Subzero047:


If he doesn't have the stamina to be a midfielder where did he get the stamina to be a forward? The term support striker is just an excuse for him not to do the primary function of a striker (pressing, holdup play and leading the line) and the job of a midfielder (defensive contribution and ball holding) that's why there are very few support strikers nowadays

There has always been an 8 in the history of football. Dennis berghamp of arsenal is an epitome of that position

Sportilitica:

I wonder why Nacho is always a subject of discussion. Dude is playing well at the moment and will be used by most coaches if not all in Africa.
I believe there is a reason for concern as we are not organised as a team. We have players but definitely not a team.
This is why I am not happy as after 5 years in charge, I see no pattern.
Some of the other groups might not be this forgiving.
I think we are feeling too comfortable as we believe we will just qualify.
Next round might just expose us badly if nothing is done.
Either sack the coach or get him a sound technical assistant

All I know Iheanacho is the best finisher in eagles but his rightful position in the team has been an issue.

I thought Rohr should just go back to Iheanacho clips under Pelkegrin even Guardiola and see how to use this guy.

I remember Iheanacho performance against Zambia and Argentina under the same Rohr and it was awesome.

...but with the emergent of Osimehn,Onuachu,Moffi,Awoniyi and very soon Sadiq Umar ...Rohr must find a way of utilizing Iheanacho.

I remember how Westerhoff paraded Yekini,Amokachie and Siasia at US94,starting first three matches except the match against Italy.

Rohr is just the issue.

Subzero047:


Best finisher this, best finisher that how many did he finish yesterday? What justifies playing a 3-5-2 (a) an ultra defensive formation (b) playing natural wingers like Ejuke as wingbacks thereby removing the natural flair which is a trademark of the SE team (c) playing players like Aribo in a double pivot just to accommodate one person

Haba!

If he had gotten one those awoniyi chances, it would had been a goal. You put striker in midfield and you’re asking “why e no convert chances”

Subzero047:


Best finisher this, best finisher that how many did he finish yesterday? What justifies playing a 3-5-2 (a) an ultra defensive formation (b) playing natural wingers like Ejuke as wingbacks thereby removing the natural flair which is a trademark of the SE team (c) playing players like Aribo in a double pivot just to accommodate one person

Haba!

352 is the most balanced formation that we can use simply because we have lots of wingers and strikers. It’s a 352 when attacking, and 532 when defending very underrated formation

12large1:


If he had gotten one those awoniyi chances, it would had been a goal. You put striker in midfield and you’re asking “why e no convert chances”

Pls 12large do we really have cut clear chances against CAR?cos what i saw was two strikers working hard to do it for themselves without much support from midfield.

Pls why Rohr removed Nacho..injury or what.

kentebemoney:

Well kelechi did not play CM, he played AM/SS (Depending on the colour of eyeglass wey u take look am).
Is Muller of bayern a 10?
Is Muller an AM or SS?
Is muller the creative hub of the team?

He played as an attacking midfielder (not his position) not a ss. The problem with Nigerians is that whenever they find a creative striker, their first instinct is to utilize him in midfield even though he is not a midfielder. The reason why I want iheanacho to always play is simply because of his “clinical finishing abilities” 3412 352 but never a 424

forgiveness:


“Everything you said was in response to senseless comment you made”

Was this quote you made below in response to my post? Or was this not what prompted my response?

Who’s the immature tata here?

Don’t play the victim here.

I apologise for the way i talked to u the other day
But of A truth most persons will rate Oshimen ahead of Taiwo at the moment not easy to be the Seria A player of the month and also he has contributed more so far in taking Napoli to the level they're currently in the league and UEFA he has been involved in penalties that ensured their come back from goal down and even scored whopping goals in one of the most defensive disciplined league in europe but still Tiawo have been excellent too

Subzero047:
Unpopular Opinion

If I'm a coach Iheanacho will continue to sit on my bench till he can be able to able to fit into the team without destabilizing the system

That’s why you are not the coach

And as a reasonable coach rohr should be it’s not compulsory iheanacho and osimhen should be on the field at the same time

I can play iheanacho sometimes and rest osimhen

Oasis001:
Why some folks are blaming Iheanacho for the loss ffs! Iheanacho is a fine, deadly and lethal Finisher. In fact I prefer him as our No. 9 to Osimhen.

