Workch:
Keep calm. Your mother in law will soon be fine.
I'm not the cause of your misfortune

Of course, you have enough misfortune on your plate already.

So, eat drink and be depressed

edoairways:

You don't have to believe me because research data are manipulated. You can ask seasoned researchers how they do.

Give me an example of the seasoned researcher I can ask

Workch:
Did you read what you posted? Or you just hurriedly cherry picked the part you liked.
Because I also go this from your link

Ofcourse I read it. 80% chance of reinfection is reduced to 40% Wen they took a booster shot. They practically live on booster shots in Israel. And dat still can’t touch natural immunity. The mutation will ensure ur booster shot expire in no time.

Sorry to interject please,people are not against the vaccine (its not a vaccine anyway) people r against the mandate pls. People keep saying herd immunity as if its only achieve via vaccines we av bin design to generate dez immunity by default what tru vaccine does is stimulate u body to generate these anti bodies so u body is prepare for the disease. Whenever u r infected with any disease 1s u recover or survive u av build some level of immunity against dat disease.
Labelling people conspiracy theory doesn't make 1 intelligent but diminishes u point of argument.pls try read this article https://guardian.ng/opinion/what-to-know-about-the-covid-19-vaccine/ if u disagree then I support u more learned than a Professor then.

Workch:
The study released by Pfizer before the vaccination started already stated that their vaccine has 92% efficacy rate. So no one was expecting everyone to be perfectly covered, the study already stated that. It's expected that the 8% deficit will show

So what's new? What other conspiracies do you have?

effort1:




Of course, you have enough misfortune on your plate already.

So, eat drink and be depressed

Are you emotionally traumatized from what happened to your mother IN-LAW?

Workch:
The vaccine is not given by Nigerian government but by WHO and international NGO, government only helps with facilities.

Tell WHO to instruct Nigeria pharmaceutical companies to distribute malaria vaccine instead of covid-19. By way there is high recovery rate in Nigeria and many parts of Africa.

Godszilla:
Sorry to interject please,people are not against the vaccine (its not a vaccine anyway) people r against the mandate pls. People keep saying herd immunity as if its only achieve via vaccines we av bin design to generate dez immunity by default what tru vaccine does is stimulate u body to generate these anti bodies so u body is prepare for the disease. Whenever u r infected with any disease 1s u recover or survive u av build some level of immunity against dat disease.
Labelling people conspiracy theory doesn't make 1 intelligent but diminishes u point of argument.pls try read this article https://guardian.ng/opinion/what-to-know-about-the-covid-19-vaccine/ if u disagree then I support u more learned than a Professor then.

That's because people don't know how "herd immunity" works.

Science is not very easy for everyone to grasp, so you don't expect the govenrment to start lecturing everyone again on herd immunity after they all did biology in school and didn't learn it.

For the purpose of heed immunity, reasonable governments like France, U.K, CHINA, Isreal etc have mandated vaccine. They know what they are doing

Workch:
Yes, by scientifically illiterate and grossly misinformed people, mostly for religious reasons.

Really, you mean that thousands of people that protest against the thing are well misinformed. That's to say, even when you see a patient to die after partaken of the vaccine, you can go ahead a take it yourself?

edoairways:

Tell WHO to instruct Nigeria pharmaceutical companies to distribute malaria vaccine instead of covid-19. By way there is high recovery rate in Nigeria and many parts of Africa.

Malaria vaccine hasn't been developed sir. It's difficult to develop malaria vaccine because of the complicated life cycle of the parasite.

It's basic biology, it was taught in secondary school.

Thebigheart:


Really, you mean that thousands of people that protest against the thing are well misinformed. That's to say, even when you see a patient to die after partaken of the vaccine, you can go ahead a take it yourself?

No scientifically knowledgeable person who understands basic microbiology joins such ignorant protest

Workch:
Yes, by scientifically illiterate and grossly misinformed people, mostly for religious reasons.

American's that you cannot brainwash from the religious angle are now easily misinformed by religious reasons?

Krismas:
Ofcourse I read it. 80% chance of reinfection is reduced to 40% Wen they took a booster shot. They practically live on booster shots in Israel. And dat still can’t touch natural immunity. The mutation will ensure ur booster shot expire in no time.

If you and other had taken the vaccine, we won't be dealing with a delta variant.
It's bacis biology and very simple

Please this things is not a vaccine o it gene therapy this where the real issue is. Pls pls try read this article its either the Prof is an olodo or a conspiracy theorist.

https://guardian.ng/opinion/what-to-know-about-the-covid-19-vaccine/

Workch:
That's because people don't know how "herd immunity" works.

Science is not very easy for everyone to grasp, so you don't expect the govenrment to start lecturing everyone again on herd immunity after they all did biology in school and didn't learn it.

