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Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by Lindner: 10:38am On Oct 10, 2021 |
tensazangetsu20: You risk appearing like a quack when you under price yourself. If you were a lady, would you give your butt or boobs to a plastic surgeon who charged you 50k naira?. I bet you'll run for your life. Same analogy is applicable here. 4 Likes |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by Hannania(m): 10:39am On Oct 10, 2021 |
Lindner:Good morning sir. I'm just getting started on this field. By December, my learning level will be up for junior dev role. If I may ask, your input to get remote internship to get cooperate experience would be appreciated |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by airsaylongcome: 10:40am On Oct 10, 2021 |
tensazangetsu20: Hahaha.... I got a similar quote when I was considering a fintech project. I didn't even honor him by telling him we will get back to him. |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by airsaylongcome: 10:44am On Oct 10, 2021 |
Hannania: You do not need corporate experience to intern. Pick up an interesting open source solution. Look at the issues reported in the github repo. Develop a solution for any low hanging fruit and push back. If your solution is good it will be accepted and you can keep developing and gaining experience. I currently work in telephony. No single work place experience. Got the offer purely from messing about with the solution in my house with my family members as lab rats 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by Lindner: 10:48am On Oct 10, 2021 |
Hannania: I receive at least one email per week with the same question. I hope to create a thread soon where I'll share my own journey and practical tips to transition from a learner to landing the first remote job. I can't address it here cos it'll be too long. The problem is alot of people are learning which is good but they're doing so in a way that makes them unattractive to employers especially foreign companies. Not to brag but I got my first remote role just 4 months after I started learning. I ascribe that to favour and the fact that I had a clear path to follow which others too have followed and achieved the same result. There is no secret here whatsoever, everything is available in public space for free. Of course, individual realities will differ. 11 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by Hannania(m): 10:54am On Oct 10, 2021 |
airsaylongcome:Thank you very much |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by Hannania(m): 10:58am On Oct 10, 2021 |
Lindner:Thanks for the response. Before you make the thread, highlights of such steps would be much appreciated. As I don't know when you'd make the post, so my learning curve will be more structured.. Please consider it � 1 Like |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by kennethfranc(m): 10:59am On Oct 10, 2021 |
Lindner:It will surely be an interesting read. We will be waiting then. 1 Like |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by pixey(m): 11:50am On Oct 10, 2021 |
shegzhkn:Very very sad development! We need reorientation on negotiation of salaries.I am an upcoming freelance dev. I can't accept such amount even as a start. 2 Likes |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by Femmyfestus: 12:43pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
Lindner:Please sir, what websites can i get this remote jobs. |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by Lindner: 1:41pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
Femmyfestus: There are a lot of those websites out there. My most successes have been through LinkedIn. |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by Femmyfestus: 2:08pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
Lindner:alright. Thank you. If you have any links please kindly drop them |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by genaro2000(m): 2:25pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
I would suggest if there’s a way all software developers in Nigeria can come together, because some of them don’t know that what they are doing is wrong, and whatever they do will affect everyone of us. Both aspiring and experienced ones, we should have a platform for Nigerian software developers, so that we won’t have issues like this. Because reading this, I felt really bad and annoyed. 2 Likes |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by airsaylongcome: 2:25pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
Lindner: Mine has been reddit |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by Lindner: 2:34pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
genaro2000: I think it makes sense. It wouldn't be nice for Nigeria to be labelled as the go-to place for the cheapest "labour". These recruiters network within themselves as well and they work with multiple companies, it wouldn't take much time before words get out and they start offering us $100/month � 1 Like |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by genaro2000(m): 2:52pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
Lindner:Jesu 2 Likes |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by Karleb(m): 3:42pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
Lindner: Seriously, the Nigerian recruiters are not helping matters. You'd see them wanting a full stack developer with 2 years of experience for N150k per month full time. When a developer is used to such meager pay, they would never believe they have the right to earn huge amounts especially if they are not yet seniors. Some companies even ask to bring payslip of former working place. I once read of a company that recruited for one top foreign tech company's scheme in Lagos Island, they were paying their developers N150k, short changing them, these people were just like middle men o. During COVID-19, the original employers shared $500 as relief packages but this Lagos company converted it to loan. Some developers are naive though. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by CSTR2: 3:53pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
