Lindner:
I've engaged with some developers on nairaland about this topic and out of frustration, I just surrendered.

Since the pandemic and the popularization of remote work, it's no longer news that western tech companies now look to source talents from Africa and Some parts of Asia. The rationale is to cut cost.

A recruiter that recruits for some of these tech companies recently told me that they no longer disclose potential salary budget to candidates from Africa, especially Nigeria.

She mentioned that they are always shocked at the salary expectations of candidates. She went further to state that 9 out of 10 candidates from Africa request for between 20% to 80% below the budget of the companies( Even though the company is already saving a lot by recruiting from Africa). And the fact that she mentioned Nigeria specifically got me a little angry.

Why tf will you guys be asking for $500/month for a software development role no matter whether its entry level or not? What values do you place on yourself? Just because you live in Nigeria? A cleaner does not even get paid $500/month in those companies. Do you feel good knowing the colleague you'll be working with is earning ×5 of what you're being paid and you're probably even adding more value. Don't you get angry?

The painful part is that some of these companies didnt even offer to pay you these miserable salaries, you requested it yourself.

Sometime ago, on another thread here on NL, on the same topic of remote job compensation, some folks came to the thread with alot of justification why $500/month is a good offer. They cited exchange rate, poverty rate in Nigeria, how there's no job and every other pathetic reasons why they should slave away to a western company. I can't even begin to reason the ones that are hawking their "skills" here on NL offering to build a full fledged e-commerce site with integrated payment solutions for 10k naira.

I don't care what you say, if you know your shit and have good self esteem, you can earn as much as $4k/month. Before you come here and start reciting all the impossibilites in your books, know that I'm writing from a position of knowledge. I have statistics and real life examples to substantiate this figure. I myself have been working remotely even before the pandemic.


I wouldn't have bothered to even write, but this development is now coming back to bite some of us just because we answer the name Nigerian.

Lindner:
I've engaged with some developers on nairaland about this topic and out of frustration, I just surrendered.

Since the pandemic and the popularization of remote work, it's no longer news that western tech companies now look to source talents from Africa and Some parts of Asia. The rationale is to cut cost.

A recruiter that recruits for some of these tech companies recently told me that they no longer disclose potential salary budget to candidates from Africa, especially Nigeria.

She mentioned that they are always shocked at the salary expectations of candidates. She went further to state that 9 out of 10 candidates from Africa request for between 20% to 80% below the budget of the companies( Even though the company is already saving a lot by recruiting from Africa). And the fact that she mentioned Nigeria specifically got me a little angry.

Why tf will you guys be asking for $500/month for a software development role no matter whether its entry level or not? What values do you place on yourself? Just because you live in Nigeria? A cleaner does not even get paid $500/month in those companies. Do you feel good knowing the colleague you'll be working with is earning ×5 of what you're being paid and you're probably even adding more value. Don't you get angry?

The painful part is that some of these companies didnt even offer to pay you these miserable salaries, you requested it yourself.

Sometime ago, on another thread here on NL, on the same topic of remote job compensation, some folks came to the thread with alot of justification why $500/month is a good offer. They cited exchange rate, poverty rate in Nigeria, how there's no job and every other pathetic reasons why they should slave away to a western company. I can't even begin to reason the ones that are hawking their "skills" here on NL offering to build a full fledged e-commerce site with integrated payment solutions for 10k naira.

I don't care what you say, if you know your shit and have good self esteem, you can earn as much as $4k/month. Before you come here and start reciting all the impossibilites in your books, know that I'm writing from a position of knowledge. I have statistics and real life examples to substantiate this figure. I myself have been working remotely even before the pandemic.


I wouldn't have bothered to even write, but this development is now coming back to bite some of us just because we answer the name Nigerian.

shegzhkn:


Lol, poor orientation and exposure.
So did the recruiter told you they are now thinking of exploiting the devs. even more since they don't know their worth ??

shegzhkn:


Lol, poor orientation and exposure.
So did the recruiter told you they are now thinking of exploiting the devs. even more since they don't know their worth ??

