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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 6:39am On Oct 17, 2021
How comes you never stopped Mauritus with your hunting arrow when they not only overtook South Africa but have become Africa 1st developed country - with GDP per capita more than twice South Africa.

Your GDP per capita is stuck at 5000 usd. Kenya in next 5yrs will probably double it's own to 4,000 - and will join Upper Middle Class - and will be like South Africa for all practical reasons.

jl115:
Kenya will overtake SA in about 100 years.... Not in terms of per capita but yes eventually in terms of sheer size of your economy driven by your population growth..... Just like Nigeria wink

But just like Nigeria, Kenya will forever be behind SA in terms of the things that actually matter, like infrastructure, wealth per capita, gdp per capita, hdi, technology ect ect wink

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 6:59am On Oct 17, 2021
Mkenya2019:
How comes you never stopped Mauritus with your hunting arrow when they not only overtook South Africa but have become Africa 1st developed country - with GDP per capita more than twice South Africa.

Your GDP per capita is stuck at 5000 usd. Kenya in next 5yrs will probably double it's own to 4,000 - and will join Upper Middle Class - and will be like South Africa for all practical reasons.

drunkards dumb in economics always type foolishly

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 7:04am On Oct 17, 2021
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 7:16am On Oct 17, 2021
Mkenya2019:
How comes you never stopped Mauritus with your hunting arrow when they not only overtook South Africa but have become Africa 1st developed country - with GDP per capita more than twice South Africa.

Your GDP per capita is stuck at 5000 usd. Kenya in next 5yrs will probably double it's own to 4,000 - and will join Upper Middle Class - and will be like South Africa for all practical reasons.


South Africa - $415 billion / 60m

GDP per capita is $6916

When you say developed you mean index of life expectancy, education and per capita income? Or you mean what smiley
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:30am On Oct 17, 2021
Nominal gdp lower than 1100usd - Least developed country - DRC Congo
Nominal gpd per capita of 1100usd or about - threshold to below Lower Middle Income - Kenya
Nominal gdp of 4000 to 12000 - Upper middle class - South Africa
Nominal gdp above 12,000 is developed country - the entry point - Mauritus/Seychelles have hit there.

That is according to IMF/WB

South Africa GDP 2020 301.9 /60m = 5000usd.

End of this year - it will projected to be 400/60=roughly 6700usd.

AfriqueDuZuid:


South Africa - $415 billion / 60m

GDP per capita is $6916

When you say developed you mean index of life expectancy, education and per capita income? Or you mean what smiley
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 8:17am On Oct 17, 2021
Mkenya2019:
Which infrastructure is in Accra? The small sewage network in CBD has been discontinued. The city is plagued with dumsor power cuts. Everywhere is dumpsite right to the beaches - the country is choking in plastic bags - and everywhere is hawker selling everything on earth - most of which are imported goods. Maybe the donated George Walker Bush Highway? Outside few areas - the rest is unplanned hodgepodge of buildings.

Give me Abdijan and Dakar any day. I think Ivory Coast is the most promising country in the entire west africa. Their civil war set them back 10yrs but they are back on track. Next would be senegal. Ghana is all talk and no show - it failed the kazikazi picture test.

Ghana only look good when compared with Nigeria. But Ivory Coast and Senegal are more progressive and promising.


Okay grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 8:21am On Oct 17, 2021
rvp2018:
If the kitchen is too hot for you; step out; this thread is comparasion reason; Just run your life the best way you know; why on earth would you imagine you can even advice me? Like really?

Informal sector in Ghana has more positives than negatives so get over it...

Let Kenya practice the so called cooperatives whilst Ghana continues with it's informal sector... After all one country have more poorer people than the other grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 8:25am On Oct 17, 2021
rvp2018:
Despite Ghana being almost arable - and with so many minerals - you have almost as serious poverty as kenya - which is barren semi-arid and arid - and with no minerals.


No No.

On this platform the country with the most poorest citizens is none other than Kenya

But as for minerals, Ghana is not to blame for Kenyans inability to maximize profit on its minerals... Your half baked elites should be blamed not Ghanaians

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 8:28am On Oct 17, 2021


You can't allow us to learn something from Ivory coast? Interesting grin grin grin


Continue.

I can assure you Ivory Coast is doing well.
It was ahead of Ghana in so many areas some years ago but not anymore..

I wanted @Popzaino to help us with the so called development of Ivory Coast but as usual he bolted, just the coward he is.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 8:29am On Oct 17, 2021
rvp2018:
I havent stopped anybody from commenting; I choose when to come here; which posts to reply to; which one to ignore; I am not going to wait for you to tell me what to do or not do. I know enough of ivory coast - because if you're inquisitive - you wont wait for this thread to learn stuff - you got the internet.

I believe I have not told you or anybody else what to do with your time or post here or elsewhere.

Come in when you want, comment on stuff you want, and leave when you want.