For the purpose of heed immunity, reasonable governments like France, U.K, CHINA, Isreal etc have mandated vaccine. They know what they are doing

Thebigheart:


American's that you cannot brainwash from the religious angle are now easily misinformed by religious reasons?

You live under a rock bro.
Americans have ignorant people as well. Maybe you should join Quora to see how stupid alot of them are.

Almost half of Americans voted Trump. It's speaks volume of what's going on there.

Godszilla:
Please this things is not a vaccine o it gene therapy this where the real issue is. Pls pls try read this article its either the Prof is an olodo or a conspiracy theorist.

https://guardian.ng/opinion/what-to-know-about-the-covid-19-vaccine/

All vaccines are Gene therapy including polio and BCG that everyone born in the hospital from 80s including you until date took.

Don't talk about vaccine if you don't know biology

Malaria vaccine has been developed n recently approved by WHO. Am surprised u dis great intelkect doesn't no dis,pls read n keep usef updated

Workch:
Malaria vaccine hasn't been developed sir. It's difficult to develop malaria vaccine because of the complicated life cycle of the parasite.

It's basic biology, it was taught in secondary school.

Let those who want the vaccine take it and stop disturbing others. Let them be vaccinated, we will wait for natural immunity. I wonder why it is so difficult for them to agree unless they are up to something else

Godszilla:
Malaria vaccine has been developed n recently approved by WHO. Am surprised u dis great intelkect doesn't no dis,pls read n keep usef updated

Yes, but it hasn't been properly researched for commercial use. I should keep myself updated, you don't even know how vaccines work dude

Still under study

Godszilla:
Malaria vaccine has been developed n recently approved by WHO. Am surprised u dis great intelkect doesn't no dis,pls read n keep usef updated

It's amazing Workch does not know that a malaria vaccine is out.

Workch:
Still under study

COVID vaccine should also fall under that.

Tdoctor:


It's amazing Workch does not know that a malaria vaccine is out.

Of course I am aware. It's not available for commercial use, still under clinical studies.

Where have you seen anybody administering malaria vaccine?

Like I said am not d 1 talking it's a Professor talking it's either u no more than d Professor or....
It's your choice anyway this thing is not a vaccine nin it true sense

Workch:
All vaccines are Gene therapy including polio and BCG that everyone born in the hospital from 80s including you until date took.

Don't talk about vaccine if you don't know biology

Tdoctor:


COVID vaccine should also fall under that.

No because you are poor in biology, you do not realize that Coronaviruses do not have complicated life cycle like malaria parasite hence its easier to make vaccines for them.

Godszilla:
Like I said am not d 1 talking it's a Professor talking it's either u no more than d Professor or....
It's your choice anyway this thing is not a vaccine nin it true sense

Because a professor said it doesn't make it correct. That's appealing to authority.

I'm an expert in this field myself and I'm saying vaccines work and you are deny it for religious reasons

Righteousness2:
Not only the compulsory vaccination!
The whole Package itself is from the Deep Pit of Hell!

Everything that was called Conspiracy theory is now playing out live.

Look at what is Happening allover the World ! Mandates are Sweeping through the Nations , People are losing their Jobs, People are not allowed into places all because of a so called Vaccine.

You cannot see a thing that Fully is taking the Shape of the Beast System Package as written in the Holy Bible, and yet you are Blind to it and giving reason for this and that!

Revelation 13
16 And he causeth all( Mandates All), both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Wake up Folks! There is no more time!
Everything is so Clear except you wanna Deceive yourself!
The agents of the Beast are raging to Burst out on the Scene.
Watch out for your soul! JESUS IS COMING QUICKLY!
If you are careless to Miss the Rapture, it will be so Unfortunate as it will be Hell on Earth.

Oga, keep shut right there. If vaccination is from the pit of hell, do miracle to clear the virus na, shebi na pastor you be. Bunch of liars parading as christians. Ever since the pandemic started, not even one of your role models and cohorts have attempted to do a miracle to cure the virus, yet, dem go dey lie for national tv say dem cure AIDS. Una charade never end now?

They way pro-vaccination people are so vehement about the thing, I'm wondering if you guys are not being paid to do this. Enjoy your arguments and your superiority. Take care

Workch:
Because a professor said it doesn't make it correct. That's appealing to authority.

I'm an expert in this field myself and I'm saying vaccines work and you are deny it for religious reasons

How many years have you been in the field - up to 20 years? 30 years? If not, then you cannot speak authoritatively on the subject. You must allow for room that you may be wrong.

So here is the full article pls try read n open u need.