ClixMaster:
Forget English, na person wey get hope or money dey get strength to bargain salary.

Lindner:


What do you expect? I didn't need to ask her. A business wants to make money and cut cost. And some of these devs are really good. I've worked with a good number of devs in Nigeria and I dont fail to bring up this topic. The outcome has always been the same. They made me feel greedy. I needed this confirmation from a recruiter just to be sure.

kennethfranc:
I believe it's mostly caused by lack of exposure... You can't expect someone who have been learning for +7months without a tangible income source to turn down an offer just like like.
I bet 70% of the "gurus" will do the same if they where in there shoes.
More awareness will help a lot

Lindner:


What do you expect? I didn't need to ask her. A business wants to make money and cut cost. And some of these devs are really good. I've worked with a good number of devs in Nigeria and I dont fail to bring up this topic. The outcome has always been the same. They made me feel greedy. I needed this confirmation from a recruiter just to be sure.

shegzhkn:


Lol, did she hint you on the amount they had in mind for the jobs they are outsourcing, but it actually funny because apart from the fact that you can breath life into an idea and get to solve problem I'm pretty sure the monetary aspect is also an incentives to want to learn to code.

Why the hell will they even go so low.

Lindner:


The best way to figure it out is to think about how much value you'll be adding based on your job description would be adding in dollar terms to the company. Nobody cares who wrote the application whether you live Somalia or bauchi as long as the app works as expected. The company is making money, everybody including the janitor(who earns more than you) smiles home with a fair pay except you.

Lindner:


Have you wondered why those companies don't call you back sometimes?

shegzhkn:


I also think the awful pay devs. get in Nigeria is also part of the whole situation and also the inability to be able to discern the value they are bringing to the table.

ClixMaster:
Company that wants to call will call. I have not even finish learning let alone applying but I won't blame people collecting $500 per month as salary. If you have gone a day without food, you will understand that condition can make one do anything.

Lindner:


I would say a beginner can accept anything as their first gig just to get their foot in the door. But can you imagine a developer with 2 to 3 years experience who has shipped code to production many times asking for $500/month at interviews?

Lindner:


Yeah. But those are Nigerian companies operating within the economic limitations of Nigeria. A US company that you read online that just raised $153m second round funding, you went to the interview and requested for $500/month. I have an issue with that.

Lindner:


Yeah. But those are Nigerian companies operating within the economic limitations of Nigeria. A US company that you read online that just raised $153m second round funding, you went to the interview and requested for $500/month. I have an issue with that.

shegzhkn:


Nope, i disagree with your assertion.

ClixMaster:
The same way a first class graduate is accepting 30k job offer in Nigeria is the same way a web developer can accept $500. Most have no choice.

shegzhkn:


Did u agree it awful though ??

ClixMaster:
The same way a first class graduate is accepting 30k job offer in Nigeria is the same way a web developer can accept $500. Most have no choice.

Lindner:
I've engaged with some developers on nairaland about this topic and out of frustration, I just surrendered.

Since the pandemic and the popularization of remote work, it's no longer news that western tech companies now look to source talents from Africa and Some parts of Asia. The rationale is to cut cost.

A recruiter that recruits for some of these tech companies recently told me that they no longer disclose potential salary budget to candidates from Africa, especially Nigeria.

She mentioned that they are always shocked at the salary expectations of candidates. She went further to state that 9 out of 10 candidates from Africa request for between 20% to 80% below the budget of the companies( Even though the company is already saving a lot by recruiting from Africa). And the fact that she mentioned Nigeria specifically got me a little angry.

Why tf will you guys be asking for $500/month for a software development role no matter whether its entry level or not? What values do you place on yourself? Just because you live in Nigeria? A cleaner does not even get paid $500/month in those companies. Do you feel good knowing the colleague you'll be working with is earning ×5 of what you're being paid and you're probably even adding more value. Don't you get angry?

The painful part is that some of these companies didnt even offer to pay you these miserable salaries, you requested it yourself.