To be honest, Pitch did 80% damage on the Team cohesion and fluidity. Rory however did the rest damage coz he couldn't change the tactics to get the needed points.

Eagles will demolish CAR in Cameroon. We should be expecting at least nothing less down 3 Goals to Nil.

The Loss wasn't unusual, this is football thus anything can happen. We've seen Barcelona at their peak lost to a lesser Team as Alaves.

We're still comfortably topping the Table and definitely gonna make it to next round. However, I suggest we move back to GAIS except Abuja Stadium is ready.

At this point, there are no guarantees and anything can happen

12large1:


If he had gotten one those awoniyi chances, it would had been a goal. You put striker in midfield and you’re asking “why e no convert chances”

You can imagine ,help me ask am

Person Dey midfield that one Dey ask why e no convert chances like say super eagles create chances

Some people Dey watch ball with their nose

No be juju be that

Subzero047:


Best finisher this, best finisher that how many did he finish yesterday? What justifies playing a 3-5-2 (a) an ultra defensive formation (b) playing natural wingers like Ejuke as wingbacks thereby removing the natural flair which is a trademark of the SE team (c) playing players like Aribo in a double pivot just to accommodate one person

Haba!

How many chances did they create for him that he wasted ?

minfelix:

Japan wey Herve Renard Saudi Arabia beat for their home this evening

And so what ?

You think African teams are that better than japan abi

Same Saudi wey beat Egypt for 2018 World Cup

humility33:


I apologise for the way i talked to u the other day
But of A truth most persons will rate Oshimen ahead of Taiwo at the moment not easy to be the Seria A player of the month and also he has contributed more so far in taking Napoli to the level they're currently in the league and UEFA he has been involved in penalties that ensured their come back from goal down and even scored whopping goals in one of the most defensive disciplined league in europe but still Tiawo have been excellent too

Humility I think some of us are not getting it.

Nobody is comparing Osimehn with any Nigeria strikers cos the guy is unplayable and that's the fact.

We just need to encourage others who are doing well in their respective clubs.

IDENNAA:


So, Moses Simon qualified Nigeria to the previous world cup and was dropped from the final 23man list. You will never change. I think it was just one assist admist hundreds of his usual unproductive dribbles and terrible set pieces....continue but na you go cry

You're actually so dumb
Have you forgotten so soon he had a very serious injury

andrewbaba44:


How many chances did they create for him that he wasted ?

I just don't know o...chances against CAR.

12large1:


There has always been an 8 in the history of football. Dennis berghamp of arsenal is an epitome of that position

Even In Nigeria history....Samson Siasia is an epitome of NO 8 position not even Kanu Nwankwo.

kentebemoney:

Read my mind.
-----_---Victor-----Awoniyi
Kelechi
Ejuke--aribo---frank-----aina
Collins---balogun----ekong


Hind-sight na Vision2020

Nacho cannot play behind this dude...he is not a maestro he will end up being a passenger in the game...you need a maestro to play behind this kind of players...look at leceister they have two maestro behind vardy alone; tielemans and maddison that's why Rodger will prefer to play maddison ahead of nacho in the AMF role...he can't give you that authoritative stamp in that central position...I will compare nacho with harvertz and Muller to get the best out of him play him as an SS...but if we want to get the best out of SE then you don't need a two-striker formation or an SS the two-striker will continue to fail as long we don't have a maestro to control the midfield we have a world class DMF in ndidi but a good ball driver in aribo not a maestro...take chelsea for an instance in the match against juve...we lost the match and couldn't control the midfield cos their were no maestro in kovavic and ziyech...had it been someone like kante or even mount played the match we could have control the midfield and play more creative football...the only player that is close to a maestro is iwobi and even amoo to an extent till we get a better maestro in the likes of eze, olise et al we will continue to play anywhere Belle face kind of style and we will continue to struggle I prefer we stick to 4-2-3-1 formation with maestro in iwobi and a driver in aribo that will still be a lil bit fair...but this shit is iwobi is not even in form we are actually in a deep mess.

humility33:


Bro it wasn't the coach that stopped him from delivering decent crosses yesterday and against cape verde

His crosses are so poor for a winger in all honesty
We wont go far in major tournament from such set pieces

I like Simon but I thinks he need to be dropped immediately

Anytime he crosses the ball I feel like beating him up

Dude was just so useless against CAR

owbabs:
Why do I have the feeling Onyeka was responsible for the goal we conceded?
If need had held his ground and not launch in only to be looped, the player would not have made the forward pass behind Ekong and Balogun.

