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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chrisooblog: 11:00am On Oct 15, 2021
Gnabry is a starter for a Bayern side that has more pedigree and standing in football than Man City. Funny enough the Sane you are mentioning Serge dey bench am steady for Munich.

I'm just saying if we use player output and remove individual bias there isn't too much to separate Riyad from Gnabry.

andrewbaba44:


Even ferran torres has better stats for Spain than many top players ,I guess that means he is better than many top players like Dybala with poor stats for Argentina ?

Mahrez is better than gnabry abeg ,if mahrez Na Chelsea player you won’t make this statement

You think gnabry will have 100 percent game time at city ? Same city sane ran away from

You think It’s easy winning pfa players players of the year and pfa fans player of the year while playing for Leicester city ?

You think it’s easy winning mancity player of the months at 4 different months on a start studded team ?

How many top teams has gnabry scored against while playing for Germany if I may ask ,same gnabry was no where to be found during the euros grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Almajirihunter(m): 11:00am On Oct 15, 2021
patrickmuf:
I know you will cling onto stats but we all have eyes, Mahrez is better on the ball than Gnabry...You might point to stats but stats doesn't tell the whole story.

If you say Gnabry is more clinical I wouldn't argue but in their all round play, Mahrez tops Gnabry.

Are you really sure of the bolded, Mahrez is a very deadly finisher as well, I think the whole Pep roulette thing is making people not see the individual brilliance of city’s players
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 11:02am On Oct 15, 2021
chrisooblog:
Gnabry is a starter for a Bayern side that has more pedigree and standing in football than Man City. Funny enough the Sane you are mentioning Serge dey bench am steady for Munich.

I'm just saying if we use player output and remove individual bias there isn't too much to separate Riyad from Gnabry.

Guardiola use to rotate his team no matter who you are

Gnabry will be rotated at mancity and won’t play all games ,mancity have more wingers than Bayern and there is no way mahrez won’t get into Bayern line up and you know this

Individual is the koko here and mahrez beats gnabry to that

Na guardiola rotation policy I blame and not you guys ,normal this argument no suppose come up

Normally self gnabry no go even lace marco Reus boots grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chrisooblog: 11:16am On Oct 15, 2021
That Pep rotation policy is a myth jare. When Sterling is in form how often does he get rotated? or KDB, Dias or Gundugan for that matter? If you are delivering for Pep you become undroppable.

Sane has sha gone to the ''easier'' German Bundesliga where he should be killing it. Abi na Guardiola rotation policy dey affect am for Munich too?

andrewbaba44:

Guardiola use to rotate his team no matter who you are

Gnabry will be rotated at mancity and won’t play all games ,mancity have more wingers than Bayern and there is no way mahrez won’t get into Bayern line up and you know this

Individual is the koko here and mahrez beats gnabry to that

Na guardiola rotation policy I blame and not you guys ,normal this argument no suppose come up

Normally self gnabry no go even lace marco Reus boots grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 11:17am On Oct 15, 2021
andrewbaba44:

Guardiola use to rotate his team no matter who you are

Gnabry will be rotated at mancity and won’t play all games ,mancity have more wingers than Bayern and there is no way mahrez won’t get into Bayern line up and you know this

Individual is the koko here and mahrez beats gnabry to that

Na guardiola rotation policy I blame and not you guys ,normal this argument no suppose come up

Normally self gnabry no go even lace marco Reus boots grin
Reus is special...

That guy will be out for several months yet Wil come back and play like he was never injured. Players like Reus, Rosicky, De Lima etc will always play well after a long time out injured. They amaze me.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 11:46am On Oct 15, 2021
chrisooblog:
That Pep rotation policy is a myth jare. When Sterling is in form how often does he get rotated? or KDB, Dias or Gundugan for that matter? If you are delivering for Pep you become undroppable.

Sane has sha gone to the ''easier'' German Bundesliga where he should be killing it. Abi na Guardiola rotation policy dey affect am for Munich too?


Are we even talking about sane and gnabry comparison here ?

Sane is not even at mahrez level so this talk is not even necessary

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 11:55am On Oct 15, 2021
Gnabry to Mahrez?

Kai! Mahrez don suffer. cheesy

No Bundesliga player is even qualified to be compared to Ligue1 players. Frauds! That’s what they are.

Same Gnabry that flopped in Epl and ended up bossing Bundesliga because he’s playing for a team that has no league rivalry.

Na Chelsea and Tottenham i blame sha, Na them cause this Gnabry hype. Someone that has turned to flop since his Ucl win. cheesy

And for the record, Werner had more G/A than Gnabry last season. grin grin cheesy

Don’t disrespect Mahrez please.

