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When You Have To Hold Something Despite Not Being Drunk With Alcohol by jesusjnr2020(m): 6:46am On Oct 10, 2021
When You Have To Hold Something Despite Not Being Drunk With Alcohol

I am someone who's usually under the influence and very drunk, that I often find myself staggering and falling down a lot on a daily basis.

But there are times I try to hold something, to prevent myself from falling down, which works most times. However sometimes it doesn't work, because even with my holding something, i would still find myself crashing down to the ground, because my holding something couldn't withstand the full effect of my highness.

Yes, I get high a whole lot and drunk to the extent that my two feet were not able to carry me alone, I have to hold something. But it's not with alcohol, because it's not just alcohol that can make someone become intoxicated to the point he has to hold something.

On the day of Pentecost, after the Holy Ghost had come upon the church, it was said that they started speaking in other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. Act2:1-4

This development was said to have caused a stir among the people, that made the multitude who were confounded to come to where the church was, because they were said to have come from every nation under heaven. But every man there heard them speaking in his own language, Hence they were really amazed and wondered what that meant. Acts2:5-12

However there were also those who were said to have mocked them thinking they were drunk with alcohol.

Acts 2:13
Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

But Peter had to explain to them that they weren't filled with wine but of the Holy Spirit, because the Holy Ghost had come upon them. Acts 2:14-21

Therefore it's not only alcohol that could make someone become drunk, because someone can also become drunk and feel very high after being filled with the Holy Spirit.

And one of the signs of being drunk with alcohol, is staggering and also falling down. So it appears that those of the church were also staggering and falling down under the influence of the Spirit of God, hence the assumption that they were drunk with alcohol.

But they weren't filled with alcohol as was assumed, but with something much better, higher, greater, and sweeter, which is the Holy Ghost. Hence they were able to also do things that someone drunk with alcohol could never be able to do, such as, speak in a language that all men could understand, heal the sick, cast out demons, make the blind see, make the lame walk, raise the dead etc.

Moreover it doesn't have the negative or side effects that come with taking alcohol, such as, the health risks, tendency to make people sin or fall into temptation, impairing of one's judgment etc.

Instead, it's healing, positively and spiritually inspiring, charges people spirit and makes them to be spiritually inclined and not fall into temptation, opens up their minds and makes them to be very alert and to see and understand things that were hidden from most men, inspires a lot of positive ideas and makes people to be more creative than they normally are, amongst other good things He brings with Him.

So the difference was very clear, as there's no negative or side effect of being filled with the Spirit of God. It's all good and no evil, but the same can't be said of alcohol which comes with a lot of negative or side effects for the little good it does.

It's no surprise though, because the Holy Spirit is the original while alcohol is the counterfeit. And it's only the absence of the original that would make people go for the counterfeit, as they try to fill the void meant for the Holy Spirit, but if e no be the original, e no fit be like the original.

So why get high on the counterfeit, when you can get higher with the original?

Those who have tasted the original, as the disciples of Christ would never want to go for the counterfeit, because they've tasted the best so they can't settle for any thing less.

God bless.

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Re: When You Have To Hold Something Despite Not Being Drunk With Alcohol by izzou(m): 7:00am On Oct 10, 2021
Kindly show me where the Bible said that you are likely going to stagger and fall when you're filled with the Holy Spirit

I'm here to learn
Re: When You Have To Hold Something Despite Not Being Drunk With Alcohol by lilvicky68(m): 7:14am On Oct 10, 2021
Any person wey you see wey dey stagger fall na better highness be that..
Re: When You Have To Hold Something Despite Not Being Drunk With Alcohol by jesusjnr2020(m): 7:19am On Oct 10, 2021
izzou:
Kindly show me where the Bible said that you are likely going to stagger and fall when you're filled with the Holy Spirit

I'm here to learn
The things of the Spirit are difficult for the carnal mind to comprehend.

Those who are born of the Spirit know what I speak of, so if you want understand these things as well, you must first be born-again. Thanks.
Re: When You Have To Hold Something Despite Not Being Drunk With Alcohol by izzou(m): 7:32am On Oct 10, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
The things of the Spirit are difficult for the carnal mind to comprehend.

Those who are born of the Spirit know what I speak of, so if you want understand these things as well, you must first be born-again. Thanks.

No sir.

It has nothing to do with being carnal minded. You just don't understand what you are taught to recite.

The Bible didn't need me to be born again to let me know that Peter and the 120 apostles spoke in tongues different from their own.

The Bible even mentioned the languages they spoke, and the Bible told us that though they spoke in different languages, what they were saying meant the Wonderful works of God.

The people called them drunk, because they didn't expect Jew men and women, to start speaking foreign languages overnight. If I see my friend Abuchi, speaking to me in Spanish the next day, I might assume he's drunk.

