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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by popizaino(m): 4:15pm On Oct 16, 2021
vaxx:
I will always disagree with you... Abidjan is never develop than Accra and so is Lagos . But maybe more buildings which was a direct result of more population.

What Accra has over this places is just PR grin or else Accra would struggle to meet up with Lome self,talk more of Lagos and Abidjan. Outside the tiny Airport area down to cantoment the majority of the whole accra is what one could easily described as a slumpolis. Accra that is like market centre, dust everywhere as if it's a mining town.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 4:22pm On Oct 16, 2021
popizaino:


What Accra has over this places is just PR grin or else Accra would struggle to meet up with Lome self,talk more of Lagos and Abidjan. Outside the tiny Airport area down to cantoment the majority of the whole accra is what one could easily described as a slumpolis. Accra that is like market centre, dust everywhere as if it's a mining town.
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 4:22pm On Oct 16, 2021
popizaino:


What Accra has over this places is just PR grin or else Accra would struggle to meet up with Lome self,talk more of Lagos and Abidjan. Outside the tiny Airport area down to cantoment the majority of the whole accra is what one could easily described as a slumpolis. Accra that is like market centre, dust everywhere as if it's a mining town.
Here you are with the usual rubbish

I wonder the Accra you are referring to
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 4:24pm On Oct 16, 2021
popizaino:


What Accra has over this places is just PR grin or else Accra would struggle to meet up with Lome self,talk more of Lagos and Abidjan. Outside the tiny Airport area down to cantoment the majority of the whole accra is what one could easily described as a slumpolis. Accra that is like market centre, dust everywhere as if it's a mining town.
this is intended to redicule the city . Anyway it is not true, east legon, west legon , abelekmpe, roman ridge , tressaco and some I can't easily remember upfront are considerably to any developed City.( They are not cantonment or airport city) And I can tell you , you will have to be well loaded to live in those areas .

Abidjan and Lagos as you are trying to project as nothing over Accra apart from the vast presence of commerce in Lagos which was a result of population .

As for Togo, lome is not doing bad lately, until it cashed up with northern Ghana capital Tamali then I will consider your seriousness.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 4:40pm On Oct 16, 2021
grin grin grin
I wonder why everyone is going into the City..... 1.30pm and the City is already locked down with traffic..

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by popizaino(m): 5:00pm On Oct 16, 2021
Just30:
there was no house even at that time without toilet... Massive rural migration in the late 90s is what brought those nonsense as people were scrambling for places in Accra.

Anyway when I find that documentary again, I will send it to you. Seems you want to clear your eye top.

It should be on YouTube or in their broadcasting archives...


Drop it here when you see it .
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Roan77: 5:00pm On Oct 16, 2021
Lagos of 1960's.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 5:02pm On Oct 16, 2021
popizaino:



Drop it here when you see it .
I'll quote this comment

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 5:11pm On Oct 16, 2021
Just30:
grin grin grin
I wonder why everyone is going into the City..... 1.30pm and the City is already locked down with traffic..

If only this current useless Government would invest in the transport sector in Accra, Tema, and Kumasi the Traffic situation would be much better
we need
Serious BRT system
Skytrain/monorail/Underground trains wateva

The traffic situation in Accra, Tema and Kumasi cities is so so annoying undecided undecided
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 5:25pm On Oct 16, 2021
vankelvin:


If only this current useless Government would invest into the transport sector in Accra, Tema, Kumasi the Traffic situation in these cities would be much better
we need
Serious BRT system
Skytrain/monorail/Underground trains wateva

The traffic situation in Accra, Tema and Kumasi cities is sometimes annoying undecided undecided
They are but it hasn't solved it...
Tema does not have traffic...The motorway has....


The problem is, every year, car ownership increase by a massive number as young people join the middle class... But the roads can't widen up..

The demographic of people owning cars current are not the ones who are willing to park their cars and join public transport...

Moving around with public transport is super expensive..
An in and out journey from Kasoa to Tema cost 30 cedis. Meanwhile if I move my car, a journey like that is convenient and will only cost me less than 70 for fuel...
My young sis spend 25 cedis a day in and out to UPSA... So I will most definitely use my car to drop her off when ever I'm around because it is cost effective and convenient..

BRT, monorail, Sky train and etc will not solve that unless they are willing to drop fares below...
They won't be able to drop fares because transport unions will protest and sue on unfair practice grounds.


Now tell me which you prefer ....
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by popizaino(m): 5:29pm On Oct 16, 2021
vaxx:
this is intended to redicule the city . Anyway it is not true, east legon, west legon , abelekmpe, roman ridge , tressaco and some I can't easily remember upfront are considerably to any developed City.( They are not cantonment or airport city) And I can tell you , you will have to be well loaded to live in those areas .

