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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 10:47am On Oct 09, 2021
minfelix:


Bros u can't compare Egypt to Algeria as per world cup form...
If Algeria catch that Saudi team, na fiam! 3lashes of cane for them nyash
Currently u can say Algeria will outclass Saudi but mind u those Asia teams Iran, Japan, S Korea and Saudi are not a walk in the park

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 10:52am On Oct 09, 2021
sheyishemba:


Nacho cannot play behind this dude...he is not a maestro he will end up being a passenger in the game...you need a maestro to play behind this kind of players...look at leceister they have two maestro behind vardy alone; tielemans and maddison that's why Rodger will prefer to play maddison ahead of nacho in the AMF role...he can't give you that authoritative stamp in that central position...I will compare nacho with harvertz and Muller to get the best out of him play him as an SS...but if we want to get the best out of SE then you don't need a two-striker formation or an SS the two-striker will continue to fail as long we don't have a maestro to control the midfield we have a world class DMF in ndidi but a good ball driver in aribo not a maestro...take chelsea for an instance in the match against juve...we lost the match and couldn't control the midfield cos their were no maestro in kovavic and ziyech...had it been someone like kante or even mount played the match we could have control the midfield and play more creative football...the only player that is close to a maestro is iwobi and even amoo to an extent till we get a better maestro in the likes of eze, olise et al we will continue to play anywhere Belle face kind of style and we will continue to struggle I prefer we stick to 4-2-3-1 formation with maestro in iwobi and a driver in aribo that will still be a lil bit fair...but this shit is iwobi is not even in form we are actually in a deep mess.

Relying on Iwobi can be fatal for us. We need a capable replacement for him when he is injured or out

The NFF is messing up with all the abundant talent in the country we just can't scout a good Midfielder that hold this position we dont even have a standing under 20 team that can be playing friendlies and camping once in a while

Now go convince foreign born players like Olise and Eze the crooks in the NFF instead was hosting Infantino. Nigeria matter is serious

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 10:53am On Oct 09, 2021
Beloved3:
Matter of discuss


Can we win CAR tomorrow?

We've seen a replay of this scenario before.

1. We failed to beat Sleone at Freetown after they embarrassed us at home leveling up from 4 goals down.

2. We failed to beat South Africa also in Jo'burg after they beat us 2-0 in our own backyard enroute the last afcon qualification.

Based on these alone, it isn't likely we would beat CAR in cameroun tomorrow. Best may be to come back home with a draw or even at worst get beaten again.


What is likely to change in tomorrow's game?


Nothing. Rohr's utter disrespect of the midfield position has come back to haunt us. He should have invested in more midfielders. What are we doing calling up 10 defenders?

CAR will likely play as they did on Friday. Deny us space in the midfield, play a compact defensive and hit us on the counter on long balls.

Fun fact: CAR had 2 chances from long balls and in both chances Balogun fumbled leaving Uzoho to save one and leak in the other.


Is our qualification at risk?

Yes if we fail to beat CAR and Cape Verde beats Liberia.


Let's see how it goes tomorrow. We stay optimistic. Many of us have lost confidence in Rohr. He has built our team into a compact one defensively but he is bereft of ideas when attacking. We have no attacking game plan and we do not know how to break down defensive teams who park the bus.


Let's hope the boys come to the rescue and get lucky this time.




First,
there is no department of d game where we r compact.
Defence and midfield,there is no synergy in any department.

Second,
With this midfield,only through luck that we will b coming home with a win.
0 : 0 draw is still what we will likely play.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:55am On Oct 09, 2021
minfelix:


Bros u can't compare Egypt to Algeria as per world cup form...
If Algeria catch that Saudi team, na fiam! 3lashes of cane for them nyash

Algeria is good

African teams always have good form then go to the World Cup and fumble

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Sportilitica: 10:56am On Oct 09, 2021
No one i believe should blame any player anymore.
They are playing well at their clubs.
How come they can not replicate their form on national level?
We keep bashing Onuachu but dude will keep scoring.
When we keep complaining of Simon's crossing but who have been crossing for us??
As talented as Ejuke is, how effective has he been in the SE?
I was blaming the players but lack of pattern and cohesion is becoming too apparent.
There are issues

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:56am On Oct 09, 2021
andrewbaba44:
I have never seen this in my entire life when a coach will name a squad and will name only 3 midfielders and like 8 attackers

So because ndidi etebo and iwobi are not available onyeka Aribo and bonke are the only midfielders we have In Europe ?

