Martinez39s:
I will touch on this later, I am still writing another lengthy post. Your minset and approach is on point, but there are things concerning this I will still discuss. Let's take it slow; I am free from now till Sunday. Anything not discussed this night will be discussed tomorrow and the day after tomorrow.

Others can contribute.

charly20:
Most of what is said here is summarized in P.I.M.P

Martinez39s:
typing...

Your committed union to a woman is a game, whether you, as a man, realise it or not. Leverage and power matters a lot in your committed relationship, forget about love. You can't claim you have frame if your woman has all or most of the leverage and power. If this is the case with a man, what is the difference between him and a beta? Finally, a woman will never forgo an opportunity that will tip things in her favour, leverage- and power-wise. There is no alpha with frame that is in a position where a woman has all or most of the leverage above him, never!

All the points I made from (1) to (5) are valid. Women are usually aware of points (1) and (2) and they know how much of a safety net monogamous marriage is, so they usually relax and change after marriage, especially when kids are then involved. The thing is, as I said, as a man's committed relationship progresses from dating to marriage (with kids involved), the man's investment increases and his leverage decreases. Why? Usually his ability and willingness to easily detach himself from the union and walk away from the woman (when he should) decreases. Walking away, for many men, would mean raising up their children in broken homes, giving free room for parental alienation (I will touch this later) and/or seeing all the investments and sacrifices they've made during marriage go to dust. It's not that easy for many men; also, the mindset of men that sees marriage as a point of no return or do-or-die affair don't help the issue. When you are in a position with a woman where you cannot easily or even walk away, it is a beta position. She can't see you as an alpha male, because an alpha male, to a woman, has the ability and willingness to walk away.

To keep things going and to maintain harmony and peace, many men start making compromises by giving in to certain requests from their wives and enduring attitudinal changes from their wives. These seems harmless and inconsequential at first, but it is a sign of more headache and regrets to come. Men do these because they want "peace to reign." Men are compelled to do this for reasons I have mentioned earlier and, also, because women, in their self-centeredness are willing to remain stubborn even if it means turning the family upside-down to get their way. We have see many women place their clash and disagreements with their spouse above the wellbeing of their children just to prove a point or get back at their spouse (we see this in custody battles). Men, in order to maintain peace and possibly be the better and mature individual, start making compromises for "peace to reign." Such compromises cracks the man's frame and it only gets worse from here.

Alphas, by nature, don't compromise for women; it is how the game goes. It doesn't matter if your compromise is justified or not. Compromise is compromise to a woman. How can you claim to be her alpha with frame if she can get you to start making compromises to ensure "happy wife, happy life" due to a situation you found yourself in with her?


typing...

Jessepaid:
Hehehe...

I have a friend I introduced to the Rp platforms recently...


Shits been going well for him too....


Issue here is...



His parents want him to get married as his eldest bro refused to marry...



and he is just around 25years...


His parents are panicking because his mom initially gave birth to five kids...



Two of which were well into adulthood when they became late...


Remaining his elder bro, him and his younger sis...


The parents are willing to sponsor the marriage, gift him a car and a piece of land and give him funds to start up any business of his choice...


The catch is for him to bring them a lady he wants to marry so that he can start a family and they can have grand children..


Me sef dey use one eye dey weigh the matter...

BLOODYSPERM:
Jeez

Like the way jessepaid says hehehehe

Illumined9933:
If you are going to be a redpiller cos you want to get girls, you might be disappointed. If you are going to be a redpiller cos you want to save your relationship, the redpill might actually speed up the break up process.

There are self acclaimed redpillers who like to claim the redpill tag, but would question the redpill ideology when the lady they want rejects them, even after they applied some little redpill knowledge they learned from the internet. And there are redpillers who have internalized the redpill ideology to such an extent that their views on the redpill goes beyond getting or attracting ladies. These ones have become the redpill. The redpill lives in them and they live in the redpill. The redpill doesn't makes no promises that the lady would be yours, but it does promise that you would be emotionally stable without her.

If your reason for embracing the redpill is just so you attract women, at some point, the redpill will disappoint you. The redpill always provides these tests to differentiate the fake from the real.

Martinez39s:
Hehehe.

Well, It's taking me some time to properly articulate my thoughts effectively to the understanding of everyone. I have been busy throughout the week, so I just started my writing this evening. Hopefully, things will take form tomorrow. It's a really lengthy discussion, and I will have to get a lot ready this night for tomorrow's discussion.

I will appreciate counter-arguments and contribution from others. I am not done yet.

Martinez39s:

@JESHAL

I will continue my discussing tomorrow, I am in need of rest. I will come with more posts tomorrow. Pardon me for the short discussion today.

Martinez39s:

@JESHAL

I will continue my discussing tomorrow, I am in need of rest. I will come with more posts tomorrow. Pardon me for the short discussion today.

Smartb0y:
you're making crave like women

Martinez39s:
I don't understand. Can you paraphrase to my understanding?

Smartb0y:
We yearn for more knowledge lol

Illumined9933:
If you are going to be a redpiller cos you want to get girls, you might be disappointed. If you are going to be a redpiller cos you want to save your relationship, the redpill might actually speed up the break up process.