Mahrez will body and bench all the wingers in Bayern, he’ll boss and pad stats in that Bundesliga and might comfortably win the league’s best player.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 12:08pm On Oct 15, 2021
patrickmuf:
I know you will cling onto stats but we all have eyes, Mahrez is better on the ball than Gnabry...You might point to stats but stats doesn't tell the whole story.

If you say Gnabry is more clinical I wouldn't argue but in their all round play, Mahrez tops Gnabry.

I rest my case.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 12:21pm On Oct 15, 2021
hensben:
Which stats? Playing in a one horse league is not same with someone in epl. Mahrez will eat bundles liga for lunch
You don start again? grin
Hazard matter never teach una lesson, plus see sane wey we still dey wait for him to eat bundesliga for lunch grin

Not saying Gnabry is better than mahrez sha but this bolded reason don suppose backfire una well well na

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 12:47pm On Oct 15, 2021
Christian Pulisic has now been unavailable for 10/12 of Chelsea’s games so far this season (83%).

He will miss Saturday’s game against Brentford through injury.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Katcall: 12:53pm On Oct 15, 2021
afrodoc2:

Gnabry hit limelight in 2012? grin
see what I meant

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:55pm On Oct 15, 2021
hensben:
Was it not obvious last season that it was Tuchel that changed the whole system in the team that gave them ucl trophy. On a normal day man city would’ve won that game.

So Cuntay Mourinho and Sarri didn't change the system to win trophies?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:57pm On Oct 15, 2021
andrewbaba44:


It’s not hard to spot a kid

Is this how they judge football if I may ask ?

Should I remind you that gnabry didn’t make arsenal and westbrom team since you want to use the narrative of who first hit the limelight (audio limelight )

Gnabry is a good player no doubt but mahrez is better

Which club was Mahrez coming from before Leicester
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:00pm On Oct 15, 2021
andrewbaba44:


Mahrez individual awards alone show say him better pass gnabry

Jorginhos individual award should also show that he is better than Kante or Kroos

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:02pm On Oct 15, 2021
patrickmuf:
I know you will cling onto stats but we all have eyes, Mahrez is better on the ball than Gnabry...You might point to stats but stats doesn't tell the whole story.

If you say Gnabry is more clinical I wouldn't argue but in their all round play, Mahrez tops Gnabry.

What is this all round play that Mahrez is better than Gnabry at let's know. Mahrez is very lightweight, one legged and a one trick pony who isn't even Robben at that one trick. It's to cut to the left leg and shoot

Gnabry is better than Mahrez even though both are not elite
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:03pm On Oct 15, 2021
hensben:
Which stats? Playing in a one horse league is not same with someone in epl. Mahrez will eat bundles liga for lunch.

You shouldn't forget how Gnabry ate Chelsea for lunch at Stamford Bridge. Even Spurs at their home

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 1:03pm On Oct 15, 2021
raumdeuter:


Jorginhos individual award should also show that he is better than Kante or Kroos

Because Jorginho won uefa men best player meant he has many individual awards ?

Go and check kante and Kroos individual awards and get back to me

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:04pm On Oct 15, 2021
andrewbaba44:


Even ferran torres has better stats for Spain than many top players ,I guess that means he is better than many top players like Dybala with poor stats for Argentina ?

Mahrez is better than gnabry abeg ,if mahrez Na Chelsea player you won’t make this statement

You think gnabry will have 100 percent game time at city ? Same city sane ran away from

You think It’s easy winning pfa players players of the year and pfa fans player of the year while playing for Leicester city ?

You think it’s easy winning mancity player of the months at 4 different months on a start studded team ?

How many top teams has gnabry scored against while playing for Germany if I may ask ,same gnabry was no where to be found during the euros grin

And you think mahrez will not pull gnabry stats at the bundesliga ? You must be joking if you think so

Mahrez for man city 92 epl game’s and 28 goals despite being rotated

Gnabry at the bundesliga 95 league games and 35 goals while always playing 90 minutes ,please what’s the difference in both stats ?

Stop comparing scoring for an African national team with Europe that has many ekuke teams they will always meet in the qualifiers wey go collect 10-0 13-0 grin

Can we check their CL stats?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 1:05pm On Oct 15, 2021
Jodera:
You don start again? grin
Hazard matter never teach una lesson, plus see sane wey we still dey wait for him to eat bundesliga for lunch grin

Not saying Gnabry is better than mahrez sha but this bolded reason don suppose backfire una well well na

They cannot insult Laliga nah ,Na bundesliga power dem get grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:11pm On Oct 15, 2021
chrisooblog:
That Pep rotation policy is a myth jare. When Sterling is in form how often does he get rotated? or KDB, Dias or Gundugan for that matter? If you are delivering for Pep you become undroppable.