Please do your work, don't mind anyone grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 8:31am On Oct 17, 2021
rvp2018:
Again you dont tell me to continue - I can choose not to. You simply f.off. if you have nothing to contribute. I am here as myself - not appendage or a team - I am here to share my knolwedge and to sometimes (rarely) learn.

Eii, what did you eat today? It's your friend @Shma so why the anger? shocked shocked
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 8:31am On Oct 17, 2021


I didn't go hard on you. I don't know why you're hyperventilating. grin

I shock saf
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 8:33am On Oct 17, 2021
rvp2018:
That you still have povery of 19 % with gold for all those centuries in a sacrielege. When it come to gdp per capita - kenya and ghan are now pretty close - the same with HDI.


Face your front, Ghana cannot be blamed for Kenya's inability to make profit from it's natural resources.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 8:35am On Oct 17, 2021
rvp2018:
Nominal gdp lower than 1100usd - Least developed country - DRC Congo
Nominal gpd per capita of 1100usd or about - threshold to below Lower Middle Income - Kenya
Nominal gdp of 4000 to 12000 - Upper middle class - South Africa
Nominal gdp above 12,000 is developed country - the entry point - Mauritus/Seychelles have hit there.

That is according to IMF/WB

South Africa GDP 2020 301.9 /60m = 5000usd.

End of this year - it will projected to be 400/60=roughly 6700usd.

you forgot we in 2021?

Figures are quaterly reported, it's 6910 now by year end it will be over 7000 wink

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 8:40am On Oct 17, 2021
rvp2018:
Nearly every country that has minerals like Ghana has got out poverty except in parts of Africa. Even countries with 1 million people do it even faster. Minerals give you the capital - for free - required to lift people out of poverty - by investing in people, infrastructure and their business.

Ghana GDP by end of this year will be 75b divided by 31M people (recent census). Kenya will be 109B against 50B - so it about 2400 versus 2200.


First of all lift the over 20 million poor Kenyans out of poverty.

Maximize profit on your minerals then come back and tell us all the rubbish you wrote up there

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 8:44am On Oct 17, 2021
rvp2018:
Nominal gdp lower than 1100usd - Least developed country - DRC Congo
Nominal gpd per capita of 1100usd or about - threshold to below Lower Middle Income - Kenya
Nominal gdp of 4000 to 12000 - Upper middle class - South Africa
Nominal gdp above 12,000 is developed country - the entry point - Mauritus/Seychelles have hit there.

That is according to IMF/WB

South Africa GDP 2020 301.9 /60m = 5000usd.

End of this year - it will projected to be 400/60=roughly 6700usd.


When a country is 12 000 it simply means it's higher income class... Just like a country Gabon is not so developed but its gdp per capita was hovering around 11 000 at some point
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:49am On Oct 17, 2021
It's been playing btw 5-7K usd the last 10yrs. It called the middle income trap.
AfriqueDuZuid:

you forgot we in 2021?

Figures are quaterly reported, it's 6910 now by year end it will be over 7000 wink

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:51am On Oct 17, 2021
Yes there are outliers like those oil rich countries that tend to inflate the gdp - but generally it's pretty good measure of progress.
AfriqueDuZuid:


When a country is 12 000 it simply means it's higher income class... Just like a country Gabon is not so developed but its gdp per capita was hovering around 11 000 at some point

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 8:53am On Oct 17, 2021
vaxx:
oh good. In this era , physical classroom presence is not necessary.

Charlei, face to face lectures is the best.

Online lectures is great but not comparable to face to face lectures
grin grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 8:53am On Oct 17, 2021
rvp2018:
Yes there are outliers like those oil rich countries that tend to inflate the gdp - but generally it's pretty good measure of progress.

Development is a whole package not some narrow view of gdp per capita or HDI

It's complex. I'm glad we don't have to argue over this
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:55am On Oct 17, 2021
People are driven to the informal economy out of poverty. Not by choice. It cannot be an economy policy. It's the default - you will find people hawking or eking out a living in the streets out of poverty. That is why your poverty data need to be relooked.
vankelvin:


Informal sector in Ghana has more positives than negatives so get over it...

Let Kenya practice the so called cooperatives whilst Ghana continues with it's informal sector... After all one country have more poorer people than the other grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:58am On Oct 17, 2021
Yes there is no argument. Mauritus is better than South Africa in all such metrics. South Africa to get out of middle income trap need to focus on education first and foremost.
AfriqueDuZuid:


Development is a whole package not some narrow view of gdp per capita or HDI

It's complex. I'm glad we don't have to argue over this
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 9:00am On Oct 17, 2021
rvp2018:
People are driven to the informal economy out of poverty. Not by choice. It cannot be an economy policy. It's the default - you will find people hawking or eking out a living in the streets out of poverty. That is why your poverty data need to be relooked.
I a country like Kenya where everything is monopolies by a few people, that will be true but here, it is not.