Have you thought about the fact that low cost is reason why they choose Nigerian devs? Nigerians can't even get PayPal to facilitate money transfer to Nigeria due to a bad reputation. Why would I choose a Nigerian for nearly the same pay I can give an American or a European.? That is the bitter fact. 4 Likes |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by CSTR2: 3:54pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
Karleb:That is wickedness. |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by CSTR2: 3:57pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
Lindner:Well, that is how China became rich. Isn't it? A lot of people are naive about the world. Nigerians do not have the international leverage to demand high pay for such a competitive market. |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by Lindner: 3:58pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
Karleb: This is man's inhumanity to another man. 3 Likes |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by CSTR2: 4:02pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
Go to upwork. Many Nigerians are struggling to get jobs just by the reputation of their country. It would take years of building our reputation by consistently producing globally acceptable quality, for us to compete favourably with devs from Europe and America. And that is what determines value. A beggar has no choice. Not everybody is you. Most people are just struggling to get in the door. 3 Likes |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by Karleb(m): 4:08pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
CSTR2: There's cheap and there's cheap. Most VFx in Hollywood are done by Indians because they would happily do it for half the price but a developer of 2 years experience earning $500/month remotely is criminal. $2k and above would be fair. |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by Lindner: 4:19pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
CSTR2: A beggar has no choice? These are the kind of mindsets that shouldn't be promoted. We shouldn't let our background as Nigerians put our backs on the ground. Remember, by employing you, they're not doing you any more favour than you're doing them. Ffs, no one should become a hypothetical beggar in a recruitment. No matter the hardship, no matter how saturated the market is, you've still got some value. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by airsaylongcome: 4:27pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
CSTR2: PayPal?! My employers pay directly into my Nigerian Dom account. And they pay ALL the charges without touching a cent from my pay. Being employed isn't charity my brother. Put in the effort to be good at what you do. Trust me they will bend all the rules for you. This mentality of them doing you a favour is what makes Nigerian IT guys under price themselves. I remember turning down a Tekxperts job because the pay was rubbish. And I was unemployed at the time o. So no, employers aren't doing you a favor. You are providing value for them. And should be paid your worth. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by airsaylongcome: 4:28pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
Karleb: That's Tekxperts. 1 Like |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by Karleb(m): 4:33pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
airsaylongcome: Oh! You know about them. I guess they recruited for Microsoft. 1 Like |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by Lindner: 4:34pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
airsaylongcome: So on point. No one is doing anyone any favour. And for the middlemen-like companies milking employees dry, it's because everything goes in Nigeria. And these are the ones popularizing Nigeria as a tech slave port. 1 Like |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by shegzhkn: 4:35pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
Lindner: You are correct, he is also right. The recruiters in the country are offering incredibly low pay, you get on the online market place to offer your skill you are faced with myriad of stumbling block, all this will have some effect i guess. It not a matter of choice for these folks, they've got no other choice. |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by airsaylongcome: 4:36pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
CSTR2: Waoh! Shoot me!!! What leverage do you need? That you aren't as good as them? Or what? We are talking about knowledge economy here. Not a skill that requires special physical tools. As I'm seated here on Naija my employer's have shipped 4 desk phones at their cost for me to work with. They did the same for colleagues in Latvia and Argentina. Agreed you don't get certain benefits like you would if you were in say the US. But for compensation, you are rated the same as your US colleague until you desperately under price yourself. Do your research on Glassdoor for pay ranges and price yourself appropriately my man 3 Likes |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by airsaylongcome: 4:40pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
Karleb: Technically they recruited for themselves. They are what is called Managed Service Providers (MSP). They don't recruit for Microsoft but rather are contractors to Microsoft. But Microsoft pays them well for each person on the job. Maybe $20/hr for Labour. The idiots (excuse my French) pay staff less than a tenth of that. And pay at ₦360 to the dollar (they call this nonsense "Tekxperts dollar rates" ) . I know them well well. During Lockdown they had their staff in very fancy hotels in Lagos where monthly cost for each staff was more than staff salaries. The same Tekxperts pay their Rwandese staff way more than they pay their Naija staff. And the Rwandese office is mostly a BCP setup that provides cover for EMEA markets in case Nigeria goes down 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: This Is What A Recruiter Told Me About Software Developers From Nigeria by pixey(m): 4:45pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
CSTR2:Nigerian or no Nigerian,you should see yourself as an equal or even better than foreigners.Stop justifying such discrimination because Nigeria is a dead country. We have geniuses that are ten times better than them. Stop this mindset please. 3 Likes |
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