Most religions today started out as cults.

Cults are actively looking for new members, just like religion.
Cults have a "sacred* meeting day, just like religion.
Getting into a cult, is easy, getting out of it is hard and could even lead to loss of life, Just like religion.
Cults believe that their own cult is the one and the only and all other cults are wrong, just like religion.
Cults have laws that must be followed no matter what, just like religion.
Cults have their own dress code, just like religion.
Cults advise parents to indoctrinate their children into the cult as early as possible, just like religion.


Feel free to add yours

SSIPON:
Most religions today started out as cults.

Cults are actively looking for new members, just like religion.
Cults have a "sacred* meeting day, just like religion.
Getting into a cult, is easy, getting out of it is hard and could even lead to loss of life, Just like religion.
Cults believe that their own cult is the one and the only and all other cults are wrong, just like religion.
Cults have laws that must be followed no matter what, just like religion.
Cults have their own dress code, just like religion.
Cults advise parents to indoctrinate their children into the cult as early as possible, just like religion.


Feel free to add yours

I don't have anything to add Sha. You've said it all, I think

Ototuz:


I don't have anything to add Sha. You've said it all, I think

It's well

Cultist

Zaxbash1:
Cultist

I think you are referring to Christians and Muslims

SSIPON:
Most religions today started out as cults.

Cults are actively looking for new members, just like religion.
Cults have a "sacred* meeting day, just like religion.
Getting into a cult, is easy, getting out of it is hard and could even lead to loss of life, Just like religion.
Cults believe that their own cult is the one and the only and all other cults are wrong, just like religion.
Cults have laws that must be followed no matter what, just like religion.
Cults have their own dress code, just like religion.
Cults advise parents to indoctrinate their children into the cult as early as possible, just like religion.


Feel free to add yours

Same for football clubs, schools, beer parlours, Ashawo and Ashawo Bases etc

Dtruthspeaker:


Same for football clubs, schools, beer parlours, Ashawo and Ashawo Bases etc

Read what I typed again boss

SSIPON:
Most religions today started out as cults.

Cults are actively looking for new members, just like religion.
Cults have a "sacred* meeting day, just like religion.
Getting into a cult, is easy, getting out of it is hard and could even lead to loss of life, Just like religion.
Cults believe that their own cult is the one and the only and all other cults are wrong, just like religion.
Cults have laws that must be followed no matter what, just like religion.
Cults have their own dress code, just like religion.
Cults advise parents to indoctrinate their children into the cult as early as possible, just like religion.


Feel free to add yours

All religions are essentially cults. Any association in which there is a form of initiations, rites, recruitment, sacrifice, promises and oaths is a cult. That is all about covenant. The root word is coven, a meeting place of brotherhood.


Any religion wants to label another cult. In which essentially, they are cults themselves. They like to harass others, claiming the are the only one, approved by God.



MaxInDHouse what do you say?

The 2 are sets of brainwashed fellows

Religion is a popular cult while cult is an unpopular religion.

True, OP

MightySparrow:

MaxInDHouse what do you say?

When people talk all you need to do is listen with the third ear so their utterances don't just travel through your brains.

What is the purpose why God established worship?
Who are those that has been involved in it in the past?
What are the expected benefits when God established worship back then?
What do people around you today expect from worship?

These people you're mingling with on Nairaland are ATHEISTS people who don't want anything to control their conscience yet they feel like living in the midst of other people and expect virtue from fellow humans. Do you think they should be taken seriously?

I often ignore them because they are deceiving themselves! Psalms 1:1


CULTS have a motive and that makes it totally different from worship, when people come together the first intention is to benefit themselves otherwise each of us should be living isolated in the forest having nothing to do with our fellow humans. But forming a society means we want to live together and help one another, not just wait until your fellowman gets into some trouble but taking the initiative to extend the friendship so that your fellowman will feel at ease around you.