What to know about the COVID-19 ‘vaccine’
By MC Asuzu
16 September 2021 | 3:03 am

Nigeria as part of the modern world is passing through one of the most frightful eras of a rather strange disease epidemic that human beings have experienced since the beginning of time. Because this epidemic is happening all over the world at the same time, it is called a pandemic. And because the disease is spreading all over the world by the high rate of international travels, the local control of the disease in each country must keep conscious of how it is going in all other countries in order to be able to protect their citizens from such international importations.

Obviously, situations like these keep many people in authority under pressure; and if we are not careful, they will make many unsound but superficially reasonable decisions and carry out such actions thereof.


In addition to this global situation, there has been very much talk, mostly political on the control methods and practices. Some of these have been with not enough solid, essential, and especially reasonably holistic science. Unfortunately, this has been the greatest on the biochemical product that is being propagated all over the world as “COVID-19 vaccine”. No doubt, many people in the medical and health sciences who are employed by the government agencies that are involved in these world political programmes have felt obligated to join in promoting these not fully and truly ethical programmes and in exactly the ways that the governments are presenting or asking them to present it. However, those of us who are involved in the fundamental science of medicine and of public health, known as Epidemiology, and especially those of us also concerned about ethics as well as employed where we can exercise the full rights and privileges of our science and profession, must hasten to educate one and all in the real sciences of vaccines and the disease control principles as related to the COVID-19 pandemics. In this way, everybody should understand and be able to make up their minds on where to stand in the controversies erupting in these regards. They should do so with great understanding for everyone and no animosities or negativisms of any sort.

Now, as a public health expert myself, and most obviously purely by the very grace of God, we are happy of our duty as well as to inform all and sundry, that generally, vaccination is the next best control of any infectious disease, often only just next to its very complete eradication. But that is only if what one is talking about is truly a vaccine. Such a vaccine, however, has many other yardsticks to meet, if it is to be such a useful vaccine.


Of course, not all vaccines are very useful; mainly because of failures to meet these requirements of true effectiveness as such. The disease sometimes may be one in which there happen to be other measures that may be more important or more effective than the given vaccine in relation to the relevant properties of that vaccine as already mentioned. All these have to be understood before a responsible government and her ethically and scientifically minded (i.e., more than being merely politically minded) public health workers can determine the correct combination and hierarchy of these public health measures to take in relation to the given disease.

Now to come to the matter of vaccines, and as anybody can indeed Google, Yahoo, or other, electronically search engine and find out for themselves, vaccines are originally killed disease microbes (viruses, bacteria, etc). These microbes have been killed and then introduced into the human body so that the recipients can naturally develop the antibodies or other immune responses to the disease, in readiness for their being subsequently attacked by the disease. Because these microbes, at the beginning of the history of vaccines, were killed, they were not active enough in some cases and the natural immunities they helped people to develop may not be very great. So, in the second generation and class of vaccine production, diseases in which the immunities produced with dead vaccines were inadequate had to have those microbes only partially killed (or attenuated, as we say it in medical language).


In that way, when introduced into the human body, these attenuated microbes try to mimic a disease attack. But because they are attenuated, they will be unable to do so. However, they would have stimulated that recipient’s immune system enough to actively cause the development of such natural immunity to the highest degree possible for that disease. So, to date, these are the only two types of true vaccines, for what is today referred to as active immunization or vaccination. These two brands of products are what true vaccines are in the modern world! None of these have so far been produced for the current Covid-19 pandemic; even though some research laboratories are trying also to develop them!

Now, as anybody may verify for himself, even though various research bodies are still trying to develop either of these two types of true vaccines around the world, some people have gone ahead to develop what should properly be called Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs). Actually in this case, no such organisms at all have been produced, but genetically modified biomedical products; and decided to be calling them “vaccines”. These currently available “COVID-19 vaccines” are therefore not vaccines as we know it in solid science. The permission or licenses that they have received for administering it/them to any bodies are also most appropriately called EMMERGENCY (DRUG TRIAL TYPES OF EXPERIMENTAL) LICENCES. Now anybody’s genes (or genetics) are the biological basis of his personhood and inherent personality. For anybody to think that he can invade anybody’s person as such, EXCEPT WITH A DETAILED AND PROPERLY SIGNED INFORMED CONSENT, IS MOST UNETHICAL. So, everybody may indeed take this “COVID-19 vaccine”. But the proper ethical practice of medicine and the health professions requires that nobody may impose such a thing on anybody without full information and documented informed consent. So, this is where we are in regard to the present “COVID-19 vaccines” in Nigeria and the world today.


