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Torture2020:
[s]You ever heard the expression, “Monkey no fine, but e fine for him mama?”.

I have traveled around the world. I currently live in Accra. I’ve lived in other cities, including Abuja. One thing I will tell you for free is that Accra is a nice city. Just like most cities around the world, Accra has its beautiful parts and ugly parts. You can find that in every city. In Abuja there are places that are a complete eyesore, just like parts of Accra and nairobi.

For me it is childish to talk about fine cities when a country is mired in poverty, unemployment,violenc3, corruption etc etc. Oslo for example is not a mightily “beautiful “ city, but most of you will die to live in Oslo. Personally, I prefer a livable city. A city where things work. A city where security is a priority. A city that boasts of regular electricity a city where moving around is impossible.

your country should not build houses that are more than three story buildings. Where is the electricity to power lifts? [/s]

Which infrastructure is in Accra? The small sewage network in CBD has been discontinued. The city is plagued with dumsor power cuts. Everywhere is dumpsite right to the beaches - the country is choking in plastic bags - and everywhere is hawker selling everything on earth - most of which are imported goods. Maybe the donated George Walker Bush Highway? Outside few areas - the rest is unplanned hodgepodge of buildings.

Give me Abdijan and Dakar any day. I think Ivory Coast is the most promising country in the entire west africa. Their civil war set them back 10yrs but they are back on track. Next would be senegal. Ghana is all talk and no show - it failed the kazikazi picture test.

Ghana only look good when compared with Nigeria. But Ivory Coast and Senegal are more progressive and promising.

vankelvin:
My take on this issue.

Per the little I know, cities in West Africa in the 70's to the early 90's were not that great nor bad either. Surely Abidjan and Dakar were up there(All thanks to France). Lagos just as Accra were okay. Non was super nor above the other.

Lagos City transformation started under Governor Babatunde Fashola in the 2000's and Lagos has developed into what it is today.

Abidjan and Dakar on the other hand have not seen much development like it did in the 80's and 90's. If you compare these two Francophone cities of 90's and 2021 to Accra and Lagos of 90's and 2021, it's only a desperate i^dio^t(an asylum seeker) who has no hope for his fatherland, who lives in another man's country will say Abidjan and Dakar are developed than Accra.
Maybe you want to compare their old infrastructures to the modern infrastructures of Accra.

If it's about city planning, my answer will always be the same, Accra planning isnt that great, but for development! unless you are blind and a hater.

Very nice. Abdijan and Ivory coast are doing great.

popizaino:
Abidjan for your viewing pleasure.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9sUTNozlM4

No country develop by growing informal sector - informal sector grows almost by default as poor people need to eke a living either way.

The way to growth is support informal sector to become micro-enterpises (SME) then to grow to medium enterprises then eventually to companies and hopefully to have them expand regionally or export - become multinationals.

Unless Ghana has a plan to convert informal trader to own a formal shop - that shop to become small supermarket - that supermarket to become small chain store - eventually national chain of stores - then expand regionally to say Togo or Nigeria - you're going nowhere.

Informal traders should be supported by providing them with credit,savings training and necessary support to grow.

The best way to do this is to organize them into cooperatives - like Kenya is doing. I can give you many examples of kenya cooperatives in many sectors - that have given small iinformal traders - the bargaining power or economies scales of big coorporation - have mobilized savings - provided credit - and have improved the fortunes of those traders - with some eventually become medium, large and even regional players.

vaxx:
informal sector is an anchor of development in west africa state and it is presence in every part of west africa including cape verde which might be considered most developed west africa state .

I will not say Accra is better than Lagos neither will I say Lagos is better than Accra but indeed at this time, private sector are actually doing well in Accra , and the real estate development is catching up comparable to many africa city. Per development, Accra has supercede Abidjan long time ago. By fitchratings, the construction and industry value of Ghana is currently worth 9billion and that of ivory coast is around 5 billion dollar. Per capital wise , Ghana even did well than both Nigeria and kenya which are 55 and 10 billion respectively.