Lol medicine after death

Leave onyeka oooo

Philosopher1979:


We can get some major Rich men like otedola or our former footballer s like femi Martin's to pay him off and then sack him. Some if our former stars are millionaires.

ObaFemi to pay who off ?

andrewbaba44:


I like Simon but I thinks he need to be dropped immediately

Anytime he crosses the ball I feel like beating him up

Dude was just so useless against CAR

Not only against CAR
He has always been useless post AFCON.

Joebie:
C.A.R won because they were ambitious. They came to win in Lagos yesterday.

Some people say we miss ndidi ,CAR self miss Godfrey kondogbia

Matter of discuss


Can we win CAR tomorrow?

We've seen a replay of this scenario before.

1. We failed to beat Sleone at Freetown after they embarrassed us at home leveling up from 4 goals down.

2. We failed to beat South Africa also in Jo'burg after they beat us 2-0 in our own backyard enroute the last afcon qualification.

Based on these alone, it isn't likely we would beat CAR in cameroun tomorrow. Best may be to come back home with a draw or even at worst get beaten again.


What is likely to change in tomorrow's game?


Nothing. Rohr's utter disrespect of the midfield position has come back to haunt us. He should have invested in more midfielders. What are we doing calling up 10 defenders?

CAR will likely play as they did on Friday. Deny us space in the midfield, play a compact defensive and hit us on the counter on long balls.

Fun fact: CAR had 2 chances from long balls and in both chances Balogun fumbled leaving Uzoho to save one and leak in the other.


Is our qualification at risk?

Yes if we fail to beat CAR and Cape Verde beats Liberia.


Let's see how it goes tomorrow. We stay optimistic. Many of us have lost confidence in Rohr. He has built our team into a compact one defensively but he is bereft of ideas when attacking. We have no attacking game plan and we do not know how to break down defensive teams who park the bus.


Let's hope the boys come to the rescue and get lucky this time.

I have never seen this in my entire life when a coach will name a squad and will name only 3 midfielders and like 8 attackers

So because ndidi etebo and iwobi are not available onyeka Aribo and bonke are the only midfielders we have In Europe ?

Na wa ooo

andrewbaba44:


Some people say we miss ndidi ,CAR self miss Godfrey kondogbia

this one it's just one lose, people had started talking, some even saying Abuja stadium is ready,

ah just SMH,

players

JohnBullMySon:
In the game I watched yesterday, creativity wasn't the main issue, but rather we were mostly unlucky in the box, thanks to a dogged and rugged defence. Saying creativity is the issue, is just looking for what to say. We did not play badly at all. But majority of you guys here only judge with goal and nothing else. CAR was just lucky. We can can still score them up to four goals with that same tactic. All it takes is a little more composure and seriousness in attack.

However, we must still think of new ways to destabilize a stubborn defence, especially when it is taking too long to score.

We did not play badly you say? You think just passing the ball around is playing good football.

Creativity was the problem going forward.
I have seen teams get punished severely for packing the bus.

IDENNAA:
People keep harping on Iwobi as if he has ever solved our midfield headaches. Perhaps, we should ask if Iwobi is the only option available to us. Iwobi is best an 8 or a wing-midfielder not a controller like Amoo , Nwakali or Obinna Nwobodo.


What drives me ffucking crazy is why is this useless whitey not inviting our boys, especially, when they are not bench warmers. And , please let nobody say any nonsense about the league they play in because Rohr has invited and kept inviting players in lowly rated leagues but turned a blind eye to these players who could solve our midfield problems.

Rohr was on the stand the day SE team B played Athletico Madrid in Nigeria and with his Kolo Kolo eyes he saw the magnificent act a clubless NWAKALI pulled off that day. Why is he acting like he doesn't know Nwakali has been playing and consistently improving. Couldn't he use the SE invite to encourage Nwakali and potentially sell him to a decent club, JUST LIKE HE HAS USED THE SUPER EAGLES TO SELL SOME FB TO BETTER CLUBS.