Abidjan and Lagos as you are trying to project as nothing over Accra apart from the vast presence of commerce in Lagos which was a result of population .

As for Togo, lome is not doing bad lately, until it cashed up with northern Ghana capital Tamali then I will consider your seriousness.


No one is ridiculing Accra and I won't deny the city hasn't seen a lot of development in recent years but to say it is more developed than her counterparts in the sub region is disingenuous itself. The dust and general unorganised nature of the city itself will always give it away. Accra is only hyped as been developed by Ghanaians themselves or foreigners who haven't taken time to visit other African countries, but the moment they do, all this hype begin to fade away and I have seen this play out so many times on comment sections of most blogs and videos.Until Accra begin to flush those informal trading that is seen at every nook and cranny of the city and put measures on zoning, paving of inner roads it will always be playing catch up to Lagos and Abidjan.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by popizaino(m): 5:29pm On Oct 16, 2021
Roan77:
Lagos of 1960's.



grin grin grin grin

I see what you did there .

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 5:34pm On Oct 16, 2021
Just30:
They are but it hasn't solved it...
Tema does not have traffic...The motorway has....


The problem is, every year, car ownership increase by a massive number as young people join the middle class... But the roads can't widen up..

The demographic of people owning cars current are not the ones who are willing to park their cars and join public transport...

Moving around with public transport is super expensive..
An in and out journey from Kasoa to Tema cost 30 cedis. Meanwhile if I move my car, a journey like that is convenient and will only cost me less than 70 for fuel...
My young sis spend 25 cedis a day in and out to UPSA... So I will most definitely use my car to drop her off when ever I'm around because it is cost effective and convenient..

BRT, monorail, Sky train and etc will not solve that unless they are willing to drop fares below...

Now tell me which you prefer ....

The boldened, it surely will. Effective train system will reduce traffic in these cities.

Did I hear you say there's no traffic in Tema? You don't mean it.
Tema-Dorwenya traffic is always terrible.

Car ownership will increase every year so we need an effective public transport system which can transport many people as possible to their destinations.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by popizaino(m): 5:35pm On Oct 16, 2021
Just30:
grin grin grin
I wonder why everyone is going into the City..... 1.30pm and the City is already locked down with traffic..
Last week traffic was mad, never seen the type before, left tudu at exact 5:42pm and by 8: 30pm I was just approaching coal station at achimota .whatever you do avoid going to Accra on Mondays and on fridays grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 5:37pm On Oct 16, 2021
Some desperate people down there need some attention and they will surely get what they want. cool grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by popizaino(m): 5:38pm On Oct 16, 2021
Abidjan for your viewing pleasure.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9sUTNozlM4

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 5:48pm On Oct 16, 2021
vankelvin:


The boldened, it surely will. Effective train system will reduce traffic in these cities.

Did I hear you say there's no traffic in Tema? You don't mean it.
Tema-Dorwenya traffic is always terrible.

Car ownership will increase every year so we need an effective public transport system which can transport many people as possible to their destinations.

Dorwenya is outside Tema

We already have public transport system and it's effective..

The problem is, no one wants to be inconvenienced.
Public transport inconvenience people and no one currently wants that....

You can go and listen to why people stopped parking their cars at the Achimota transport yard and joining Aayalolo buses.

They said it was inconveniencing them because it wasn't dropping them Infront of their offices.. Hence they had to walk a kilometer or 2
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 5:52pm On Oct 16, 2021
popizaino:

Last week traffic was mad, never seen the type before, left tudu at exact 5:42pm and by 8: 30pm I was just approaching coal station at achimota .whatever you do avoid going to Accra on Mondays and on fridays grin
Also avoid going into Accra on a Saturday After morning..

My brother left Nungua at 4pm in is own car and hot to Kasoa at 8pm on a Friday last week... Using Spintex


Anyway I must add, the Spintex 10 lanes road under construction is 50% complete.
And also, the 27Km Tema Nungua 10 lanes beach road is 20 to 30% complete.

Soon, the 26Km motorway expansion will start to remove the current motorway traffic..

Also, the expansion of your road that you currently use, all the way to Pokuasi will start next year..
It will start from where the current 10 or 14 lanes road converts into a 4 lanes Highway
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 5:56pm On Oct 16, 2021
popizaino:
Abidjan for your viewing pleasure.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9sUTNozlM4


plateau is just too old and with lot of dilapidated buildings from Ivory Coast constant crisis.

Anyway, I will be there again in December or January for a project.