Sane has sha gone to the ''easier'' German Bundesliga where he should be killing it. Abi na Guardiola rotation policy dey affect am for Munich too?


Na so people go dey give useless excuses. When Gundogan was balling he wasn't benched, KdB plays most games when fit, Dias plays most games but Mahrez that Gabriel Jesus will come and bench at right wing is what we are complaining about

Gnabry has played with Coman Sane Coutinho Perisic and remains a starter but Mahrez is struggling for gametime with Foden Grealish and Sterling
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 1:11pm On Oct 15, 2021
raumdeuter:


So in Belgium Lukaku and Debryune are not strong enough to carry him
In Madrid Bnzem and Bale are not enough to carry him
In Chelsea Costa Fabregas Mata Pedro are not enough

Abeg who was carrying Werner last season to win the CL


Don't be asking stupid questions like this.....we are talking of trio attacking talents that have prove to have complimented each other in different clubs and you are bringing country and werner in the line.i can also turn it to benzema and Michael badluck ballack discussion just so you know.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 1:14pm On Oct 15, 2021
A40:
Schuerrle and Hazard also carried each other to EPL title for Chelsea. I will not repeat myself again


Ok
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:15pm On Oct 15, 2021
andrewbaba44:


Because Jorginho won uefa men best player meant he has many individual awards ?

Go and check kante and Kroos individual awards and get back to me

There is none of Kantes or Kroos individual award on the level of what Jorginho won

The greatest individual award Kante ever won was PFA, while Jorginho won Uefa player
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OdogwuCubana: 1:16pm On Oct 15, 2021
Amoto94:
Christian Pulisic has now been unavailable for 10/12 of Chelsea’s games so far this season (83%).

He will miss Saturday’s game against Brentford through injury.
A medical student whose medical career was disrupted by football
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:18pm On Oct 15, 2021
Jodera:
You don start again? grin
Hazard matter never teach una lesson, plus see sane wey we still dey wait for him to eat bundesliga for lunch grin

Not saying Gnabry is better than mahrez sha but this bolded reason don suppose backfire una well well na

Coutinho that was bossing the EPL flopped hard in Spain and Germany
Hazard that was their king is now the biggest flop in LA liga history
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 1:20pm On Oct 15, 2021
raumdeuter:


There is none of Kantes or Kroos individual award on the level of what Jorginho won

The greatest individual award Kante ever won was PFA, while Jorginho won Uefa player

And so what ? You and this your ojuelegba analysis

Kante got many individual awards

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:21pm On Oct 15, 2021
popizaino:



Don't be asking stupid questions like this.....we are talking of trio attacking talents that have prove to have complimented each other in different clubs and you are bringing country and werner in the line.i can also turn it to benzema and Michael badluck ballack discussion just so you know.

Hazard is a useless player he is the one that keeps coming with excuses everytime whether it's country Chelsea or Madrid

He left Chelsea suddenly players like Werner started winning CL maybe you will tell us Werner had better attacking trio than Hazard at Chelsea

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 1:22pm On Oct 15, 2021
OdogwuCubana:
A medical student whose medical career was disrupted by football
He must learn medicine by force
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:22pm On Oct 15, 2021
andrewbaba44:


And so what ? You and this your ojuelegba analysis

Kante got many individual awards

He never got the level of Jorginhos

Kante was gathering PFA when Jorginho went for Uefa

If they ask you who is higher La liga player of the year or Uefa which one will you pick

This year's balon dor, Jorginho might even make top 5.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 1:27pm On Oct 15, 2021
raumdeuter:


He never got the level of Jorginhos

Kante was gathering PFA when Jorginho went for Uefa

If they ask you who is higher La liga player of the year or Uefa which one will you pick

This year's balon dor, Jorginho might even make top 5.

Well Messi and lewandowski will be sharing the 2 ballon d or

Jorginho making top 5 at ballon the or ,this life sha grin

Jorginho should be the first player to win uefa men player of the year who is not world class
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 1:53pm On Oct 15, 2021
andrewbaba44:


They cannot insult Laliga nah ,Na bundesliga power dem get grin
Lol... Make your barca folks come flood here ba cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:59pm On Oct 15, 2021
andrewbaba44:


Well Messi and lewandowski will be sharing the 2 ballon d or

Jorginho making top 5 at ballon the or ,this life sha grin

Jorginho should be the first player to win uefa men player of the year who is not world class

If you are a believer in awards, Then you cannot be picking and choosing which winner is world class and which is not
The same standard that you used to believe the 1st winner will be used to believe the 2nd winner

If you believe Mahrez is better than Gnabry because of Awards then Jorginho is better than Kroos and Kante because of awards

I go with Chrisoblog submision both are close almost equal. None of them is world class but Gnabry shades it for me because he is more versatile in front and a key part of a CL winning team

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