Informal sector in Ghana has come to stay as it is seen as one of the most effective way to relax extreme hunger and poverty. Government should rather developed a framework that will help in developing informal market so that both employee and employer can be carry along in the development of the country and again , the kind of informal market established in Kumasi is also needed in Accra . Four of it in Accra and two in Kumasi can be very interesting.

Construction Industry and Value

Nigeria - $55 billion

Ghana - $9 billion

Ivory Coast - $5 billion

Kenya - $10 billion

Ethiopia - $26 billion

Source: @FitchRatings

This is kejetia market in Kumasi . It is purely informal. Likewise , I agree with you on the paving of inner roads .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sod3tYI-fEM

Mkenya2019:
No country develop by growing informal sector - informal sector grows almost by default as poor people need to eke a living either way.

The way to growth is support informal sector to become micro-enterpises (SME) then to grow to medium enterprises then eventually to companies and hopefully to have them expand regionally or export - become multinationals.

Unless Ghana has a plan to convert informal trader to own a formal shop - that shop to become small supermarket - that supermarket to become small chain store - eventually national chain of stores - then expand regionally to say Togo or Nigeria - you're going nowhere.

Informal traders should be supported by providing them with credit,savings training and necessary support to grow.

The best way to do this is to organize them into cooperatives - like Kenya is doing. I can give you many examples of kenya cooperatives in many sectors - that have given small iinformal traders - the bargaining power or economies scales of big coorporation - have mobilized savings - provided credit - and have improved the fortunes of those traders - with some eventually become medium, large and even regional players.

Your govt came to learn supporting micro businesses from Ghana .....

We are king in that and that is why our people are doing better.


Anyway, when will Kenyans start opening businesses so that your govt will have something to support?

The usual polemics from the resident madman.

Just30:
Your govt came to learn supporting micro businesses from Ghana .....

We are king in that and that is why our people are doing better.


Anyway, when will Kenyans start opening businesses so that your govt will have something to support?

[/quote][quote author=Mkenya2019 post=106796563]No country develop by growing informal sector - informal sector grows almost by default as poor people need to eke a living either way.

The way to growth is support informal sector to become micro-enterpises (SME) then to grow to medium enterprises then eventually to companies and hopefully to have them expand regionally or export - become multinationals.

Unless Ghana has a plan to convert informal trader to own a formal shop - that shop to become small supermarket - that supermarket to become small chain store - eventually national chain of stores - then expand regionally to say Togo or Nigeria - you're going nowhere.

Informal traders should be supported by providing them with credit,savings training and necessary support to grow.

The best way to do this is to organize them into cooperatives - like Kenya is doing. I can give you many examples of kenya cooperatives in many sectors - that have given small iinformal traders - the bargaining power or economies scales of big coorporation - have mobilized savings - provided credit - and have improved the fortunes of those traders - with some eventually become medium, large and even regional players.

It shouldn't be always about kenya vs others. Let others also juggle with the debate as we watch. On a good note bro

It will trigger some back and forth tantrums.

Mkenya2019:
The usual polemics from the resident madman.

lunatic noise when he run out of his usual lies


Learn and reduce your country despicable 40% poverty rate.

If the kitchen is too hot for you; step out; this thread is comparasion reason; Just run your life the best way you know; why on earth would you imagine you can even advice me? Like really?

Shma2020:


It shouldn't be always about kenya vs others. Let others also juggle with the debate as we watch. On a good note bro

It will trigger some back and forth tantrums.

Despite Ghana being almost arable - and with so many minerals - you have almost as serious poverty as kenya - which is barren semi-arid and arid - and with no minerals.

Just30:
lunatic noise when he run out of his usual lies


Learn and reduce your country despicable 40% poverty rate.

rvp2018:
Despite Ghana being almost arable - and with so many minerals - you have almost as serious poverty as kenya - which is barren semi-arid and arid - and with no minerals.

which previous Kenya ?

Ghana poverty is at 19%, I don't remember Kenya ever reducing poverty to this low.