Na wa ooo

The man is choking the team with defenders,and yet he keep using the same CB pairing of Ekong and Balogun and sometimes changing the fullbacks... Such cluelessness

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 10:58am On Oct 09, 2021
Kog45:
Humility I think some of us are not getting it.

Nobody is comparing Osimehn with any Nigeria strikers cos the guy is unplayable and that's the fact.

We just need to encourage others who are doing well in their respective clubs.

Sure u read the part where I said he has been excellent too

It is a complete shame that we could not create so many chances for the duo in the last match

Rohr is the worst German coach I have seen in awhile

Can't the nff get at least one corporate body to pay our coach...they should include it in their CSR project and pay the coach monthly without having to pass through the table of the NFF crooks. Then we employ a good sound foreign coach with coaches like finidi or amuneke to work with him for a while prior they take over
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:59am On Oct 09, 2021
Sportilitica:
No one i believe should blame any player anymore.
They are playing well at their clubs.
How come they can not replicate their form on national level?
We keep bashing Onuachu but dude will keep scoring.
When we keep complaining of Simon's crossing but who have been crossing for us??
As talented as Ejuke is, how effective has he been in the SE?
I was blaming the players but lack of pattern and cohesion is becoming too apparent.
There are issues

Rohr apologists will read this and say you are lying... cheesy They make it look like it's the players that decide which formation and tactics to execute during games...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 11:00am On Oct 09, 2021
Danielnino00:


The man is choking the team with defenders,and yet he keep using the same CB pairing of Ekong and Balogun and sometimes changing the fullbacks... Such cluelessness

Rohr is a clueless man
A coach that doesn't understand football no wonder he takes the shits from the nff
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 11:01am On Oct 09, 2021
Danielnino00:


Rohr apologists will read this and say you are lying... cheesy They make it look like it's the players that decide which formation and tactics to execute during games...
Are u surprised
As clueless as Buhari government is have seen people that still support him here in the South where I live.... they believe he is trying to fix the mess of the previous government.... same scenario you should place Rohr apologist
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by minfelix(m): 11:09am On Oct 09, 2021
Beloved3:
Matter of discuss


Can we win CAR tomorrow?

We've seen a replay of this scenario before.

1. We failed to beat Sleone at Freetown after they embarrassed us at home leveling up from 4 goals down.

2. We failed to beat South Africa also in Jo'burg after they beat us 2-0 in our own backyard enroute the last afcon qualification.

Based on these alone, it isn't likely we would beat CAR in cameroun tomorrow. Best may be to come back home with a draw or even at worst get beaten again.


What is likely to change in tomorrow's game?


Nothing. Rohr's utter disrespect of the midfield position has come back to haunt us. He should have invested in more midfielders. What are we doing calling up 10 defenders?

CAR will likely play as they did on Friday. Deny us space in the midfield, play a compact defensive and hit us on the counter on long balls.

Fun fact: CAR had 2 chances from long balls and in both chances Balogun fumbled leaving Uzoho to save one and leak in the other.


Is our qualification at risk?

Yes if we fail to beat CAR and Cape Verde beats Liberia.


Let's see how it goes tomorrow. We stay optimistic. Many of us have lost confidence in Rohr. He has built our team into a compact one defensively but he is bereft of ideas when attacking. We have no attacking game plan and we do not know how to break down defensive teams who park the bus.


Let's hope the boys come to the rescue and get lucky this time.