Here, people are driving into retailing because of the sheer size of the retail sector and how profitable it is.
My poverty data is comprehensively correct as it reveals the true service nature of my economy hence why even COVID could not deal with my economy like it did yours

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 9:00am On Oct 17, 2021
rvp2018:
It's been playing btw 5-7K usd the last 10yrs. It called the middle income trap.

That's not really the case the commodity prices were up in 2010 however in 2021 is economy has diverse more, by 2030 platinum will be phased out. South Africa economy is a service driven economy much like those of developed countries.

Again that was mainly driven by bad governance + dipped commodity prices.

But we on a ne trajectory now by year end we will be over 7000 in gdp per capita+ more spectrum+data centers+roads+new cities+green energy+things are looking up smiley

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 9:05am On Oct 17, 2021
Gichwawa254:
true buda Abidjan is a lovely city am watching it's videos n looking at it's pictures on skyscrapercity waah it's breathtaking to me it's the most developed west African city guess [b]it's underrated in Anglophone Africa due to language barrier [/b]with francophone Africa most English speaking African countries only talk of, or know Lagos n to some extend Accra like me here never considered Abidjan will save some mulla n visit it next year looks like a nice laid back city esp that drive by the ocean is amazing they just need to remake it into a nice promenade like Luanda Angola

Abidjan is not underated by Anglophone West African's.. The truth is, Abidjan and Dakar in the 90's were the best cities in West Africa.. Infact, some people were calling those cities "the Paris of Africa". But for some years now these cities have not seen much development like it did in the 70's,80's and the 90's..

When you compare Abidjan-Dakar of the 90's-. to 2021, then Accra and Lagos of the 90's to 2021, Accra and Lagos have seen much development than Abidjan and Dakar.

Those two Francophone cities are well organized than Accra and Lagos but the later are very much developed and mordenized than the former.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 9:06am On Oct 17, 2021
Abohboy:


Who says forever? If Nigeria got 8 years of proper leadership like a Thabo Mbeki type of leader or a Deng or a Lee Kuan Yew or even an Awolowo we'd develop so rapidly South Africa would be left in the dust very quickly

I'm talking housing deficit gone
Power problems gone
Water problems gone

Nigeria's problems really aren't that difficult to solve if we could get a decent leader things would change and we're likely going to get one in 2023 with Moghalu as president
have you ever listened to the Roger Whittaker song " I don't believe in if anyone"?........ I think its pretty appropriate for this post wink
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 9:06am On Oct 17, 2021
rvp2018:
Yes there is no argument. Mauritus is better than South Africa in all such metrics. South Africa to get out of middle income trap need to focus on education first and foremost.

Nope if we check all indicators SA is more developed

Anyway SA dealing with HIV, TB now covid with the life expectancy where it is, I say it's not bad 5 years now it will be great.

I terms of education that is also in motion, with electronics, coding, also technical skills in trial phases in primary, we on way up.... After all we most technologically advanced on this continent... So we advancing to greater heights smiley

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by NTSA: 9:07am On Oct 17, 2021
Just30:
good you've realized how stupid your maths was grin grin

Your country will only add 5 billion dollars to it GDP this year, moving it from 98 billion to 103 billion dollars....

Even by 2025, your GDP will not catch up with that of Morocco if they even stop growing.....
South Africas GDP was at 136.4 billion while Nigeria's was at 69.45 in the year 2000 ..8 yrs later Nigeria overtook SA by more than 50 billion .
What was the growth rate of Nigeria in the 8 yr period?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 9:08am On Oct 17, 2021
vaxx:
I have a relative who was home school thru out his basic education
( just because of religion dogma) , he only went to university for his tertiary education. To be honest , he didn't do bad at all. He is currently doing his national service with national health insurance .


Though the father is an academian

This home schooling thing is becoming popular in Ghana

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 9:09am On Oct 17, 2021
Roan77:


Again, your ignorance and arrogance is at play here again.
Let me be blunt with you, South Africa is dead and gone, it's obvious, no amount of your lies, chest beating, and conspiracy theory will change that, you are are done, and finished.
Stop dwelling on the past glory, stop having low self esteem, by forcing to push down SA past glories on us.
I will not go back and forth with you, because you are empty.
cool story bro.... To bad SA also destroys Nigeria in every metric that counts as well wink, QOL, Infrastructure, wealth per capita, gdp per capita, hdi, technological advancement, education, health ect ect ect

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Abohboy: 9:10am On Oct 17, 2021
jl115:
have you ever listened to the Roger Whittaker song " I don't believe in if anyone"?........ I think its pretty appropriate for this post wink

Well it's coming South Africa isn't going to be at the top forever even in standards of living in Africa both Nigeria and Kenya will soon catch up especially seeing how Nigerians are increasingly become open to different political parties

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 9:10am On Oct 17, 2021
Just30:
I don't know why people in Academia like to home school their children longer than normal.

The the kid turn out anti social?


Sure

That's one negative side of home schooling. In life, Socialization is very very important.

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