Sometime ago, on another thread here on NL, on the same topic of remote job compensation, some folks came to the thread with alot of justification why $500/month is a good offer. They cited exchange rate, poverty rate in Nigeria, how there's no job and every other pathetic reasons why they should slave away to a western company. I can't even begin to reason the ones that are hawking their "skills" here on NL offering to build a full fledged e-commerce site with integrated payment solutions for 10k naira.

I don't care what you say, if you know your shit and have good self esteem, you can earn as much as $4k/month. Before you come here and start reciting all the impossibilites in your books, know that I'm writing from a position of knowledge. I have statistics and real life examples to substantiate this figure. I myself have been working remotely even before the pandemic.


I wouldn't have bothered to even write, but this development is now coming back to bite some of us just because we answer the name Nigerian.

BECALMBECALM:
This is ridiculous. How could someone with three years experience on his job accept salary of 500 dollars/month ? You can only see such people in Nigeria. Very useless country. Even here in Asia people that are doing menial jobs can make 500 dollars in
three to fours days.

Lindner:


I would say a beginner can accept anything as their first gig just to get their foot in the door. But can you imagine a developer with 2 to 3 years experience who has shipped code to production many times asking for $500/month at interviews?

Lindner:


I wouldn't be surprised to hear a dev is on less than $500/month working with a foreign company.

airsaylongcome:


How will he foot his internet bill? Power bill nko? My internet costs almost 50k a month. Let's not add energy and other costs. Minimum anyone should be earning in tech is easily x4 of the $500 per month figure. Even slave trade crossover.com pay a minimum of $10/hour for software testers. That's $1600 per month (assuming crossover doesn't decide to be mad and deduct pay because you briefly looked away from your computer).

Lindner:



I'm surprised I've not seen them come to this thread saying exchange rate is 560/$ and $500 is almost 300k naira. That's how they justify it. A lot of those companies now know what's up and do everything in their power to out negotiate you. Not because you're not competent but because you're Nigerian.

Lindner:
I've engaged with some developers on nairaland about this topic and out of frustration, I just surrendered.

Since the pandemic and the popularization of remote work, it's no longer news that western tech companies now look to source talents from Africa and Some parts of Asia. The rationale is to cut cost.

A recruiter that recruits for some of these tech companies recently told me that they no longer disclose potential salary budget to candidates from Africa, especially Nigeria.

She mentioned that they are always shocked at the salary expectations of candidates. She went further to state that 9 out of 10 candidates from Africa request for between 20% to 80% below the budget of the companies( Even though the company is already saving a lot by recruiting from Africa). And the fact that she mentioned Nigeria specifically got me a little angry.

Why tf will you guys be asking for $500/month for a software development role no matter whether its entry level or not? What values do you place on yourself? Just because you live in Nigeria? A cleaner does not even get paid $500/month in those companies. Do you feel good knowing the colleague you'll be working with is earning ×5 of what you're being paid and you're probably even adding more value. Don't you get angry?

The painful part is that some of these companies didnt even offer to pay you these miserable salaries, you requested it yourself.

Sometime ago, on another thread here on NL, on the same topic of remote job compensation, some folks came to the thread with alot of justification why $500/month is a good offer. They cited exchange rate, poverty rate in Nigeria, how there's no job and every other pathetic reasons why they should slave away to a western company. I can't even begin to reason the ones that are hawking their "skills" here on NL offering to build a full fledged e-commerce site with integrated payment solutions for 10k naira.

I don't care what you say, if you know your shit and have good self esteem, you can earn as much as $4k/month. Before you come here and start reciting all the impossibilites in your books, know that I'm writing from a position of knowledge. I have statistics and real life examples to substantiate this figure. I myself have been working remotely even before the pandemic.


I wouldn't have bothered to even write, but this development is now coming back to bite some of us just because we answer the name Nigerian.

talk2hb1:

Just throway face my brother,
I interviewed a junior developer sometime last year and he said he is looking forward to 60,000naira monthly. I jẹ́jẹ́ly told him wé will think about it.

Lindner:


That's it. Placing little value on yourself could be interpreted by employers as you don't believe in yourself. Why should an employer believe in you when you don't believe in yourself.