Abidjan will be a beautiful city if it can attract the investment it require to upgrade stuffs.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 6:02pm On Oct 16, 2021
My take on this issue.

Per the little I know, cities in West Africa in the 70's to the early 90's were not that great nor bad either. Surely Abidjan and Dakar were up there(All thanks to France). Lagos just as Accra were okay. Non was super nor above the other.

Lagos City transformation started under Governor Babatunde Fashola in the 2000's and Lagos has developed into what it is today.

Abidjan and Dakar on the other hand have not seen much development like it did in the 80's and 90's. If you compare these two Francophone cities of 90's and 2021 to Accra and Lagos of 90's and 2021, it's only a desperate i^dio^t(an asylum seeker) who has no hope for his fatherland, who lives in another man's country will say Abidjan and Dakar are developed than Accra.
Maybe you want to compare their old infrastructures to the modern infrastructures of Accra.

If it's about city planning, my answer will always be the same, Accra planning isnt that great, but for development! unless you are blind and a hater.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 6:08pm On Oct 16, 2021
popizaino:
Abidjan for your viewing pleasure.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9sUTNozlM4



You are a certified i^diot.
How do you compare these old towers to the infrastructures in Accra?

Let's help you here.. Infrastructure vrs infrastructure, let's compare Accra to Abidjan.

From
Road
Health
Communities
Market, school, water, electricity, etc. Let's pick it one after the other and let's see how Abidjan fares against Accra..

At your age you still think infrastructure is all about high rise buildings? Olosho

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 6:10pm On Oct 16, 2021
Just30:
Dorwenya is outside Tema

We already have public transport system and it's effective..

The problem is, no one wants to be inconvenienced.
Public transport inconvenience people and no one currently wants that....

You can go and listen to why people stopped parking their cars at the Achimota transport yard and joining Aayalolo buses.

They said it was inconveniencing them because it wasn't dropping them Infront of their offices.. Hence they had to walk a kilometer or 2

I said Tema to Dorwenya road. The traffic starts from the new Tema Interchange area through Dorwenya and ends at Prampram junction.
I use that road often so I know what I'm talking about.. The traffic situation there is terrible
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 6:14pm On Oct 16, 2021
vankelvin:


I said Tema to Dorwenya road. The traffic starts from the new Tema Interchange area through Dorwenya and ends at Prampram junction.
I use that road often so I know what I'm talking about.. The traffic situation there is terrible
The traffic starts outside of Tema...
Just after we're the road narrows...
That area has some of the worse traffic in Accra ..

Has the expansion begun ?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 6:22pm On Oct 16, 2021
Just30:
The traffic starts outside of Tema...
Just after we're the road narrows...
That area has some of the worse traffic in Accra ..

Has the expansion begun ?


Not yet.
The last time I travelled that road was just September ending.

My next trip on that road will be in December..
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 6:28pm On Oct 16, 2021
popizaino:


No one is ridiculing Accra and I won't deny the city hasn't seen a lot of development in recent years but to say it is more developed than her counterparts in the sub region is disingenuous itself. The dust and general unorganised nature of the city itself will always give it away. Accra is only hyped as been developed by Ghanaians themselves or foreigners who haven't taken time to visit other African countries, but the moment they do, all this hype begin to fade away and I have seen this play out so many times on comment sections of most blogs and videos.Until Accra begin to flush those informal trading that is seen at every nook and cranny of the city and put measures on zoning, paving of inner roads it will always be playing catch up to Lagos and Abidjan.
informal sector is an anchor of development in west africa state and it is presence in every part of west africa including cape verde which might be considered most developed west africa state .

I will not say Accra is better than Lagos neither will I say Lagos is better than Accra but indeed at this time, private sector are actually doing well in Accra , and the real estate development is catching up comparable to many africa city. Per development, Accra has supercede Abidjan long time ago. By fitchratings, the construction and industry value of Ghana is currently worth 9billion and that of ivory coast is around 5 billion dollar. Per capital wise , Ghana even did well than both Nigeria and kenya which are 55 and 10 billion respectively.

Informal sector in Ghana has come to stay as it is seen as one of the most effective way to relax extreme hunger and poverty. Government should rather developed a framework that will help in developing informal market so that both employee and employer can be carry along in the development of the country and again , the kind of informal market established in Kumasi is also needed in Accra . Four of it in Accra and two in Kumasi can be very interesting.

Construction Industry and Value

Nigeria - $55 billion

Ghana - $9 billion

Ivory Coast - $5 billion

Kenya - $10 billion

Ethiopia - $26 billion

Source: @FitchRatings

This is kejetia market in Kumasi . It is purely informal. Likewise , I agree with you on the paving of inner roads .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sod3tYI-fEM

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 6:29pm On Oct 16, 2021
vankelvin:
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Not yet.
The last time I travelled that road was just September ending.