So I ask you again, what part of the Bible said the people staggered and fell, when they were filled with the Holy spirit?

You can ask your pastor if you don't know
Re: When You Have To Hold Something Despite Not Being Drunk With Alcohol by jesusjnr2020(m): 7:44am On Oct 10, 2021
izzou:


No sir.

It has nothing to do with being carnal minded. You just don't understand what you are taught to recite.

The Bible didn't need me to be born again to let me know that Peter and the 120 apostles spoke in tongues different from their own.

The Bible even mentioned the languages they spoke, and the Bible told us that though they spoke in different languages, what they were saying meant the Wonderful works of God.

The people called them drunk, because they didn't expect Jew men and women, to start speaking foreign languages overnight. If I see my friend Abuchi, speaking to me in Spanish the next day, I might assume he's drunk.

So I ask you again, what part of the Bible said the people staggered and fell, when they were filled with the Holy spirit?

You can ask your pastor if you don't know
You know, I actually checked your profile before responding to your comment, because I have heard the pretentious line, "i want to learn" severally before. So I saw some of your posts including that which spoke about how much a prostitute ought to be paid, hence I knew you lied when you said you were here to learn but just here to argue blindly.

So as I told you, i'd say once again, this is not meant for the carnal minded, but for those who were born of the Spirit just as the apostles, who have also experienced the same filling of the Holy Spirit. They would understand my language, therefore if you want to do same, marvel not that I say unto, you must be born again. Thanks.
Re: When You Have To Hold Something Despite Not Being Drunk With Alcohol by izzou(m): 7:50am On Oct 10, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
You know, I actually checked your profile before I responded to your comment, because I have heard the pretentious line, "i want to learn" severally before, so I saw some of your posts including that which spoke about how much a prostitute ought to be paid, hence I knew you lied when you said you were here to learn but just here to argue blindly.

So as I told you, i'd say once again, this is not meant for the carnal minded, but for those who were born of the Spirit just as the apostles, who have also experienced the same filling of the Holy Spirit. They would understand my language, so if you want to do same, marvel not that I say unto, you must be both again. Thanks.

I'm glad you now know that acting drunk in the name of being filled with the Holy spirit is just drama.

There's no biblical basis for it. It was never in the Bible, and the apostles never staggered and fell on the floor to receive it.

Have a blessed Sunday
Re: When You Have To Hold Something Despite Not Being Drunk With Alcohol by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:02am On Oct 10, 2021
izzou:


I'm glad you now know that acting drunk in the name of being filled with the Holy spirit is just drama.

There's no biblical basis for it. It was never in the Bible, and the apostles never staggered and fell on the floor to receive it.

Have a blessed Sunday
You don't know yet you think you do and continue to argue ignorantly.

You think it's by using carnal understanding to study the scriptures to understand it. You need the God to reveal His Word to you before you would get to understand it.

So do not expect to understand what we speak of until you get born again and also get filled with the Spirit.

It's my prayer for you, and i hope to hear from you again after that. You language and understanding would change because some things you can't understand now, you'd get to understand. Thanks.
Re: When You Have To Hold Something Despite Not Being Drunk With Alcohol by izzou(m): 8:18am On Oct 10, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
You don't know yet you think you do and continue to argue ignorantly.

You think it's by using carnal understanding to study the scriptures to understand it. You need the God to reveal His Word to you before you would get to understand it.

So do not expect to under what speak of until you get born again and also get filled with the Spirit.

It's my prayer for you, and i hope to hear from you again after that. You language and understanding would change because some things you can't understand now, you'd get to understand. Thanks.

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As usual, when you are asked to explain your beliefs, you play the carnal and spiritual card.

Just show me a portion in the book of Acts where the Apostles were staggering and falling down because they were filled with the Holy spirit.

Just show me one. That's all I need to believe you. That's all
Re: When You Have To Hold Something Despite Not Being Drunk With Alcohol by orisa37: 8:36am On Oct 10, 2021
YOU'RE DESCRIBING THE BRILLIANCE AND THE CONFIDENCE OF THE GRACE OF CHRIST JESUS WHEN YOU RECEIVE IT.
Re: When You Have To Hold Something Despite Not Being Drunk With Alcohol by orisa37: 8:38am On Oct 10, 2021
YOU'RE DESCRIBING THE BRILLIANCE AND THE CONFIDENCE OF THE GRACE OF CHRIST JESUS WHEN YOU RECEIVE IT.

HAPPY SUNDAY JJ.

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Re: When You Have To Hold Something Despite Not Being Drunk With Alcohol by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:39am On Oct 10, 2021
izzou:


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As usual, when you are asked to explain your beliefs, you play the carnal and spiritual card.