I doubt eagles under rohr to get revenge against a team that previously handed a disgrace to us..only keshi some how succeeded in that area
Nig 1-1 Ken
Ken 0-1 Nig

Nig 2-3 Con
Con 0-2 Nig

Although he failed to revenge against SA
Nig 2-2 SA
SA 0-0 Nig
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:11am On Oct 09, 2021
Danielnino00:


The man is choking the team with defenders,and yet he keep using the same CB pairing of Ekong and Balogun and sometimes changing the fullbacks... Such cluelessness

Chai Na wa oooo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 11:13am On Oct 09, 2021
Sportilitica:
No one i believe should blame any player anymore.
They are playing well at their clubs.
How come they can not replicate their form on national level?
We keep bashing Onuachu but dude will keep scoring.
When we keep complaining of Simon's crossing but who have been crossing for us??
As talented as Ejuke is, how effective has he been in the SE?
I was blaming the players but lack of pattern and cohesion is becoming too apparent.
There are issues


Three things my good sir,

1. Little time to bond,

2. different playing patterns,

3. different inputs
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 11:16am On Oct 09, 2021
minfelix:


I doubt eagles under rohr to get revenge against a team that previously handed a disgrace to us..only keshi some how succeeded in that area
Nig 1-1 Ken
Ken 0-1 Nig

Nig 2-3 Con
Con 0-2 Nig

Although he failed to revenge against SA
Nig 2-2 SA
SA 0-0 Nig


while the CAR coach was busy dishing out instructions from sideline,

our own dey watch proceeding, while strolling

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 11:21am On Oct 09, 2021
Philosopher1979:


This is where the problem is. Nwakali, nwobodo and alhassan yusuf have not been tried before. Your antecedent
that we dont have a midfield controller is suspect and may even be false as long as Rohr REFUSES TO TRY THESE OpTIONS.
In logic, you dont certify the truth of an hyothesis until it is tested.
This hypotheses that we dont have a midfield controller will remain undecided until these players are tried in midfield.
They are available for selection. Let Rohr try them in one of our matches and see that they can do.
The problem is that Rohr refuses to experiment with out midfield and makes false assumptions that have not been verified.
This type of thinking is funny.
HOW DO YOU KNOW SOMETHING IS TRUE IF YOU HAVE NOT TRIED IT BEFORE



All you're saying is trash where do you see mention nwobodo, nwakali and alhassan.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by minfelix(m): 11:29am On Oct 09, 2021
andrewbaba44:


Algeria is good

African teams always have good form then go to the World Cup and fumble

Remember it took Germany the eventual 2014 winner an extra time of 120mins football to outclass them... i bet they would have beaten any top Asian team in that round 16...even in group stage they hammered south Korea 4-2.
They were jus unlucky to meet a Nigerian team filled with individual stars to deny them 2018 WC
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by minfelix(m): 11:33am On Oct 09, 2021
do4luv14:



while the CAR coach was busy dishing out instructions from sideline,

our own dey watch proceeding, while strolling

I jus weak
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 11:35am On Oct 09, 2021
andrewbaba44:


A kid playing top flight football for Barcelona situation cannot be compared to nwakali who plays ar division 2 ,take note .

But all good ,let’s see what nwakali can offer if given the chance

kante was playing for Caen before Leicester city gave him the exposure he needed...

Mahrez was playing for Le Havre before Leicester city gave him the exposure he needed...

Nwakali and some other Nigerian born players who are good and aren't playing top flight football or their teams are not in any UEFA competitions need exposure...

so a 17 year old playing for Barcelona can be compared with any player..

Any child born in Barcelona or Spain has the opportunity to attend football academies in Barcelona and if they pass trials at FC Barcelona then they can get into the main team..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:48am On Oct 09, 2021
humility33:


Rohr is a clueless man
A coach that doesn't understand football no wonder he takes the shits from the nff

It will be interesting to see his reaction tomorrow...

If CAR should employ the same tactic tomorrow,then Rohr has to come up with something to counter it...
Perhaps tomorrow will afford him an opportunity to redeem his image a little
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 11:49am On Oct 09, 2021
12large1:


There has always been an 8 in the history of football. Dennis berghamp of arsenal is an epitome of that position

Do you know what 8 is?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 11:51am On Oct 09, 2021
andrewbaba44:


That’s why you are not the coach

And as a reasonable coach rohr should be it’s not compulsory iheanacho and osimhen should be on the field at the same time

I can play iheanacho sometimes and rest osimhen

You would play Iheanacho as a lone 9, good coach
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 11:52am On Oct 09, 2021
12large1:


352 is the most balanced formation that we can use simply because we have lots of wingers and strikers. It’s a 352 when attacking, and 532 when defending very underrated formation

There are no wingers in a 352 what you have is wingbacks and Ola Aina is the only natural wingback in our team

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:54am On Oct 09, 2021
codemaniacs:


kante was playing for Caen before Leicester city gave him the exposure he needed...