My next trip on that road will be in December..
As more and more people are building in Dawhenya and Prampram , that road traffic will only get worse until the road is completely expanded..
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 6:34pm On Oct 16, 2021
Just30:
As more and more people are building in Dawhenya and Prampram , that road traffic will only get worse until the road is completely expanded..

Hope they start the expansion works soon cos the traffic situation from the Tema stretch through Dorwenya is so bad
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 6:38pm On Oct 16, 2021
vankelvin:


Hope they start the expansion works soon cos the traffic situation from the Tema stretch through Dorwenya is so bad
it is good that the state is focus of expanding all the Accra outskirt roads Because of how expansive all those outskirt communities have become..

Now it seems the most road projects are happening in Kumasi because it's satellite communities have also grown massively.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by popizaino(m): 6:39pm On Oct 16, 2021
vankelvin:


You are a certified i^diot.
How do you compare these old towers to the infrastructures in Accra?

Let's help you here.. Infrastructure vrs infrastructure, let's compare Accra to Abidjan.

From
Road
Health
Communities
Market, school, water, electricity, etc. Let's pick it one after the other and let's see how Abidjan fares against Accra..

At your age you still think infrastructure is all about high rise buildings? Olosho

How ironical is it that you accused me of seeking attention and then you rush to quote my mention? What sort of projection is that? Youtube comment section is filled with your rants jumping at people's mention of what you knkw nothing about. Van idiot avoid my mention if you iQ is still below Alaska room temperature. You spit a lot of jargon that shouldn't be dignify a response from any worthy person. Pls avoid me. I'm not caught up for your usual modus operandi of always splitting hair when development is talked about. Take it to your fellow idiots.

grin grin grin idiot thinks nothing is going on in abidjan, plateau is old, ikoyi is too old but nowhere in lagos compares to it .abeg take your ignorance somewhere else.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 6:46pm On Oct 16, 2021
popizaino:


How ironical is it that you accused me of seeking attention and then you rush to quote my mention?
What sort of projection is that? Youtube comment section is filled with your rants jumping at people's mention of what you knkw nothing about. Van idiot avoid my mention if you iQ is still below Alaska room temperature. You spit a lot of jargon that shouldn't be dignify a response from any worthy person. Pls avoid me. I'm not caught up for your usual modus operandi of always splitting hair when development is talked about. Take it to your fellow idiots.

grin grin grin idiot thinks nothing is going on in abidjan, plateau is old, ikoyi is too old but nowhere in lagos compares to it .abeg take your ignorance somewhere else.


I thought you will accept the challenge and start posting much pictures of Abidjan but as usual YouTube comments is what you want to base your argument on. How desperate and dumb you are.

By the way, which African country have got no negative comments on YouTube? Just mention one.

Is it Nigeria OR what? name it? waiting

The boldened.. Go read what I wrote very well, no lies

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Torture2020: 6:57pm On Oct 16, 2021
You ever heard the expression, “Monkey no fine, but e fine for him mama?”.

I have traveled around the world. I currently live in Accra. I’ve lived in other cities, including Abuja. One thing I will tell you for free is that Accra is a nice city. Just like most cities around the world, Accra has its beautiful parts and ugly parts. You can find that in every city. In Abuja there are places that are a complete eyesore, just like parts of Accra and nairobi.

For me it is childish to talk about fine cities when a country is mired in poverty, unemployment,violenc3, corruption etc etc. Oslo for example is not a mightily “beautiful “ city, but most of you will die to live in Oslo. Personally, I prefer a livable city. A city where things work. A city where security is a priority. A city that boasts of regular electricity grin a city where moving around is impossible.

your country should not build houses that are more than three story buildings. Where is the electricity to power lifts? grin

popizaino:



No one is ridiculing Accra and I won't deny the city hasn't seen a lot of development in recent years but to say it is more developed than her counterparts in the sub region is disingenuous itself. The dust and general unorganised nature of the city itself will always give it away. Accra is only hyped as been developed by Ghanaians themselves or foreigners who haven't taken time to visit other African countries, but the moment they do, all this hype begin to fade away and I have seen this play out so many times on comment sections of most blogs and videos.Until Accra begin to flush those informal trading that is seen at every nook and cranny of the city and put measures on zoning, paving of inner roads it will always be playing catch up to Lagos and Abidjan.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 7:13pm On Oct 16, 2021
It's October and Accra is this Choked

Imagine December when all house owners return to Accra with their families and move their various cars ...

Seem, some people will have to celebrate their X'Mas early grin grin grin

tongue tongue

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