Despite all of Kenya mineral resources and arable lands, it still can't raise people out of poverty because your govt is too lazy to invest in irrigation and the lands that could be used for profitable stuff have been sold to foreigners who are only interested in growing less profitable stuff like tea.

rvp2018:
If the kitchen is too hot for you; step out; this thread is comparasion reason; Just run your life the best way you know; why on earth would you imagine you can even advice me? Like really?

You can't allow us to learn something from Ivory coast? Interesting


Continue.

I havent stopped anybody from commenting; I choose when to come here; which posts to reply to; which one to ignore; I am not going to wait for you to tell me what to do or not do. I know enough of ivory coast - because if you're inquisitive - you wont wait for this thread to learn stuff - you got the internet.

I believe I have not told you or anybody else what to do with your time or post here or elsewhere.

Come in when you want, comment on stuff you want, and leave when you want.

Shma2020:


You can't allow us to learn something from Ivory coast? Interesting


Continue.

rvp2018:
I havent stopped anybody from commenting; I choose when to come here; which posts to reply to; which one to ignore; I am not going to wait for you to tell me what to do or not do. I know enough of ivory coast - because if you're inquisitive - you wont wait for this thread to learn stuff - you got the internet.

I believe I have not told you or anybody else what to do with your time or post here or elsewhere.

I said continue.....

Again you dont tell me to continue - I can choose not to. You simply f.off. if you have nothing to contribute. I am here as myself - not appendage or a team - I am here to share my knolwedge and to sometimes (rarely) learn.

Shma2020:


I said continue.....

rvp2018:
Again you dont tell me to continue - I can choose not to. You simply f.off. if you have nothing to contribute. I am here as myself - not appendage or a team - I am here to share my knolwedge and to sometimes (rarely) learn.

I didn't go hard on you. I don't know why you're hyperventilating.

That you still have povery of 19 % with gold for all those centuries in a sacrielege. When it come to gdp per capita - kenya and ghan are now pretty close - the same with HDI.

Just30:
which previous Kenya ?

Ghana poverty is at 19%, I don't remember Kenya ever reducing poverty to this low.

Despite all of Kenya mineral resources and arable lands, it still can't raise people out of poverty because your govt is too lazy to invest in irrigation and the lands that could be used for profitable stuff have been sold to foreigners who are only interested in growing less profitable stuff like tea.

It simple. Learn not to tell people what to do or not do. When you do that - you life will become much better.

Shma2020:


I didn't go hard on you. I don't know why you're hyperventilating.

rvp2018:
Again you dont tell me to continue - I can choose not to. You simply f.off. if you have nothing to contribute. I am here as myself - not appendage or a team - I am here to share my knolwedge and to sometimes (rarely) learn.

Calm down bruh.

rvp2018:
It simple. Learn not to tell people what to do or not do.

Honestly speaking, I was already enjoying the show between Ghana vs Ivory coast... ... Anyway... No biggie

What is there to enjoy with obtuse Ghanians just blurting nonsense on every post that touch Ghana.

Shma2020:


Honestly speaking, I was already enjoying the show between Ghana vs Ivory coast... ... Anyway... No biggie

rvp2018:
That you still have povery of 19 % with gold for all those centuries in a sacrielege. When it come to gdp per capita - kenya and ghan are now pretty close - the same with HDI.

Mineral is not what raise people out of poverty, Market does.

When you do the, the you'll realize why Africa has such level of poverty ...

How will Ghana reduce it remaining poverty when it has countries like Kenya around it, a country that does not even know how to reduce it poverty?

I didn't know 2400 dollars and 1900 dollars were the same per Capita..

Hit me up when you exit the dream world.

rvp2018:
What is there to enjoy with obtuse Ghanians just blurting nonsense on every post that touch Ghana.

.. This is savage.

Nearly every country that has minerals like Ghana has got out poverty except in parts of Africa. Even countries with 1 million people do it even faster. Minerals give you the capital - for free - required to lift people out of poverty - by investing in people, infrastructure and their business.

Ghana GDP by end of this year will be 75b divided by 31M people (recent census). Kenya will be 109B against 50B - so it about 2400 versus 2200.

Just30:
Mineral is not what raise people out of poverty, Market does.

When you do the, the you'll realize why Africa has such level of poverty ...