So visiting one another and exchanging ideas will help you people to know how your neighbour feels towards you. That's why Jesus established a house to house uninvited visits to your neighbour {Matthew 10:10-13} what most humans concludes when they hear the word PREACH is setting standards for their neighbours but that's not the reason why Jesus commissioned preaching! He wants us to make friends with our neighbours so that you and your neighbour settle ahead issues that could lead to endless troubles in the future.
But Satan knew this will solve 99.9% of the problems facing the human society so Satan established his own to counter what Jesus commissioned. That's why most religionists today stay at a distance away throwing tantrums at their neighbours claiming they're preaching!
PREACHING simply means PLEADING with someone to reason along with you on certain thoughts so that both of you can reach a consensus not you setting up a standard and expecting your fellowman to swallow it hook line and sinker all because you added the title "GOD" to season your assertion.

So cultism entails establishing a group with the intention of gaining dominance over both members and none members, whereas religion is establishing a group with the intention of forming a close bond so as to understand one another and setting standards within the group of like minded persons.

But because Satan wants to dominate everyone the religions he initiated are for that purpose that's why they're always involved in Politics and that's why they can't find LOVE JOY and PEACE just as it befits the gathering of God's people!

MaxInDHouse:

When people talk all you need to do is listen with the third ear so their utterances don't just travel through your brains.

What is the purpose why God established worship?
Who are those that has been involved in it in the past?
What are the expected benefits when God established worship back then?
What do people around you today expect from worship?

These people you're mingling with on Nairaland are ATHEISTS people who don't want anything to control their conscience yet they feel like living in the midst of other people and expect virtue from fellow humans. Do you think they should be taken seriously?

I often ignore them because they are deceiving themselves! Psalms 1:1


CULTS have a motive and that makes it totally different from worship, when people come together the first intention is to benefit themselves otherwise each of us should be living isolated in the forest having nothing to do with our fellow humans. But forming a society means we want to live together and help one another, not just wait until your fellowman gets into some trouble but taking the initiative to extend the friendship so that your fellowman will feel at ease around you.

So visiting one another and exchanging ideas will help you people to know how your neighbour feels towards you. That's why Jesus established a house to house uninvited visits to your neighbour {Matthew 10:10-13} what most humans concludes when they hear the word PREACH is setting standards for their neighbours but that's not the reason why Jesus commissioned preaching! He wants us to make friends with our neighbours so that you and your neighbour settle ahead issues that could lead to endless troubles in the future.
But Satan knew this will solve 99.9% of the problems facing the human society so Satan established his own to counter what Jesus commissioned. That's why most religionists today stay at a distance away throwing tantrums at their neighbours claiming they're preaching!
PREACHING simply means PLEADING with someone to reason along with you on certain thoughts so that both of you can reach a consensus not you setting up a standard and expecting your fellowman to swallow it hook line and sinker all because you added the title "GOD" to season your assertion.

So cultism entails establishing a group with the intention of gaining dominance over both members and none members, whereas religion is establishing a group with the intention of forming a close bond so as to understand one another and setting standards within the group of like minded persons.

But because Satan wants to dominate everyone the religions he initiated are for that purpose that's why they're always involved in Politics and that's why they can't find LOVE JOY and PEACE just as it befits the gathering of God's people!

Forming a society and an organisation, what is the difference? Every organisation has its ideals. JW organisation is geared towards'worship' and behaving, not different from any cult. Campaign for membership, initiation, in baptism into the organisation, punishment and / disfellowshippment for errant members. Separation or segregating from the body of Christ and rest of humanity.
You say?

MightySparrow:

Forming a society and an organisation, what is the difference? Every organisation has its ideals. JW organisation is geared towards'worship' and behaving, not different from any cult. Campaign for membership, initiation, in baptism into the organisation, punishment and / disfellowshippment for errant members. Separation or segregating from the body of Christ and rest of humanity.
You say?

CULTS is about domination, Jesus created a group of humble people that's what JWs is all about!

MaxInDHouse:


CULTS is about domination, Jesus created a group of humble people that's what JWs is all about!

Lie, the scriptures talk about baptizing into Jesus,but your organisation baptize into JW organisation.

Two Questions to Be Answered on the Day of Your Baptism
Have you repented of your sins, dedicated yourself to Jehovah, and accepted his way of salvation through Jesus Christ?

Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization?




What more is a cult? I deliberately leave out references. I believe you know them.

MightySparrow:

Forming a society and an organisation, what is the difference? Every organisation has its ideals. JW organisation is geared towards 'worship'

Yes!
John 4:24 & John 9:4.