Just show me a portion in the book of Acts where the Apostles were staggering and falling down because they were filled with the Holy spirit.

Just show me one. That's all I need to believe you. That's all
Okay let me just oblige you with one.

Matthew 17:5-6 (KJV)

While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid.

You can see what the disciples of Christ did after they heard God's voice, and you still expect them to remain standing after the Spirit of same God had come upon them?

Let add another since you rejected that one.

1 Samuel 19:23-24 (KJV)

And he went thither to Naioth in Ramah: and the Spirit of God was upon him also, and he went on, and prophesied, until he came to Naioth in Ramah.
And he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night. Wherefore they say, Is Saul also among the prophets?


I think this should speak for itself, because it was nothing compared to what happened on the day of Pentecost to the disciples, yet you see what happened.

I have told you, it's impossible to understand the things of the Spirit from the outside, so you must be born again if you really wanted to.

Thanks and God bless.
Re: When You Have To Hold Something Despite Not Being Drunk With Alcohol by izzou(m): 8:50am On Oct 10, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
Okay let me just oblige you with one.

Matthew 17:5-6 (KJV)

While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid.

You can see what the disciples of Christ did after they heard God's voice, and you still expect them to remain standing after the Spirit of same God had come upon them?

I have told you, it's impossible to understand the things of the Spirit from the outside, so you must be born again if you really wanted to.

Thanks and God bless.

Just read what you typed and see if it makes any sense with my question. grin

They were afraid after hearing God's voice. Consciously, they fell on their faces? CONSCIOUSLY

So if the Spirit of God comes on you, you must stagger and act drunk abi?

Stop holding on to what GO and Mummy wa said. Read God's word yourself. The Holy Spirit would open your eyes to see the deceptions of today

Shalom cool
Re: When You Have To Hold Something Despite Not Being Drunk With Alcohol by jesusjnr2020(m): 9:09am On Oct 10, 2021
izzou:


Just read what you typed and see if it makes any sense with my question. grin

They were afraid after hearing God's voice. Consciously, they fell on their faces? CONSCIOUSLY

So if the Spirit of God comes on you, you must stagger and act drunk abi?

Stop holding on to what GO and Mummy wa said. Read God's word yourself. The Holy Spirit would open your eyes to see the deceptions of today

Shalom cool
Sheer ignorance, but let me leave you to continue to wallow in it, since you don't know but still don't want to learn from those who do...

Bye.
Re: When You Have To Hold Something Despite Not Being Drunk With Alcohol by jesusjnr2020(m): 10:13am On Oct 10, 2021
orisa37:
YOU'RE DESCRIBING THE BRILLIANCE AND THE CONFIDENCE OF THE GRACE OF CHRIST JESUS WHEN YOU RECEIVE IT.

HAPPY SUNDAY JJ.
Thanks bro.

I wish you the same.
Re: When You Have To Hold Something Despite Not Being Drunk With Alcohol by jesusjnr2020(m): 10:18am On Oct 10, 2021
izzou:


Just read what you typed and see if it makes any sense with my question. grin

They were afraid after hearing God's voice. Consciously, they fell on their faces? CONSCIOUSLY

So if the Spirit of God comes on you, you must stagger and act drunk abi?

Stop holding on to what GO and Mummy wa said. Read God's word yourself. The Holy Spirit would open your eyes to see the deceptions of today

Shalom cool
I already modified my response with this one, but I had an urge to still bring it here so you can see it, so that you'd have no excuse to continue to walk in ignorance.

1 Samuel 19:23-24 (KJV)

And he went thither to Naioth in Ramah: and the Spirit of God was upon him also, and he went on, and prophesied, until he came to Naioth in Ramah.
And he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night. Wherefore they say, Is Saul also among the prophets?
Re: When You Have To Hold Something Despite Not Being Drunk With Alcohol by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:26am On Oct 17, 2021
orisa37:
YOU'RE DESCRIBING THE BRILLIANCE AND THE CONFIDENCE OF THE GRACE OF CHRIST JESUS WHEN YOU RECEIVE IT.

HAPPY SUNDAY JJ.
Happy Sunday bro.
Re: When You Have To Hold Something Despite Not Being Drunk With Alcohol by orunto27: 12:42pm On Oct 17, 2021
Then you are very sane.
Re: When You Have To Hold Something Despite Not Being Drunk With Alcohol by Ayo081(m): 4:01pm On Oct 17, 2021
Being slain in the Spirit is not the matter. However it's what happened to you after being slain.
Re: When You Have To Hold Something Despite Not Being Drunk With Alcohol by orisa37: 12:31pm On Oct 18, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
Happy Sunday bro.


Thanks.

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