuse, come on! We've played in worse before, not as if the nonsense long balls we were playing today even needed a good pitch anyways.

First football match watched in exactly 18months and Rohr decided to bless me with this

TheSuperNerd:



Who send you?? Who Mike??


Ladies and Gentlemen, here is ANOTHER REASON (Albeit Non-tactical) why we lost against CAR.

The day you decide to watch The Super Eagles live, and after 18 months again. We lost! Please stay away from our game on Sunday ooooo

Joebie:
Invite every Tom Dick and Harry to this team, as long as the coach is Rohr, we will continue to play boringly and never get it right as a team.

Kog45:
Oga joebie I tire o

edi287:
Abeg make Rohr fanboys pack well!! Dude has been praised when he did well and rightly criticized when he hasn't.
Today this dude was outclassed. Say what you want but CAR came with a plan which they executed perfectly.
I had a feeling they were going to score when Rohr took out Aribo and left Onyeka all alone in midfield. Musa had a decent Cameo but why play him as a 10? Why bring him into a situation where there was no space to operate?
We were there for the taking after Rohr's dumb substitutions and paid for it!!
Dude is playing 4-4-2 with the players he invited smh. We should've switched formation as soon as Iheanacho got substituted. There was no need for Awoniyi - Osimhen pairing in this game.
Rohr is obviously not going to get sacked. He'll stay till the end of the qualifiers and even AFCON. After that, we need to ask serious of not just Rohr but Pinnick and the whole NFF.

Kog45:
That saved alone showed that the guy is better than Okoye

TheSuperNerd:
Why our attack struggled: Osimhen, Iheanacho (sub: Awoniyi), Simon and Ejuke.

Before I state why we struggled... let's have a small recap.

The game ended 0-1 and WE DIDN'T HAVE A SINGLE SHOT ON TARGET. WE didn't really trouble the CAR GK at all. What does that say?

It says many things. One is that our attack was rendered impotent.

But we did have a few chances. Most were half-Chances and none of these chances were created by our midfield. Bcoz our midfield created absolutely NOTHING.

The whole creative burden fell on the Wingers and the hustles of the strikers feeding off the scraps in the final third. And CAR knew we would use the wings. So they doubled up on our wingers making it hard to get through as often as we would have liked.

But we did on a few occasions through Osimhen's pace setting up Awoniyi twice but we couldn't get the goal. Awo tried because those chances weren't exactly clear cut. They were chances worked out via the industry of Osimhen.

Awo had another chance aerially which fell kindly for him from the right wing. An Aina cross but he didn't connect strongly.

But Our best chance of the game came via the creative genius of Ejuke who kept daring and probing to make something happen all game.

Ejuke cutting in, twisting on the ball, scanning any openings eventually found one and fed Osimhen in the second half and Osimhen took it in his stride to hit a strike that somehow rebounded off the post and fell for Awoniyi who couldn't finish. That was also a half chance and yep we couldn't convert.


Osimhen had his turns twice. One from a header which he didn't direct properly even though under pressure.

And another from a strike he mustered on his own from a quick turn using his weaker foot. It was close but not on target.

Simon Moses tried all he could to get some crosses in but they just weren't working.

Kelechi Iheanacho had one half and while he got a few good touches in and had a few attempts to make something happen, there was a sense of disconnect between himself and his attacking partners. He was neither here or there with respect to his role behind the striker. He is not one to interpret the #10 role properly because he is actually a hybrid. A Support Striker and a forward who can play off another forward.



But why did our attack really struggle?

It's simple. The Midfield failed going forward. And these are the connections...

▶️Our wings were the supposed source of creative potentials but it was cut off due to resolute strategic defending and a deep defensive block set-up by the CAR tactician.
They doubled up on our wingers reducing any chances of major creative actions from both sides in our favour. Ejuke did get through once or twice but that was it.

▶️With the wings cut off, the midfield didn't step up to the creative plate. We laboriously moved the ball about without any true penetrative passing or Lines-breaking passing moment. No quick transitions... No intense or swift switch of plays which normally should have cracked the organizational wall of the CAR defensive blocks.

▶️With the Wings cut off and the Midfield practically creating nothing in terms of Forward passing or Lines-breaking passing or tempo plays, the attack got cut off from supply, and it left the likes of Osimhen feeding off the scraps by dropping off to the channels a few times to use his pace and ball carrying ability to get forward and try make something happen. Could have worked as he created two chances but it didn't in the end.

This also caused Awoniyi to drop deeper to link up the play and still having to run back into the final third to try connect with or finish off any Attacking move in offensive transitions.

Our attackers were starved and overworked all because we had a Zero-Creativity and Poor Ball playing Midfield.


▶️Our attack will continue to suffer until we get the right midfield balance.

In a three man midfield, the right balance will always have:

1. The CAM (Creative hub) that operates between the lines in the space between the DMF and the CBs of the opposition. We have that in Iwobi.
Akinkunmi Amoo is one for the future in this role as well.

2. The CDM (Defensive shield) that holds the midfield and acts as the base of stability, composure, calm and solidity in front of the defence. He is the World Class Shield of the Middle game. We have that in Ndidi. Backup could be Onyeka.

3. The Ball Playing Central Midfield dictator (CM) who orchestrates the team's plays, dictates the tempo and effortlessly links midfield and attack in smooth transitions. He lines-break with his passing, deliver forward passes from deep, switches play at will with long balls and Vision and also contributes defensive shifts that complement the CDM while also offering creativity that complements the CAM.
Lads such as Alhassan Yusuf, Kelechi Nwakali, Ovie Ejaria and one or two others fit the bill soundly, technically and tactically.