Mahrez was playing for Le Havre before Leicester city gave him the exposure he needed...

Nwakali and some other Nigerian born players who are good and aren't playing top flight football or their teams are not in any UEFA competitions need exposure...

so a 17 year old playing for Barcelona can be compared with any player..

Any child born in Barcelona or Spain has the opportunity to attend football academies in Barcelona and if they pass trials at FC Barcelona then they can get into the main team..

Kante was good at Caen that’s why he made it to the epl

I don’t know the point here that you don’t want to understand ,I repeat you cannot compare a player at Barcelona chances of making the national team to someone who plays at division 2

Any player that’s good will surely play top flight football even if it will take time

A 17 year old Barcelona player situation should not be compared to a division 2 player

For example if pedri was still playing at las palmas he won’t make the Spanish team

Nwakali will get the exposure he needed if he is doing well at the Spanish division 2 and by then maybe he will easily get a call up to the super eagles
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 11:59am On Oct 09, 2021
Sportilitica:

I wonder why Nacho is always a subject of discussion. Dude is playing well at the moment and will be used by most coaches if not all in Africa.
I believe there is a reason for concern as we are not organised as a team. We have players but definitely not a team.
This is why I am not happy as after 5 years in charge, I see no pattern.
Some of the other groups might not be this forgiving.
I think we are feeling too comfortable as we believe we will just qualify.
Next round might just expose us badly if nothing is done.
Either sack the coach or get him a sound technical assistant

Rohr is not a tier 1 national Team Coach. I suggest we keep him but a technical adviser is definitely needed.

I wouldn't mind to have Amunike as technical Adviser for the Team. We've seen his works, he's a great potential and with right environment, he's gonna be successful.

Rohr is helping to steady the Squad, but his deficiency is obviously - tactically he's a dumb. I like him coz the Team is not doing bad under him, even though he's relying on individual brilliance to win matches.

He's indeed a national team coach version of Ole Gunnar Solskjær.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:02pm On Oct 09, 2021
Iheanacho probably thinking of how he can destroy CAR tomorrow grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 12:02pm On Oct 09, 2021
Meliforme:


We did not play badly you say? You think just passing the ball around is playing good football.

Creativity was the problem going forward.
I have seen teams get punished severely for packing the bus.
I'm not talking about merely passing the ball. Infact, our pre-rohr squad had a major problem even stringing passes together. Mostly Individual brillance got us goals then. I'm not trying to praise Rohr here. I think he has a problem of sticking to a pattern or style for longer than acceptable.

As for the game, we had several decent through passes that were blocked close to goal, especially from the wings, some ended as corners.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:03pm On Oct 09, 2021
You mean am? You fit play better than Collins for that LB? grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:05pm On Oct 09, 2021
The "we are glad we didn't play,so the fans won't have roasted us" team grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Sportilitica: 12:05pm On Oct 09, 2021
Danielnino00:
The "we are glad we didn't play,so the fans won't have roasted us" team grin
Hahaha
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Sportilitica: 12:13pm On Oct 09, 2021
JohnBullMySon:
I'm not talking about merely passing the ball. Infact, our pre-rohr squad had a major problem even stringing passes together. Mostly Individual brillance got us goals then. I'm not trying to praise Rohr here. I think he has a problem of sticking to a pattern or style for longer than acceptable.

As for the game, we had several decent through passes that were blocked close to goal, especially from the wings, some ended as corners.
Boss,
We were quite poor.
We kept kicking the ball into the air for Osihmen to chase especially Ekong.
Sad part is each time our defence was tested, they looked shaky and uncomfortable.
The scoreline could have been worse to be honest and this is not the first time we are seeing this.
Our football decay has been long coming and the SE seems to be the focal point right now
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 12:14pm On Oct 09, 2021
minfelix:

I jus weak

it seems as he is tired of the job
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by minfelix(m): 12:14pm On Oct 09, 2021
Danielnino00:
The "we are glad we didn't play,so the fans won't have roasted us" team grin

I swear if these guys read some of our comments here on Nairaland them go laugh grin

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