MightySparrow:

[s]and behaving, not different from any cult. [/s]
Campaign for membership, initiation, in baptism into the organisation,

Luke 9:60 & John 9:4, Acts 15:14,17.
"You must follow Me and preach the kingdom of God."

MightySparrow:

punishment and / disfellowshippment for errant members.

1 Corinthians 5:9-13, "expel the wicked man from among you"
Can Sparrow change the Bible truth?

Sparrow, what did your Pastorpreneurs do to his 40 employees?

MightySparrow:

Separation or segregating from the body of Christ and rest of humanity.
You say?

Separate from the body of 3 doghead slaves.
John 20:17 & John 17:15-16 confirmento!

MightySparrow:

Lie, the scriptures talk about baptizing into Jesus,but your organisation baptize into JW organisation.
Two Questions to Be Answered on the Day of Your Baptism
Have you repented of your sins, dedicated yourself to Jehovah, and accepted his way of salvation through Jesus Christ?
Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization?
What more is a cult? I deliberately leave out references. I believe you know them.

"Baptism into Jesus" is what you heard but do you know what it entails?

Well you asked for my opinion on what you're discussing with your friends here so if you want to talk about CULTISM i've told you the major motive of a cult group to dominate!

Now you take the two questions you want to categorize as been occultic into consideration.


Have you repented of your sins, dedicated yourself to Jehovah, and accepted his way of salvation through Jesus Christ?
Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization?

These questions comes after a thorough study of the life and ministry of Jesus Christ as it is similar to what a group Jehovah's Witnesses are PRACTICING today, so have you found any other group performing like this group? If YES then go and join them but if not it simply means that's the one and only group practicing what Jesus commissioned back in the first century.
It's not by force neither do they impose their rules on anyone, that's exactly how Jesus established his group!

Janosky:

Yes!
John 4:24 & John 9:4.
Luke 9:60 & John 9:4, Acts 15:14,17.
"You must follow Me and preach the kingdom of God." 1 Corinthians 5:9-13, "expel the wicked man from among you"
Can Sparrow change the Bible truth? Sparrow, what did your Pastorpreneurs do to his 40 employees? Separate from the body of 3 doghead slaves.
John 20:17 & John 17:15-16 confirmento!

I'm just fed up with his self deceit, he chose to argue with atheists but wants me to come and rescue him whereas he doesn't really want the truth.
If Jesus' teachings is that cheap and easy then how come his own people finds it difficult to accept his teachings?

MaxInDHouse:


"Baptism into Jesus" is what you heard but do you know what it entails?

Well you asked for my opinion on what you're discussing with your friends here so if you want to talk about CULTISM i've told you the major motive of a cult group to dominate!

Now you take the two questions you want to categorize as been occultic into consideration.


Have you repented of your sins, dedicated yourself to Jehovah, and accepted his way of salvation through Jesus Christ?
Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization?

These questions comes after a thorough study of the life and ministry of Jesus Christ as it is similar to what a group Jehovah's Witnesses are PRACTICING today, so have you found any other group performing like this group? If YES then go and join them but if not it simply means that's the one and only group practicing what Jesus commissioned back in the first century.
It's not by force neither do they impose their rules on anyone, that's exactly how Jesus established his group!

Domination?! What less is obtainable in JW organisation? All aspects of life are dictated by the GB.

Besides, baptism into Jesus. Romans 6:3; Acts 19:4.
Has Jw's Organisation replaced Jesus?.



Emphasis: baptized into Jesus.

MightySparrow:

Domination?! What less is obtainable in JW organisation? All aspects of life are dictated by the GB. Besides, baptism into Jesus. Romans 6:3; Acts 19:4.
Has Jw's Organisation replaced Jesus?.
Emphasis: baptized into Jesus.

Jesus was a humble first century Jewish teacher who speaks and teach only those that wants to learn from him. He established a group and warned that many false teachers will arise using his name to scam people.
Today millions around the world have found out that the GB of Jehovah's Witnesses are the only group doing what Jesus taught so if you don't agree nobody is forcing what the group is doing on you.
Remember Jesus' disciples referred to him as "Lord" when some people looked at him and gave him a dirty slap. The same thing is applicable today. We know that the GB are his representatives today so if you don't want to learn from them you're free to go and choose your own teachers. No wahala!