Our midfield needs this balance.... BADLY.

Even In a 4-4-2, a CDM and Ball playing CM works just as well. You just have to get the personnel right.


This is why our attack struggled. And it is all Rohr's fault. He has never addressed this anomaly in our Middle game.


We boast only Midfield Runners, Workrate Merchants, box to box midfield operators with not much ball playing nous, and defensive MF walls.... but we lack the one piece that completes our Midfieled. That piece is a Ball playing, high technical Midfield dictator with top passing ability that line-breaks, oils the wheels of our passing game and directs the tempo


If I can see this, analyse this and be proven right time and time again in our games most especially this one we lost quite badly, then what in the hell and the heavens is Rohr doing? We have a huge midfield problem and it needs to be fixed. And Only the right personnel can solve this.

Danielnino00:


Why don't you drop the stats for that year and compare that of Ndidi with other DMs?

Did I say Moses was Chelsea player that year? I said he was an important member of the squad... You can't deny that fact cus it was made clear! Iwobi was starting games for arsenal... All that support your logic of having players in top teams, so why are you trying to run away from it?
Your darling Rohr was presented with an opportunity to send a tired Argentina home and clinch the round of 16 ticket,but in the usual fashion,he bottled it...

Trash talk the players all you want...after this international break,they will return to their clubs and churn out decent performance...Then by November,your darling Rohr will gather them again and make them play inshallah football...

jihday:
I’m just happy it wasn’t Okoye in goal, I can only imagine what y’all will be saying if he was the one in goal

Danielnino00:


The long throw ins continued into the second half ..Since they proved inefficient, Rohr should have told them to stop... but it continued... So it's either Rohr didn't have the balls to tell them to stop it or it was his instructions..

But you see, normally long balls and long throw ins are tactics some teams employ when they are facing superior opponents...Our style of play in both halves was just the same..Rohr made CAR look superior...

Barryseal:

We both know you won't get it right. The country is a poorly named, inconsequential African country.

TheGoodJoe:


You think Gavi who is 17 and playing from Spain is not getting development Working with Enrique in the national team?

Meliforme:


Balogun, Akpoguma are defenders you can trust to make good passes that will enable a building from the back.

Ebuehi is a ball carrying fullback.

TheGoodJoe:


Stop arguing something you don't know. Why do you think Manchester United signed Maguire?

Please next time sit down and watch Manchester United play. Count if they are just clearing the ball or building from the back.

Please read below and stop arguing this kind of thing.

Nostradamus1:


https://www.nairaland.com/871307/official-manchester-united-fan-thread/10853#105968626

Pls go to Nairaland man utd thread and ask the question. Also use Reddit and Twitter as the info was trashed some weeks back. Build up is not when ur defenders can pass ball forward sire,.

You can watch man united last 4 games and see them hump the ball forward once under pressure.



Pls man united fans in the house, talk true ogh

TheGoodJoe:


Please know from today that Italy is now a possession based football team under Mancini. Building from the back is a big part of possession football.

Theflint1:
Rohr should have been sacked after the 2018 World Cup. He setup the team to lose in all three games we played and we were rightly bundled out. What irked me the most was him not knowing how to frustrate the Argentines with time-wasting subs close to end of the game. Told myself unless Rohr was sacked, I was done with Super Eagles. His downward decline is no surprise.

Nostradamus1:


https://www.nairaland.com/871307/official-manchester-united-fan-thread/10853#105968626

Pls go to Nairaland man utd thread and ask the question. Also use Reddit and Twitter as the info was trashed some weeks back. Build up is not when ur defenders can pass ball forward sire,.

You can watch man united last 4 games and see them hump the ball forward once under pressure.



Pls man united fans in the house, talk true ogh

typicalgamer:



As if you can do any better ! As head coach.

You’re the one running away from your own statement, I checked and ndidi got nothing on kante a dm Fernandinho that year.

Just agree and take the word players so what they are average at best, none of them is a superstar.

No blame coach if aina can’t cross, even if his life depended on it.

No contradict yourself oga, rohr is not top tier so are our players too.

Nostradamus1:

Is the bonded a guaranty?
Then why do lots of people cry when Rohr starts Akpoguma?

Why do you all call complain about Balogun being this and that if you are more interested in silk football than winning?

BTW, I wonder how only 3 players in our team of " multi talented world class degrees " can be comfortable mentioned to build from back.

Nostradamus1:
Hope u are not turning to paper/blog coach . Watch football games and u will see my point. They don't patiently pass the ball from back to front to create chances when pressurized.


Bonnucvi and Chellini will be hoofing the ball up. Emerson and his colleagues will be running through the wings as if chased by ghost . Jorginho is a reputable pass back master ( Nairaland chelsea thread can do justice)


Italy doesn't build from back and majority of their goals In their last 2 tournaments are from counters

TheGoodJoe:


I don't know Amunike from Jupiter but I will give you my reason for his pick.

I believe wholeheartedly in possessive offensive football. My top two coaches today are Guardiola and Enrique who play it in fantastic form. A lot of teams are adopting it and if you don't your team will get left behind.

So Amunike knows the art inside out. Played the system at Barcelona, trained in coaching under the same philosophy.

So he remains my favorite pick. Finidi stays second because he played the system under Van Gaal in Ajax and did his coaching training in Spain under the system.

We have not grown an inch when it comes to football play. People just celebrate results that we have passed long time ago.