Channel your hate for iwobi to something better

IDENNAA:


So, Moses Simon qualified Nigeria to the previous world cup and was dropped from the final 23man list. You will never change. I think it was just one assist admist hundreds of his usual unproductive dribbles and terrible set pieces....continue but na you go cry

Moses Simon was crucial at the World Cup qualifiers and scored an important goal against Cameroon

He was dropped from the 23 man squad due to injury ,everyone here knows this and can testify

Stop watching back of tv papa azubuike Modric pedri okechukwu

codemaniacs:




Gavi ( 17 ) only has 5 appearances for FCB while Amoo ( 19 ) has 27 appearances for Hammarby while Nwakali ( 23 ) has 104 appearances in his club career.

Amoo and Nwakali should start games the same way Gavi started a semi-final game that's how you prepare players for the future and expose them to more scouts and people who watch international football, before that semi-final game I didn't know of any player called Gavi since I don't watch FCB matches...

but because they're Nigerian born and bred you want to treat them like they are Amateur footballers who only started playing professional football last week...

I hope Nigeria doesn't get banned in future because this match and the one against siera-leone are suspicious.... its like England losing to Andorra or San marino..

A kid playing top flight football for Barcelona situation cannot be compared to nwakali who plays ar division 2 ,take note .

But all good ,let’s see what nwakali can offer if given the chance

sheyishemba:


Nacho cannot play behind this dude...he is not a maestro he will end up being a passenger in the game...you need a maestro to play behind this kind of players...look at leceister they have two maestro behind vardy alone; tielemans and maddison that's why Rodger will prefer to play maddison ahead of nacho in the AMF role...he can't give you that authoritative stamp in that central position...I will compare nacho with harvertz and Muller to get the best out of him play him as an SS...but if we want to get the best out of SE then you don't need a two-striker formation or an SS the two-striker will continue to fail as long we don't have a maestro to control the midfield we have a world class DMF in ndidi but a good ball driver in aribo not a maestro...take chelsea for an instance in the match against juve...we lost the match and couldn't control the midfield cos their were no maestro in kovavic and ziyech...had it been someone like kante or even mount played the match we could have control the midfield and play more creative football...the only player that is close to a maestro is iwobi and even amoo to an extent till we get a better maestro in the likes of eze, olise et al we will continue to play anywhere Belle face kind of style and we will continue to struggle I prefer we stick to 4-2-3-1 formation with maestro in iwobi and a driver in aribo that will still be a lil bit fair...but this shit is iwobi is not even in form we are actually in a deep mess.

This is where the problem is. Nwakali, nwobodo and alhassan yusuf have not been tried before. Your antecedent
that we dont have a midfield controller is suspect and may even be false as long as Rohr REFUSES TO TRY THESE OpTIONS.
In logic, you dont certify the truth of an hyothesis until it is tested.
This hypotheses that we dont have a midfield controller will remain undecided until these players are tried in midfield.
They are available for selection. Let Rohr try them in one of our matches and see that they can do.
The problem is that Rohr refuses to experiment with out midfield and makes false assumptions that have not been verified.
This type of thinking is funny.
HOW DO YOU KNOW SOMETHING IS TRUE IF YOU HAVE NOT TRIED IT BEFORE

andrewbaba44:


And so what ?

You think African teams are that better than japan abi

Same Saudi wey beat Egypt for 2018 World Cup

Bros u can't compare Egypt to Algeria as per world cup form...
If Algeria catch that Saudi team, na fiam! 3lashes of cane for them nyash

andrewbaba44:


I like Simon but I thinks he need to be dropped immediately

Anytime he crosses the ball I feel like beating him up

Dude was just so useless against CAR

I tell u bro except we just wanna turn a blind eye to such awful display

Set pieces can be decisive im crucial matches when utilised even if Onauchu was in that match on Thursday he would have been starved i was so happy with the chemistry he had with Aina in the last match but still his end delivery especially from corners wasn't it

U see the reason why we need a 10 badly that can connect the midfield with attack and create chances from the middle too and sometimes score goals is because delivery from the wings is not assured

Rohr need to do lot of work but i doubt he even know this