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus was a humble first century Jewish teacher who speaks and teach only those that wants to learn from him. He established a group and warned that many false teachers will arise using his name to scam people.
Today millions around the world have found out that [b]the GB of Jehovah's Witnesses [/b]are the only group doing what Jesus taught so if you don't agree nobody is forcing what the group is doing on you.
Remember Jesus' disciples referred to him as "Lord" when some people looked at him and gave him a dirty slap. The same thing is applicable today. We know that the GB are his representatives today so if you don't want to learn from them you're free to go and choose your own teachers. No wahala!

In one word, people should baptize in Jehovah's witnesses Organization?

MightySparrow:

In one word, people should baptize in Jehovah's witnesses Organization?

This was your first comment on the thread

MightySparrow:

All religions are essentially cults.
MaxInDHouse what do you say?

So if you think your religion is a cult it's OK, i only responded to you because you mentioned me!

MaxInDHouse:


This was your first comment on the thread




So if you think your religion is a cult it's OK, i only responded to you because you mentioned me!

Alright. I have experience with some of you. If I open a thread, as you once challenged, will you be honest to respond directly without beating about the bush?

MightySparrow:

Alright. I have experience with some of you. If I open a thread, as you once challenged, will you be honest to respond directly without beating about the bush?

The only problem you have with me is about Jesus having just one single global group, you find it really difficult to agree that Jesus will not endorse different religions having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines as his followers! Matthew 7:13-14
So if you want to chat with me on religion just know that my interest is in the one and only group practicing what Jesus taught, apart from that i'm not interested in fruitless arguments!

MaxInDHouse:

The only problem you have with me is about Jesus having just one single global group, you find it really difficult to agree that Jesus will not endorse different religions having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines as his followers! Matthew 7:13-14
So if you want to chat with me on religion just know that my interest is in the one and only group practicing what Jesus taught, apart from that i'm not interested in fruitless arguments!

You present yourself as the only custodian of truth, you don't want the truth challenged?

MightySparrow:

You present yourself as the only custodian of truth, you don't want the truth challenged?

Do you believe that just ONE man throughout mankind's history is the truth? John 14:6
If you do tell me but if you don't then go and practice whatever religion you wish.

MaxInDHouse:

Do you believe that just ONE man throughout mankind's history is the truth? John 14:6
If you do tell me but if you don't then go and practice whatever religion you wish.

Can't you just give direct answers?

Ok, let forget it.

SSIPON:
Most religions today started out as cults.

Cults are actively looking for new members, just like religion.
[s]Cults have a "sacred* meeting day, just like religion.[/s]
[s]Getting into a cult, is easy, getting out of it is hard and could even lead to loss of life, Just like religion.[/s]
Cults believe that their own cult is the one and the only and all other cults are wrong, just like religion.
Cults have laws that must be followed no matter what, just like religion.
[s]Cults have their own dress code, just like religion.[/s]
[s]Cults advise parents to indoctrinate their children into the cult as early as possible, just like religion.[/s]
Feel free to add yours

Christianity, as taught by Jesus Christ, does not seem to fit in well with your definition there. Maybe you should look into revising some of that.

Kobojunkie:
Christianity, as taught by Jesus Christ, does not seem to fit in well with your definition there. Maybe you should look into revising some of that.

Christianity as practiced today, fits the description properly thank you very much.

SSIPON:
Christianity as practiced today, fits the description properly thank you very much.

I am a Christian - a follower of Jesus Christ - and I practice today that which was taught by Jesus Christ over 2000 years ago.

MightySparrow:

Can't you just give direct answers?
Ok, let forget it.

I have always told you the truth but it's obvious you hate truth. Jesus is just one man with a unique character so various schools of thought can't tell me they're all following this single man. If i should accept that then i'm not being sincere with my salvation!
The one and only group of people practicing what Jesus taught is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES but if you feel different about it then let's talk!

MaxInDHouse:


I have always told you the truth but it's obvious you hate truth. Jesus is just one man with a unique character so various schools of thought can't tell me they're all following this single man. If i should accept that then i'm not being sincere with my salvation!
The one and only group of people practicing what Jesus taught is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES but if you feel different about it then let's talk!

Set the ball rolling