There are self acclaimed redpillers who like to claim the redpill tag, but would question the redpill ideology when the lady they want rejects them, even after they applied some little redpill knowledge they learned from the internet. And there are redpillers who have internalized the redpill ideology to such an extent that their views on the redpill goes beyond getting or attracting ladies. These ones have become the redpill. The redpill lives in them and they live in the redpill. The redpill doesn't make no promises that the lady would be yours, but it does promise that you would be emotionally stable without her.

If your reason for embracing the redpill is just so you attract women, at every point, the redpill will disappoint you. The redpill always provides these tests to differentiate the fake from the real.
Being an ardent redpiller could be a painful reality. But the dedicated students go through the pain and become accustomed to this pain, to a point where they don't feel hurt anymore. Almost like they become numb to hardships the ordinary man would cry over, almost like they lost the ability to bother about a lady walking away from them. At this point is when the real magic of the redpill happens , they have become those sort of stoic men women desire and would do anything for.. These ones are the real redpilled males, not some guy trying to save his relationship by applying redpill nuggets. If you aren't okay with losing your dearly beloved girlfriend, you aren't far gone in the redpill ideology.

GODWINGODSON:

Name some of these shows for me bro

Illumined9933:
The lady I have been with, we actually had a quarrel, and haven't spoken for over 2 weeks. I just met her now, and she says she doesn't want me anymore. I didn't pressure her to stay, cos I actually know she is probably fuccking some new guy who is making her excited, reason she's okay with walking out of the relationship. If i had no knowledge of the redpill, I'd be begging her and trying to make her understand why we should still be together, but this would do me no good.
A simp would probably beg her to continue, and this would provide leverage for her to manipulate him till he loses every shred of self esteem in him.

At the very least, i have the peace of knowing we won't be together anymore. I can't be worried or ruminating about someone who won't be in my life in any capacity. This is just an example of how the redpill has saved me from emotional distress.

I'm happy I'm not repeating a mistake I made in 2018, wherein I was begging a girl I was in a relationship with for 3+ years to be with me and she declined outrightly. It wasn't the fact that she left that actually did damage, but the hope I had of her coming back was actually what took peace away from my life.

Ronnnie:

From this post it seems you really like her to bring it here....
Redpill never forbids you from liking a girl,but always teaches you to use logic in dealing with them And not emotions..
Stoicism teaches us that there are things in life you can't control(you girlfriend ending the relationship) but you can control your reaction to those things(you letting her go without begging)..That's the true strength of a man...
I can assure you she will be back(okafor's law will still take place)but never take her back.,if not she will do worse

Illumined9933:
You might think it is a joke, but I don't want her back. We've enjoyed sex plenty times together and that kinda made me attached/bonded with her. Babe is now fucckking another guy and I can't be bothered. I'm honestly not interested in having her back, already blocked her on WhatsApp, and I hope she doesn't call me ever again. We started out around may last year, and as for okafor's law, I'm not interested in having any sort of dealings with her.

Something a bitch called yemisi taught me in 2018, once a woman says she wants no more, don't argue or appeal to her, just let her go.

ma373733:
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Jerry59:
Lol, it is what it is!

ma373733:
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Meedon:


He never see anything.

Smartb0y:
funny enough,he'll marry another bitch that'll still rip him off.

JESHAL:
@Martinez39s, good afternoon, regarding our discussion yesterday, I made reference to Rollo as an outlier and Redpiller still keeping his marriage intact in that their Society, it's crazy how he's doing it but in a it makes us hopeful( i know it's against logic to rely on these) but will like you to further dig into the discussion, may be it's his redpill frame that keeping his relationship, I can't really say

Martinez39s:
I am typing a post. I haven't forgotten our discussion. This discussion might take weeks. It's an impromptu discussion and I just started writing since you and others were interested. Bare with me.

CaveAdullam:
DAY 289, REDPILL 2021

1. You must appreciate your small wins as a man before you get hold of the trophy. If eventually you aren't able to claim the trophy, at least you know you made some wins.

2. You don't need to feel less about these small wins because of any woman. Yes, women stand at the finished line to claim the winners(evolutionary understandable), but that is a lazy attitude. Women cannot appreciate small wins because they are myopic, hence, will never be taken seriously or contribute meaningfully to civilization at large. Exceptions do occur, but the vapidity of women in general ensures that their vestiges are hardly seen in any innovation except in reproduction.

3. You ought not to neglect your small wins or wear a grimaced face all day long because of her shortsightedness to see what's beyond.

4. The burden of performance is upon you but you are not doing so to get her glued to you even though it does, but to stand tall amongst other winners and be able to beat your chest like a silver back gorilla, that yes, you made it above all odds. And every win is not solely to prove a point but to prove a point("hey you young lady, go fvck yourself, ain't going to chase you in detriment to my small wins and trophy. Ain't going to get ashamed or get depressed. Everything I do is for myself, like it or not, I can do without you".

Authority: take charge of your life.