How will Ghana reduce it remaining poverty when it has countries like Kenya around it, a country that does not even know how to reduce it poverty?

I didn't know 2400 dollars and 1900 dollars are the same per Capita

Just30:
It's October and Accra is this Choked

Imagine December when all house owners return to Accra with their families and move their various cars ...

Seem, some people will have to celebrate their X'Mas early

is this not kenkey?

Oh boy, this was one of my favorite delicacy back in pry school.

Mkenya2019:
Which infrastructure is in Accra? The small sewage network in CBD has been discontinued. The city is plagued with dumsor power cuts. Everywhere is dumpsite right to the beaches - the country is choking in plastic bags - and everywhere is hawker selling everything on earth - most of which are imported goods. Maybe the donated George Walker Bush Highway? Outside few areas - the rest is unplanned hodgepodge of buildings.

Give me Abdijan and Dakar any day. I[b] think Ivory Coast is the most promising country in the entire west africa. [/b]Their civil war set them back 10yrs but they are back on track. Next would be senegal. Ghana is all talk and no show - it failed the kazikazi picture test.

Ghana only look good when compared with Nigeria. But Ivory Coast and Senegal are more progressive and promising.

Even Ghana that u love to project ur stupidity on is promising than ivory coast in W. Africa.

I was in pro-Ghana - until it failed KaziKazi picture test. I used to think it was one progressive nations. I have now had time to dig a lot more on Ghana - and realize it one hopeless country like Nigeria. Africa leading gold producers yet it look shietty.

Look at the electricity sector - they claim to have hit 85 percent - only to realize that their leading electricity distributor only has 3.5-4m customers - in a country of 31m people with possibly 8m household. That is 50 percent. This ONE OF THE MANY LIES THAT MANIFEST IN PICTURES.

I checked their water...only 0.5M meters in the entire country. This is a country with 8M households according to their last census...average household size is 4 people.

Sewage is totally absent.

I knew Senegal and Ivory coast were doing well - but Ivory Coast went down with wars. But I have seen it recover. I have seen many ivory coast products in Europe. I believe unlike Nigeria and Ghana - the lack of minerals - has given them sustainable organic growth.

theenchanter:
Even Ghana that u love to project ur stupidity on is promising than ivory coast in W. Africa.

jl115:
they are all over the place

real hidden like those in UK n USA congrats that's why didn't see them most in Nairobi and Mombasa are overhead

rvp2018:
Nearly every country that has minerals like Ghana has got out poverty except in parts of Africa. Even countries with 1 million people do it even faster. Minerals give you the capital - for free - required to lift people out of poverty - by investing in people, infrastructure and their business.

Ghana GDP by end of this year will be 75b divided by 31M people (recent census). Kenya will be 109B against 50B - so it about 2400 versus 2200.

Please stop trying to suck GDP figures out of your thumb each time and simply take the figures as stated by the IMF or WB!!.........its getting old!!

Boer, look like you had bad hunting day. Did your trusty arrow fail you? Of course those figures are from IMF. I clearly said by end of this year - 2021.

jl115:
Please stop trying to suck GDP figures out of your thumb each time and simply take the figures as stated by the IMF or WB!!.........its getting old!!

rvp2018:
Nearly every country that has minerals like Ghana has got out poverty except in parts of Africa. Even countries with 1 million people do it even faster. Minerals give you the capital - for free - required to lift people out of poverty - by investing in people, infrastructure and their business.

Ghana GDP by end of this year will be 75b divided by 31M people (recent census). Kenya will be 109B against 50B - so it about 2400 versus 2200.

since minerals give you free capital, why hasn't Kenya use that free capital to raise people out of poverty ?
Ghana GDP by the end of this year will be 80 billion dollars.

You can consult the World Bank for your country actual GDP per Capita.... It is at 1800 dollars

Don't get desperate

Gichwawa254:
real hidden like those in UK n USA congrats that's why didn't see them most in Nairobi and Mombasa are overhead

Shot bru nice pics to.....Nairobi streets kind of remind me a bit of Pretoria with all the trees