Preventive medicine, public health or community physicians, and any other health workers whose education and training are as adequate in these regards, will also know that COVID-19 is a flu (kind of common cold) virus; except that this has become one of the fast-evolving varieties of these that are tending to be fairly more debilitating and death causing. Yet, they remain still flu viruses, transmitted only by close hand and face contacts with wet or aerosol respiratory (airborne mouth and nose) human outputs for their man to man transmission.

These viruses have hardly had any vaccines with immunities lasting for more than a few months only. The immune conversion after receiving those vaccines had never been so very high either, and the virus is mutating per second per second, and before you finish with developing one vaccine another or several new varieties of the virus may also have developed, and most probably requiring a new vaccine. As many people will know, these flus are common in the temperate or cold countries of the world. So, they had developed systems of developing and using these vaccines in their yearly cycles of these flus. This is not the case with these flus in the tropics. There may be other factors that make this infection, its sustenance and severity by this flu virus not to be the case in these countries; even as the current pandemic has so resoundingly proven.

Therefore, scientifically and ethically for a reasonable public health approach to the community/country control of COVID-19 (and any other such serious flus in the tropics), the hierarchy of the control measures should be as follows:
1). Stay at home and do your work electronically from there, limiting people visiting you there too, as may be possible for you.


2). If and whenever you go out, maintain a 3 to 6 feet distance between yourself and anybody else, whether they think you are silly or not.

3). Maintain hand and face and other respiratory hygiene, washing your hands with soap and running water as often as you ever can; and if you inadvertently touch any rails, door handles or other surfaces that are easily touched by others, have an alcohol-based hand sanitizer in your pocket or bag to sanitize those hands as soonest as possible.

4). Wear a facemask properly all time outside your home and never touch its front (externally exposed) side. Do not worry about the so-called filtration efficacy of masks. Wear highly effective ones if you know them, otherwise wear anyone anyway; and remind others to do so.


5). Avail yourself of the knowledge of the officially learned signs and symptoms of COVID-19 and test readily if you think that you have them. If diagnosed as having caught some of the viruses early, simple home isolation and following the rules for the same will very easily assist you to develop the immunity you need for the disease.

6). If you would otherwise not desire to take this experimental “vaccine” because of the sound scientific and ethical knowledge of these things that you now have, but still have any other serious grounds and/or currently theorized reasons that you may still take the given risks of this “vaccine” in spite of its limitations and dangers, you may then do so.


But as you must know, the “vaccine” so far has far too many genetic unknowns about it. It does not stop you from catching or transmitting the virus; nor does it exempt you from those more fundamental preventative measures and practices that cost so little, even if it apparently may seem to need them less. If we apply these principles, as well as the “vaccination” for those who desire to do so, we should be able to control this disease both in Nigeria and worldwide in a very short time, obviously. Of the 2 first professors in the University of Ibadan who reportedly died of the recent Delta variant of the COVID-19 virus, one was reportedly fully immunized with this GMO vaccine but the other, not at all.

Meanwhile, all Nigerians must pray that the corruption and nepotism that have destroyed our internal capacity to produce vaccines internally for ourselves as we had indeed done before, may be overcome ASAP. If we all do these things faithfully, locally, and globally, this COVID-19 will be all over sooner than it would seem. So, let us do this. Let us pray also that Nigeria will be among the first countries to produce true vaccines of dead or attenuated COVID-19 virus (as well as the GMO “vaccines”) so that we may better ethically meet the needs of Nigeria and the world in these regards. Amen.

Asuzu is a retired professor of public health and community medicine at, University of Ibadan.

Workch:
Because a professor said it doesn't make it correct. That's appealing to authority.

I'm an expert in this field myself and I'm saying vaccines work and you are deny it for religious reasons

Workch:
No because you are poor in biology, you do not realize that Coronaviruses do not have complicated life cycle like malaria parasite hence its easier to make vaccines for them.

So if I agree with you, I'm good at biology but if I don't agree, I am poor at biology. In that case, please give me an F because I don't agree with you.

Thebigheart:


You get the man view, he didn't tell you not to take part of the vaccine, but forcing people to take it looks suspicious. I stand to be corrected.

Nobody is forcing anybody...the world leaders are just tilting towards herd immunity

Tdoctor:


How many years have you been in the field - up to 20 years? 30 years? If not, then you cannot speak authoritatively on the subject. You must allow for room that you may be wrong.

yes I can't speak authoritively, you are correct but I can cite data and peer reviewed studies to support my point and not some failed medical doctor pastor.

I can back all my point with verifiable data and study from thousands to millions of researches.

Tdoctor:


So if I agree with you, I'm good at biology but if I don't agree, I am poor at biology. In that case, please give me an F because I don't agree with you.

It's very simple to know why it's difficult to make vaccine for malaria parasite if you paid attention in secondary school biology.

Which area of their life cycle do you want to the vaccine to target? It's common sense